I've seen people on Windows machines probed and hacked while they were online on IRC, in real time. Any passably competent cracker should be able to take control of a Windows box in short order. And Microsoft is well known for being slack on security matters. Always has been. And VB and the other tripe they've grafted on to their products multiplies the possibility for hacks by an order of magnitude.
Yes, there are Linux hacks, though far fewer than Windows hacks. And I see the buffer overflow vulnerabilities and such that come out weekly for Linux software. Many of those vulnerabilities are theoretical, found by a perusal of source code and never actually taken advantage of. And the Open Source community fixes these _far_ faster than Microsoft will ever fix theirs.
Oddly, some of the foremost security guys (Bruce Schneier, for example) state very explicitly that Open Source software is far better security-wise than any closed source software (read Windows). And they explain the reasons in great detail. And there are several people on this list who deal with both OSes on security matters on a day to day basis, and I'm pretty sure they'll attest that Linux security is much stronger than Windows.
If nothing else, a Linux user can determine and control open ports, running services, and create firewalling rules. Windows users think a port is something a ship pulls into, and a firewall is something in their cars.
Sigh. The Windows exploit is essentially a buffer overrun. Microsoft knew about this and released a patch *before* this worm was even written. So it comes down to two things:
1. It's a common problem caused by people writing OS-level services in languages that are prone to these types of problems. Windows and Linux are in the same boat here. Many such exploits have been found in boths OSes, and more will be found in the future.
2. It doesn't matter how fast a patch is released if people don't download and install the patches. Again, both Windows and Linux are identical in this respect.
If Linux were on 90% of all desktop PCs, you'd see the same kinds of viruses and worms. It's not like there haven't been UNIX worms in the past; to think otherwise is fooling yourself. And if Linux were that popular, it would only be a matter of time until bogus "security updates" started making the rounds, so people log in as root to install them, and BANG.
I just had a look at Patent 5,845,265. The bit covering online auctions says:
At the auction date, perspective participants log onto the consignment node auction mode locally or through the consignment node network and await the first good to be auctioned. It is understood that in the best mode of the invention the participant will have a data terminal with a digital to analog converter such as a "sound blaster" and speaker, the digital to analog capability may be used in the auction mode to bring the aural excitement of an auction, e.g., the call of the heckler, the caller and bidders, home to the auction participant. This is discussed in more detail below.
The consignment node takes the first item to be auctioned and posts the image of the good and the good's text record to the participants. The consignment node then posts the opening bid. It is understood that the bid postings may be in a protocol that invokes the generation of an auctioneer's voice at the participant terminals. The participants may then respond with a higher bid. The consignment node mode scans electronically the participants for bids and accepts the highest bid. If bids are tied the consignment node may take the first highest bid by the participants log on order. A particular bidding participant receives a special acknowledgment from the consignment node that her bid was accepted. The consignment node then posts the higher bid to all the electronic auction participants. The consignment node repeats this process until no higher bid is received for a predetermined amount of time and closes the auctioning of that particular good.
Doesn't sound anything like Ebay to me. If the patent is meant to cover every single conveivable form of "competerized auction house" why don't they just say so? If they were really honest they could say "Joe bloggs has thought of something to do with auctions and computers. He isn't going to do anything with it, but has provided enough techno-babble to convince non-technical people that he could do something with it. Therefore, if anyone else tries to do something remotely similar they must give him money."
IMHO, the bass guitar rattling the snare drum in an intro, the 60hz hum of the PA, all the delicious lil freaks of sound that come out of guitar amps..... to me, that's just as much a part of the music itself. I love the *noise*. My old vinyl was full of it.
I remember starting a job and having my first all-hands meeting with that employer. The boss informed us that a couple VIPs were coming the next day and he wanted all the men to wear ties and all the women to wear dresses. After the boss left I mentioned to the woman sitting next to me that I wasn't going to wear a tie because I didn't wear ties and the company had no dress policy. She looked at me in disbelief and insisted that I was going to wear a tie. When I again stated that I didn't wear ties I saw a vein nearly pop in her forehead. Her blood pressure nearly doubled.
"We'll see about that" she said with an angry look on her face as she ran to the boss' office to tell him of my criminal behavior. I walked over to the office and popped my head in the door.
"The secretary says you won't be wearing a tie tomorrow" he stated with one eyebrow raised.
"Sorry, but I don't wear ties" I replied.
"Okay, I didn't hire you for your looks and thanks for letting me know" he smiled.
The secretary nearly passed out when I didn't get the death penalty for not wearing a tie. Till this day I have never seen conformist behavior quite like that.
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So what does this story have to do with Apple!?
If you guys are gonna run a mac site you need to run Apple stories!
(for the humor impaired, that was tongue in cheek)
I've seen people on Windows machines probed and hacked while they were online on IRC, in real time. Any passably competent cracker should be able to take control of a Windows box in short order. And Microsoft is well known for being slack on security matters. Always has been. And VB and the other tripe they've grafted on to their products multiplies the possibility for hacks by an order of magnitude.
Yes, there are Linux hacks, though far fewer than Windows hacks. And I see the buffer overflow vulnerabilities and such that come out weekly for Linux software. Many of those vulnerabilities are theoretical, found by a perusal of source code and never actually taken advantage of. And the Open Source community fixes these _far_ faster than Microsoft will ever fix theirs.
Oddly, some of the foremost security guys (Bruce Schneier, for example) state very explicitly that Open Source software is far better security-wise than any closed source software (read Windows). And they explain the reasons in great detail. And there are several people on this list who deal with both OSes on security matters on a day to day basis, and I'm pretty sure they'll attest that Linux security is much stronger than Windows.
If nothing else, a Linux user can determine and control open ports, running services, and create firewalling rules. Windows users think a port is something a ship pulls into, and a firewall is something in their cars.
Are you telling me that these people are incapable of describing in a sentence or two what their fix does?
:)
Yes
R E A L L Y! I must be stoned :)
The search for linux on MSN India have the following top results:
Linux and Unix Resources
The other side of linux
Linux for all
And not linuxsucks or whatever but bashing MS is just the default acction aint it?
I cant remember if this has been posted before, thus the new /. slogan: News for the amnesiac. Stuff that mattered.
s/just doesn't give a shit/fucks/ :P
I live on a blue nest of CAT5 you insensitive clod!
Perhaps the U.S. Government should consider funding such a program over here?
5 year old minded robot? We already have Bush.
I use SCOIM and it was only $699!
a recently unemployed power grid manager in Ohio?
Yesterday,
Algorithms programmed in any way
Now it looks as though there's liabilit-ay
And, it's 'cause of the D-M-C-A
Suddenly,
I'm not allowed to speak in C
There's a shadow hanging over me
Oh how D-M-C-A makes silence be
How some bits do flow, you can't know,
We couldn't say
I said something wrong
now I'm among, law D-M-C-A-ay-ay-ay
Yesterday,
"code" was such an easy game to play
Now I need a place to hide away
And, it's 'cause of the D-M-C-A
Sigh. The Windows exploit is essentially a buffer overrun. Microsoft knew about this and released a patch *before* this worm was even written. So it comes down to two things:
1. It's a common problem caused by people writing OS-level services in languages that are prone to these types of problems. Windows and Linux are in the same boat here. Many such exploits have been found in boths OSes, and more will be found in the future.
2. It doesn't matter how fast a patch is released if people don't download and install the patches. Again, both Windows and Linux are identical in this respect.
If Linux were on 90% of all desktop PCs, you'd see the same kinds of viruses and worms. It's not like there haven't been UNIX worms in the past; to think otherwise is fooling yourself. And if Linux were that popular, it would only be a matter of time until bogus "security updates" started making the rounds, so people log in as root to install them, and BANG.
To make this smile even bigger: Compile this and execute it as root (all ports below 1024 are restricted and needs root permission to be listened to)
Now you can actually *see* when the worm tries it's futile attack on your superior OS.
for analysis here
Also some cool screenshots of the beast in action here, and here
I just had a look at Patent 5,845,265. The bit covering online auctions says:
At the auction date, perspective participants log onto the consignment node auction mode locally or through the consignment node network and await the first good to be auctioned. It is understood that in the best mode of the invention the participant will have a data terminal with a digital to analog converter such as a "sound blaster" and speaker, the digital to analog capability may be used in the auction mode to bring the aural excitement of an auction, e.g., the call of the heckler, the caller and bidders, home to the auction participant. This is discussed in more detail below.
The consignment node takes the first item to be auctioned and posts the image of the good and the good's text record to the participants. The consignment node then posts the opening bid. It is understood that the bid postings may be in a protocol that invokes the generation of an auctioneer's voice at the participant terminals. The participants may then respond with a higher bid. The consignment node mode scans electronically the participants for bids and accepts the highest bid. If bids are tied the consignment node may take the first highest bid by the participants log on order. A particular bidding participant receives a special acknowledgment from the consignment node that her bid was accepted. The consignment node then posts the higher bid to all the electronic auction participants. The consignment node repeats this process until no higher bid is received for a predetermined amount of time and closes the auctioning of that particular good.
Doesn't sound anything like Ebay to me. If the patent is meant to cover every single conveivable form of "competerized auction house" why don't they just say so? If they were really honest they could say "Joe bloggs has thought of something to do with auctions and computers. He isn't going to do anything with it, but has provided enough techno-babble to convince non-technical people that he could do something with it. Therefore, if anyone else tries to do something remotely similar they must give him money."
...lay our own trans-alantic cable.
IMHO, the bass guitar rattling the snare drum in an intro, the 60hz hum of the PA, all the delicious lil freaks of sound that come out of guitar amps..... to me, that's just as much a part of the music itself. I love the *noise*. My old vinyl was full of it.
Good to see that my reading is giving some good results! ;P
c.t[j] <<= (m % 2 && i>1) ? sft[i-1] : sft[i]
That said, I don't like these small widgets. Try typingon it.
It hurts.
I remember starting a job and having my first all-hands meeting with that employer. The boss informed us that a couple VIPs were coming the next day and he wanted all the men to wear ties and all the women to wear dresses. After the boss left I mentioned to the woman sitting next to me that I wasn't going to wear a tie because I didn't wear ties and the company had no dress policy. She looked at me in disbelief and insisted that I was going to wear a tie. When I again stated that I didn't wear ties I saw a vein nearly pop in her forehead. Her blood pressure nearly doubled.
"We'll see about that" she said with an angry look on her face as she ran to the boss' office to tell him of my criminal behavior. I walked over to the office and popped my head in the door.
"The secretary says you won't be wearing a tie tomorrow" he stated with one eyebrow raised.
"Sorry, but I don't wear ties" I replied.
"Okay, I didn't hire you for your looks and thanks for letting me know" he smiled.
The secretary nearly passed out when I didn't get the death penalty for not wearing a tie. Till this day I have never seen conformist behavior quite like that.
if ANYONE was ever able to setup a decent reliable Windows network! :)
This stuff has 100 mg of caffeine per 1 oz serving.
:)
Letal dosis is arround 10g for a 70kg body weithg, so 10oz would do the trick
Recommend exercise on /.? R u nutz?
:)
I would recommend some of this. But remember, use it sparingly, dont drink it direclty from the bottle!