I think we are in agreement. I hope my previous response didn't sound argumentative. I was just saying that this sounds a lot like the political machinations of the fast food industry described in the book I mentioned. Seriously, if you haven't read it, I recommend it.
And I agree, there are companies that fight fair. But once they go down the wrong path, there seems to be no limit to the weasling they can do.
I think you're right to use "was". I seem to recall a limit of liability for small aircraft manufacturers being passed, which was the reason Cessna got back into making singles.
We were enjoying 50 degree weather here last week, but it has definitely turned bitterly cold. I'm going to make myself a hot cup of tea, may I borrow some sugar?
Just think, every mod point wasted modding this thread down could have been used to mod up either a Katz supporter or a traditional Katz detractor. On that basis alone, I consider this a moral victory.
"Symmetry is a factor, but it's not the only one."
I shouldn't have opened with "Not true", but rather "Not strictly true."
I certainly didn't mean to imply that beauty isn't in the eye of the beholder, just that beauty isn't entirely subjective either. And in the case of the study, I think that symmetry is first and formost in mind when we consider beauty.
And weight could factor in with symmetry as well, at least to an extent.
"But why only probably more beautiful? Beauty is fairly relative, and for the human race to become more beautuful there has to be prolonged cultural stability."
Not true. Take a set of photographs of people ranging from supermodels to severe facial deformities, and show them to people from around the world, regardless of culture, education, location, or the amount of isolation, and ask them to arrange the photgraphs in order from most to least beautiful.
It's the same order every time. Our sense of beauty is directly involved with our ability to measure symmetry. Symmetry implies health, which is attractive.
>>>Even with Microsoft's creative definition of what makes up an "operating system".
LOL. I can just hear MS PR:
"All Microsoft software products are inextricably tied to the operating system...except when they are mentioned in a security announcement."
"Also, the Windows announcements are for the OS itself only, while the Linux announcements cover programs that do not count as OS stuff under Windows."
The funny things is the journalists get all indignant when you point this out to them and ask them to throw in the security holes for IIS, IE, OE, Office, SQL Server, etc.
Not at all. He says changing people isn't the goal. If people think anything he says is important, they will change on their own, not because he wants them to. If they think his words are just drivel, then they won't.
Sure it will...in fact they used this during the World Series IIRC. Viewers watching a game and listening to it on the radio at the same time noticed that the game became out-of-sync by upwards of half a minute or so. Live TV (and radio for that matter) isn't truly live anyway - there's usually a 2 or 3 second delay.
Thinking all this time that DVD's CD's, video tapes, ZIP disks and the like were all forms of media, while overhyped overbudget creative endeavors featuring self-absorbed celebrities in questionable plots using questionable diaglog were movies, and overhyped creative endeavors that never leave beta and crash my computer were software.
Obviously I didn't consider the legal definition.
Everyone who thinks it's time law schools require at least three logic courses, please raise your hands.
Your argument is flawed. Sure if VB & MTS for COM/DCOM is all you know, that will be all you use - but it doesn't mean that there aren't alternatives. Like the proverb that says when all you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail.
Oh, and Microsoft SQL Server is similar to Sybase, so that's not hard to deal with. I tend to deal either with companies that can go with Oracle or DB2, or smaller companies whose needs are met by MySQL or PostgreSQL.
Built about a dozen web-applications for my clients. Wrote documentation for those applications, as well as requirements documents. Did some clean-up on the graphics. Remote-installed a web-app for one client. Paid my bills, checked my account balance. Quite frankly I don't know what applications you use that you think have no counterpart in Linux, but I'll assume that is due more to your ignorance.
Oh yes, I run SuSE Linux 7.3 Having and using SuSE Linux 7.3 at home has provided me with thousands of tools that I have used as a consultant/developer to make myself thousands of dollars.
And remember, if you are going to respond to a flame, make sure that you're argument actually has substance.
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"umm, we already have fusion reactors, how do you think we get nuclear power?"
I think we get nuclear power from Nuclear FISSION.
A little more than 39 inches.
I think we are in agreement. I hope my previous response didn't sound argumentative. I was just saying that this sounds a lot like the political machinations of the fast food industry described in the book I mentioned. Seriously, if you haven't read it, I recommend it.
And I agree, there are companies that fight fair. But once they go down the wrong path, there seems to be no limit to the weasling they can do.
Sounds like you've been reading Fast Food Nation. If you haven't, you should.
That's what happens when large corporations lobby for laws that prevent accountability.
Please come up with a better argument. Only an idiot would install every package.
I think we all kind of knew this, but it's nice to see someone is looking at the numbers, especially with the campaign contributions.
I think you're right to use "was". I seem to recall a limit of liability for small aircraft manufacturers being passed, which was the reason Cessna got back into making singles.
We were enjoying 50 degree weather here last week, but it has definitely turned bitterly cold. I'm going to make myself a hot cup of tea, may I borrow some sugar?
Just think, every mod point wasted modding this thread down could have been used to mod up either a Katz supporter or a traditional Katz detractor. On that basis alone, I consider this a moral victory.
"Symmetry is a factor, but it's not the only one."
I shouldn't have opened with "Not true", but rather "Not strictly true."
I certainly didn't mean to imply that beauty isn't in the eye of the beholder, just that beauty isn't entirely subjective either. And in the case of the study, I think that symmetry is first and formost in mind when we consider beauty.
And weight could factor in with symmetry as well, at least to an extent.
Good job taking that joke too literally.
"But why only probably more beautiful? Beauty is fairly relative, and for the human race to become more beautuful there has to be prolonged cultural stability."
Not true. Take a set of photographs of people ranging from supermodels to severe facial deformities, and show them to people from around the world, regardless of culture, education, location, or the amount of isolation, and ask them to arrange the photgraphs in order from most to least beautiful.
It's the same order every time. Our sense of beauty is directly involved with our ability to measure symmetry. Symmetry implies health, which is attractive.
Sounds like your linux experience took place quite awhile ago.
His mathematics is pretty bad.
Your english are pretty bad.
If that's the best you can come up with, your logic is pretty bad.
>>>Even with Microsoft's creative definition of what makes up an "operating system".
LOL. I can just hear MS PR:
"All Microsoft software products are inextricably tied to the operating system...except when they are mentioned in a security announcement."
"Also, the Windows announcements are for the OS itself only, while the Linux announcements cover programs that do not count as OS stuff under Windows."
The funny things is the journalists get all indignant when you point this out to them and ask them to throw in the security holes for IIS, IE, OE, Office, SQL Server, etc.
"id be interested to see the amount of revenue lost due to linux exploitation versus win2K (taking market share into account of course)."
I know many who would be interested to see that. Obviously they didn't look at the cost of damage control and fixing the various security holes.
Gee, I wonder which OS had less damage on the bottom line?
"They also had a tendency to copy some ideas of usability from Microsoft."
Is that why KDE is more usable than Gnome?
Not at all. He says changing people isn't the goal. If people think anything he says is important, they will change on their own, not because he wants them to. If they think his words are just drivel, then they won't.
Sure it will...in fact they used this during the World Series IIRC. Viewers watching a game and listening to it on the radio at the same time noticed that the game became out-of-sync by upwards of half a minute or so. Live TV (and radio for that matter) isn't truly live anyway - there's usually a 2 or 3 second delay.
Oh, please. No matter how bad Verizon could be, Ameritech is far worse. Only Ameritech could be sued by almost every state they do business in!
Besides, Verizon Wireless is the one part of that company that doesn't suck. Unlike Sprint...
Thinking all this time that DVD's CD's, video tapes, ZIP disks and the like were all forms of media, while overhyped overbudget creative endeavors featuring self-absorbed celebrities in questionable plots using questionable diaglog were movies, and overhyped creative endeavors that never leave beta and crash my computer were software.
Obviously I didn't consider the legal definition.
Everyone who thinks it's time law schools require at least three logic courses, please raise your hands.
I'll use MPlayer when MPlayer's developers can demonstrate an ounce of maturity in both word and code.
I've never wanted to see any software code forked more than this one, just out of sheer spite.
that the hardcore RPG'ers are either so stupid or addicted that they'll crank out the cash to feed their habit.
Your argument is flawed. Sure if VB & MTS for COM/DCOM is all you know, that will be all you use - but it doesn't mean that there aren't alternatives. Like the proverb that says when all you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail.
Oh, and Microsoft SQL Server is similar to Sybase, so that's not hard to deal with. I tend to deal either with companies that can go with Oracle or DB2, or smaller companies whose needs are met by MySQL or PostgreSQL.
Built about a dozen web-applications for my clients. Wrote documentation for those applications, as well as requirements documents. Did some clean-up on the graphics. Remote-installed a web-app for one client. Paid my bills, checked my account balance. Quite frankly I don't know what applications you use that you think have no counterpart in Linux, but I'll assume that is due more to your ignorance.
Oh yes, I run SuSE Linux 7.3 Having and using SuSE Linux 7.3 at home has provided me with thousands of tools that I have used as a consultant/developer to make myself thousands of dollars.
And remember, if you are going to respond to a flame, make sure that you're argument actually has substance.