Actually this is moe like concentration (what the western buisness men wants, all drool at night over monopoly or being the obligatory passage for any sort of application) vs country which want the pwoer be mroe democratic and think that too much power in the same individual (USA anyone) is imperialistic and none too good for the world at large. And seeing on how on the diplomatic field USA is handling the democratic process (Guatamalo bay, Irak, Afghanistan etc...), then one cannot do anything but understand why many country watch anything americano centrist as the ICANN or any instance under the ehavy hands of American very very carefully. The objection would be probably far far less if ICANN was , let us say german or Italian.
Because in this case there is a causality , not the one you are choosing (darkness provok sun going down) but the other way sun going down provok darkness. In the example of what they give in the FAQ there may not even be a correlation or causality. And to have a prediction better than what the statistical random prediction would be then you have to have a causal relationship between the two. It might be complex it might be indirect transitive (a->b->->...->n) but it has to be tehre. Else you observe two variable which are not related.
I can remmember that the best example of statistic is where you take the strength of the tide and the number of cupware stuff bought over the last 10 years and find a high correlation or even a high predictability. But since the two are unrelated by causality, but even with an ultra precise measurement of the next tidal wave you cannot predict (for obvious reason) the next cupware sale better than a blind random draw.
And this is IMO the big point ehre. They might have found correlation , but I do not think they found causality. Proof is that when they try to predict the "hit" of the year 70-80 they consistently fail to predict anything.
if their algorithm was really foudned on what human like to ear then it would consistently find the same result whatever the epoche as they themselves point out in their own FAQ !!! I won't bother search back (page do not answer) but they said right at the starts that what human like is a constant that can be mathematically calculated.
Quote : " What do big hits typically score?
As stated above we tend to use 7.00 and higher as a score for a hit song because that's where they tend to score. There have been hits that score a little lower but the promotion has tended to be more aggressive. Some big hits score very low on the HSS scale but more than make up for that low score in other aspects of analyses that a label can do on your music with us if you happen to be negotiating a deal. ".
It sound like "we found some correlation, but there is data outside the correlation, and sometimes downright anti-correlation between reality and prediction". I think without looking at the data and the real corelation coeficient between "predicting it will be a hit" and "it was a hit" it is difficult to say anything. And even then, correlation between data does not mean there is causal relation, although *pleasing* to the ear is certainly why we hear at music. I think this kleave other factor out. For example the signification of the lyrics. You ear Mozart uniquely for the pure sound pleasantness, but you do not ear some of the rock/pop for its sound only (try it, many of the greatest hit sound "bland" without their lyric).
Plus even if they try to "reassure" customer in their FAQ, if you comapre things to the past and try to reproduce what has the best functionned in the past, then you will never innovate. Which is IMO the biggest problem now (and it feels that new bands/singer are solely choosen on their look, given prefabricated lyric and tune, and marketed as prima dona, instead of having bands/singer raise on their own by the sheer beauty of their music).
We got a "sorry" speech from the mayor personally. Rumor at time was that nearly 50% of the measured radioactivity nearby was not from chernobyl but from the release. I can't say if this was true or not but we ertainly a got a lot of "bow down" and "please pardon" speech...
Because if they did that they would create market doubt and user doubt on the verracity of google. They are whatthey are now not because people like the "google" word but because they offer the most correct result up to now, without a vendor/advertising bias. Should they switch to the same result than MSN the outcry would be enormous and rightfully the monopoly comision could again look at such practice of supressing concurrence by borderline legal means.
In the first case (market/user doubt) a new search engine would quickly birth. Whether he could replace google is a matter but i forsee million of geek switching imemdiatly to the new search engine.
In the second case in the US and in EU a lot of outcry on unfair competition would rise, and that is quite not what they need at them moment especially with the EU inquiries. Even more I suspect if they shunt down the link then the Eu would quickly raise a brow even quicker than with the media player.
If there is chasm of quality between paid content and free content (like national subventioned tv and cable tv where I live) then people will go for the highiest quality because they have the feeling they get something for their money (I take the tv example as it is what comes as near in mater of content as of web). But if somebody is Offering the same or equivalent conent at same or acceptably same quality then people will not go to pay for service. This is especially true if the free content is in a greater mass than paid content.
The tendence might invert itself. But it will take a lot of time. And I even think maybe never because they will always be a drove of talended people making something for free.
It is already listing the number of weapon and enemy you might encounter showing comba focus even before speaking of what the rest might be. So I would say, this is everquest but in the Matrix. Nothing is said in the FAQ for a game which should be far advanced (release 2004!) about roleplay, quest, impact of online player, etc... etc...
... hotel phone, airport phone, trainstation phone, coin phone, or even phone shope allowing conenction all over th worled ? You might not be able to phone from grand-canyon but for a few use in a decenny it is probably cheaper.
Drive the sale of a piece of software/hardware/printer/whatever up by having a low price where you make no benefit, as long as you can recoup on software/hardware/ink cartridge. Rant or discuss as much as you want but as long as they make no loss either this is a good buisness model which sure as hell atrract probably more customer to them than anybody else in the download music market.
It does not protect from private owned company neither does it force private owned company to allow you a right to speak. What did Symantec might be strange, or a feature , or even a glitch or even a taste of their political view. It does not matter First amendement or any other do not apply there. All amendement apply only within interraction between citizen and governement. not between private people. You do not have the right to express yourself at my home/firm if I say so.
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Funny at least they did not dare put this in first position (FYI I did not find the above on the first pages from google but maybe I am blind).
But frankly if US (people and governement) would learn to check its own internal state of affair , own crime rate, and so on, before looking at its near and far neighbourghs, maybe such stuff like the totally democratic patriotic act, dmca, percent of murder (yeah not reported crime) per 100000, drug, poverty would be less blatantly spring to the eye of foreigner about US flaw.
In other word : do not point finger because not only you aren't perfect , but also your so called liberty of expression, many times amount to say what is "accepted" by the majority in fear of getting isolated in a community.
was shown later to be completly bogus. You would think that if there was anything *not* bogus into altering a person mood/buying habits by flashing subliminal image, then I can't speak for the US but as you pointed out EU consumer protection or EU governement would since long have taken a step against it. Especially that forcefully altering the mood/reaction of someone else is seen as a VERY BAD thing (tm) and is taboo/feared in many country (think of voodo and other black magic:)... ). People would as soon burn down the social siege of a firm using that rather than have a law against it....
I do not follow US politic very much, but isn't there a conflict of interrest in between a politcian with an official function, and being the ehad of a firm, *and* proposing law which directly impact your firm ? If he become head of MPAA should not he give up every official place or position he might have ?
First a trademark has to be actively defended or you loose it. So the firm holding the trademark "bourse des vols" defended it being used by competitor. Just like any US yahoo firm would have defended their term used by competitor in anadvertising with "ford" in it for example.
Second what is with all this xenophobic spout I see thrown at the french ? First and formore US judge and politics are as able to make BIIIG way mistake as french one (COPA, DMCA, Patriot act and I pass many other there).
Second if you really do not wish to have any relationship with french , then buy ntohing from them, sell them nothing, do not even speak on them, ignroe them completly. Throwing xenophobic insult at them only show how "petty" and "arrogant" you are. Do really US peopel feel so insucre that they have to throw insult each possible moment at european in general and french in particular ? Tolerance serems a vain word in some people mouth [or writing].
So Please hold off the insult and discuss whether the trademark law are bad or not, or whether the judge really outstepped its power. Remmember, he did not judge whether internet was an althogether different medium, he did judge it as it was one of the old break and mortar medium [paper], and in France you DO NOT HAVE the right to use your competitor trade mark. (or at least so I remmember. This is why we do not have comparative publicity olike in US/UK).
As Far as I can see in all my scientific carrier (physic) I heard only of Nichola Tesla. Edisson was mentionned but not really acclaimed and put on a "golden" pedestral like US people seems to puit him.
Heck Tesla even has an UNIT (the Tesla:)... ) of its own. And NO there is no Edisson unit. I never heard of Edisson so much as since I connect to slashdot.
One can argue that Edisson might be underestimated for a reason or another, but this is usually not the way of science, which is usually not country-centrist. I am really wondering at time if Edisson is not simply an overblown legend from the US, a bit like billy the kid, or whatever.
Truth is, in % US has one of the record of prison population. truth is, USA had one of the worst propaganda during maccarthysm era, and APPLIED it (thus joining the rank of the "operessor"), truth is you may have many freedom written on paper, but as the parent post pointed out, if people FEAR the repression be it governemental or by its citizenon opinion, then you failed as much as any other country.
I do not say other country have more freedom, I only say that the freedom you tout so much is as good or as bad as the average western EU country. We may not have it written in our consitution, but we use it as freely as you.
Actually one has to wonder why you feel you have to scream so much about your freedom to speak up, and never really use it but that is my opinion. Oh yes, I forgot. This is Anti Patriotic to speak up.
This is one example among any. As long as people DO hate, and as long as other will take the time to orgnaize among themselves their "hate" agenda, any form of communication can be used to organize killing too. Thus, yes Web site can be terrorist organisation.
Omnes Blessant Ultima Necat if I am not mistaken. it was ingraved on all roman sundial.
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I was never allowed to watch TV , except for the 20h30-21h news program which we watched in family. Cartoon ? Only the bugs bunny one before the evnning film (this was long ago...). Result ? Instead of watching Tv I read. Assimov. Heinlein. Clarck. P.K. Dick. F. Pohl. H. P. Lovecraft (yeah yeah i know my taste are... special). And going outside ! green Stuff ! Woot ! The result ? I have an enorm imagination. TV is only "on" to hear some background noise when i am alone (I detest silence). And I have developped a real memory. When I watch what some of my contemporain were doing at the same tinme... I also KNOW what is a forest , what is to be in the middle of a deer herd (scarying... trust me... especially when they run toward you) or a boar rushing headlong to you:). A pity many folk never know what a real tree or forest outside the small screen.
I mean, I programmed this last month a test tool application on a LAN network, and frankly I *DO NOT* need to have a delete file command in the client. I mean,the client pretty well know which files it has to update (it is included in the update message) and it launch an updater application in background and stop itself so as to allow the files to be deleted/copied.
This is one solution, and I am pretty sure bunch of people here can come with others. But having a delete command is certainly a loosy way to do that. Heck on the net it OBVIOUSLY means that you open the door to an attacked reverse engineering your app for bad purpose and allow it a nice way to wreak havoc on a system. Either their application E.S.5 is not that great as they are hypping it (haha), or they really are searching excuse for obvious malware. If this is the second option which is true, the next malware code will be hidden behind encryption and packet won't be easily decoded.
people go away from ES5. You will from now on have now way to determine if you are not installing a trojan on your computer UNLESS they give you the source code and a compiler to compare the final binaries md5 with what you can generate...
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Actually this is moe like concentration (what the western buisness men wants, all drool at night over monopoly or being the obligatory passage for any sort of application) vs country which want the pwoer be mroe democratic and think that too much power in the same individual (USA anyone) is imperialistic and none too good for the world at large. And seeing on how on the diplomatic field USA is handling the democratic process (Guatamalo bay, Irak, Afghanistan etc...), then one cannot do anything but understand why many country watch anything americano centrist as the ICANN or any instance under the ehavy hands of American very very carefully. The objection would be probably far far less if ICANN was , let us say german or Italian.
There was a recent article from CNN.COM about india outsourcing and the number I recall was 4.5$ per hour. I do not know what the US minimum wage is.
Because in this case there is a causality , not the one you are choosing (darkness provok sun going down) but the other way sun going down provok darkness. In the example of what they give in the FAQ there may not even be a correlation or causality. And to have a prediction better than what the statistical random prediction would be then you have to have a causal relationship between the two. It might be complex it might be indirect transitive (a->b->->...->n) but it has to be tehre. Else you observe two variable which are not related.
I can remmember that the best example of statistic is where you take the strength of the tide and the number of cupware stuff bought over the last 10 years and find a high correlation or even a high predictability. But since the two are unrelated by causality, but even with an ultra precise measurement of the next tidal wave you cannot predict (for obvious reason) the next cupware sale better than a blind random draw.
And this is IMO the big point ehre. They might have found correlation , but I do not think they found causality. Proof is that when they try to predict the "hit" of the year 70-80 they consistently fail to predict anything.
if their algorithm was really foudned on what human like to ear then it would consistently find the same result whatever the epoche as they themselves point out in their own FAQ !!! I won't bother search back (page do not answer) but they said right at the starts that what human like is a constant that can be mathematically calculated.
Quote : " What do big hits typically score? As stated above we tend to use 7.00 and higher as a score for a hit song because that's where they tend to score. There have been hits that score a little lower but the promotion has tended to be more aggressive. Some big hits score very low on the HSS scale but more than make up for that low score in other aspects of analyses that a label can do on your music with us if you happen to be negotiating a deal. ".
It sound like "we found some correlation, but there is data outside the correlation, and sometimes downright anti-correlation between reality and prediction". I think without looking at the data and the real corelation coeficient between "predicting it will be a hit" and "it was a hit" it is difficult to say anything. And even then, correlation between data does not mean there is causal relation, although *pleasing* to the ear is certainly why we hear at music. I think this kleave other factor out. For example the signification of the lyrics. You ear Mozart uniquely for the pure sound pleasantness, but you do not ear some of the rock/pop for its sound only (try it, many of the greatest hit sound "bland" without their lyric).
Plus even if they try to "reassure" customer in their FAQ, if you comapre things to the past and try to reproduce what has the best functionned in the past, then you will never innovate. Which is IMO the biggest problem now (and it feels that new bands/singer are solely choosen on their look, given prefabricated lyric and tune, and marketed as prima dona, instead of having bands/singer raise on their own by the sheer beauty of their music).
We got a "sorry" speech from the mayor personally. Rumor at time was that nearly 50% of the measured radioactivity nearby was not from chernobyl but from the release. I can't say if this was true or not but we ertainly a got a lot of "bow down" and "please pardon" speech...
Because if they did that they would create market doubt and user doubt on the verracity of google. They are whatthey are now not because people like the "google" word but because they offer the most correct result up to now, without a vendor/advertising bias. Should they switch to the same result than MSN the outcry would be enormous and rightfully the monopoly comision could again look at such practice of supressing concurrence by borderline legal means.
In the first case (market/user doubt) a new search engine would quickly birth. Whether he could replace google is a matter but i forsee million of geek switching imemdiatly to the new search engine.
In the second case in the US and in EU a lot of outcry on unfair competition would rise, and that is quite not what they need at them moment especially with the EU inquiries. Even more I suspect if they shunt down the link then the Eu would quickly raise a brow even quicker than with the media player.
Then it become a MACROpayement ;).
If there is chasm of quality between paid content and free content (like national subventioned tv and cable tv where I live) then people will go for the highiest quality because they have the feeling they get something for their money (I take the tv example as it is what comes as near in mater of content as of web). But if somebody is Offering the same or equivalent conent at same or acceptably same quality then people will not go to pay for service. This is especially true if the free content is in a greater mass than paid content.
The tendence might invert itself. But it will take a lot of time. And I even think maybe never because they will always be a drove of talended people making something for free.
It is already listing the number of weapon and enemy you might encounter showing comba focus even before speaking of what the rest might be. So I would say, this is everquest but in the Matrix. Nothing is said in the FAQ for a game which should be far advanced (release 2004!) about roleplay, quest, impact of online player, etc... etc...
... hotel phone, airport phone, trainstation phone, coin phone, or even phone shope allowing conenction all over th worled ? You might not be able to phone from grand-canyon but for a few use in a decenny it is probably cheaper.
Drive the sale of a piece of software/hardware/printer/whatever up by having a low price where you make no benefit, as long as you can recoup on software/hardware/ink cartridge. Rant or discuss as much as you want but as long as they make no loss either this is a good buisness model which sure as hell atrract probably more customer to them than anybody else in the download music market.
and at that a brand name unrelated to them might be far more worth than a really good search engine made in house.
It does not protect from private owned company neither does it force private owned company to allow you a right to speak. What did Symantec might be strange, or a feature , or even a glitch or even a taste of their political view. It does not matter First amendement or any other do not apply there. All amendement apply only within interraction between citizen and governement. not between private people. You do not have the right to express yourself at my home/firm if I say so.
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Funny at least they did not dare put this in first position (FYI I did not find the above on the first pages from google but maybe I am blind).
But frankly if US (people and governement) would learn to check its own internal state of affair , own crime rate, and so on, before looking at its near and far neighbourghs, maybe such stuff like the totally democratic patriotic act, dmca, percent of murder (yeah not reported crime) per 100000, drug, poverty would be less blatantly spring to the eye of foreigner about US flaw.
In other word : do not point finger because not only you aren't perfect , but also your so called liberty of expression, many times amount to say what is "accepted" by the majority in fear of getting isolated in a community.
was shown later to be completly bogus. You would think that if there was anything *not* bogus into altering a person mood/buying habits by flashing subliminal image, then I can't speak for the US but as you pointed out EU consumer protection or EU governement would since long have taken a step against it. Especially that forcefully altering the mood/reaction of someone else is seen as a VERY BAD thing (tm) and is taboo/feared in many country (think of voodo and other black magic :)... ). People would as soon burn down the social siege of a firm using that rather than have a law against it....
I do not follow US politic very much, but isn't there a conflict of interrest in between a politcian with an official function, and being the ehad of a firm, *and* proposing law which directly impact your firm ? If he become head of MPAA should not he give up every official place or position he might have ?
and so have to ABIDE french law of not using your competitor trademark.
First a trademark has to be actively defended or you loose it. So the firm holding the trademark "bourse des vols" defended it being used by competitor. Just like any US yahoo firm would have defended their term used by competitor in anadvertising with "ford" in it for example.
Second what is with all this xenophobic spout I see thrown at the french ? First and formore US judge and politics are as able to make BIIIG way mistake as french one (COPA, DMCA, Patriot act and I pass many other there).
Second if you really do not wish to have any relationship with french , then buy ntohing from them, sell them nothing, do not even speak on them, ignroe them completly. Throwing xenophobic insult at them only show how "petty" and "arrogant" you are. Do really US peopel feel so insucre that they have to throw insult each possible moment at european in general and french in particular ? Tolerance serems a vain word in some people mouth [or writing].
So Please hold off the insult and discuss whether the trademark law are bad or not, or whether the judge really outstepped its power. Remmember, he did not judge whether internet was an althogether different medium, he did judge it as it was one of the old break and mortar medium [paper], and in France you DO NOT HAVE the right to use your competitor trade mark. (or at least so I remmember. This is why we do not have comparative publicity olike in US/UK).
As Far as I can see in all my scientific carrier (physic) I heard only of Nichola Tesla. Edisson was mentionned but not really acclaimed and put on a "golden" pedestral like US people seems to puit him.
:)... ) of its own. And NO there is no Edisson unit. I never heard of Edisson so much as since I connect to slashdot.
Heck Tesla even has an UNIT (the Tesla
One can argue that Edisson might be underestimated for a reason or another, but this is usually not the way of science, which is usually not country-centrist. I am really wondering at time if Edisson is not simply an overblown legend from the US, a bit like billy the kid, or whatever.
Truth is, in % US has one of the record of prison population. truth is, USA had one of the worst propaganda during maccarthysm era, and APPLIED it (thus joining the rank of the "operessor"), truth is you may have many freedom written on paper, but as the parent post pointed out, if people FEAR the repression be it governemental or by its citizenon opinion, then you failed as much as any other country.
I do not say other country have more freedom, I only say that the freedom you tout so much is as good or as bad as the average western EU country. We may not have it written in our consitution, but we use it as freely as you.
Actually one has to wonder why you feel you have to scream so much about your freedom to speak up, and never really use it but that is my opinion. Oh yes, I forgot. This is Anti Patriotic to speak up.
This is one example among any. As long as people DO hate, and as long as other will take the time to orgnaize among themselves their "hate" agenda, any form of communication can be used to organize killing too. Thus, yes Web site can be terrorist organisation.
Omnes Blessant Ultima Necat if I am not mistaken. it was ingraved on all roman sundial.
I was never allowed to watch TV , except for the 20h30-21h news program which we watched in family. Cartoon ? Only the bugs bunny one before the evnning film (this was long ago...). Result ? Instead of watching Tv I read. Assimov. Heinlein. Clarck. P.K. Dick. F. Pohl. H. P. Lovecraft (yeah yeah i know my taste are ... special). And going outside ! green Stuff ! Woot ! The result ? I have an enorm imagination. TV is only "on" to hear some background noise when i am alone (I detest silence). And I have developped a real memory. When I watch what some of my contemporain were doing at the same tinme... I also KNOW what is a forest , what is to be in the middle of a deer herd (scarying... trust me... especially when they run toward you) or a boar rushing headlong to you :). A pity many folk never know what a real tree or forest outside the small screen.
I mean, I programmed this last month a test tool application on a LAN network, and frankly I *DO NOT* need to have a delete file command in the client. I mean,the client pretty well know which files it has to update (it is included in the update message) and it launch an updater application in background and stop itself so as to allow the files to be deleted/copied.
This is one solution, and I am pretty sure bunch of people here can come with others. But having a delete command is certainly a loosy way to do that. Heck on the net it OBVIOUSLY means that you open the door to an attacked reverse engineering your app for bad purpose and allow it a nice way to wreak havoc on a system. Either their application E.S.5 is not that great as they are hypping it (haha), or they really are searching excuse for obvious malware. If this is the second option which is true, the next malware code will be hidden behind encryption and packet won't be easily decoded.
people go away from ES5. You will from now on have now way to determine if you are not installing a trojan on your computer UNLESS they give you the source code and a compiler to compare the final binaries md5 with what you can generate...