"The guy funding the Linux XBOX project is a direct competitor of MS"
What I'd like to know is why he's putting up 200k as a reward instead of just funding some people on his own. He could hire 4 engineers for a year to do that. Heh maybe he's sick of litigation.
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"Yeesh. No wonder Linux guys like free software, they can't even afford to buy a vowel!"
Hah! I bet that's why the command's called 'fsck'.
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"Worms are just old, automated, exploits."
I think he meant when Nimda was first introduced, therefore it's not an 'old exploit'.
Don't you think you're trying a little too hard to discredit this guy? I mean, you're insulting him for his first and last experience with a problem. Sounds like he locked the problem down to me.
"Oregon just can't stay out of the news. HELLO? We got this big crazy state just south of us! Go report on them!!"
You left out our criminal basketball players! (TrailBlazers...)
Heh yeah that was off-topic, but it's funny if you're from Oregon.
We have some really amusing political situations here. That's really all this is. I wouldn't worry too much about people's rights being heavily affected by it.
"What do you mean? How do you define "Windows 2000" -- do you mean "my [unspecified] email software that runs on Windows 2000"..."
He means a stand-alone anti-spam program that runs in Win2k. I have no idea why you think he'd mean the other stuff seeing as how he mentioned Mozilla heh.
"OK. Give me all your art for free. You must also provide step-by-step instructions on how you created the art."
Go to CGTalk.com. People do that today. They create artwork, then they share their technique with other people so they can learn. It would harm the community if everybody was to say "I'll tell you how I did it, but first go to paypal.com..." It would probably stall to the point that the community dies out.
Free Software is in a similar position. You all want the government to replace proprietary software with the Open Source stuff, but if lack of documentation gets in the way then you're leaving a door open for somebody like Microsoft to come in and do it right.
I don't think this is a matter of obligations like that other guy does, but there is a matter of maintaining intergity. If Open Source is an unprofitable model, then that will forever be a sticky note in the goal of replacing proprietary software.
If that's not your goal, then that's fine. But if you're going to release undocumented software, don't expect a flood of people to come in and start using it. Do expect somebody else to come along and do it better.
"You could have found out if the game was protected before you bought it, and then decided if it was a wise investment at the time. "
So you expect somebody to know ahead of time if they're going to break their disc? Your hair isn't pointy, is it?
I can't speak for the dude that started this thread, but I've got a huge collection of CD's/DVD's and never damaged them. I can totally understand his situation where he accidentally broke one of them. Shit happens. Replacement media is cheap, and the game producer forcefully prevented him from making a backup. If they're going to take away your fair use right to make legitimate backups, then the least they can do is guarantee that you can cheaply replace your media if it goes bad. Charging half the cost of the game + S&H is ridiculous.
As for your comments about the game promoting theft, pull your head out of your ass. The goal of the game is to vent and have a little fun, it's not to train people to steal cars. Don't believe me? Play the game then try to steal a car. You'll be surprised to find out that you don't know how to start it. You're making more of the game than it really is. Next you're going to tell me that Mario Sunshine promotes cleaning up of graffiti.
"I wonder if the RIAA realizes that they're pushing me towards MP3's when they pull shit like this."
I think Slashdot should start an event called "Music Return Day". Here's how it works: Get as many people to buy a known copy-restricted CD as possible. Then, locate a national store that'll accept returns on 'defective CDs' (Best Buy or Walmart maybe?) then, on a particular date, have everybody return that CD.
"Or is this just a problem with the new player (separate from it not being DRM capable)? ".. I'd recommend getting a broadband connection and an iPod. That'll solve all your problems with defective media(intentionally or otherwise).
"Not very technical, but at least its good to see governments actually doing something about it."
Define good. I don't think it's good that their way of dealing with it is to avoid it. If it's broken, they should be investing in getting it fixed. Seriously, the Government's adoption of technologies like this really helps drive small businesses to innovate.
"Do you think it's really a good idea to release such a violent game for free? Totally unregulated? At least if you're selling a game, you can check IDs and make sure the buyer is over 18..."
Perhaps you should focus on being a better parent than trying to turn your PC or TV into a babysitter.
"Instead, Gandalf sent two of his weakest soldiers on foot. I can only assume he was suicidal or an agent of darkness... does Tolkien cover this in a sequel?"
What happened was he reached his population limit and needed more villagers.
"Has it revolutionized the world? I've never used a cell phone in my life and have no intention of ever buying one. There are pay-phones on almost every corner everywhere in the world."
"So what you're really saying then is that you're the only person on the whole planet?"
That's probably why cell phones aren't interesting to him. He has nobody to call!
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, PC: $29.99, PS2/XBOX/GC: $49.99.
The Two Towers, PC $29.99, PS2/XBOX/GC: $49.99
Though, I'm quite sure you're right about PC games getting more expensive. On the other hand, PC games don't have to pay license fees to Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo. "
That's not licensing, that's supply and demand. Look at what the Two Towers has to compete with on the PC vs. the Console.
"Perhaps everyone's just switching to Linux and playing games on their console? "
I don't think that's a significant bite out of the PC gaming market. Frankly, it's trivial to dual boot Linux and Windows.
You'd think the PC market would be better. You can go download demos and try out the games. You have some of that capability with consoles, but the experience is far superior on PCs.
The real reason is that the PC market is so saturated that few companies are willing to take risks and make *gasp* interesting games.
Think about it, you have three choices on PC: - Shoot people - Move tanks around and blow shit up - Walk around and develop magic abilities.
You have more choices on console - Save the princess - Drive karts around
Console games are just much more interesting. The only thing really making the PC game market interesting today is the mod community.
"Yup. Should be on your nearest P2P network by the end of the week. Due to the marvel of 0-day war3z, we'll know what the verdict is before Johansen does. "
I've got an excerpt from the court reporter:
"When did this happen?"
"You're looking at now, sir. Everything that happens now is happening now. "What hapepned to then?" "We passed then." "When?" "Just now. We're at now now." "Go back to then!" "When?" "Now!" "Now?" "Now!" "I can't!" "Why?" "We missed it." "When?" "Just now." "When will then be now?" "Soon."
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"The guy funding the Linux XBOX project is a direct competitor of MS"
What I'd like to know is why he's putting up 200k as a reward instead of just funding some people on his own. He could hire 4 engineers for a year to do that. Heh maybe he's sick of litigation.
"Yeesh. No wonder Linux guys like free software, they can't even afford to buy a vowel!"
Hah! I bet that's why the command's called 'fsck'.
"Worms are just old, automated, exploits."
I think he meant when Nimda was first introduced, therefore it's not an 'old exploit'.
Don't you think you're trying a little too hard to discredit this guy? I mean, you're insulting him for his first and last experience with a problem. Sounds like he locked the problem down to me.
How much more beating can this dead horse take? I feel like I'm watching Gilligan's Island.
"Oregon just can't stay out of the news. HELLO? We got this big crazy state just south of us! Go report on them!!"
You left out our criminal basketball players! (TrailBlazers...)
Heh yeah that was off-topic, but it's funny if you're from Oregon.
We have some really amusing political situations here. That's really all this is. I wouldn't worry too much about people's rights being heavily affected by it.
heh heh.. joystick.. heh heh.. root... heh heh. That was cool.
(That joke'll probably be more popular with Aussies than Americans.)
"I can think of several uses to this kind of technology. Cookbooks for one always get things spilled on them."
Yeah, I can't wait for Maxim to use this technology either.
"Umm, no. "Skroob" is "Boorks" backward, not "Brooks"."
So it's an anagram. B.F.D. his point's still valid. He's not wrong.
Sometimes I think you wait for people to make a technical error so you can pounce on them, instead of listening to what they were saying.
"What do you mean? How do you define "Windows 2000" -- do you mean "my [unspecified] email software that runs on Windows 2000"..."
He means a stand-alone anti-spam program that runs in Win2k. I have no idea why you think he'd mean the other stuff seeing as how he mentioned Mozilla heh.
"OK. Give me all your art for free. You must also provide step-by-step instructions on how you created the art."
Go to CGTalk.com. People do that today. They create artwork, then they share their technique with other people so they can learn. It would harm the community if everybody was to say "I'll tell you how I did it, but first go to paypal.com..." It would probably stall to the point that the community dies out.
Free Software is in a similar position. You all want the government to replace proprietary software with the Open Source stuff, but if lack of documentation gets in the way then you're leaving a door open for somebody like Microsoft to come in and do it right.
I don't think this is a matter of obligations like that other guy does, but there is a matter of maintaining intergity. If Open Source is an unprofitable model, then that will forever be a sticky note in the goal of replacing proprietary software.
If that's not your goal, then that's fine. But if you're going to release undocumented software, don't expect a flood of people to come in and start using it. Do expect somebody else to come along and do it better.
"System Shutdown Completed: Thank you, come again!"
"You could have found out if the game was protected before you bought it, and then decided if it was a wise investment at the time. "
So you expect somebody to know ahead of time if they're going to break their disc? Your hair isn't pointy, is it?
I can't speak for the dude that started this thread, but I've got a huge collection of CD's/DVD's and never damaged them. I can totally understand his situation where he accidentally broke one of them. Shit happens. Replacement media is cheap, and the game producer forcefully prevented him from making a backup. If they're going to take away your fair use right to make legitimate backups, then the least they can do is guarantee that you can cheaply replace your media if it goes bad. Charging half the cost of the game + S&H is ridiculous.
As for your comments about the game promoting theft, pull your head out of your ass. The goal of the game is to vent and have a little fun, it's not to train people to steal cars. Don't believe me? Play the game then try to steal a car. You'll be surprised to find out that you don't know how to start it. You're making more of the game than it really is. Next you're going to tell me that Mario Sunshine promotes cleaning up of graffiti.
".. I'd recommend getting a broadband connection and an iPod. That'll solve all your problems with defective media(intentionally or otherwise). "
Heh I don't think the moderators understood that I was being sarcastic.
"I wonder if the RIAA realizes that they're pushing me towards MP3's when they pull shit like this."
I think Slashdot should start an event called "Music Return Day". Here's how it works: Get as many people to buy a known copy-restricted CD as possible. Then, locate a national store that'll accept returns on 'defective CDs' (Best Buy or Walmart maybe?) then, on a particular date, have everybody return that CD.
Heh imagine slashdotting Equifax.
"Or is this just a problem with the new player (separate from it not being DRM capable)? " .. I'd recommend getting a broadband connection and an iPod. That'll solve all your problems with defective media(intentionally or otherwise).
"Not very technical, but at least its good to see governments actually doing something about it."
Define good. I don't think it's good that their way of dealing with it is to avoid it. If it's broken, they should be investing in getting it fixed. Seriously, the Government's adoption of technologies like this really helps drive small businesses to innovate.
"Do you think it's really a good idea to release such a violent game for free? Totally unregulated? At least if you're selling a game, you can check IDs and make sure the buyer is over 18..."
Perhaps you should focus on being a better parent than trying to turn your PC or TV into a babysitter.
"Instead, Gandalf sent two of his weakest soldiers on foot. I can only assume he was suicidal or an agent of darkness... does Tolkien cover this in a sequel?"
What happened was he reached his population limit and needed more villagers.
"Has it revolutionized the world? I've never used a cell phone in my life and have no intention of ever buying one. There are pay-phones on almost every corner everywhere in the world."
"So what you're really saying then is that you're the only person on the whole planet?"
That's probably why cell phones aren't interesting to him. He has nobody to call!
"For a do not SPAM list. What a concept, out-in should be the defacto thing, never opt-out, it presupposed willingness to be harrassed. "
I'd love that. I'd report my address as *@*.*
"FIFA 2003, PC: $39.99, PS2/XBOX/GC: $49.99.
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, PC: $29.99, PS2/XBOX/GC: $49.99.
The Two Towers, PC $29.99, PS2/XBOX/GC: $49.99
Though, I'm quite sure you're right about PC games getting more expensive. On the other hand, PC games don't have to pay license fees to Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo. "
That's not licensing, that's supply and demand. Look at what the Two Towers has to compete with on the PC vs. the Console.
"Perhaps everyone's just switching to Linux and playing games on their console? "
I don't think that's a significant bite out of the PC gaming market. Frankly, it's trivial to dual boot Linux and Windows.
You'd think the PC market would be better. You can go download demos and try out the games. You have some of that capability with consoles, but the experience is far superior on PCs.
The real reason is that the PC market is so saturated that few companies are willing to take risks and make *gasp* interesting games.
Think about it, you have three choices on PC:
- Shoot people
- Move tanks around and blow shit up
- Walk around and develop magic abilities.
You have more choices on console
- Save the princess
- Drive karts around
Console games are just much more interesting. The only thing really making the PC game market interesting today is the mod community.
Yerp, it's cannibalized from Spaceballs. I read that comment, remembered the 'insta-cassettes' comment, and mutated it towards 'insta-judgements'.
Sadly, I didn't put as much effort into it as I would like to have. Most of what you see there is a copy/paste from a Geocities site. heh.
I've got an excerpt from the court reporter:
Babel Fish Translation, In English:
Blah blah blah M$. Blah blah blah evil. Blah blah blah? Monopoly! Blah blah blah only to screw you later blah blah blah. Don't trust blah blah blah blah. Microsoft blah blah crap and blah blah blah.
Hah! Well, he's got a point. Few comments so far have been much more intriguing than that.