True, bad resolution. Yet I've seen one problem pervasive in Linux GUI's and that is the large amount of real estate that some apps take up. I don't know if this is a WM issue or an App issue, since I don't program. Gaim is hideously large, for instance. Even with my desktop set to small icons and my resolution at 1024x768 it looks more like a 640 or 800 desktop.
The same can be said in reverse. Yes, Windows has many more titles and many of those and others run better on Windows. From a GUI standpoint, however, a MAC beats Windows and Linux hands down. To put it another way, Mac makes Windows look like Linux at the GUI. There are things that Mac can do far better than Windows. There are things that Linux can do far better than both. And there are areas where they overlap. So what? On any given subject one can often out do the other.
That's gotta suck! I'm about to get a Mac. I'm very impressed with their UI and they just seem to do a lot right. I love Linux and will continue to use it, but the community has a long way to go before Linux is "tight" for the desktop. Yes, you can use it on the desktop quite well but there's much work to be done. It's really a shame people don't pull their resources even more and standardize on a few things. I guess that's the nature of OSS but it's also a hinderance to an extent.
Agreed. But it should have been limited in the settlement. This is the one hook they have on most of the industry. Also, many people keep using Windows because they just don't understand what's happening. Viruses often don't completely crash a system and spyware will run and the user can still "work." Another reason is they just don't want to learn a new OS. Many people feel like Windows took enough time to learn. I have my kids on Linux. They work fine. My wife doesn't like it, but she works fine too. I plan on getting a Mac soon and I'm sure they'll use that fine too. The key, teach the young! Give you kids something other than Windows and then they can show the parents how to move around etc. Hey, it's an idea.
One way you can tell it isn't within the FBI is that they aren't saying, "Yeah, George "DarkRathe" Smith hacked into our mail server." A buddy of mine did this years ago. I believe it was either a government web server or they had a list of modem numbers they were hacking. They got in. Played around for about an hour before the knock came at the door. The guys at the door were not amused.
I bought Operation Flashpoint under the impression it was a tactical shooter game too. Turns out, it's a hiking simulator. Of course, if I had my PC sitting my a treadmill with a flat-screen up on my handlebars, I guess I could have gotten some use out of it.
How is it in vain? Let's see...60% voter turn out, free from a brutal dictator...perhaps you live under a brutal dictator and like it or something. Idiot.
Besides, didn't I just hear on the Discovery Channel that a new telescope is to be deployed soon?
Don't have a link, sorry.
"Pulls another?" You, Sir, are at best stupid. The fact that we hadn't had such a disaster up until that point, given the number of missions run, is quite a feat! Let me spell it out for you: WE'RE TAKING TONS OF STEEL, METAL, PLASTIC, AND OTHER MATERIALS, STRAPPING IT TO A HIGHLY EXPLOSIVE CAPSULE, FILLING IT WITH HUMANS AND SHOOTING IT INTO SPACE! Get it? SHOOTING IT INTO SPACE!...INTO SPACE!...not over to Japan, not from New York to L.A.....INTO SPACE! And we've done this at least A HUNDRED TIMES!......A HUNDRED!....INTO SPACE! This isn't you on your skate board doing rim-spins in an empty swimming pool. This is LAUNCHING HUMANS INTO SPACE! Now go rest and be glad heartbeats and breathing are involuntary impulses.
I agree with some of your points. You have apt-get zealots, rpm zealots, YaST zealots. There will have to be some unification if we want to make the next step. This goes for the desktop too. I think Gnome and KDE will have to converge at some point. If we can get a unified package manager or even converge the various systems we will go a long way to making a unified framework. We can have various distro's and still have some convergence. We all use the same kernel after all (for the most part). It's in the best interest of Linux to do so IF we want mainstream viability. If we like things as they are, well it doesn't matter. I want to see Linux on the desktop become as viable as Windows and Mac. I want to go to a store one day and say, "Do you have CoolAppName?" and have them ask, "Do you need it for Windows, Linux, or Mac?" In order for that to happen, we'll have to let go of some things and compromise.
Explain this position because I don't understand. First of all, you can't lament that Windows is ubiquitous and then expect a Linux desktop distro to remain geeky. Second, there are plenty of distro's that work pretty well that still remain advanced underneath. Most distro's, IMO, put WAY too many apps on the desktop. I think the major key is simplification in style and look. I'm not talking about Eye candy limitation but applications. Those aside, there are quirks in some wm's that just need to be cleaned up and have needed this for at least a couple of years. KDE has a quirky menu editor. SuSe 9.2 ships with default menu items that are misplaced and non-functional. There's a QA problem with many Linux distro's and when people bring them up they can be berated and told, "Hey, you can fix that with..." Look, if the average user has to run your bash script or take "72 easy steps" to correct poor QA then we've got serious problems. I use Linux. My kids use Linux. My wife reluctanly uses Linux. For the most part I can poor over a distro and get it to the point that the experience is very good for them. But we all seem to be waiting for that one distro that gets it out of the box. Others, lament the fact that it's even being pursued.
You know it's easy to say, "Who's responsible?" Yet, Microsoft takes little responsibility tangeably. If Windows crashes and you lose your data, what recourse do you have with Microsoft? None. There isn't a damn thing you can do about it. If you're lucky, they'll help you rebuild, debug the code, maybe offer a patch when YOU get your data from backup and get rolling but are they going to pay for downtime? Nope! So with Microsoft you get someone to point the finger at. You get someone to deliver some bad press to. In real-world dollars and time you get very little other than that.
Products aside, MS had built a reputation of intimidation. The Dept.of Justice should have broken the OEM contracts. That would have leveled the playing field a whole lot quicker. As long as they have OEM's at their mercy they'll remain a monopoly. Yes, OEM's have a choice in the outset but what are they to do? I dislike MS more for their "business" practices than their OS's.
There's a reason for it. I call it "Jav's Law of Antithetical Embedded Pricing." The jist of which is: The smaller the device the more likely the OSS-based operating system will actually INCREASE TCO.
It is managing to ignore one of the more common sidenotes to this law by making itself available in the in a country that isn't in the far east.
Why not go ahead and fix global changes to all highlighted cells? This is a bug in need of fixing.
OTOH, as has been said, it's definitely a plus that this can even be done (re: hacking).
When did Republicans win back the South by becoming segregationists? Examples? Republicans, as a whole, have always be the party of racial inclusion and still are. THAT's history. The Democrats depend on bogotry and racism. Jesse Jackson and the like gain power by convincing blacks that the "man" is always out to get them. Conservatives are the ones telling blacks. "You can rise above based on YOUR power, not someone else's." And to the moron who said "The South is racist" he must live on an island. Racism exists everywhere and it goes both ways. Just today a co-worker recounted a story of how he gave a guy he worked with a ride home. The guy was black and from the "oh so tolerant North." The guy told him, "This wouldn't happen back home. A black guy would never get a ride home from a white guy. Just doesn't happen." Face it.
Why hasn't this entire story been modded "Redundant?"
In other news: Apple has released a compact version of their G4-based Macs called the Mini!
Bill Gate's just made a $750m charitable donation!
OH! and there's rumors of an XM/Sirius Satellite Radio merger.
merger.....ahemm...
Yeah because we all know Republicans are bigots, right? Let's check history. Post-Civil War blacks in this country immediately voted in Republican state governments after the war. Eventually, the Democrat Party regained power by preventing blacks from voting. How many Republican KKK members have you heard of? I'd dare say little to none. Yet we still have former KKK members of Congress. What party? hmmm. Blacks have been appointed to higher positions under Republican administrations than under Democrats, including Clinton.
You, Sir, are an idiot. With any luck you can't breed.
We've all wanted to see MS's dominance challenged. We've been working hard to make Linux a viable candidate and it is. We've always known Mac's were a better GUI experience and really a better desktop than Windows. We've always known if they would just bring it to the masses it would go far. Well, now Apple is doing just that.
I don't see this solving all their issues, though I understand the move. Many pirated copies likely come from enterprise editions. Corporations are not likely to start using AU for updating systems. I can tell you I'm having to shut it off, often on the same machines, because Sp4 apparently turns it on. Some products have to be tested or blessed before loading a patch from MS. You can easily violate a contract if you don't follow a vendor's recommendation on patching. My point is, it's not a simple as turning on AU on a server and letting MS do it for you.
While the body may indeed use the "replacement brick" method, our memories are often skewed. Perhaps this is why. Maybe we don't remember the details as thoroughly now as we did 10 days after an event simply because our bodies had to "refresh" our ram. A thought.
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True, bad resolution. Yet I've seen one problem pervasive in Linux GUI's and that is the large amount of real estate that some apps take up. I don't know if this is a WM issue or an App issue, since I don't program. Gaim is hideously large, for instance. Even with my desktop set to small icons and my resolution at 1024x768 it looks more like a 640 or 800 desktop.
The same can be said in reverse. Yes, Windows has many more titles and many of those and others run better on Windows. From a GUI standpoint, however, a MAC beats Windows and Linux hands down. To put it another way, Mac makes Windows look like Linux at the GUI. There are things that Mac can do far better than Windows. There are things that Linux can do far better than both. And there are areas where they overlap. So what? On any given subject one can often out do the other.
Am I going to be able to order Windows from my Spiegel catelogue?
That's gotta suck!
I'm about to get a Mac. I'm very impressed with their UI and they just seem to do a lot right. I love Linux and will continue to use it, but the community has a long way to go before Linux is "tight" for the desktop. Yes, you can use it on the desktop quite well but there's much work to be done. It's really a shame people don't pull their resources even more and standardize on a few things. I guess that's the nature of OSS but it's also a hinderance to an extent.
Agreed. But it should have been limited in the settlement. This is the one hook they have on most of the industry. Also, many people keep using Windows because they just don't understand what's happening. Viruses often don't completely crash a system and spyware will run and the user can still "work." Another reason is they just don't want to learn a new OS. Many people feel like Windows took enough time to learn. I have my kids on Linux. They work fine. My wife doesn't like it, but she works fine too. I plan on getting a Mac soon and I'm sure they'll use that fine too. The key, teach the young! Give you kids something other than Windows and then they can show the parents how to move around etc. Hey, it's an idea.
One way you can tell it isn't within the FBI is that they aren't saying, "Yeah, George "DarkRathe" Smith hacked into our mail server." A buddy of mine did this years ago. I believe it was either a government web server or they had a list of modem numbers they were hacking. They got in. Played around for about an hour before the knock came at the door. The guys at the door were not amused.
I bought Operation Flashpoint under the impression it was a tactical shooter game too. Turns out, it's a hiking simulator. Of course, if I had my PC sitting my a treadmill with a flat-screen up on my handlebars, I guess I could have gotten some use out of it.
In short, the world would be a better place! (grin>
They're both Democrats. "You know, the word 'tax' has fallen out of favor. Let's call them 'administrative fees.'" That's all this is, really.
How is it in vain? Let's see...60% voter turn out, free from a brutal dictator...perhaps you live under a brutal dictator and like it or something. Idiot. Besides, didn't I just hear on the Discovery Channel that a new telescope is to be deployed soon?
Don't have a link, sorry.
Sony owns Paint Shop Pro!?
Yeah...I was a bit outside with that one. But hey, it was more for him...the slow one. :)
"Pulls another?" You, Sir, are at best stupid. The fact that we hadn't had such a disaster up until that point, given the number of missions run, is quite a feat! Let me spell it out for you: WE'RE TAKING TONS OF STEEL, METAL, PLASTIC, AND OTHER MATERIALS, STRAPPING IT TO A HIGHLY EXPLOSIVE CAPSULE, FILLING IT WITH HUMANS AND SHOOTING IT INTO SPACE! Get it? SHOOTING IT INTO SPACE! ...INTO SPACE!...not over to Japan, not from New York to L.A.....INTO SPACE! And we've done this at least A HUNDRED TIMES! ......A HUNDRED! ....INTO SPACE! This isn't you on your skate board doing rim-spins in an empty swimming pool. This is LAUNCHING HUMANS INTO SPACE! Now go rest and be glad heartbeats and breathing are involuntary impulses.
I agree with some of your points. You have apt-get zealots, rpm zealots, YaST zealots. There will have to be some unification if we want to make the next step. This goes for the desktop too. I think Gnome and KDE will have to converge at some point. If we can get a unified package manager or even converge the various systems we will go a long way to making a unified framework. We can have various distro's and still have some convergence. We all use the same kernel after all (for the most part). It's in the best interest of Linux to do so IF we want mainstream viability. If we like things as they are, well it doesn't matter. I want to see Linux on the desktop become as viable as Windows and Mac. I want to go to a store one day and say, "Do you have CoolAppName?" and have them ask, "Do you need it for Windows, Linux, or Mac?" In order for that to happen, we'll have to let go of some things and compromise.
Explain this position because I don't understand. First of all, you can't lament that Windows is ubiquitous and then expect a Linux desktop distro to remain geeky. Second, there are plenty of distro's that work pretty well that still remain advanced underneath. Most distro's, IMO, put WAY too many apps on the desktop. I think the major key is simplification in style and look. I'm not talking about Eye candy limitation but applications. Those aside, there are quirks in some wm's that just need to be cleaned up and have needed this for at least a couple of years. KDE has a quirky menu editor. SuSe 9.2 ships with default menu items that are misplaced and non-functional. There's a QA problem with many Linux distro's and when people bring them up they can be berated and told, "Hey, you can fix that with..." Look, if the average user has to run your bash script or take "72 easy steps" to correct poor QA then we've got serious problems. I use Linux. My kids use Linux. My wife reluctanly uses Linux. For the most part I can poor over a distro and get it to the point that the experience is very good for them. But we all seem to be waiting for that one distro that gets it out of the box. Others, lament the fact that it's even being pursued.
You know it's easy to say, "Who's responsible?" Yet, Microsoft takes little responsibility tangeably. If Windows crashes and you lose your data, what recourse do you have with Microsoft? None. There isn't a damn thing you can do about it. If you're lucky, they'll help you rebuild, debug the code, maybe offer a patch when YOU get your data from backup and get rolling but are they going to pay for downtime? Nope! So with Microsoft you get someone to point the finger at. You get someone to deliver some bad press to. In real-world dollars and time you get very little other than that.
Products aside, MS had built a reputation of intimidation. The Dept.of Justice should have broken the OEM contracts. That would have leveled the playing field a whole lot quicker. As long as they have OEM's at their mercy they'll remain a monopoly. Yes, OEM's have a choice in the outset but what are they to do? I dislike MS more for their "business" practices than their OS's.
There's a reason for it. I call it "Jav's Law of Antithetical Embedded Pricing." The jist of which is: The smaller the device the more likely the OSS-based operating system will actually INCREASE TCO.
It is managing to ignore one of the more common sidenotes to this law by making itself available in the in a country that isn't in the far east.
Why not go ahead and fix global changes to all highlighted cells? This is a bug in need of fixing. OTOH, as has been said, it's definitely a plus that this can even be done (re: hacking).
When did Republicans win back the South by becoming segregationists? Examples? Republicans, as a whole, have always be the party of racial inclusion and still are. THAT's history. The Democrats depend on bogotry and racism. Jesse Jackson and the like gain power by convincing blacks that the "man" is always out to get them. Conservatives are the ones telling blacks. "You can rise above based on YOUR power, not someone else's." And to the moron who said "The South is racist" he must live on an island. Racism exists everywhere and it goes both ways. Just today a co-worker recounted a story of how he gave a guy he worked with a ride home. The guy was black and from the "oh so tolerant North." The guy told him, "This wouldn't happen back home. A black guy would never get a ride home from a white guy. Just doesn't happen." Face it.
Why hasn't this entire story been modded "Redundant?"
In other news: Apple has released a compact version of their G4-based Macs called the Mini!
Bill Gate's just made a $750m charitable donation!
OH! and there's rumors of an XM/Sirius Satellite Radio merger.
merger.....ahemm...
Yeah because we all know Republicans are bigots, right? Let's check history. Post-Civil War blacks in this country immediately voted in Republican state governments after the war. Eventually, the Democrat Party regained power by preventing blacks from voting. How many Republican KKK members have you heard of? I'd dare say little to none. Yet we still have former KKK members of Congress. What party? hmmm. Blacks have been appointed to higher positions under Republican administrations than under Democrats, including Clinton.
You, Sir, are an idiot. With any luck you can't breed.
We've all wanted to see MS's dominance challenged. We've been working hard to make Linux a viable candidate and it is. We've always known Mac's were a better GUI experience and really a better desktop than Windows. We've always known if they would just bring it to the masses it would go far. Well, now Apple is doing just that.
I don't see this solving all their issues, though I understand the move. Many pirated copies likely come from enterprise editions. Corporations are not likely to start using AU for updating systems. I can tell you I'm having to shut it off, often on the same machines, because Sp4 apparently turns it on. Some products have to be tested or blessed before loading a patch from MS. You can easily violate a contract if you don't follow a vendor's recommendation on patching. My point is, it's not a simple as turning on AU on a server and letting MS do it for you.
While the body may indeed use the "replacement brick" method, our memories are often skewed. Perhaps this is why. Maybe we don't remember the details as thoroughly now as we did 10 days after an event simply because our bodies had to "refresh" our ram. A thought.