So now, instead of actually having it delivered, you STILL have to go out onto the streets, risk discarded drug needles and the statistical 2 piles of human excrement per block.
Oh yes. Wanting to earn a living is "greedy". Because all YouTube is, is a HOBBY!
Sorry, content creation on the YouTube platform for these people is a JOB. Why do you think the stink over Patreon is so serious right now? They're fucking with people's livelihoods. So when YouTube jacks around, puts videos in limited state, demonetizes videos, etc. Those videos don't get produced for free buddy! They always cost SOMEONE.
Could these content creators have done better due diligence with regard to this gambling outlet? Indubitably! But simply ascribing it to "greed" shows a deep lack of understanding.
I dunno if I'd go that far. Are they at least partly at fault for this? Sure. But their part is basically incidental. The content creators should have done better due diligence on the gambling site.
Mostly it's about self protection for companies that have no intention of abiding by the GPL or any of the other OSL variants. Look at Microsoft...and VMWare. Both are violators. Both sit on the board of the Linux foundation. Notice no punitive actions for their violations have been forthcoming for several years...
The other part of this is the fact that it's concentrating a MASSIVE amount of economic and social power in the hands of the payment processors.
Look at the issues with Patreon right now.
Do you REALLY want someone like Visa or Mastercard being able to tell your bank to drop you as a customer? To simply refuse purchases by you because someone there doesn't agree with them?
Unless you're tying them to an actual means of production (solar, micro-wind, micro-hydro, etc), you're not really doing anything to decrease emissions. You're basically playing "hot potato" with grid resources.
Language is SUPPOSED to be "dangerous". It's the way we convey ideas. And ideas are ALWAYS dangerous to those in power. The only people who hate this situation are totalitarians and people pushing "surrender to the greater good" ideology like Communism. Never mind that these things are good for nothing more than depopulating countries in the most brutal and inhumane ways possible.
Is capitalism PERFECT? No. And nobody sane is seriously pushing for a complete embrace of ancap capitalism.
But this constant push towards Communism is absolutely retarded. It shows exactly how brainwashed these people are about the nature of the subject.
And I don't think you quite understand what's involved in actually trying to climb a 30 foot tall structure that's designed to be an impediment to passage.
You wanna disagree? Fine.
Likely it's neither as easy as you're saying, nor quite so hard as I'm saying.
Either way, the effect on immigration will be non-zero.
Yep. I'm sure that you're going to have a mom & her little kids shimmying 30 feet up a rope.
Again, this is not about deterring every last illegal economic migrant on the planet.
It's about upping the barrier of entry from "I'll just walk on over..." to "Shit! I have to climb that?"
And no you do NOT need "guards everywhere".
The wall prevents you from needing guards putting ye olde Mark 1 Eyeball on every last inch of the border. So you have patrol zones, which border patrols pass multiple times a day.
And yes, you still need the wall. You need a physical deterrent.
Because a group of 10 or so border guards could, conceivably, be overwhelmed.
I don't know why the hell this is so hard for some people to grok.
"Problematic" is a way to brush off counter-arguments by attempting to label any such things "problems". It's a discussion-avoidance tactic. Because the people who use it don't want to discuss the problem and come to a mutually odious solution. They just want Their Way with no disagreement whatsoever, so they can feel "smart" or "right" or "just".
Fencing isn't going to cut it. The kind of fencing they're talking about can be demolished in short order with a pair of small bolt croppers. Or you could climb it so long as you had something to give to the razor wire roll at the top.
The accepted wall design is a 31 foot high structure, anchored in concrete foundations, built of vertical runs of 1/2"-3/4" steel angle, cross-braced with MORE steel angle so you can't deflect individual bars aside. And topped by sheer anti-climb plates.
And remember, these economic migrants come through this way for two reasons.
1: Ease 2: CHEAP
Now tell them they have to hump a $300-500 30+ foot LADDER, weighing 80-120 lbs, in with them. And you know what trying to use narco tunnels would get them? DEAD!
And you're right about the spine-free GOP.
Both parties are no longer fit for purpose and need to be demolished.
Sure, because every Mexican and Central American has $300-500 for a 31 foot ladder and is going to hike it in with them.
Nobody, save the people like you, tring to strawman your ass off, EVER claimed that a wall would "solve illegal immigration". It's about presenting a clear deterrent to overland immigration. Which then allows us to make the most of our manpower and monetary resources combatting other forms of illegal economic migration.
But we can't really do that when we don't ACTUALLY control our own border.
But please, go back to pretending you actually understand the situation.
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I'm sorry that people can't ride their bikes, hike and camp right now.
Maybe, with some of the money we recoup by tackling illegal immigration, we can rectify some of that.
But border security has been one of these everpresent "talking points" for DECADES now.
They pull it out and hammer on it during elections.
But the second elections are over, they pack it away, to use during the next election.
And this is both sides of the aisle.
And people are sick of it.
The issue needs to be put to bed.
NOW.
If there is collateral damage? SO BE IT.
So now, instead of actually having it delivered, you STILL have to go out onto the streets, risk discarded drug needles and the statistical 2 piles of human excrement per block.
JOY!
Thank you for proving that the only greed here is yours.
Oh, and jealousy.
Oh yes. Wanting to earn a living is "greedy". Because all YouTube is, is a HOBBY!
Sorry, content creation on the YouTube platform for these people is a JOB.
Why do you think the stink over Patreon is so serious right now? They're fucking with people's livelihoods.
So when YouTube jacks around, puts videos in limited state, demonetizes videos, etc.
Those videos don't get produced for free buddy! They always cost SOMEONE.
Could these content creators have done better due diligence with regard to this gambling outlet?
Indubitably!
But simply ascribing it to "greed" shows a deep lack of understanding.
I dunno if I'd go that far.
Are they at least partly at fault for this?
Sure. But their part is basically incidental.
The content creators should have done better due diligence on the gambling site.
You get these guys, they build big on a platform.
Then you start fucking with their money...
So they turn to alternative methods of securing funding.
Occasionally, you get some of them falling for shit like this.
Go pick shit off your foot and eat it.
Sorry? Did you have a point? Mr. "Anonymous Coward"?
Mostly it's about self protection for companies that have no intention of abiding by the GPL or any of the other OSL variants.
Look at Microsoft...and VMWare. Both are violators. Both sit on the board of the Linux foundation. Notice no punitive actions for their violations have been forthcoming for several years...
Only too 3.5 years and fucking with hardware and software to artificially obsolete Win7!
Sure. Just give over all the farming in the country to big agri-corps.
Right?
The other part of this is the fact that it's concentrating a MASSIVE amount of economic and social power in the hands of the payment processors.
Look at the issues with Patreon right now.
Do you REALLY want someone like Visa or Mastercard being able to tell your bank to drop you as a customer?
To simply refuse purchases by you because someone there doesn't agree with them?
Fuck that noise.
Now how do you explain to a farmer with massive loans that he needs to idle his croplands for a season or two to help the soil recover?
I agree that crop rotation and fallowing is an answer to this. How do you get the farming industry to adopt the practice for their own good though?
Especially factory farms?
Unless you're tying them to an actual means of production (solar, micro-wind, micro-hydro, etc), you're not really doing anything to decrease emissions.
You're basically playing "hot potato" with grid resources.
When you basically export your company's entire business overseas.
Especially to a hostile nation...
Get out with a degree in engineering? CompSci? Law? Accounting? Something actually useful?
You can get (or create) a job.
Intersectional Dance Theory?
Lesbian Basket Weaving?
Art Appreciation?
Anything with the word "Studies" (code for "For Dummies") in it?
Yeah. You're going to have trouble getting a job (and holding it), even in Starschmucks or McWendysBurgerCastle.
Language is SUPPOSED to be "dangerous".
It's the way we convey ideas. And ideas are ALWAYS dangerous to those in power.
The only people who hate this situation are totalitarians and people pushing "surrender to the greater good" ideology like Communism.
Never mind that these things are good for nothing more than depopulating countries in the most brutal and inhumane ways possible.
Is capitalism PERFECT? No.
And nobody sane is seriously pushing for a complete embrace of ancap capitalism.
But this constant push towards Communism is absolutely retarded. It shows exactly how brainwashed these people are about the nature of the subject.
And I don't think you quite understand what's involved in actually trying to climb a 30 foot tall structure that's designed to be an impediment to passage.
You wanna disagree? Fine.
Likely it's neither as easy as you're saying, nor quite so hard as I'm saying.
Either way, the effect on immigration will be non-zero.
Yep. I'm sure that you're going to have a mom & her little kids shimmying 30 feet up a rope.
Again, this is not about deterring every last illegal economic migrant on the planet.
It's about upping the barrier of entry from "I'll just walk on over..." to "Shit! I have to climb that?"
And no you do NOT need "guards everywhere".
The wall prevents you from needing guards putting ye olde Mark 1 Eyeball on every last inch of the border.
So you have patrol zones, which border patrols pass multiple times a day.
And yes, you still need the wall. You need a physical deterrent.
Because a group of 10 or so border guards could, conceivably, be overwhelmed.
I don't know why the hell this is so hard for some people to grok.
Your assumption that one anonymous poster speaks for over 3.5 billion people.
Hence my comment about "brave"
Especially as you've no evidence they're even leftwing.
Are you serious?
You'd see the anti-trust investigations hit in stretches of time measurable in micro-fractions of a picosecond.
"Problematic" is a way to brush off counter-arguments by attempting to label any such things "problems".
It's a discussion-avoidance tactic.
Because the people who use it don't want to discuss the problem and come to a mutually odious solution.
They just want Their Way with no disagreement whatsoever, so they can feel "smart" or "right" or "just".
Wieder ein Haufen alter Leute, ohne eine Ahnung davon zu haben, WIE etwas funktioniert und versuchen zu bestimmen, wie es funktionieren soll.
Fencing isn't going to cut it.
The kind of fencing they're talking about can be demolished in short order with a pair of small bolt croppers.
Or you could climb it so long as you had something to give to the razor wire roll at the top.
The accepted wall design is a 31 foot high structure, anchored in concrete foundations, built of vertical runs of 1/2"-3/4" steel angle, cross-braced with MORE steel angle so you can't deflect individual bars aside. And topped by sheer anti-climb plates.
And remember, these economic migrants come through this way for two reasons.
1: Ease
2: CHEAP
Now tell them they have to hump a $300-500 30+ foot LADDER, weighing 80-120 lbs, in with them.
And you know what trying to use narco tunnels would get them? DEAD!
And you're right about the spine-free GOP.
Both parties are no longer fit for purpose and need to be demolished.
Sure, because every Mexican and Central American has $300-500 for a 31 foot ladder and is going to hike it in with them.
Nobody, save the people like you, tring to strawman your ass off, EVER claimed that a wall would "solve illegal immigration".
It's about presenting a clear deterrent to overland immigration. Which then allows us to make the most of our manpower and monetary resources combatting other forms of illegal economic migration.
But we can't really do that when we don't ACTUALLY control our own border.
But please, go back to pretending you actually understand the situation.
Ah, the brave and understanding Left!