What if the modder would've taken a part of naked arm (leg, foot, neck, face, whatever) texture, then stretched it to fit the entire upper body and then released a naked mod. Would the ESRB still had re-rated the game?
The end result would've been entirely the same, and technically the means to achieve would've been exactly the same, as would've the "fact" that Bethesda shipped the game with naked textures in it.
What really happened is that Bethesda modeled the character models as naked 3D human models, then superimposed clothes in them when displaying the characters in the game. The modder then found the "naked" 3D models and "removed" the clothing.
This is not an unreasonable way to implement 3D modeling especially if you're about to do some advanced clothing physics type of stuff which would require the clothes to be modeled separately. I would suspect every modern sports game has the same thing going on for them. My God, *I* am naked under my clothes, too!
This whole thing is a complete hysteric overreaction by the ESRB and people like Thumper Thompson and Leland Yee, who are out to exploit it to their own advantage.
This is the sort of stuff that, if it was happening in renessaince Italy, it would've made Michelangelo's David impossible to craft.
No technical hiccups? That's not what several other reviews claim. There're graphics glitches like "tearing" appearing in when doing a high speed turn and there're some mission glitches that prevent some missions from getting completed depending on how you approach the mission.
The missions are repetitive and ultimately boring. And the voice acting is VERY annoying.
What a perfect summary of an ultra-capitalistic mindset.
Some people's idea of rest and relaxation is vastly different from yours and does not include spending a dime or very little.
Just one example: frying my ass on a public beach on a summer day. If I could do that for 2 months instead of the 2 weeks I do right now, I'd be MUCH happier. It'd probably have other benefits like making my geeky, pale face somewhat more attractive.
Unfortunately, since I only get 2 weeks of vacation I kinda HAVE to do the "big vacation", which leaves me with no time to do "little vacations", incl. completely wasting my time doing nothing on a public beach (or Central Park, as the case may be).
Working long hours does nothing for me other than keep me at work from sunrise to sundown. Since I'm salaried professional and therefore exempt from getting overpay, I get NOTHING out of working 12 hour days. Absolutely nothing other than irrate phonecalls from my wife at 6:30pm. There is absolutely no benefit to *ME*. Yet I'm still expected to "do my part". My employer might benefit from my overwork, but I do not.
"To put it in a way that you could understand easier: Let's say the poster said "IE sucks, barely any/.ers use it". Your argument was pretty much saying "90% of internet users use IE". Completely unrelated."
All studies, including the one I quoted, that I have read state gamers, in terms of their age, are a pretty uniform group. All studies, including the one I quoted, show the same trend: gamers are getting older.
If the original poster would've asked how many people over the age of 30 are buying a Nintendo DS, then it would've been a different issue, but since he said age 20, when all studies say gamers are WAY over 20 in avg. No matter how you look at it, there's going to be quite a few people over 20 buying that thing.
You can pretend like Nintendo DS buyers are demographically a completely different group, but that would be completely out of touch with reality.
"The age of the average gamer doesn't necessarily tell you anything about the average age of a certian subset of gamers."
You assume that platform specific subsets are wildly different from each other and have no or little correlation. All the evidence I've seen points otherwise, including the ESA study I linked to in the first place. It had avg age breakdown between PC and console gamers. PC gamers were slightly older, but only by a year or two, if I remember correctly.
The Japanese DS Lite launch coverage in the press also points to the same conclusion.
Are you completely unable to think logically? I guess some people really need it spelled out for them...
If the average age of a gamer is 30, it's a safe bet the average age of Nintendo DS owners is somewhere around that same number. Maybe a little less given that handhelds do tend to be more popular with young children.
However, since the response was to some jackass, who still thinks gaming is for kids, it's good to debunk that myth with some solid facts.
"Yucca Mountain vs Thousands of tons of junk and CO2 into the atmosphere"
It won't be (just) a Yucca Mountain.
It'll be some equivalent of a woodshed hidden deep inside some developing country, whose leaders are too corrupt or stupid to not care about what happens to people living in the woodshed.
What's even more hypocritical is that any time anyone he disagrees with emails him, he's quoting the federal law that makes it illegal to anonymously send annoying emails. He quotes this law even if the emails are sent using the sender's real name. But then again knowing the law hasn't really been his strong point, ever.
Well, that's all fine and dandy, and exactly what I said, isn't it.
You should, however, be aware that the adults in those countries suffer far less than their children. The mortality rates of young children during famines is much greater than adults'.
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I would be surprised to find any instance of double taxes anywhere. I think the summary is just plain wrong.
You get a tax credit from your home state for taxes paid in the state you work in. Or the other way around.
If it didn't work that way, there would've been a revolt long, long time ago already.
They have more gun. Bigger shovel. You no exist.
Geez.
What if the modder would've taken a part of naked arm (leg, foot, neck, face, whatever) texture, then stretched it to fit the entire upper body and then released a naked mod. Would the ESRB still had re-rated the game?
The end result would've been entirely the same, and technically the means to achieve would've been exactly the same, as would've the "fact" that Bethesda shipped the game with naked textures in it.
Laughable.
"It's unlocking just like hot coffee."
Well, not quite.
What really happened is that Bethesda modeled the character models as naked 3D human models, then superimposed clothes in them when displaying the characters in the game. The modder then found the "naked" 3D models and "removed" the clothing.
This is not an unreasonable way to implement 3D modeling especially if you're about to do some advanced clothing physics type of stuff which would require the clothes to be modeled separately. I would suspect every modern sports game has the same thing going on for them. My God, *I* am naked under my clothes, too!
This whole thing is a complete hysteric overreaction by the ESRB and people like Thumper Thompson and Leland Yee, who are out to exploit it to their own advantage.
This is the sort of stuff that, if it was happening in renessaince Italy, it would've made Michelangelo's David impossible to craft.
No technical hiccups? That's not what several other reviews claim. There're graphics glitches like "tearing" appearing in when doing a high speed turn and there're some mission glitches that prevent some missions from getting completed depending on how you approach the mission.
The missions are repetitive and ultimately boring. And the voice acting is VERY annoying.
The title had so much promise.
You will be sued the minute you launch the service. Lyrics are copyrighted, and fiercely protected by the copyright owners.
From Jack Thompsons legal bullying to censorship of Wikitruth.info related content...it's all there.
Looks like this thing is a good candidate for an addition to the site.
What a perfect summary of an ultra-capitalistic mindset.
Some people's idea of rest and relaxation is vastly different from yours and does not include spending a dime or very little.
Just one example: frying my ass on a public beach on a summer day. If I could do that for 2 months instead of the 2 weeks I do right now, I'd be MUCH happier. It'd probably have other benefits like making my geeky, pale face somewhat more attractive.
Unfortunately, since I only get 2 weeks of vacation I kinda HAVE to do the "big vacation", which leaves me with no time to do "little vacations", incl. completely wasting my time doing nothing on a public beach (or Central Park, as the case may be).
Working long hours does nothing for me other than keep me at work from sunrise to sundown. Since I'm salaried professional and therefore exempt from getting overpay, I get NOTHING out of working 12 hour days. Absolutely nothing other than irrate phonecalls from my wife at 6:30pm. There is absolutely no benefit to *ME*. Yet I'm still expected to "do my part". My employer might benefit from my overwork, but I do not.
Arbeit macht nicht frei.
"We don't want to be like the Europeans"
Speak for yourself.
"To put it in a way that you could understand easier: Let's say the poster said "IE sucks, barely any /.ers use it". Your argument was pretty much saying "90% of internet users use IE". Completely unrelated."
All studies, including the one I quoted, that I have read state gamers, in terms of their age, are a pretty uniform group. All studies, including the one I quoted, show the same trend: gamers are getting older.
If the original poster would've asked how many people over the age of 30 are buying a Nintendo DS, then it would've been a different issue, but since he said age 20, when all studies say gamers are WAY over 20 in avg. No matter how you look at it, there's going to be quite a few people over 20 buying that thing.
You can pretend like Nintendo DS buyers are demographically a completely different group, but that would be completely out of touch with reality.
"The age of the average gamer doesn't necessarily tell you anything about the average age of a certian subset of gamers."
You assume that platform specific subsets are wildly different from each other and have no or little correlation. All the evidence I've seen points otherwise, including the ESA study I linked to in the first place. It had avg age breakdown between PC and console gamers. PC gamers were slightly older, but only by a year or two, if I remember correctly.
The Japanese DS Lite launch coverage in the press also points to the same conclusion.
Are you completely unable to think logically? I guess some people really need it spelled out for them...
If the average age of a gamer is 30, it's a safe bet the average age of Nintendo DS owners is somewhere around that same number. Maybe a little less given that handhelds do tend to be more popular with young children.
However, since the response was to some jackass, who still thinks gaming is for kids, it's good to debunk that myth with some solid facts.
"Seriously, who over the age of twenty is going to buy a DS?"
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Seriously, you're showing your age. Seriously.
Here're some facts from this century:
Average age of a gamer is 30. 19% of gamers are over the age of 50.
More stats from the Entertainment Software Association via The Pixelantes: http://pixelantes.blogspot.com/2005/11/who-are-th
Sure.
I've got a question for you as well. Here goes:
Did you stop beating your wife yet? Yes or no.
"Yucca Mountain vs Thousands of tons of junk and CO2 into the atmosphere"
It won't be (just) a Yucca Mountain.
It'll be some equivalent of a woodshed hidden deep inside some developing country, whose leaders are too corrupt or stupid to not care about what happens to people living in the woodshed.
It's ok, though. It's Not Our Problem (tm).
The headline should say: "An environmentalist coming around to nuclear power".
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Other environmentalists are not quite siding with Mr. Moore, and are in fact quite adamant about it:
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.03/moore.ht
What's even more hypocritical is that any time anyone he disagrees with emails him, he's quoting the federal law that makes it illegal to anonymously send annoying emails. He quotes this law even if the emails are sent using the sender's real name. But then again knowing the law hasn't really been his strong point, ever.
Well, that's all fine and dandy, and exactly what I said, isn't it.
You should, however, be aware that the adults in those countries suffer far less than their children. The mortality rates of young children during famines is much greater than adults'.
But that's ok, I'm rich too. Rock on brother!
[paraphrasing the mentality of much of the industrial world]
I'm rich, I'll survive. Who cares about all those poor people abroad.
Word. Soul Calibur was a great game.
What's life anyway but a big game? Some play to get rich, some play to get happy, some play to get famous, some play just to play.
How is it weird some people prefer to fill their daily gaming with role playing games? It's not escaping, it's just a different type of a game.
If MMO players get what they're searching for from MMO games, sounds like a great deal to me. Probably saves a lot on the shrink bills too.
PLEASE!
"That may be the case, but if it is, why is he only arguing for the restriction of violent video games?"
Well, because MPAA and RIAA have much more powerful lobbyists than the gaming industry.
And some excellent representation in the US Congress and Senate. Gotta love the campaign donations!
Levono is NOT being investigated for spying or bugging the computers sold to the US Government.
The US Government is basically doing a security check on the computers they ordered to make sure there's nothing extra on those computers.
Someone got their panties all in a wad is trying to score some polipoints by being patriotic.
There really is smoke without a fire. This proves it.
Oh yeah, RoadRunner.
The same RoadRunner, who put advertising.com banners on the webmail interface.
advertising.com has, umm, an interesting history, which, apparently, according to Time Warner became squeaky clean the very minute TW bought it.