So with that, and them not defending their mark for the 10 years that N-e-t-s-c-a-p-e, pronounced Mozilla has been around, I don't see how they have a case.
The open source web browser , designed for standards-compliance, performance, and portability, whose development is coordinated by mozilla.org.
The Mozilla project started in March 1998 when Netscape Communications Corporation released the source code of Netscape Communicator . The now abandoned version based on that code is referred to as "Mozilla Classic". Since then, much has been rewritten, including the layout engine, the networking library, and the front-end.
mozilla.org was set up by Netscape in January 1998 to coordinate development and to provide a point of contact for interested people.
Although a lot of Mozilla code is under the original Netscape Public License, some parts of the code are under the Mozilla Public License or dual MPL/GPL.
"Mozilla" was the original project code name for Netscape Navigator and, according to some of the documentation, the correct pronunciation of "Netscape".
I try to get my parents to use Gecko based browsers. They use NS6 on the laptop because IE doesn't work. They seem to think, "we have Norton, it will keep us safe!" What BS.
I believe this is good, very good. Offering their PCs in stores will of course increase sales, but also be a way for people who don't like to shop online to buy offline. One small question: under this new deal, will there be support centres as well?
This suit is STUPID! I hope it's dismissed or the defendants win. I also hope the people who brought the suit are forced to write a paper on processors and processor speed! They will then learn for a change instead of being a bunch of crybabies!
This confirms everything that annoys me about Lindoze. Lindoze has taken everything we love about Linux and OSS and made into a "Den of Robbers" (Matthew 21:13, RSV).
I believe Lindoze will be gone before you know it.
As far as I can tell from The Register's article, Mozilla was not effected. However, in saying that, Opera released a new Windows build to address an SSL problem. I don't know if its the same one that affected MSIE & Konq.
The question is: why aren't they moving? The answers I've most often heard are:
1) Not enough applications on X yet.
I see why this is vaild. There are many apps that I use that are available ONLY for Mac OS 9 and previous. The programmers ether have an OS X version in Beta or have no plans to do one.
2) Not enough hardware drivers on X yet.
I can't comment.
3) Don't like the UI
I love the UI. To me, this is a case of oldtime Mac users who are afraid of change.
In my view, Apple should keep OS 9 until the winter of 2003. By then, I believe most of the problems will be fixed.
Joel's a blooming idiot. I read somewere (I think it was JWZ's site) that the 4.xx code given to Mozilla dot org was so bloated and filled with dead code that they had no choice but to rewrite it. I for one, am glad they did. On software taking 10 years to be good, that may be. However, that depends on real world factors.
I feel there was something wrong in his life outside the game. I also feel that the pressure of the game bundled with the pressures of outside life brought it on. Is the boy to blame? You could interfer that. Is the game to blame? I'm not going to play shrink and give an answer.
A good ISP should have support for products that have GOOD MARKET SHARE. The only browsers that have this are IE & NS. Opera and Moz have only 1% market share. Why should an ISP support it?
Recently I had a problem setting up my ISP's mail account in NS6. They were very helpful.
On the jilted developers webpage, it says he is 15. Why can't he wait 3 years and then reapply to join the Darwin project? Barring that, I feel that everyone goofed on this one. Blame should be assigned to Apple for not catching this before. His parents should accept a helping of blame. They should have kept track of what he was doing and have read the legalese before touching the code! The jilted developer should also be ashamed for not bowing out with grace.
When I was 15, I was flying though my history classes and going to battlefields and other historical places...
This is what I wrote: (Sorry for the double post but I messed up the HTML formatting in the first post:
To the Apple Survey:
I last used a Mac back in 1994. A year later my school began the switch to Wintel PCs. I did as well. Since that happened, I have been considering going back, or as the British say, "Crossing the floor."
However, there have been many things that have not hastened my return to the orchid. One is the lack of software for the MacOS (both classic & carbon).
I realize that popular software such as Netscape or Microsoft's various products has been ported. This is good, but how about the niche software some of us use that has not been ported to the MacOS? Another is price of Apple hardware. I have found that the price of Apple's hardware is often double or triple of some PCs I have brought. I realize you have to make money to stay in business. However, I find the cost of your hardware very obscene and out of range for most of us common folks.
If changes are made, maybe I will come back and play in the orchid.
This is what I sent in:
To the Apple Survey:
I last used a Mac back in 1994. A year later my school began the switch to Wintel PCs. I did as well. Since that happened, I have been considering going back, or as the British say, "Crossing the floor."
However, there have been many things that have not hastened my return to the orchid. One is the lack of software for the MacOS (both classic & carbon).
I realize that popular software such as Netscape or Microsoft's various products has been ported. This is good, but how about the niche software some of us use that has not been ported to the MacOS? Another is price of Apple hardware. I have found that the price of Apple's hardware is often double or triple of some PCs I have brought. I realize you have to make money to stay in business. However, I find the cost of your hardware very obscene and out of range for most of us common folks.
If changes are made, maybe I will come back and play in the orchid.
Regards
In theory, NewsBytes is correct. Netscape 6.xx is a Browser Suite, and Navigator is one of the programmes in the NS6 suite along with Composer, AIM, Address Book, and Mail/News. When you start calling the entire NS6 suite 'Navigator', that's *not* correct. It's like calling the entire UK "England" or the whole of the old USSR "Russia".
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AFAIK, It's MSIE 93%, NS 5%.
No so. Mozilla has been around for 4 years.
Mozilla
The open source web browser , designed for standards-compliance, performance, and portability, whose development is coordinated by mozilla.org.
The Mozilla project started in March 1998 when Netscape Communications Corporation released the source code of Netscape Communicator . The now abandoned version based on that code is referred to as "Mozilla Classic". Since then, much has been rewritten, including the layout engine, the networking library, and the front-end.
mozilla.org was set up by Netscape in January 1998 to coordinate development and to provide a point of contact for interested people.
Although a lot of Mozilla code is under the original Netscape Public License, some parts of the code are under the Mozilla Public License or dual MPL/GPL.
"Mozilla" was the original project code name for Netscape Navigator and, according to some of the documentation, the correct pronunciation of "Netscape".
Home (http://www.mozilla.org/) .
[Derived from "Mosaic killer/Godzilla"?]
Notice the last line?
I try to get my parents to use Gecko based browsers. They use NS6 on the laptop because IE doesn't work. They seem to think, "we have Norton, it will keep us safe!" What BS.
The gestures are pretty awkward compared to Opera and appear to be rushed. I hope they improve in the future.
I am wondering since the area you serve is pretty large, how do you store the servers? Also, what OS do you use?
There have been stories of broadband ISPs blocking filesharing via gnutella or a Napster client. Do you support this idea?
It's possible. Wally World has sold OSless PCs, but I don't think MS has cared one way or the other.
I believe this is good, very good. Offering their PCs in stores will of course increase sales, but also be a way for people who don't like to shop online to buy offline. One small question: under this new deal, will there be support centres as well?
This suit is STUPID! I hope it's dismissed or the defendants win. I also hope the people who brought the suit are forced to write a paper on processors and processor speed! They will then learn for a change instead of being a bunch of crybabies!
Why dosen't the Godzilla(tm) peoplw sue JWZ since he created the name for a certain GPL/LGPL/MPL licensed browser suite?
This confirms everything that annoys me about Lindoze. Lindoze has taken everything we love about Linux and OSS and made into a "Den of Robbers" (Matthew 21:13, RSV). I believe Lindoze will be gone before you know it.
As far as I can tell from The Register's article, Mozilla was not effected. However, in saying that, Opera released a new Windows build to address an SSL problem. I don't know if its the same one that affected MSIE & Konq.
Give me a friggin' break! We all know MSIE's real total is around 60%. The others are spoofer or bald face liars.
1) Not enough applications on X yet.
I see why this is vaild. There are many apps that I use that are available ONLY for Mac OS 9 and previous. The programmers ether have an OS X version in Beta or have no plans to do one.
2) Not enough hardware drivers on X yet.
I can't comment.
3) Don't like the UI
I love the UI. To me, this is a case of oldtime Mac users who are afraid of change.
In my view, Apple should keep OS 9 until the winter of 2003. By then, I believe most of the problems will be fixed.
Joel's a blooming idiot. I read somewere (I think it was JWZ's site) that the 4.xx code given to Mozilla dot org was so bloated and filled with dead code that they had no choice but to rewrite it. I for one, am glad they did. On software taking 10 years to be good, that may be. However, that depends on real world factors.
I see no problems for the lad as long he doesn't reverse-engineer the GBA.
I feel there was something wrong in his life outside the game. I also feel that the pressure of the game bundled with the pressures of outside life brought it on. Is the boy to blame? You could interfer that. Is the game to blame? I'm not going to play shrink and give an answer.
It's a weak google ripoff...Even down to the design. I ask...Why?
Thanks for the warning; I'm going back to Eudora.
Recently I had a problem setting up my ISP's mail account in NS6. They were very helpful.
When I was 15, I was flying though my history classes and going to battlefields and other historical places...
To the Apple Survey:
I last used a Mac back in 1994. A year later my school began the switch to Wintel PCs. I did as well. Since that happened, I have been considering going back, or as the British say, "Crossing the floor."
However, there have been many things that have not hastened my return to the orchid. One is the lack of software for the MacOS (both classic & carbon). I realize that popular software such as Netscape or Microsoft's various products has been ported. This is good, but how about the niche software some of us use that has not been ported to the MacOS? Another is price of Apple hardware. I have found that the price of Apple's hardware is often double or triple of some PCs I have brought. I realize you have to make money to stay in business. However, I find the cost of your hardware very obscene and out of range for most of us common folks.
If changes are made, maybe I will come back and play in the orchid.
Regards
This is what I sent in: To the Apple Survey: I last used a Mac back in 1994. A year later my school began the switch to Wintel PCs. I did as well. Since that happened, I have been considering going back, or as the British say, "Crossing the floor." However, there have been many things that have not hastened my return to the orchid. One is the lack of software for the MacOS (both classic & carbon). I realize that popular software such as Netscape or Microsoft's various products has been ported. This is good, but how about the niche software some of us use that has not been ported to the MacOS? Another is price of Apple hardware. I have found that the price of Apple's hardware is often double or triple of some PCs I have brought. I realize you have to make money to stay in business. However, I find the cost of your hardware very obscene and out of range for most of us common folks. If changes are made, maybe I will come back and play in the orchid. Regards
Why should I help bankroll a company that thinks it good to gobble every service under the face of the sun up in its wing. I say... NO WAY!!!
In theory, NewsBytes is correct. Netscape 6.xx is a Browser Suite, and Navigator is one of the programmes in the NS6 suite along with Composer, AIM, Address Book, and Mail/News. When you start calling the entire NS6 suite 'Navigator', that's *not* correct. It's like calling the entire UK "England" or the whole of the old USSR "Russia".