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Users Report Warping of Apple's iPhone 6 Plus

MojoKid writes: Apple's iPhone 6 Plus weighs six ounces, and it's a scant 7.1mm thick. As an added bonus, according to a number of users, it has a hidden feature — it bends! And no, we don't mean it bends in a "Hey, what an awesome feature!" sort of way. More like a "Hey, the entire phone is near to snapping" kind of way. What's even more troubling is that many of the users who are reporting bent devices also claim that they were carrying it in front pockets or in a normal fashion as opposed to sitting on it directly. Either some of the iPhone 6 Plus hardware is defective (the vastly preferable option) or it's because the tests run by other venues are putting different kinds of stress on the chassis. It's not clear what the story is. Hopefully Apple will clarify it soon.

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  1. is that an iPhone in your pocket? by turkeydance · · Score: 2

    (punch line)

    1. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by pushing-robot · · Score: 5, Funny

      I hate it when my Schwartz gets all twisted.

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    2. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or are you just bent?

    3. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You're bending it wrong

    4. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      and then you will see, it is not the phone that is bent, it is yourself.

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    5. Re: is that an iPhone in your pocket? by jd2112 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Obviously the iPhone was designed by men because the 6+ is only 5.5 inches...

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    6. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you mean "schwantz" - as in "he vould have an enormous schwanzschtücker."

    7. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      No he means Schwartz. Google: Spaceballs. And may the Schwartz be with you.

    8. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by msauve · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's obviously their new, patented, "bend to unlock" feature.

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    9. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...to see me.

    10. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 2, Interesting
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    11. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1
      Will it bend? https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      Ooops, wrong phone.

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    12. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple's solution once you return your bent iPhone: A new phone and a new pair of wider pants.

    13. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by OakDragon · · Score: 2

      Bend different.

    14. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by peter.kingsbury · · Score: 1

      Right director, wrong movie.

    15. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by TWX · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...may the Schwartz be with you.

      And also with you.

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    16. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by TWX · · Score: 1

      It's twue! It's Twue! IT'S TWUE!

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    17. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by TWX · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I find it curious in their examples, that four of the nine devices susceptible to bending are Apples, and one of the five non-Apple examples involved the device being smashed while sitting on its docking station. If one eliminates that specific outlier and focuses on phones that bend while in their users' pockets, then the iPhone line is a solid half of all types reported in their article.

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    18. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by harperska · · Score: 1

      How dare you use facts to refute the narrative on slashdot article making fun of an Apple product?

    19. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's obviously their new, patented, "bend to unlock" feature.

      You can just microwave it to get rid of any bends.

    20. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      Even more interestingly, the Samsung didn't permanently bend, but the flex of the case allowed damage to the screen. The Sony failures occurred in BACK pockets. The sole Blackberry bend occurred from "unknown causes" - which could have been anything the owner doesn't want to admit, not just a front-pocket failure.

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    21. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by DeputySpade · · Score: 1

      There is no phone!

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    22. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're folding it wrong.

      --Steve Jobs from beyond the grave

      (CAPTCHA is "bendable" - LOL)

    23. Re: is that an iPhone in your pocket? by jackspenn · · Score: 1

      FPF - Front Pocket Failure. You are hilarious. Thank you for making me laugh. That is awesome post.

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    24. Re: is that an iPhone in your pocket? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seems like quality of Apple is falling across the board since Jobs died. I like my apple stuff but I may be switching to a Samsung phone for my next upgrade. Or stay on 5s. Even my Mac seems to be more buggy after updates. The high quality was apples only justification for its high cost stuff. With out that, they are just another company with shitty products. Welcome back to the circling of the drain, we saved your spot Apple.

    25. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by riis138 · · Score: 1

      If only Pizza the Hutt took over after Jobs...if only.

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    26. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuckwit.

    27. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      I find it curious in their examples, that four of the nine devices susceptible to bending are Apples, and one of the five non-Apple examples involved the device being smashed while sitting on its docking station. If one eliminates that specific outlier and focuses on phones that bend while in their users' pockets, then the iPhone line is a solid half of all types reported in their article.

      Yeah, there are more reports about problems with Apple phones - because they sell far more units than any other phone model. And its inconceivable to find more examples of other phones bending by simply Googling.

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    28. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Even more interestingly, the Samsung didn't permanently bend, but the flex of the case allowed damage to the screen.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?... - Rockabye Galaxy on a table top.

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    29. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by mjwx · · Score: 1

      It's obviously their new, patented, "bend to unlock" feature.

      You can just microwave it to get rid of any bends.

      No, no, no,

      You dont microwave out bends (that's only for charging), you need to iron them out. Make sure to use a decent steam iron set to it's hottest setting to avoid creases.

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    30. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by Rudisaurus · · Score: 1

      ...may the Schwartz be with you.

      And also with you.

      Amen

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    31. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Even more interestingly, the Samsung didn't permanently bend, but the flex of the case allowed damage to the screen. The Sony failures occurred in BACK pockets. The sole Blackberry bend occurred from "unknown causes" - which could have been anything the owner doesn't want to admit, not just a front-pocket failure.

      What do you think is so damn special about a front pocket that it would magically protect a phone? As soon as the phone lies across the hip joint, the force on it when sitting down is far greater than the fattest ass could manage.

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    32. Re: is that an iPhone in your pocket? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed I'm die hard apple but seriously things have changed. But one thing il never go Samsung!!!!!!!!!!!!

    33. Re: is that an iPhone in your pocket? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Honestly they actually becoming expensively cheap!!!!

    34. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by Richy_T · · Score: 1

      Depends on the depth of the pockets. My razr rests flat against my thigh, well below the bend.

    35. Re:is that an iPhone in your pocket? by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Depends on the depth of the pockets. My razr rests flat against my thigh, well below the bend.

      Yes, Hip-Hopper are clearly at an advantage here, as are those with tiny phones like a razr. 4.7" assuming you have the "huge" HD? Are you seroius with your micro phone?

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    36. Re: is that an iPhone in your pocket? by digitldlnkwnt · · Score: 1

      I said the same damn thing on the PC Mag site I was met with kinds of bullshit arguments. I fully agree. Now if I can just get past nasty HTC experience

  2. Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    They weren't holding it in the pockets of certified apple jeans!
    WTF do they expect.

    1. Re:Let me guess... by DigiShaman · · Score: 2

      You're storing it wrong!

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    2. Re:Let me guess... by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      This is just an other attempt to get a free Case out of the deal.

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    3. Re:Let me guess... by hsmith · · Score: 2

      You are probably more right than you realize. If the phone is parallel to your leg it won't bend. If it rests non-parallel against your thigh and you sit down, the fabric of your clothes will stretch it around your thigh, thus bending it.

    4. Re:Let me guess... by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      You are probably more right than you realize. If the phone is parallel to your leg it won't bend. If it rests non-parallel against your thigh and you sit down, the fabric of your clothes will stretch it around your thigh, thus bending it.

      If the fabric of my pants is stronger than my phone, then something is wrong, either with the phone or my pants.

    5. Re:Let me guess... by DigiShaman · · Score: 2

      Actually, it could be the pants (and poor judgement of storing the phone). Many designer jeans are already tight round the thigh and buttocks. Typically these jeans have shallow front pockets; thus the phone the phone doesn't travel deep enough to run parallel with the leg. In that situation, the end of the phone would be pressing against your hip when sitting down. It would be uncomfortable. Sitting on the phone in the back pocket will surely bend it regardless of what pants you're wearing however.

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    6. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are probably more right than you realize. If the phone is parallel to your leg it won't bend. If it rests non-parallel against your thigh and you sit down, the fabric of your clothes will stretch it around your thigh, thus bending it.

      If the fabric of my pants is stronger than my phone, then something is wrong, either with the phone or my pants.

      i solve that problem by just not wearing any pants. took my employer some time to accept this but once i called it an "alternative lifestyle" their lawyers were too afraid to hassle me about it.

    7. Re:Let me guess... by tsa · · Score: 1

      So you're wearing a skirt to work?

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    8. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you would be suprised how strong your pants are. You can probably bend some half inch steel bars with those.

    9. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, he's opting out of wearing pants.

    10. Re: Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you're saying that when a dumb hipster puts a dumb hipster phone in his dumb hipster pants, the phone breaks?

    11. Re:Let me guess... by neonfrog · · Score: 1

      But only if you pee on them first. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt01... but not really http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M...

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    12. Re: Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup! Gays and Metrosexuals too. Apple just pissed off their entire liberal base.

      HA HA!!

    13. Re: Let me guess... by sexconker · · Score: 1

      So you're saying that when a dumb hipster puts a dumb hipster phone in his dumb hipster pants, the phone breaks?

      I wonder how long it'll take for having a bent phone to be a hipster fashion statement.

    14. Re:Let me guess... by DarthVain · · Score: 1

      Don't give them any ideas!

      I suddenly had a though of the phone being a particular shape, and the pocket being a particular shape, preventing you from putting a non-iPhone into your pocket and conversely preventing iPhone users from wearing other jeans!

      Also there is some joke in here about all iPhone users being skinny jean wearing hipsters anyway...

    15. Re: Let me guess... by rhook · · Score: 1

      That fad is over now that everyone's sporting a bent iPhone.

    16. Re:Let me guess... by aix+tom · · Score: 1

      If the fabric of my pants is stronger than my phone, then something is wrong, either with the phone or my pants.

      Don't forget: its probably pants made of a fabric that was specifically chosen so that miners could choose rock samples in their trousers vs. some gimmick made of aluminium, a metal that basically bends when you just look at it in a funny way.

    17. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nae, a kilt, laddie, and w' a wee sporran, too!

  3. No problem with Nokia 1320 phone in my Lederhosen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    that device has a 6 inch screen, but the case is all plastic. It would simply break at some point,
    but otherwise it is much more tolerant towards bending forces.

    Afterwards the phone will be subjected to a vomit test on the Oktoberfest.

    Cheers.

  4. It is just me or did you read it as it blends? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I loved the Blendtech ads where they would drop phones in a blender:).

    1. Re:It is just me or did you read it as it blends? by Tmackiller · · Score: 2

      They still do them; https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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  5. Third option by smooth+wombat · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Because a large portions of Americans are obese, having the iPhone in such cramped conditions under extreme pressure for extended periods of time is causing the issue.

    Not sure what the solution is but I'm sure Apple will have a fix out in no time.

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    1. Re:Third option by ProzakLord · · Score: 0

      Something like an Uber bumber. Put your iPhone in a pillow. Doubles up as hemorroid treatment.

    2. Re:Third option by JWW · · Score: 3, Informative
    3. Re:Third option by stealth_finger · · Score: 2

      Yeah I'm sure they'll be able to patch in more structural integrity. I guess in the quest for thinness they forgot about strength.

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    4. Re:Third option by NotDrWho · · Score: 1

      Have faith in Father Steve, my brother, and all will be made well. For he is the reasonably-priced light! This is but a test of faith.

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    5. Re:Third option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, rite

    6. Re:Third option by jez9999 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Hilarious. So people pay way over-the-odds for an Apple phone because it's so thin it could look like a credit card, only to cover it with a thick wrapper because the damn thing's too thin.

    7. Re:Third option by plover · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Not sure what the solution is but I'm sure Apple will have a fix out in no time.

      I doubt that very much. I doubt they'll even acknowledge it.

      If they say "oh, yeah, sorry, our phones bend", what can they do about it? They don't have a solution coming out of the factories. Since the problem is mechanical with the case and chassis being too thin to ever be reliably durable, that could mean a complete redesign of just about every component, including the circuit boards, glass, buttons, everything. (Although they might be able to replace the current aluminum chassis with titanium. That could make the phones strong enough, but way more expensive.) Next, they'll have to ramp up production of the new model and get a few million into the pipeline. That could take a year. Meanwhile, do you think they are going to pull the current phones off the shelves, so they have less to replace?

      No, I would bet that the lawyers are advising them to silently let this go forever, hoping the bending problem doesn't catch on in the mainstream media, or picked up by the late night comedians. They'll wait for it to blow over like they did with the antenna problems on the iPhone 4, because ultimately that proved to be nothing to them.

      Look to them to remain silent right up until some unlucky people bend them in the "wrong way" causing a short, burns, and or fires. That's when there will be a shitstorm of a recall.

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    8. Re:Third option by DigiShaman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Instead of titanium, I wonder if carbon fiber would be a better alternative.

      IANAMS (I'm not a material scientist)

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    9. Re:Third option by OzPeter · · Score: 2

      No, I would bet that the lawyers are advising them to silently let this go forever, hoping the bending problem doesn't catch on in the mainstream media, or picked up by the late night comedians. They'll wait for it to blow over like they did with the antenna problems on the iPhone 4, because ultimately that proved to be nothing to them.

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    10. Re:Third option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      To be honest I can totally imagine some fans believing Apple could fix the issue with an iOS update...

    11. Re:Third option by Ash-Fox · · Score: 5, Funny

      what can they do about it?

      They could release an iOS update that prevents bending. They already released iOS updates for fast recharging via microwave and waterproofing support.

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    12. Re:Third option by Monoman · · Score: 3, Informative

      Titanium will bend but has better memory to return to the original shape. Carbon fiber should be stiffer to resist the flexing in the first place.

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    13. Re:Third option by mrchaotica · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's (mostly) not the material, it's the geometry. The bending modulus of any material depends on the cube of its thickness. Making something both thin and rigid is disproportionately hard, no matter what material you make it out of.

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    14. Re:Third option by swamp+boy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with facts.

    15. Re:Third option by swamp+boy · · Score: 1

      Core Reality 1.0 for iOS. This amazing new technology is revolutionary and we can't wait to see how our customers will use this technology in exciting new ways. We're thrilled to share this insanely great new technology with you. This update is recommended for all iOS users. Best, Uncle Tim.

    16. Re:Third option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To be honest I can totally imagine some fans believing Apple could fix the issue with an iOS update...

      The American public education system is not intended to produce skeptical critical thinkers who question something before believing it. That wouldn't serve the interests of the rich and powerful at all. It's intended to produce an obedient workforce, the managerial ideal of compliance without coercion.

      What you observe is merely one side-effect (of many) of this fact.

    17. Re:Third option by BronsCon · · Score: 1

      I keep my iPad Air in a shockproof case, not because I drop it a lot (though, there was that one time), but because it's just too damn thin to hold comfortably IMO. But, then, how thin it was wasn't a selling point for me; thankfully, neither was the flashiness of "oh, hey look! An APPLE LOGO!" as I bought it knowing that I'd need to put it in a case.

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    18. Re:Third option by BronsCon · · Score: 1

      Well, there's Wave Charging... that should also fix this issue. I mean, once the phone's fried, you don't care anymore that it's also bent.

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    19. Re:Third option by hawguy · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yeah I'm sure they'll be able to patch in more structural integrity. I guess in the quest for thinness they forgot about strength.

      They can't, don't be stupid. If they apply a patch to increase the structural integrity field, that will negatively affect the battery life or they would have turned it up in the first place. Those force fields really eat into the battery life. The Apple Reality Distortion field is bad enough.

    20. Re:Third option by tsa · · Score: 3

      So if they had made the back so thick that the camera didn't stick out everything would have been OK.

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    21. Re:Third option by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      Tungsten might work. It won't actually perform any better; but it should make the phone prohibitively uncomfortable to carry in pocket.

    22. Re:Third option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And yet swordmakers have been doing it for thousands of years.

    23. Re:Third option by Ravaldy · · Score: 1

      There are different aluminum alloys. As far as I can see they could go for a either a thicker alloy or a different one all together. Cost wise it makes sense to stick to aluminum alloys. Graphite and titanium are both very expensive and graphite is not easily recycled which could make it a problem in some countries.

    24. Re:Third option by trytoguess · · Score: 1

      As bizarre as it might seem, I do know some folks who got the iPhone because it's too small size made it so that once they put it into a case, it went from too small (and unprotected) to usable (and protected).

    25. Re:Third option by Ravaldy · · Score: 1

      Which is also why a 1" 22 gauge angle iron is stronger than a 16 gauge flat bar. You need to take the bends into account. Just using a thicker material will help and introducing embossing can also help make the phone sturdier.

    26. Re:Third option by Ravaldy · · Score: 1

      How dare you bring Ford into this.

    27. Re:Third option by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      Indeed -- Apple would get better bang for their buck (or rather, stiffness for their thickness) by increasing the thickness of the material forming the sides of the case rather than the back... but it would still be less effective than increasing the overall depth of the device while leaving the case thickness the same.

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    28. Re:Third option by mrchaotica · · Score: 2

      On the contrary, if you try to bend a sword along the flat side of its blade (the weak axis) it'll flex easily. As an example, the fancy sword in the movie Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon visibly vibrated just from being swung around in the air.

      Now, if you apply force to it on edge -- such as by using it to cut something -- then it will be very stiff, but that's because it's also very thick along that axis.

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    29. Re:Third option by edremy · · Score: 1

      I had assumed the curved back on my HTC One was just for show, but perhaps the designers were actually thinking this way. It's way harder to bend a curved surface than a flat one.

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    30. Re:Third option by Khyber · · Score: 1

      "Although they might be able to replace the current aluminum chassis with titanium. That could make the phones strong enough, but way more expensive."

      Titanium is cheap. Every piercing on my body is titanium, some almost the size of full medical implants (and in fact, including one femoral implant.)

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    31. Re:Third option by grumpyman · · Score: 1

      Maybe they'll provide a free 'reinforcement' case? Like the antenna-gate bumper?

    32. Re:Third option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    33. Re:Third option by Monoman · · Score: 1

      Perhaps magnesium

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    34. Re:Third option by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 2

      There are lines of people at Apple stores hoping for a better reality or at least an improved reality coprocessor.

    35. Re:Third option by macs4all · · Score: 0

      IANAME (I am not a Mechanical Engineer), but, it looks to me like someone either skipped a crucial FEA (Finite Element Analysis), or just decided it was "strong enough", without putting enough eval units out in the field to see what happened "in real life".

      The body really doesn't bend any worse than a lot of other metal-bodied phones; but there is definitely a weak-point where the intrusions for the buttons make the side-walls too thin.

      My suggestion for Apple would be to either make the buttons be capacitive, thus not requiring an intrusion (but unfortunately requiring a case and circuit redesign (which would mean another round of FCC testing)), or perhaps making the button actuators (the part you press-on) vewy, vewy thin (like 30 - 40 thousandths of an inch), and shorter in length, so that the holes in the side of the case would be correspondingly thinner, and thus the case-walls that much more robust. They might also be able to weld/glue a reinforcing plate (or a C-shaped internal "wraparound"), to spread the force over a larger area.

      Both of the latter ideas would require a case redesign and production re-tooling; but would likely not require resubmitting to the FCC.

    36. Re: Third option by jackspenn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Spot on commentary.

      You are saying what many Android users are saying around the virtual water cooler ... aka Google hangouts.

      "So how the hell did Apple release a phone with the camera sticking out the back, especially when increasing the thickness would have allowed for bigger battery and stronger case?"

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    37. Re: Third option by jackspenn · · Score: 1

      So apple fanboys would be best serviced by thick stiffies in tight pants?

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    38. Re:Third option by graphius · · Score: 1

      Many years ago there was a discussion on the merits of all metal camera bodies vs polycarbonate aka plastic. Metal bodies dent and retain the deformation, possibly damaging internal components. Plastic would dent, but then bounce back to its original shape, thus protecting the same internals. for a portable device, ideally the case will absorb impacts and forces and then spring back to its original shape.

    39. Re:Third option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Making something both thin and rigid is disproportionately hard, no matter what material you make it out of.
      It's difficult but that doesn't mean it's equally difficult regardless of material. Spring tempered stainless steel or titanium alloys would probably be exceptional choices compared to aluminum.

      Aluminum isn't very springy either, it deforms quite easily.

    40. Re:Third option by Cabriel · · Score: 1

      I doubt most people buy it because it's thin. Most people buy it because it's new, and powerful, and new. Because having the hottest new item is more important than what it looks like.

      Me, personally? I buy the iPhones because they are solid and even with all the abuse I've put mine through, they haven't broken or bent except for a single crack across the top of the screen caused when I accidentally allowed it to fall face-first onto a large, sharp rock.

    41. Re:Third option by plover · · Score: 1

      Maybe they'll provide a free 'reinforcement' case? Like the antenna-gate bumper?

      That may be their only option. "Here's our sleek iPhone 6 with our trademark shitty battery life, and a three-ounce steel cradle to carry it in. Enjoy, but be sure to hold it the right way."

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    42. Re: Third option by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      "So how the hell did Apple release a phone with the camera sticking out the back?"

      I'd like to ask the same thing to the folks who designed my Nexus 5.

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    43. Re:Third option by Solandri · · Score: 1

      The material plays a large role too. Plastic phones don't have this problem because plastic can yield a much greater amount before suffering plastic deformation (permanent bending). i.e. They can bend the same amount or even more in your pocket, but they'll revert back to their original shape.

      The actual failure mode in the iPhone 6 appears to be insufficient strength at the cutout causing enough deflection for the aluminum at the cutouts to buckle outward. At which point it's deformed plasticly and the phone is permanently bent. I'd posted earlier that the fix would be to put a reinforcing tab behind the cutout. But simply increasing the thickness of the cutout may be enough to prevent the buckling (i.e the phone would still bend, but there would be no buckling and no plastic deformation).

    44. Re:Third option by rahvin112 · · Score: 1

      Titanium will be significantly heavier than aluminum. Carbon fiber is both lighter and stronger than aluminum but it doesn't bend, it shatters. There are always trade offs, if there weren't they would already be making everything out of the perfect material that is strong, light and flexible (non-plastic) but not too flexible such that it damages anything and is inexpensive. Much like everything there are trade-offs. Aluminum and magnesium alloys currently meet most of the targets to acceptable levels without being too costly. You move to the stronger materials and you will either pay for it in weight, durability or cost.

    45. Re:Third option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, that's bizarre, and it sounds self-delusional.

      I love my iPhone, but I'd love it a lot more if it were twice as thick, and built to be robust. Other than performance, I don't love my iPhone 5 any more than my original iPhone. If anything, the larger screen size makes it harder to use, though I do like the extra row of icons and the ability to watch widescreen content without letterboxing; it's a tradeoff. But the thinness? I couldn't possibly care less. The first one was thin enough to be comfortable in a pocket, yet I mostly kept it in a holster anyway, precisely because it was thin enough that I didn't trust it not to break if I kept it in a pocket. And now, they're much, much thinner, and much more fragile.

      Apple's obsession with thin has always seemed bizarre to me. Since approximately the first non-toilet-seat iBook, I've never once looked at a laptop and thought, "I wish this were thinner". They were always thin enough. I mean, computer bags didn't get any thinner, so if you aren't taking up all the space in one, you're just wasting space that you could use for other things. And if you carry it around in a backpack, is that extra quarter inch difference in thickness really going to make the difference between being able to carry around something else and not? Probably not.

      Yet Apple continues to needlessly sacrifice functionality on the altar of thinness. The retina MacBook Pro laptops are about 25% thinner than the pre-retina models, but they have a fourth the storage capacity. With the non-retina machines, you could use a 2 TB hard drive, and replace the optical drive with a second 2 TB hard drive (using third-party mounting brackets and a cover for the slot), for a whopping 4 TB of internal storage. The current MacBook Pro tops out at a mere terabyte. As a photographer, I'm constantly struggling to shift content off onto external drives just to keep in a state where I'm able to apply software updates without running out of disk space.

      Yes, the flash drive in the new machines is faster, but I'd kill to have the pre-retina MacBook Pro design back, with no optical drive, two spinning drives, and a flash stick configured as a hybrid drive cache for one of those spinning drives. That would truly be a laptop designed for professionals, as opposed to the current one, which is almost indistinguishable from the MacBook Air except in screen resolution, a fairly arbitrary (and minimal) improvement in its maximum storage capacity, and lack of CPU throttling to compensate for the Air's way-too-thin case.

      Speaking of the Air, every time I see a MacBook Air, I just want to take it and snap it in half with one hand. It looks too thin to have any strength at all. I could never trust one with my important data, because I'd be too afraid that the tiny little thing would eat itself. When products become too thin, they don't look cool; they just look flimsy.

      And the excessive thinness problem doesn't just apply to Apple's high-ticket electronics. Compare the old iPhone charge cords to the lightning cables, and there's no comparison. I carried around a 30-pin charge cable in my bag for almost six years (in part because I forgot to take it out for the first year after I upgraded to an iPhone 5), and it held up just fine. By contrast, I kept the Lightning cable that came with my iPhone 5 in the same bag, under essentially the same conditions. Within a year, the cable looked thin and kinked right at the Lightning connector, indicating that the structural components of the cable had failed. Had I continued using it, it almost certainly would have failed within a few more months, so I replaced it with a third-party Lightning cable from Amazon that's about twice as thick.

      Does the lack of flexibility in Amazon's cable bother me? No, and it didn't bother me in the first iPhone cable, either. When it comes to cables, robustness is the primary concern, not thinness. I really can't imagine the sort of nutcase who would rather have a thinner, broke

    46. Re:Third option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I, too, found a fix:

      http://www.jennycraig.com/

    47. Re: Third option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "So how the hell did Apple release a phone with the camera sticking out the back, especially when increasing the thickness would have allowed for bigger battery and stronger case?"

      And more to the point, didn't anybody actually carry-test this device before they shipped it? Unfortunately, given Apple's norm, we're likely to be stuck with this too-thin, too-flexible design for two years.

      The sad part is that 99% of consumers won't care, because they're just going to keep it for a year or two and throw it away. And that's why people keep buying phones that you can "hold wrong", phones that have decorative glass backs that double the breakage risk without providing benefits, phones whose cameras stick out because the phone is too thin, phones that have headphone jacks recessed so deeply that you need an adapter, and all the other dozens of facepalm-obvious design mistakes Apple has made in their phones over the past few years.

    48. Re:Third option by wile_e8 · · Score: 1

      If the goal of your design is to provide a thin phone made out of a material that provides a premium look and feel, but then users need to put the phone in a giant rubber case to prevent it from breaking, you failed at all the goals of your design.

    49. Re:Third option by MaWeiTao · · Score: 1

      Too late... I saw it mentioned on one of the popular morning shows today.

    50. Re:Third option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ummmm..... You do know that "piercing" refers to the hole in your body, not the jewelry that goes in it, don't you?

    51. Re:Third option by trytoguess · · Score: 1

      Yes, that's bizarre, and it sounds self-delusional.

      Well, the rationale is that some folks want to have a protector on their phone no matter what since they want to keep them in the best condition possible. For them I can kind of see more thin being an asset (the protector + phone combo is less bulky). But yea in a general sense Apple is taking the "thin is in" mindset a bit too far.

    52. Re:Third option by NormAtHome · · Score: 1

      That case is only about $17 US and I wouldn't trust a case that cheap; the Otterbox Defender case I use on my iPhone 4s was something like $35 and it's been great; the Defender for the 6 / 6 Plus is probably going to be between $60-$75 but it's well worth it to protect your $600 plus dollar phone.

    53. Re: Third option by Optic7 · · Score: 1

      How much do you want to bet that the answer is "management"?

    54. Re:Third option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they could just make the case a bit thicker. maybe make it flush with the camera lens. unless the only reason the phone sells is its 7.1 mm thick.

    55. Re:Third option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If only the case were made of an electrical insulator to prevent shorts, like aluminum.

    56. Re:Third option by Khyber · · Score: 1

      Uhh, you do know there are these things called implants, right? They cut your skin open a tiny bit, drop a titanium anchor in there, and let it heal a bit, then screw in another titanium jewelry piece.

      Still a piercing as skin was pierced.

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    57. Re:Third option by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      They gave everyone a free rubber bumper to fix the antenna problems, without admitting that there was a problem. In this case they would have to give out free cargo pants or a lanyard case to suspend the phone around the user's neck.

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    58. Re:Third option by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      In fact, bending the sword (without breaking it, and with it returning to its original shape afterwards) is a very old way to test the quality of the material. Here is some sword bending (of modern "battle ready" replicas).

    59. Re:Third option by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      Titanium is 10x more expensive than aluminum, but it's still just $8.60/lb.

      The iPhone 6+ weighs 4.55 ounces, so even if that weight were entirely titanium, it would only cost $2.44 per phone in materials. I'm pretty sure there's room in their margin to cover that.

    60. Re:Third option by exomondo · · Score: 1

      Making something both thin and rigid is disproportionately hard, no matter what material you make it out of.

      Add "flat" to that list, if it has a curve to it that adds strength. The HTC one would be far more prone to bending if it didn't have a curved back.

    61. Re:Third option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Citing a work of fiction? Those swords were cheap props.

      Go find a good katana blade that has been folded over thousands of times. They don't wobble at all.

    62. Re:Third option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would cost $2.44 per phone in materials assuming the titanium was plucked from the earth in iPhone 6 case-shape.

    63. Re:Third option by plover · · Score: 1

      Machining titanium is substantially more difficult and expensive than machining cast aluminum, so it's not quite as simple as comparing prices of raw materials. I'm also assuming the current chassis is machined cast aluminum, and could be strengthened by being replaced by Ti, but I've not taken an iPhone 6 apart to know.

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    64. Re:Third option by exomondo · · Score: 1

      Because a large portions of Americans are obese, having the iPhone in such cramped conditions under extreme pressure for extended periods of time is causing the issue.

      Not sure what the solution is but I'm sure Apple will have a fix out in no time.

      They already announced it, it's coming in 2015: The Apple Watch and HealthKit.

    65. Re:Third option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I mean, computer bags didn't get any thinner, so if you aren't taking up all the space in one, you're just wasting space that you could use for other things.

      No, if you aren't taking up all the space you have additional space that you could use for other things. If your laptop were thicker and taking up all the space you would have no room for other things.

      And if you carry it around in a backpack, is that extra quarter inch difference in thickness really going to make the difference between being able to carry around something else and not? Probably not.

      So a second ago you're worried about wasting space that you could use for other things now you're saying it makes no difference.

      Yes, the flash drive in the new machines is faster, but I'd kill to have the pre-retina MacBook Pro design back, with no optical drive, two spinning drives, and a flash stick configured as a hybrid drive cache for one of those spinning drives.

      Spinning drives are far too volatile and resource-hungry. One drop whilst they are spinning and you can easily kill them not to mention the additional power consumption of running mechanical drives. HDDs are a horrible choice in portable devices.

      Speaking of the Air, every time I see a MacBook Air, I just want to take it and snap it in half with one hand. It looks too thin to have any strength at all.

      It may look that way, but it isn't.

      I could never trust one with my important data, because I'd be too afraid that the tiny little thing would eat itself.

      What? At it's thickest point it's the same thickness as a MacBook Pro, then it tapers off. I've dropped my MBA on the tiles on its corner and that corner now has a slight dent in it, that's the great thing about an aluminium chassis.

      When products become too thin, they don't look cool; they just look flimsy.

      Until you use them and realize they aren't flimsy at all, in fact they are more rigid than their thicker plastic counterparts and they don't crack if you drop them even on the corner. They may dent a little but that's it.

      I love your products, and want to continue loving them, but you're quickly reaching the point where I'll have to choose somebody else's products simply because yours can't survive the rigors of real-world use.

      How does a thicker macbook pro survive better than a thinner one? The point at which it has a structural failure is far beyond "real world use".

      Im not saying the pursuit of "thinness" is necessarily the way to go but for the thickness of my old laptop I can now carry my MBA, my iPad and my external hard drive. And if you start to consider the weight as well you can include my DSLR body. That makes it a lot easier to carry gear and be a lot more productive.

    66. Re: Third option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The camera sticks out the back of my thin, seemingly non bending ipod touch 5th gen.

    67. Re:Third option by dmql · · Score: 1

      You should use a correct term when addressing the people. I assume you mean people living in the US of A. America is a fucking fucking continent and if you exclude the people in the USA, the obesity is not such a problem at all :)

    68. Re: Third option by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      Logically, that comment makes sense. But when dealing with product design, it's often an appeal to emotions. It's a (one of many) primary aspect of sales.

      That all said however, the weakness in the case design looks to be near or at the side volume buttons. There's just too much material removed to ensure structural integrity at load; or so it looks as much from the examples I've seen so far. Though, I don't think the protruding camera is a problem given most people will have a case over the phone; thus making the back completely flush.

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    69. Re:Third option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you have to put your phone in a case then your phone is a fail.

    70. Re:Third option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I tried Jenny Craig, but I just couldn't stop eating my daily sloppings of lard and chicken skin. That's why I'm so fa...big boned.

      -drinkypoo

    71. Re:Third option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you missed the humor in the post.

    72. Re:Third option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or, because it's so thin, you can happily put a case on it and it's still 'thin'?

    73. Re:Third option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      without admitting that there was a problem.

      Revisionist much? They never denied it, they just pointed out that it's a problem with every single smartphone ever made.

    74. Re:Third option by Smask · · Score: 1

      I've had Defender cases for my HTC Desire and my S3. The silicone part were fine on the HTC case but the rubber on the S3 case absorbs moisture too quickly and swells.

      I got a new case on warranty. When that got too flabby, I bought 2 noname replacement skins from China. One of those skins have swelled too much. So, I'm into the last skin and the last belt clip holder. Forgot to turn in the holder when replacing on warranty and I made a special car holder for Otterbox belt clip holders. When one of them breaks/swells the Otterbox is history

    75. Re:Third option by delt0r · · Score: 1

      The phone would then make a much better penetrator when thrown in anger. Could go the whole hog and use depleted uranium. Unlike tungsten, it will perform considerably worse than even aluminium for bending resistance but be even more uncomfortable in the pocket, but has superior dense penetrator performance.

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  6. The Reality Distortion Field is leaking out by enjar · · Score: 5, Funny

    Better get that checked out at the Apple Store!

    1. Re:The Reality Distortion Field is leaking out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember: It's not the phone that bends... Now swallow that damn blue pill, will you?

    2. Re:The Reality Distortion Field is leaking out by BronsCon · · Score: 1

      So you're saying the phone was already bent from the factory and the RDF was making it appear straight?

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    3. Re:The Reality Distortion Field is leaking out by KrackerJax · · Score: 1

      Try to realize the truth. There is no iPhone. Then you'll see that it is not the phone that bends, it is only yourself.

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    4. Re:The Reality Distortion Field is leaking out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. You have to be severely bent to own a iDiot phone.

  7. Not just iPhone by SternisheFan · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Other phones are prone to bending also... http://www.cultofmac.com/29740...

    Perhaps Apple had planned to have the stronger SapphireGlass for their large phones, which would have mitigated this problem. But to release a high end phone with this obvious engineering deficiency is like a smack in the face to loyal Apple consumers.

    1. Re:Not just iPhone by rezme · · Score: 5, Informative

      Other phones bend, but the issue here is that with the iphone's metal case, it doesn't bend back. Plastic, unless subjected to extreme amounts of stress, tends to return to its original shape. Aluminum not so much. The problem isn't the glass, as the phones I've seen bent have glass that is still intact (strangely enough), but rather the metal chassis that Apple has always been so proud of.

    2. Re:Not just iPhone by king+neckbeard · · Score: 2

      The claim of that article is that other metal phones are prone to bending. Perhaps the solution is to not make metal phones.

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    3. Re:Not just iPhone by Sockatume · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sapphire glass wouldn't have solved the issue - by the time it was thick enough to make an appreciable difference to the phone's mechanical performance, the screen would look pretty dim. Steel would've helped (there's a reason the iPhone 4 is made out of it) but would've increased the weight markedly (there's a reason the iPhone 6 isn't made out of it). It's a difficult engineering trade-off when you're selling what amounts to a thin aluminium sheet with a cover glass on it, and I'm honestly surprised it took so long for people to notice.

      I'm going to sit here smugly with my steel-bodied phone crammed into my jeans, safe in the knowledge that while it might make sushi of my legs if I sit wrong, it's not going to deform on me.

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    4. Re:Not just iPhone by ganjadude · · Score: 2, Funny

      you're holding it wrong

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    5. Re:Not just iPhone by OzPeter · · Score: 5, Funny

      Plastic, unless subjected to extreme amounts of stress, tends to return to its original shape. Aluminum not so much.

      That's why they should have gone with Aluminium instead.

      I know, I know .. Apple was trying to be hip and trendy in its minimalist way by leaving out what it thought was a superfluous vowel [1], but in this case it crossed the line and ended up leaving out an important structural element. This would never have happened at Microsoft, where all products have to be engineered to survive being thrown at brick walls (for the well noted use case of not meeting users expectations).

      [1] Perhaps Bono might have been better utilised for his English rather than musical skills?

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    6. Re:Not just iPhone by Dan+East · · Score: 5, Informative

      Did you even look at the URL in the OP? It shows several phones that are permanently bent - some plastic, some metal. It shows plastic phones, like the Galaxy, with a cracked display from where it was bent, plastic phones that are permanently bent (BlackBerry Q10, Oppo) as well as other phones with metal frames like the Sony Xperia Z1 and HTC EVO. It also shows various other older models of iPhones that are bent.

      No phone is immune to this, and just because it's plastic and kind of "bends back" does not mean the screen or plastic won't crack, etc.

      I'll tell you exactly what this is about. Millions of existing iPhone users now have a larger phone in their pocket, and because the previous models were smaller, they were just under the bending threshold (due to the weight of the person, size of pockets, whatever) and they didn't have a problem. Now with the larger phones there is more leverage to exert more force (plus being thinner might make them weaker as well), and suddenly the bigger phones can't handle the stresses that the smaller phones could handle. If these people were to stick a Samsung S5 in their back pocket bad things would happen too (and it just so happens that the older, smaller iPhones were tough enough to handle that).

      Is the iPhone 6 as tough as the smaller previous generations of iPhone? Almost certainly not. Is it as tough as other phones the same size like the Samsung Galaxy? Probably so.

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    7. Re:Not just iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > a smack in the face to loyal Apple consumers ...wich, we must admit, we all would like to do. Envy much?

    8. Re: Not just iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps the solution is to take off the skinny jeans...

    9. Re:Not just iPhone by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      Well every phone will do something if you treat it a certain way. The question is just how wide spread the "problem" is. In the video the guy looks like he's putting quite a lot of stress on the phone, yet others are reporting that it bent just sitting in their front pocket (unlikely). The same problem can be said about cracked screens. I keep hearing from people how fragile the screens are in various phones including the model I own. Some people say the screen cracked in their front pocket without any stress, in the meantime I abused my phone like no phone ever should be and despite dents and scratches and bits of plastic falling off the screen is still perfect.

      So the question is, is this some isolated issue from a few vocal people which got publicised (I never heard of other phones bending before this, but now people are coming out of the woodworks), or is the iPhone 6 really that much more fragile. The debate reminds me of the "you're holding it wrong scandal" where people were claiming it wasn't a real problem and that any phone's signal drops when you hold it.

      I guess time will tell.

    10. Re:Not just iPhone by SternisheFan · · Score: 1
      The sidebutton cutout area seems to be the weakest part. Sure, put enough force to any device it'll bend/break. If I was a buyer of Apple products, I'd be upset that this was released. If they didn't know this would happen, then it's incompetence on the part of their engineers. If they knew how prone it is to warping/bending and released it anyway, then it's just a big 'f-u' to customerw.

      I've read the new iPhones cost Apple $200 to make. Why wasn't it made a few millimeters thicker to compensate for the aluminum body? A larger battery life and strength should be a priority on high end devices made by Apple. Instead they went for thin chic.

      A work of tech-art, perhaps. Useful in real life, not so much.

    11. Re:Not just iPhone by Electricity+Likes+Me · · Score: 1

      I wonder if this actually explains Samsung's resistance to making a metal phone. There's been a lot of commentary of how they just don't do it with their flagships, and the bending issue is the type of thing which your engineers would tell you in testing and simulation.

      Breaking the glass is one thing, but that's always been a risk, but bending the case without damaging the glass is quite another and yeah - a ton of plastics would have much better performance then metal in this regard.

      Regardless, it seems like Apple could probably afford to fix this by adding a stiffner bar to the case somewhere - a very thin carbon fibre shim wouldn't cost too much at scale, would be basically impossible to break without taking out the glass too.

    12. Re:Not just iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol, you don't have a fucking clue what you are talking about. i keep my g3 in my front pocket, back pocket, whatever pocket is convenient and it has never had any problem. also that link that you also did not look at clearly shows bent iphone 4 and 5.

      so yeah, fuck off crapple shill.

    13. Re:Not just iPhone by OzPeter · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sorry, but your spelling is just stupid and arbitrary unless you apply the "ium" suffix to ALL elements.

      Do you mean things like: potassium, sodium, magnesium, calcium, and strontium?

      Also the spelling of "aluminum" predates the spelling of "aluminium", so the former is proper.

      The official chemical name IS Aluminium with Aluminum being an alternate spelling. But if you are being pedantic, then alumium predates both.

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    14. Re:Not just iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not quite right, you (and many others, apparently) seem to be confusing stress and strain, or at the least assuming they are related. Plastic tends to be able to withstand a large amount of strain before the onsite of plastic deformation but this varies wildly based on the particular plastic (see http://www.plasticsintl.com/sortable_materials.php?display=mechanical), while aluminum withstands about 16% elongation before failure. The tensile yield stress of plastic is also highly dependent on the particular compound but, for example for polyethylene it is about 24 MPa (Wolfram|Alpha), compared to about 55 MPa for a 6061T4 aluminum (Wikipedia).

      Stress is (roughly) the amount of load per area in a specimen, strain is the change in length (often due to an applied load) divided by the original length; these properties are independent in general. For example, think of a rubber band an piece of steel of the same dimension - when you pull on the rubber band it would clearly deform elastically, but when you pull (with the same force) on the steel much less deformation occurs (so little it may not be visually apparent). Both have the same stress (same cross section, and same area), but completely different strain.

    15. Re:Not just iPhone by gurnec · · Score: 1

      like a smack in the face to loyal Apple consumers.

      I do believe that's called an iSmack.

    16. Re:Not just iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Note3 of equal size has a flimsy plastic removable back held on with small plastic tabs, a large open battery cavity with a relatively loose fitting battery and even hole down in the structure with memory card holder and slot. The Note3 is built like an open box and the iPhone is close to a cube. That cube closed design alone should make the iPhone MANY times more rigid and stronger but yet... Man, imagine if the iphone actually had a non structural removable back and and an accessible battery cavity how weak it would be.

      You can use a car analogy and compare how rigid a convertible is to a car with a rigid roof or you can just play with a cardboard box with the top taped shut and with the top open and see the difference in its flex and strength.

    17. Re:Not just iPhone by rezme · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes, I looked at the URL. The key difference here is that the phones of other models that were reported bending were largely "I sat on it" type scenarios (including one asshole who sat on his while it was in a cupholder), while many of the reports I've seen of the iphone 6 have often been in the front pocket. Sure, there were others that said "it spontaneously bent itself" but I'm betting those are "I sat on it, but I really don't want to say that". Yes, all phones bend, and as I qualified if large amounts of stress (or strain as Captain Pedantic in another response would have it) is applied, then they will break and stay that way. My point is that plastic tends to be a more forgiving medium for that kind of abuse than aluminum (or aluminium as another pedant stated).

    18. Re:Not just iPhone by Electricity+Likes+Me · · Score: 1

      If you look at where it bends, it's pretty clear they don't even need to do that - they could probably get away with simply milling the aluminum thicker around the areas where there are cut outs for the buttons, which are acting as stress concentrators. Plug the whole thing into a simulator and tweak until those areas don't exceed the tensile strength of the region.

    19. Re:Not just iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, but your spelling is just stupid and arbitrary unless you apply the "ium" suffix to ALL elements.

      Also the spelling of "aluminum" predates the spelling of "aluminium", so the former is proper.

      Your first argument seems strange since apart from one or two elements every element that ends in "um" also ends in "ium".
      If I were to turn it around and say your spelling is just stupid and arbitrary unless you apply the "ium" suffix to ALL elements it becomes pretty clear that aluminium is less arbitrary and follows the pattern to a greater extent.
      Since the original spelling was alumium the argument of predating doesn't hold water either.

      Do you have any point that doesn't rely entirely on calling names?

    20. Re:Not just iPhone by RockClimbingFool · · Score: 1

      I have a Lumia 1520, with a 6" screen. It fits in my pocket. I can walk around, sit in my car, sit at my desk, you name it. The phone doesn't break or warp.

    21. Re:Not just iPhone by rezme · · Score: 1

      I think for most people, this is a difference without distinction. There may be differences in the engineering definition of stress vs strain, but for the average layman looking at this problem it's essentially the same thing. Either way, Apple failed to account for the stress/strain that an average user would put on the phone.

    22. Re:Not just iPhone by jitterman · · Score: 1

      Agreed. My Lumia's poly-carbonate bodies have always been a blessing in that area. Sure, not quite as "flash" but far more resilient.

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    23. Re:Not just iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suspect the aluminum is the reason why they didn't use sapphire glass - with a bendable back, the glass would crack easier.

    24. Re:Not just iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you even look at the URL in the OP? It shows several phones that are permanently bent - some plastic, some metal. It shows plastic phones, like the Galaxy, with a cracked display from where it was bent, plastic phones that are permanently bent (BlackBerry Q10, Oppo) as well as other phones with metal frames like the Sony Xperia Z1 and HTC EVO. It also shows various other older models of iPhones that are bent.

      No phone is immune to this...

      Yes, you're absolutely right. No matter how much they try and make it Idiot proof, someone will come along and build a better Idiot.

      And since you've pointed out an established history here with how well these huge phones work with today's skinny-everything fashion, Idiot just got upgraded to Fucking Moron.

    25. Re:Not just iPhone by Nemyst · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The guy who made the video linked in TFS made another video of the Note 3, which is of a similar size as the 6+, and not only did he had to push much more strongly, he didn't manage to get it bent.

      Now, that's anecdotal evidence, but your list is entirely pointless. Sure, phones will bend if you push hard enough. Tablets would too, and freaking laptops if you put your heart to it. The point here is that none of those other phones, including previous generation iPhones, have had a lot of claims of them bending. They're less likely to bend, largely due to different materials and especially different thickness. That's where I think the problem lies: stop making phones so fucking thin. Give us more battery instead or something.

    26. Re:Not just iPhone by SternisheFan · · Score: 1
      Apple released an inferior product, plain and simple. $800 for a device that gets easily bent is just unacceptable.

      It should have been thicker, or at least made of a stronger material such as (gasp!) polycarbonate plastic. Profit over reliability, I suppose. Expect to hear more about this issue as time goes by.

    27. Re:Not just iPhone by jbeaupre · · Score: 1

      Some more engineering thoughts:

      Stiffness for a solid rectangular bar is h^3*w. The 5s is 7.6 mm thick, the 6 is 6.9, the 6+ is 7.1. Ignoring width and internals, this would mean the 6 and 6+ are 75% and 82% as stiff as the 5s.

      But hold on, the length of of a beam also greatly affects the bending moment. Deflection for a cantilever beam is a cube function on length.

      Together, the 6 and 6+ will be much more flexible than the 5s.

      Stresses causing yielding will be a bit less extreme. And exact type of stress matters. But being longer and thinner is (duh) going to make it weaker.

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    28. Re:Not just iPhone by Quarters · · Score: 1

      Sapphire would not have prevented this. It would have made it worse. Sapphire is much more brittle than glass, which is actually quite flexible. With sapphire people would have bent phones with shattered screens. Luckily you'll probably never see a phone with a sapphire face:

      * It's brittle
      * It has to be milled to shape, increasing costs over glass due to manufacturing and lack of quick scalability in the manufacturing process.
      * It is less transparent than glass, so battery life will suffer due to increased screen brightness requirements to be on par with glass phones

      Apple bought that sapphire factory for the high-end apple watches. Sapphire is common on high end watches and Apple wants to hit all of the checkboxes necessary to be able to sell into that market.

    29. Re:Not just iPhone by mark-t · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The official chemical name IS Aluminium with Aluminum being an alternate spelling

      Except it's not. You are right about "alumium", however.

    30. Re:Not just iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every new iPhone absolutely positively has to be thinner than the previous one so that 20 years of apple marketing thin as the only thing that matters would be wasted. God forbid they make it 1 mm thicker, and increase the battery life 15%.

    31. Re:Not just iPhone by BronsCon · · Score: 1

      If this as much of a problem with the HTC One models? Both the M7 and the M8. I don't think it is, and they're both aluminum bodies, as well.

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    32. Re:Not just iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BS to "Is it as tough as other phones the same size like the Samsung Galaxy? Probably so."

    33. Re:Not just iPhone by SternisheFan · · Score: 1

      I'd love to see Apple put out a more rugged version of the 6/6+. Thicker, stronger, largest possible battery, and throw in an SD card/2 gigabytes of RAM on top of it all. This won't happen, of course (sigh).

    34. Re:Not just iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, you're saying it's the user's fault?

    35. Re:Not just iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Is it as tough as other phones the same size like the Samsung Galaxy? Probably so."

      No.

    36. Re:Not just iPhone by Chrisq · · Score: 4, Informative

      The official chemical name IS Aluminium with Aluminum being an alternate spelling

      Except it's not. You are right about "alumium", however.

      It is the International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry (IUPAC) standard international name, though they recognise Aluminum as an alternative.

    37. Re:Not just iPhone by blueg3 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Do you mean things like: potassium, sodium, magnesium, calcium, and strontium?

      No, things like molybdenum, tantalum, lanthanum, and platinum.

      Also hydrogen, boron, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, fluorine, neon, silicon, phosphorous, sulfur, chlorine, argon, manganese, iron, cobalt, nickel, copper, zinc, arsenic, bromine, krypton, silver, tin, iodine, xenon, gold, mercury, lead, bismuth, astatine, radon.

      In current usage and also in the Latin names for the elements, both -ium and -um are used frequently as endings for metallic elements.

    38. Re:Not just iPhone by tehcyder · · Score: 4, Funny

      Aluminium is an anagram of iAluminum. I'm sure this is important.

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    39. Re:Not just iPhone by doggo · · Score: 1

      Bah! Nonsense. Ridiculous nonsense.

      First, it doesn't cost $800, unless you get it contract free & 64GB, and that's a specific choice you make.

      Second, it doesn't get "easily bent". You can bend any phone with enough force. If you're applying the kind of force that will bend a cell phone, then you're being careless and deserve what you get.

      You're disaster hyping like Fox News.

    40. Re:Not just iPhone by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      Watch out everyone, he's got FACTS!

    41. Re:Not just iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you mean things like: potassium, sodium, magnesium, calcium, and strontium?

      Apparently you aren't aware of: antimony, argon, arsenic, astatine, bismuth, boron, bromine, carbon, chlorÂine, cobalt, copper, fluorine, gold, iodine, iron, krypton, lanthanum, lead, mangaÂnese, mercury, molybdenum, neon, nickel, nitrogen, oxygen, phosÂphorus, platinum, radon, silicon, silver, sulfur, tin, tungsten, xenon and zinc.

      The official chemical name IS Aluminium with Aluminum being an alternate spelling. But if you are being pedantic, then alumium predates both.

      The official chemical name is aluminum OR aluminium. And while YOU'RE being pedantic, nobody uses the term "alumium" and never have because it was a placeholder while "aluminum" is the first official name used in a scientific publication.

    42. Re:Not just iPhone by edremy · · Score: 1

      They also have curved backs. I had thought it was just for show, but perhaps not. I haven't managed to bend my M7 yet, and I'm not sure I could.

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    43. Re:Not just iPhone by SternisheFan · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Bah! Nonsense. Ridiculous nonsense.

      First, it doesn't cost $800, unless you get it contract free & 64GB, and that's a specific choice you make.

      Second, it doesn't get "easily bent". You can bend any phone with enough force. If you're applying the kind of force that will bend a cell phone, then you're being careless and deserve what you get.

      You're disaster hyping like Fox News.

      1) "Free" - That is the subsidized cost over a 2 year contract, which actually costs more than buying it outright.

      2) - Forcibly bending it is stupid to do. Having it in a pocket and it warps out of shape from normal body bending is just poor design. I have expectations that such an expensive device would be strong enough to endure 'normal usage'.

      3 - Fox News is well known for creating hype-stories out of nowhere that fit their own agenda, not the case here. I didn't start the fire.

    44. Re:Not just iPhone by Khyber · · Score: 1

      SapphireGlass would NOT have mitigated this problem as the structural defect is in the edges, not the broad plane.

      Note, half of the phones listed are APPLE phones.

      My ZTE score, made of the shittiest ABS on the planet, won't even fucking bend. It's 6.5mm thick. The iPhone 5S is THICKER (7.6mm) and still bends.

      Go shill elsewhere.

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    45. Re:Not just iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aluminum and Aluminium are both equal names. In this stupid debate, neither is right and neither is wrong. They are both equal and interchangeable. Except when I'm ragging on my British friends.

    46. Re:Not just iPhone by oogoliegoogolie · · Score: 1

      How dare you link to a site that shows anything other than bent iPhones....it is an affront to LEET android fanatics everywhere!

    47. Re:Not just iPhone by grumpyman · · Score: 1

      I'd have to think the design of the rounded edge vs iPhone 4/5 squared edge contributes to this weakness as well.

    48. Re:Not just iPhone by jzilla · · Score: 1

      They are loaning you the money to buy the phone and adding you monthly payment on the loan to your phone bill. You may be too stupid to understand or even realize this, but you still are paying $800 + for the phone.

    49. Re:Not just iPhone by asavage · · Score: 1

      The guy who made the video above did a followup with the Note 3. He uses more force and the phone gets almost no permanent damage. The iphone 6 and 6+ are having serious bending problems worse than other phones. In the original iphone6+ bending test video above he noticed his iphone was already slightly bent before doing the bend test and only owning for a few days.

    50. Re:Not just iPhone by ne0n · · Score: 1

      But to release a high end phone with this obvious engineering deficiency is like a smack in the face to loyal Apple consumers.

      Loyal apple customers needed a smack in the face anyway.

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    51. Re:Not just iPhone by praxis · · Score: 1

      lol, you don't have a fucking clue what you are talking about. i keep my g3 in my front pocket, back pocket, whatever pocket is convenient and it has never had any problem. also that link that you also did not look at clearly shows bent iphone 4 and 5.

      so yeah, fuck off crapple shill.

      Just because you've never had a problem with your one instance of phone does not mean that other instances of those phones do not get bent.

    52. Re:Not just iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention in most parts of the world, people buy their phones and then choose a carrier. The US is pretty much the only place that does the carrier tie-in/lock-in subsidy shit.

    53. Re:Not just iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except my Lumia 1520 with a full 6" screen and no case sits in my back pocket while sitting and hasn't cracked or broken with its plastic case.

    54. Re:Not just iPhone by Orestesx · · Score: 1

      What makes you think these users are average?

    55. Re:Not just iPhone by rezme · · Score: 1

      Not referring to the iphone users specifically, but rather the rest of us armchair engineers criticizing the design.

    56. Re:Not just iPhone by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      How about this. We'll give you the more consistent 'aluminium' if you drop 'zed' for the more consistent 'zee.'

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    57. Re:Not just iPhone by macs4all · · Score: 0

      No, things like molybdenum, tantalum, lanthanum, and platinum.

      Also hydrogen, boron, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, fluorine, neon, silicon, phosphorous, sulfur, chlorine, argon, manganese, iron, cobalt, nickel, copper, zinc, arsenic, bromine, krypton, silver, tin, iodine, xenon, gold, mercury, lead, bismuth, astatine, radon.

      In current usage and also in the Latin names for the elements, both -ium and -um are used frequently as endings for metallic elements.

      I hear a Prof. Tom Lehrer song coming on...

    58. Re:Not just iPhone by macs4all · · Score: 0

      If you look at where it bends, it's pretty clear they don't even need to do that - they could probably get away with simply milling the aluminum thicker around the areas where there are cut outs for the buttons, which are acting as stress concentrators. Plug the whole thing into a simulator and tweak until those areas don't exceed the tensile strength of the region.

      Are they milled, too, like the Unibody MacBooks; or are they simple stamped Al?

    59. Re:Not just iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Compound this with the fact that it is not a *solid* rectangle.

    60. Re:Not just iPhone by BronsCon · · Score: 1

      My M7 has been rock-freakin-solid, my best friend and my boss both have the M8 and theirs seem pretty solid as well

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    61. Re:Not just iPhone by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      "Tough as the smaller previous generations of iPhone" WTF? You familiar with the shitty, brittle, buggy iPhone 4??

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    62. Re:Not just iPhone by Solandri · · Score: 1

      From the pics I've seen, the problem looks to be the cutout for the volume rocker. The thin strips of aluminum on either side of the rocker simply aren't strong enough to withstand the bending moments in your pocket, and end up suffering plastic deformation (e.g. doesn't revert back to its original shape). It isn't a problem in plastic phones because although they bend the same amount (or more) in your pocket, plastic has a much larger region of elastic deformation and thus never gets permanently deformed.

      To fix it, they're going to have to add a reinforcing plate behind the volume rocker which extends the full thickness of the phone, with a cutout(s) for the electrical leads for the rocker.

      Stronger glass or even a stronger metal back will make it stiffer (greater moment of inertia), which would be another way of solving the problem. But that's a generalized solution which would increase the stiffness of the entire phone, when it really looks like the problem is just this small area.

      (And FWIW, I've always advocated that plastic is a better material for phones. Most metal phones end up being put in a case anyway, which defeats the whole point IMHO. Once flexible displays come down in price, it's game over for metal bodies and glass screens IMHO.)

    63. Re:Not just iPhone by suutar · · Score: 1

      Now I have Tom Lehrer stuck in my head :)

    64. Re:Not just iPhone by suutar · · Score: 1

      I 3 my belt pouch, personally :) My front pockets already have other stuff in them, and I wouldn't want to put a phone in my back pocket; I sit too much.

    65. Re:Not just iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cool story bro.
      I guess it depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is.

    66. Re:Not just iPhone by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      Jony Ive always designs using Aluminium rather than Aluminum.

    67. Re:Not just iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll tell you exactly what this is about. Millions of existing iPhone users now have a larger phone in their pocket, and because the previous models were smaller, they were just under the bending threshold (due to the weight of the person, size of pockets, whatever) and they didn't have a problem. Now with the larger phones there is more leverage to exert more force (plus being thinner might make them weaker as well), and suddenly the bigger phones can't handle the stresses that the smaller phones could handle.

      There is distinctly more to it than just being larger, the iPhone 6 is also thinner. Either of these factors individually weakens the phone, but both of them together makes a rather larger impact. Replace the thickness from the iPhone 5 in the iPhone 6 with a steel place and it will be rather unlikely to bend. It was claimed above that the iPhone 4 did have steel. Then the original metal MacBooks were titanium, which has rather greater strength than aluminum.

    68. Re:Not just iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's an attempt to bend a Galaxy Note 3, by hand, applying the same force that ruined an iPhone 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwM4ypi3at0

      If you can't be bothered watching the video, the upshot is that it flexes but springs back, and it takes a concerted effort to get any noticeable, permanent bending at all. It's easy to conclude that yes, some of the other large phones that compete directly with the iPhone 6 are considerably more resistant to bending damage.

      The Galaxy Note 3 and Galaxy S 5 are both polycarbonate, with screens made of Gorilla Glass 3, and they're both around 20% thicker than the iPhone 6. Both Galaxy models have removable back covers, and Gorilla Glass 3 is made to be more flexible than Gorilla Glass 2, so it seems that all that extra bend resistance comes from having a polycarbonate chassis with a little extra thickness.

    69. Re:Not just iPhone by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      Is it as tough as other phones the same size like the Samsung Galaxy?

      Preliminary results say no.

    70. Re:Not just iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod parent up.

      Thanks for the vid. And that, folks, proves it without any doubt that the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 is well made and iPhone 6 is garbage. In their shallow pursuit of trying to make the iPhone into a fashion accessory, Apple has eschewed all structural integrity and good engineering practices.

      I am extremely impressed with how the Galaxy Note stood up to that amount of stress, though it's probably not as durable as the LG Flex, which can handle up to 1,000lbs of pressure without damage.

    71. Re:Not just iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      stress: the physical pressure, pull, or other force exerted on one thing by another; strain.

      Source: http://dictionary.reference.co...

      They are the exact same thing. Stop trying to fabricate new meanings for words that you don't understand.

    72. Re:Not just iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My cock has been rock-freakin-solid ever since I started fucking your mother, wife, sister and daughter.

    73. Re:Not just iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you mean things like: potassium, sodium, magnesium, calcium, and strontium?

      No, things like molybdenum, tantalum, lanthanum, and platinum.

      Also hydrogen, boron, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, fluorine, neon, silicon, phosphorous, sulfur, chlorine, argon, manganese, iron, cobalt, nickel, copper, zinc, arsenic, bromine, krypton, silver, tin, iodine, xenon, gold, mercury, lead, bismuth, astatine, radon.

      In current usage and also in the Latin names for the elements, both -ium and -um are used frequently as endings for metallic elements.

      Look guys the important thing it is a neuter noun.

  8. Holding it wrong. by porksauce · · Score: 2, Funny

    They're holding it wrong obviously.

  9. Apple's response by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 1, Redundant

    "You're sitting wrong."

    1. Re:Apple's response by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Steve jobs email about "holding it wrong" was an anonymous fake sent to engaget. No one from Apple ever said that, especially not Steve jobs. Some say engaget made it up just to have first scoop.

    2. Re:Apple's response by Sockatume · · Score: 3, Informative

      "Don't hold it that way" was actually Apple's official stance. They even put up a series of videos on the Apple site showing other brands' "dead spots", which lasted about as long as you could expect in this corporate climate.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
      http://www.engadget.com/2010/0...

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      No kidding!!! What do you say at this point?
  10. "Hopefully Apple will clarify it soon." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    How about "hopefully some objective sources will analyze and post conclusions soon". Apple isn't going to be even remotely objective at all, since all we'll get from them is something like "you're putting it in your pocket wrong".

  11. If Steve Jobs was still around... by mordejai · · Score: 2, Insightful

    He would tell the users they are not supposed to put an iPhone 6 Plus in their pockets.

  12. Don't worry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just put it in your microwave for a minute and it will all be fixed!

    1. Re:Don't worry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just put it in your microwave for a minute and it will all be fixed!

      ... and fully charged too!

    2. Re:Don't worry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, that'll break your microwave. Lay it flat on an induction stove and let it simmer at medium heat for 4 minutes.

    3. Re:Don't worry by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      It's mostly aluminum with very little ferrous metals. The most that will do is melt the iron parts of the sensors and components.

      Better to just set it up on a grating and heat it vigorously from below with an oxy-acetylene torch. It still won't fix it, but it may make a satisfying popping sound from time to time.

      --
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  13. Wrong band! by greichert · · Score: 1

    Apple shouldn't have invited U2 but Keane to sing "Bend and Break"!

  14. The Incredible Bendable Phone! by Chris453 · · Score: 1

    The Reality distortion field has hit critical mass. The phone isn't bending as there is no phone, it is only yourself that is bending. Oh, that excuse didn't work? How about: Apple is the first to invent a phone that bends over backwards for the user. Imagine the possibilities!

  15. Curved Phones by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 4, Funny
    1. Re:Curved Phones by kyrsjo · · Score: 1

      But seriously, the blended edges do look a lot like my Samsung (which does not bend). Given that Apple had a case with "rectangle with rounded corners", Samsung may have a case with "thin rectangle with blended edges".

    2. Re:Curved Phones by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's a contradiction I guess. A really good design looks obvious.

      ...and a company which purports to support creativity, and feels so strongly about rounded rectangles that they introduce them as a graphic primitive on early systems (per Isaacson?), sues another company for daring to use rounded rectangles.

      I hope they get sued for infringing on Samsung's design. Samsung went out of their way to find a way to make something equally effective, distinct non-obvious but obvious looking. Now Apple seems to think their screen size and aspects of design are obvious.

  16. Am I the only one? by GeekWithAKnife · · Score: 1


    ...concerned about the angle of that guy's thumb?

    All things considered I could bend most so called smartphones these days but why would you bend your brand new phone? -some people are weird.

    --
    A 'singular oddity' is an event that cannot be explained and only happens when you are alone.
    1. Re:Am I the only one? by itzly · · Score: 1

      The publicity is probably worth more than the phone, especially if the phone is a flimsy toy.

    2. Re:Am I the only one? by synapse7 · · Score: 1

      I just tried bending my plastic S3, at this point it wouldn't hurt my feelings too much if it broke, and it is fairly stout.

    3. Re:Am I the only one? by GeekWithAKnife · · Score: 1


      Keep going until your thumb matches the angle of that guy's thumb...see how it goes.

      --
      A 'singular oddity' is an event that cannot be explained and only happens when you are alone.
    4. Re:Am I the only one? by yabos · · Score: 1

      I can bend my thumb back to a 90 degree angle with just my muscle and tendon and farther if I apply pressure with my other hand/fingers, so no. Some people like me have very flexible joints.

    5. Re:Am I the only one? by Rockoon · · Score: 1

      Keep going until your thumb matches the angle of that guy's thumb...see how it goes.

      The thumbs in the video? They are barely bent. My thumbs bend more without pressing on anything. Full 90 degrees.

      Now go collect that astroturfing check and buy a samsung.

      --
      "His name was James Damore."
  17. Re: If you sit on a phone with your big fat arse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It was reportedly in the front pocket, not the back. The phone was bent by pressure exerted on it by cloth, apparently!

  18. Headline reads... by drfishy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apple's race for thinner phones bites users in the ass.

    1. Re:Headline reads... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You didn't even read the summary, right? It says users weren't carrying the phone in the back pocket! So I don't think it's the ass what was bitten.

    2. Re:Headline reads... by sociocapitalist · · Score: 1

      Apple's race for thinner phones bites users in the ass.

      In Soviet Russia Apple Bites You

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  19. Re:If you sit on a phone with your big fat arse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ... the phone will either break or bend. Solution: Don't sit on it with your big fat arse.

    Err...

    What's even more troubling is that many of the users who are reporting bent devices also claim that they were carrying it in front pockets or in a normal fashion as opposed to sitting on it directly.

    Big fat arses not neccessary.

  20. probable reason by Champaklal · · Score: 2

    Apple's 6 phones are too bigger than their width -- this bending is caused due to the extra moment experienced by the curvature of thighs. Now, since there is no "vertical" element (if the phone is kept horizontal) to counter this moment duo, the phone bends.

  21. John Gruber's response by Sockatume · · Score: 1

    "You need looser pants."

    http://daringfireball.net/link...

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    No kidding!!! What do you say at this point?
  22. John Q by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are issues, here is mine after 4 hours of use

    http://qfactor.us/IMG_3616.mov

    1. Re:John Q by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A .mov file? Seriously? HAHAHAHAHA!

      Protip: Nobody uses that shit, upload your vid to YT.

    2. Re:John Q by Aerokii · · Score: 1

      Add the right music and you've got yourself a party right there!

      Uuntz uuntz uuntz uuntz...

    3. Re:John Q by dave420 · · Score: 1

      A .MOV file hosted on a site whose index page was written in Microsoft Word? Wow. It's like a time machine shat on my internet connection.

  23. Until we have independent testing... by pushing-robot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'll assume option '3' for the moment:

    Out of a sample size of ten million people, chances are very good that some of them will do very stupid things (and then claim they didn't).

    Mind you, I'm perfectly willing to accept that the phone has a defect in design or construction, but I've had enough experience in troubleshooting and repair to lose all trust in humanity.

    --
    How can I believe you when you tell me what I don't want to hear?
    1. Re:Until we have independent testing... by rwise2112 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'll assume option '3' for the moment:

      Out of a sample size of ten million people, chances are very good that some of them will do very stupid things (and then claim they didn't).

      Mind you, I'm perfectly willing to accept that the phone has a defect in design or construction, but I've had enough experience in troubleshooting and repair to lose all trust in humanity.

      It's going to be a big problem for them. These phones have only been out for a day or two, so what will the average Joe's phone look like after a month?

      --

      "For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert"
    2. Re:Until we have independent testing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Out of a sample size of ten million people, chances are very good that some of them will do very stupid things (and then claim they didn't)."

      It's 9:30 a.m. and that's already the smartest thing I will read or hear today. Thanks!

    3. Re:Until we have independent testing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Like a flip phone.

      You know, the phone that average Joe's can actually afford.

    4. Re:Until we have independent testing... by It+doesn't+come+easy · · Score: 1

      Turn it over to the marketing department...

      The Iphone 6 Plus, also known as "The Wave"...

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    5. Re:Until we have independent testing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IOut of a sample size of ten million people,

      There's no way Apple delivered 10 million phones by now - only a very small fraction of the phones ordered online have even been BUILT!

    6. Re:Until we have independent testing... by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 1

      Out of a sample size of ten million people, chances are very good that some of them will do very stupid things (and then claim they didn't).

      Out of a sample size of ten million people, chances are very good that some of them work at Apple.

    7. Re:Until we have independent testing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so what will the average Joe's phone look like after a month?

      different. (TM)

  24. People are simply holding it wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The revolutionary iPhone 6 Plus is designed for rich lifestyle integration. It is helpful in so many areas of life that it is really not meant to ever leave the user's hand.

    Apple just needs to do a better job communicating this directive to its followers, and once they do that, people will start using their iPhones correctly.

  25. That's weird by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess when you 3D print your new phone click the "thicker case" button. It might take a few more minutes to print out.

  26. Steve jobs: you're holding it wrong! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not apples fault. It's bad design of the human body! Apple is perfect, it's gods/evolutions fault!

    Basic rule (for men and some ladies) don't put anything bigger than your sausage in your pockets.

    Ladies already know to put the phone in their purses.

  27. My Cat B15Q do not bend. by miffo.swe · · Score: 0

    Could drive a truck over it, still wont budge. The reason i bought it was that i destroyed my Nexus 5 and im the destroyer of phones. I could chose a phone that suited me better because there are choices.

    My point is that one size do not fit all. Iphone is a series of design choices made by a committee where much of it are trade offs. As such the phone has numerous small deficiencies not because of design failure but because so many different goals are supposed to be catered by a single model instead of tons of models catering to different goals.

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  28. Hipsters... by blueshift_1 · · Score: 1

    Damn you hipsters in skinny jeans!

  29. Re: If you sit on a phone with your big fat arse by Andrewkov · · Score: 1

    Yeah, and you can always trust the users. Like when they say "it got wet", which means they dropped it in the toilet. Or "it suddenly stopped working" which means they dropped it in the parking lot and a car ran over it.

  30. Not Surprised - I bent a 5 by kannibal_klown · · Score: 2

    I managed to bend a company iPhone 5 very slightly last year; I don't know when or how. So I'm not surprised something even thinner and completely aluminum can bend.

    I have the regular iPhone 6 right now and I tend to be careful with it. I have it in a soft-case for now but I'll probably put it in a more rigid case once a nice one comes out. Supposedly people are still bending the regular 6, but nowhere near as easily as the 6 Plus.

  31. Re:If you sit on a phone with your big fat arse by miffo.swe · · Score: 1

    Not my phones. So far this has never been a problem and i have had all the Nexus devices. Only one that has bent are the Note 2 but it just snaps back to original shape. And i sat directly on it with my fat bum.

    My newest mobile wont even budge if i jump on it.

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  32. "like a smack in the face to loyal Apple consumers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See also: Batter Wife Syndrome

  33. Re:If you sit on a phone with your big fat arse by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

    Surely a big fat arse would be better? Spread the pressure around a bit. Don't sit on it with your bony arse is what the advice should be.

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  34. Re: If you sit on a phone with your big fat arse by NotDrWho · · Score: 3, Funny

    It was reportedly in the front pocket, not the back. The phone was bent by pressure exerted on it by cloth, apparently!

    Well, if they had been wearing their Apple-certified turtlenecks instead of heathen-wear, that would never have happened. Can't blame Apple for weak-faithed users.

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  35. Re: If you sit on a phone with your big fat arse by stevez67 · · Score: 2

    Yes, because people's fat beer belly's and thighs are not on the other side of the cloth, so it must be the cloth that's bending it.

  36. Re:If you sit on a phone with your big fat arse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been sitting with phones in back pockets for 20 years without any ill effects(oh, wait, a lot of time ago An antenna broke loose...Yes way back when mobile phones still had external protruding antennas).

    2 things to note:
    1) Never tried sitting with an iphone in my back pocket
    2) I like sports, tht is, practicing them, so my is isn't big nor fat...

  37. Typical Engineering mistake by Charliemopps · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So, from the video you can see it clearly bend around the volume cutouts. Then even mentions that. I suspect it was engineered to survive flexing in that direction... and then later they moved/changed where the volume cutouts would be. If those buttons were on top, this wouldn't be a problem.

    Form over function is always a loser.

    1. Re:Typical Engineering mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup, and sci-fi over physics doesn't work either. No one's colonizing the universe.

    2. Re:Typical Engineering mistake by Sockatume · · Score: 5, Interesting

      1) Why would you put the volume button on the top of the phone?
      2) Wouldn't it make more sense that it's bending around the volume cut-outs because they're a big void in the side of the phone? No matter how tough it is, if it's going to yield anywhere, it'll yield there.

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    3. Re:Typical Engineering mistake by Nemyst · · Score: 1

      1) To avoid the flexing issue?...
      2) Yes, which is why moving them to the smaller, much less likely to bend side of the phone would've solved the problem...

    4. Re:Typical Engineering mistake by sociocapitalist · · Score: 1

      So, from the video you can see it clearly bend around the volume cutouts. Then even mentions that. I suspect it was engineered to survive flexing in that direction... and then later they moved/changed where the volume cutouts would be. If those buttons were on top, this wouldn't be a problem.

      Form over function is always a loser.

      Not if it gets you laid.

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    5. Re:Typical Engineering mistake by Overzeetop · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Indeed, it's simple engineering mechanics. As you get thinner, the case gets weaker by a factor of (thickness ratio)^2. As you make it longer, the internal stresses in the metal go up by (length ratio)^2. Then, to ice the cake, there are cutouts which form stress concentrations which will be 1.5-3x the predicted strength if you don't account for the amplification due to shear flow around the opening (though I suspect there are internal bosses to mitigate this).

      The solution, of course, is not to compromise the perimeter at all and put the buttons in the center of the back of the case. But if they did that, it wouldn't be innovated enough I guess. Maybe we'll get that in the iPhone 8 and it will be innovative by then.

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    6. Re:Typical Engineering mistake by Sockatume · · Score: 1

      Wait, by top do you mean the top of the same side, or the top edge of the phone?

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    7. Re:Typical Engineering mistake by DrAugmentum · · Score: 1

      You're on the right track Having button cutouts on both sides of the case at the same location reduced the ability of the case to resist bending. However the apple logo on the back of the case is in the same plane as the buttons as well. The logo is milled into the outside of the case but a pocket is milled out in the same location on the inside of the case to allow clearance for a protrusion from the battery. The thickness of the case back in the area of the logo is VERY thin, further reducing the ability of the case to resist bending.

    8. Re:Typical Engineering mistake by Charliemopps · · Score: 1

      personally, I can think of a half of a dozen ways to solve the problem off hand. That's why I think marketing or someone messed with it after engineering got done with it.

      Buttons are external with pinholes through the phone
      Buttons work via capacitance (Think of the lights that turn on when you touch the base)
      Internal brace near the buttons
      External brace... (molded apple logo on the back near them)
      Different material for the case (Titanium?)
      No buttons! (didn't apple invent that?)

    9. Re:Typical Engineering mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1) Why would you put the volume button on the top of the phone?

      the self-evident reason: to survive flexing in that direction

    10. Re:Typical Engineering mistake by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      Agree with your point, but I think an issue here is expectations as well.

      Would you stick a laptop in your pocket and expect it to survive? Back when we had flip phones that were 3" long and 1.5" thick you could stick them in your pocket and not think twice about it (especially since the screen was not exposed to your keys/etc). Now people want to carry a 5" smartphone that is a few mm thick in a pants pocket - and we're not talking about cargo pants either.

      Just use a belt-mounted pouch and be done with it.

    11. Re:Typical Engineering mistake by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      Actually, it is a problem with engineering. The design parameters haven't changed (pocketable device), the designers have simply decided to ignore that constraint because it doesn't work with their aesthetic.

      And belt-mounted pouch...I'm nearly speechless. I gave up belt holsters when I retired my pocket protector and horn rims.

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    12. Re:Typical Engineering mistake by dave420 · · Score: 1

      Many people have kept similar-size phones in their pockets without a second thought - no bending, no breaking, no nothing.

      And as for the pouch - you have to be kidding. That's not a solution for anything, other than "I don't know how to stand out like a clichéd American office worker".

    13. Re:Typical Engineering mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Button in the center of the back of the case."

      See the current LG G3.

    14. Re:Typical Engineering mistake by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      The design parameters haven't changed (pocketable device)

      Uh, where on the iPhone specifications does it say the device is designed to be pocketable? I've never seen that on the specs for any phone I've bought. It certainly might be an expectation that you have, but I'm sure the engineers did not have that as an actual constraint or it would never have gotten through testing.

  38. Samsung should hire Uri Geller by JoeyRox · · Score: 5, Funny

    For a commercial where he bends an iPhone 6+. Now that would be funny.

  39. Funny thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a so-called "feature phone". Chosen specifically for it's size, because my previous feature phone didn't fit comfortably in my pocket. I ride my bicycle to work, which makes this extra important.

    Recently, several people have been trying to convince me to get a smart phone, and I've been telling them that I don't want a desk phone, I will consider a smart phone when it fits comfortably in my pocket. And they keep telling me that their smart phones fit just fine in their pockets.

    Now that we see all these stories about bent iPhones, Apple fans have been busy telling everybody that it's not a problem with the phone, it's simply those users being stupid for putting an iPhone in a pocket.

    1. Re:Funny thing by Silvrmane · · Score: 1

      I've got an iphone 5s. I do not have a case for it, and I carry it around, unprotected, in my left front pocket. However, I also tend to wear baggy clothes that are getting baggier by the day as I continue to lose weight. Anyway - that phone looks like it is brand new, except for a small nick in the metal case on one side where I accidentally dropped the phone from quite a height onto a hard surface. No scratches on the glass, no bends in the case. I have no desire for an iPhone 6 Plus - those things are ridiculously long. But I'm just saying - as a smartphone user, this phone fits in my pocket, unnoticed most of the time. There's no need to wrap a bulky case around it. You'll be fine.

  40. Is this really surprising by DrXym · · Score: 1

    Aluminium is a terrible material to make a phone from and I bet Apple have milled it to within an inch of its life. Maybe it doesn't matter so much for a smaller device but these phablets are so big that they are going to suffer increased leverage and bend forces. Perhaps it would have been better to use plastic over a steel frame like most other phones. It might not look so good but it would probably be stiffer and more resistant.

    1. Re:Is this really surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've dealt with several computers that no longer have side panels? Why? Cause of those aluminum cases that's why. You take that side panel off, and its so flimsy it will wobble if you only hold one end. Those bastards deform if you look at them wrong, never mind actually putting pressure on them.

      So if we've had these feeble computer side panels for like 20 years, how did somebody at apple not clue in that making their phone bigger would lower structural integrity?

  41. Who in the heck puts a $700 phone in their pocket? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is plain stupid. Get a case and a clip! Geez!

  42. yeah sure... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They said the exatcly same thing about iphon 5, and I have never had any trouble (incluiding using it on the back pocket or whatever).

  43. good luck with that by slashmydots · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Hopefully Apple will clarify it soon."
    Oh you cannot be serious. Who wrote that? They haven't admitted anything EVER when it comes to defects. You're holding the antenna wrong. You're lighting the camera wrong. You're downloading iOS7 wrong. You're driving down an airport runway because we said it was a road wrong.
    This is such a classic example of Apple's new style of function design style, which actually isn't all that new. Remember the 1980's Apple that overheated constantly because Steve Jobs didn't like fans? Remember the 2008 Apple that overheated constantly because Steve Jobs didn't like fans?

    1. Re:good luck with that by ArcadeMan · · Score: 4, Funny

      Steve Jobs didn't hate fans at all, without them he would never have been able to sell so many products.

    2. Re:good luck with that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember the 2010 Macbook Pros GPU failures, and the lawsuit and the legal settlement?
      Remember the 2011 Macbook Pros GPU failures, which Apple continues to ignore?
      http://action.mbp2011.com until their warranties run out

    3. Re:good luck with that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The way it works is Apple applies the Jedi Mind Trick (tm) to it's fans, and it works 100% of the time every time.

    4. Re:good luck with that by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      Perhaps the GP meant 2000. (The Cube and the early iMacs were fanless.)

      Or perhaps the GP meant that (by default) the first MacBook Air's fans ran too slowly to keep the machine from overheating and throttling the CPU when under significant load.

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    5. Re:good luck with that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Steve Jobs didn't hate fans at all, without them he would never have been able to sell so many products.

      i know this was a joke, but it was clear steve only hated those who didn't buy/buy-in.

    6. Re:good luck with that by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Steve Jobs didn't hate fans at all, without them he would never have been able to sell so many products.

      This, Steve Jobs hated anyone who disagreed with him, or did things better than him.

      He loved sycophants, it's competition he couldn't abide.

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    7. Re:good luck with that by sootman · · Score: 1

      > They haven't admitted anything EVER when it comes to defects.

      Um...

      And that's just a partial list, referring to recent products. That page has been around a while.

      Not saying they're perfect -- not by any stretch of the imagination -- but it's sure not "never."

      Also, they fired people (leads) over Maps and the antenna.

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    8. Re:good luck with that by slashmydots · · Score: 1

      The 27 inch imac with passive ventilation. Some macfag douchetard in my college's IT dept insisted on making the teacher's console an imac (in our .NET programming class!!!!!) and it overheated about twice per class period because it was about 80 degrees in the lab.

  44. Time will tell... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    Right now this may just be some random blog from someone careless that has been over publicised. As others have pointed out there are photos of other phones which have bent too, but it's hardly a widely reported problem.

    Now it could very well be that the iPhone 6 has a design flaw, and we could see Tim Cook attempt to revive the reality distortion field of yesteryears by jumping up on stage and bending a Samsung and saying "see all phones do this" (see the you're holding it wrong debacle).

    Or it could be nothing.

    Time will tell.

    1. Re:Time will tell... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Timmy: But mom! the other kids do it too! why can't I???

  45. Steve Jobs is dead... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...but his reality distortion field lives on.

  46. front pocket? by Pumpkin+Tuna · · Score: 1

    The more important question is how the hell are people getting that in their front pocket? What kind of pants are you people wearing?

    1. Re:front pocket? by Thanshin · · Score: 2

      Your pants have no front pockets?

      Are you in a prison, mental facility or beach?

    2. Re:front pocket? by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      Presumably, the kind of pants with pockets at least as big as an iPhone 6+.

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    3. Re:front pocket? by itzly · · Score: 1

      I have regular jeans from a standard brand, and I can easily fit a 7" tablet in the front pocket. Have to take it out when I sit down, though.

    4. Re:front pocket? by trytoguess · · Score: 1

      Many clothes for women also have no front pockets. But then since this IS slashdot, the choices you listed are probably more likely.

    5. Re:front pocket? by Arkh89 · · Score: 1

      As a physicist would tell you : assuming the average person can be replaced by a sphere of 1m radius, the phone, being in the front pocket of the hemispherical pants will bend to their surface, a flex of about 12mm on the side (parabolic approximation of the cap of spherical people, considering a 151.8mm long IPhone 6 Plus).

    6. Re:front pocket? by Wookact · · Score: 1

      Pretty much anything that will fit an adult and isn't in the "Skinny jean" category.

  47. Think Bent? by Thud457 · · Score: 2

    Apple : Get Bent

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    1. Re:Think Bent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So ah, why would anybody think you represented the Joint Chiefs of Staff or for any reason believe you had any connection to them? Are you some kind of low level assistant to them?

    2. Re:Think Bent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who said that anyone would think that the user is connected to them? That doesn't have any impact on the truth or falsehood of Thud457's statement.

      the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinions of Chancellor Angela Merkel, nor those of the rest of the government of the Federal Republic of Germany.

  48. Re: If you sit on a phone with your big fat arse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    weight of half a person vs tension in cloth

  49. Will it bend? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is the question.

  50. High school physics by Thanshin · · Score: 1

    Had they remembered their high school physics, they'd have known that the ideal phone would be homogeneous, friction-less and spherical.

  51. An apple fanboy's response by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's the users fault! The Iphone 6 is meant to be adored from afar, and is not designed to be placed into your pocket. Putting an Iphone in pair of jeans worn so tight that it makes you look like George Michael is abuse and will not rightfully not be covered by apple care.

  52. More Proof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So far I have seen like 50 websites reporting this. They all use the same video of a guy sitting there bending his phone. Then they mention "some users" without any proof. Not saying that there isn't a problem but OH MY how fast this has been hopped on.

  53. back pocket by johnrpenner · · Score: 1

    make something as thin as possible, and then users stick it in their back pocket, sit on it, and wonder why it bends.. :-p

  54. Re:it's a sensitive electronic instrument by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, because iphones are definitely not meant for pockets. We need an apple designed 200 dollar pelican case and lug it around like 1980's bag phone. How retro!

  55. Proof by gregsmac · · Score: 1

    I have seen like 50 + websites reporting this. They all seem to have the same video. Guy sitting at his desk bending his phone. Then they state "some users report" without and data or evidence. Not saying that there is not a problem but OH MY how this has been jumped on.

    1. Re:Proof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > but OH MY how this has been jumped on.

      It's gay bashing is what it is. Why can't they leave us homosexuals alone to enjoy our fashions and our technology favorites such as Apple, which yes, does favor style over substance, but who doesn't want to look good? I wish they would just leave us alone.

    2. Re:Proof by Straif · · Score: 1

      There are several pictures of bent iphones just there for the Googling.

      The reason the same video is used is because it's very hard to find someone who isn't running a tech blog/Youtube channel to bend there $800 brand new phone on purpose and it's mostly pointless to make a video of a bent phone after the bend is discovered, hence the need to Google for photos.

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  56. Skinny Jeans by CodeArtisan · · Score: 4, Funny

    It only bends in the front pocket of hipsters' skinny jeans. So pretty much 100% of users, then.

  57. New Market for Rigid Cases? by Koreantoast · · Score: 1

    New incentive to buy rigid cases. Time to go buy Otterbox stock!

  58. Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They SAT on it.

  59. Common sense maybe? by Java+Pimp · · Score: 1

    Seriously, I learned this the hard way when I used to put my pencil in my front pocket walking between classes and forgetting to take it out before I sat down. You don't put things that don't bend in your pocket on the one place on your body that does bend with the most force. Bananas? ok. sausages? sure. Fish? unfrozen. Pencils and high tech gadgets? NO!

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  60. This is where you dig up / unfreeze steve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Why ARE YOU F'ING BENDING IT"

    That would be the press release. I'd tip my hat.

  61. Ergonomics in action? by Rambo+Tribble · · Score: 1

    "It automatically conforms to your body contours."

    Or is it quality-control inaction?

  62. Don't put tablets in your pockets. by wisnoskij · · Score: 1

    Obviously do not put thin sensitive material in your pockets. It would not matter if was made of solid steel, something that thin and high is going to be quite easy to bend.

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  63. Rigidity by Grizzley9 · · Score: 1

    Phones aren't meant to be indestructible. Millions are easily getting along without bending them. If you need extra protection from your carelessness, put it in a heavy duty case. From the videos I've seen of people bending them, it takes quite a bit of force.

    That being said, as an iPhone 6 owner, I don't want my next phone to be any thinner unless they invent some case and glass where it is flexible.

  64. Re:If you sit on a phone with your big fat arse by mlts · · Score: 1

    The last time I've had a device break in a pocket was a Franklin REX (which was a PCMCIA shaped PDA) back in the 1990s. Every other phone and PDA I've had never even had an issue with bending, and some devices have definitely gotten the "bum rush". I do tend to keep a fairly heavy duty case on them when possible, which might mitigate some things.

    I am guessing Apple wanted to keep ahead in the CPU and battery race, made their devices bigger for more surface area for dispersing heat and a bigger battery... but not everyone wants a phablet. For me, the iPhone 4's screen was good enough and the 5/5S is OK. Any bigger, and one might as well just go for a 7 inch tablet.

  65. So what? by p51d007 · · Score: 0

    I bet if you put any 6" screen device in your pocket and sit down, it will either bend or crack. I've had 3 phablets. Dell Streak5, Note1 & now a Huawei Ascend Mate2. I have always carried them on a pouch belt case because they are safer inside a padded case & easier to extract.

    1. Re:So what? by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      LG G3; front pocket 4-12 hours a day and she's absolutely pristine. Maybe if Apple hadn't made the 6 so fucking long, or weakened the case with side buttons, or insisted on a (fairly) rigid material with poor toughness this wound't be an issue. But it's damned pretty when it's all fresh and new!

        (I'd argue cyclic loading/fatigue, since Aluminum is *very* poor in such conditions, but nobody has had a 6 long enough to induce a fatigue crack).

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  67. Other phones by phorm · · Score: 1

    And yet I've had two of those phones and I've never experienced anything close to the bending issue. Neither has anyone I know (Blackberries and S4's are pretty prevalent through my friends and co-workers), nor have I seen any news about it.

    1. Re:Other phones by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      And yet I've had two of those phones and I've never experienced anything close to the bending issue. Neither has anyone I know (Blackberries and S4's are pretty prevalent through my friends and co-workers), nor have I seen any news about it.

      Exactly. We only have discussion threads with hundreds of posts discussing the issue of those phones bending, and no news reports for any but the Apple phones. It looks like we found the true difference after all.

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  68. linkbait by Imazalil · · Score: 1

    How else will everyone make money if not through Apple link-bait articles. Just think of how much money is going to be made only by the "your're holding/storing it wrong" comments.

    It might be even be enough to fix ./ Beta.

  69. Re:If you sit on a phone with your big fat arse by tsa · · Score: 1

    Show us a movie of you jumping on it! :)

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  70. Ha hah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You fucking faggots. "Look how THIN this is, Bruce!"

    Ha hah, you bone smuggling pirate smoking knob gobblers!

  71. History disagrees ... see original iphone screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-jobs-new-iphone-screen-2012-1

    When Steve Jobs was around, he actually used the iphone day-to-day before it shipped to make sure it would meet user needs. When carrying it in a pocket left its screen annoyingly scratched, he bitched out the product development team and made them find an entirely new material for the screen just scant weeks before the product launch.

    Bet the new CEO didn't carry an iphone 6 day in and day out for weeks during its development to see how well the design would face the real world. And if he had, there's no way a supply-chain guru would call for a major redesign to the product just weeks before planned launch day.

  72. Here's a thought... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't put a $600 piece glass in your pocket, sit down, and then complain when it breaks.

    1. Re:Here's a thought... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except if you are a faggot. But that is redundant.

  73. why the obsession with thin? by Wycliffe · · Score: 1

    Why is apple so obsessed with thin? If apple doubled the thickness it would still be a rather thin phone.
    It could then double the battery life, make it waterproof, beef up the shock protection and have room for
    a better camera. As has been noted, the current iphone is so thin that the camera sticks out. At least
    make it that thick. Heck, it might even be able to add an option for a keyboard. I don't see anyone
    saying that their iphone is too thick but I do know alot of people who would like a smartphone with
    a longer battery life so why would apple make a phone even thinner instead of using that extra space
    for a larger battery and other features that people actually want and are willing to pay for?

    1. Re:why the obsession with thin? by TheDarkMaster · · Score: 1

      I said the same thing in an earlier topic, and one iFan responded by saying that ultrathin is proof of competence in engineering from Apple. Of course he did not understand when I said that a good engineer would have realized the problems that an ultrathin chassi would cause to the phone.

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    2. Re:why the obsession with thin? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is apple so obsessed with thin?

      Because idiots at Apple are allowed to make design decisions
      which put appearance ahead of durability or practicality.

      I own an iPhone, but I must admit I rather enjoy seeing that tool
      Timmy Cook presiding over one fuckup after another, because I
      don't like Tim Cook and I will never buy another Apple product as
      long as Cook is in charge.

    3. Re:why the obsession with thin? by plover · · Score: 1

      This.

      I want a phone that doesn't require me to carry a rechargeable battery in my backpack so I will be sure to have enough juice for the train ride home. And I don't want a walrus-sized case with integrated battery, because that stupidly adds four extra layers of thickness I wouldn't need if a thicker battery was simply built into the original device.

      Alternately, I wouldn't mind a replaceable battery. I used to swap batteries in my RAZR, and had spare batteries and chargers at both work and home. Never had a power problem they couldn't solve. And way, way long ago, Nokia and Motorola phone batteries served as the back of the phone, allowing us to buy a battery as thick or thin as we chose. Had Apple gone that route with the iPhones and had a problem like this, they could simply swap battery-backs for ones that had more stiffness.

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    4. Re:why the obsession with thin? by plover · · Score: 1

      one iFan responded by saying that ultrathin is proof of competence in engineering from Apple.

      I think ultrathin has indeed proven the engineering capabilities of Apple.

      If nothing else, it's proof that if you let marketing drive engineering, you'll produce everything with the quality you would expect from such an effort.

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      John
    5. Re:why the obsession with thin? by TheDarkMaster · · Score: 1

      What? Dude, you are mad, dumb or on drugs? Why do you think engineers do not build "ultrathin" bridges, even if they can do them? Because is nonsense! A clear proof that one should not do certain things is exactly the iPhone6 warping with any lateral force, it simply became too thin to have the structural strength required! You never seen before a thin object made of aluminum? Never saw how easy is to fold it and how the object retains the new shape after you stop applying force?

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    6. Re:why the obsession with thin? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because the iPhone is THE gay phone. Duh.

    7. Re:why the obsession with thin? by plover · · Score: 1

      You missed my point: I claimed only that their capabilities were proven - I didn't feel the need to say that it was evidenced by crappy phones that bend, and have a battery life of about half a day.

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    8. Re:why the obsession with thin? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      chassis.

  74. It's not high end by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think "high end" is the mistake part. Over a year ago, I bought a 7" tablet for less than a hundred bucks, but it was still bigger than the iPhone 6+. I'm not putting the iPhone 6+ down but please, a little perspective. It's just a scaled down tablet with an extra networking interface.

    FWIW I trashed that tablet within 4 months. It was an overall good machine, the only major over-the-top shocking defect being that it took a special charger rather than USB, but Apple's phablet has that has same design error. For a $69 machine, though, that's acce-- well, no, it's unacceptable, which is why nobody in their right mind ever gets fooled twice.

    But anyway, it was a good machine but the physical wear and abuse it took in my pocket and through my habits, was brutal and I eventually cracked the screen. Those forces are the nature of a pocket (or at least on a guy like me) and the larger something is, the more is matters.

    Eventually I realized that the ideal (well, not ideal, but optimal-given-today's-tech) super-portable machine is less than 7". Not because I don't like using larger ones (I do) but because it's hard to make 'em tough enough for serious portability.

    Looks like Apple has further narrowed down the range to being less than 6". But let's remember there's also some incompetence on their part too: their computers really do look absurdly thin. They could have easily put an extra ten bucks into making it thicker, so the "walls" would be stiffer, and also resulting in more battery space (ok so call it $20 by the time you add the second battery).

    So Apple's probably made a good machine for people who don't carry it with 'em all the time (might be nice for the bedside), but in terms of case design they're where the cheap Chinese allwinner machines were, a while back. The iPhone 7+ might be a great machine if they learn the same lessons all the other companies did. (Make it thicker and stronger, and fix the nonstandard charger thing.)

  75. Thin is in. by Streetlight · · Score: 1

    Wonderful. The phone will adjust to fit its contanier, i.e., your body wear. Right now, I'm watching CNBC and they're showing the bending of the new iPhone. One idiot is saying this is by design because it can fit in your variously shaped cargo pants pockets. It's a real advantage for the larger iPhone 6 plus which needs to bend and is easier to bend because of its length.

    Good grief. Apple fans in this case are crazy.

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  76. Too late ... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

    No, I would bet that the lawyers are advising them to silently let this go forever, hoping the bending problem doesn't catch on in the mainstream media, or picked up by the late night comedians. They'll wait for it to blow over like they did with the antenna problems on the iPhone 4, because ultimately that proved to be nothing to them.

    Less than 2 hours after your post, Whoopie Goldberg and co (on The View) are making fun of the bending issue - "what if it were a vibrator, or a combo iPhone/iVibrator?"

    Comparing your latest and greatest to a dildo on (inter) national TV ... and that's only the start.

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    1. Re:Too late ... by krakelohm · · Score: 2

      If there is anyone who I not want to talk about vibrators it's Whoopie and her crew.

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  77. Warping by fisted · · Score: 1

    Am I the only one who thought this was about a software vulnerability? Warping. War-Ping. Ping of Death style.
    I want my good old times back.

    Now get off my lawn.

  78. Will it blend got competition by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

    All those "Will it blend?" videos from blendtec mixie company CEO... Now they got stiff (ahem, pun) competition from "will it bend" videos.

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  79. I don't understand the need for thin phones... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why? Is carrying a few extra ounces around with you REALLY that hard to do? My Droid4 is 12.7mm (.5 inches) thick, has an awesome slide-out keyboard, and the best feature of all.... it does not bend.

  80. but, will it blend? by jessepdx · · Score: 1
  81. The ultimate irony - hipsters with holsters by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

    The return of the phone holster will be next years hot accessory. The iPhone 4 made bumpers cool, now they're going to bring back the day of the belt-mounted phone clip.

    Please excuse me while I go throw up.

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  82. Why are they obsessed with thin? by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

    Zaphod: Hey... So , ten out of ten for style, but minus several million for good thinking, huh?

  83. Yes, the new iPhone can be bent by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

    On the other hand, it's so thin that you can now slice tomatoes* with it!

    * iOS 8.0.4 required

    1. Re:Yes, the new iPhone can be bent by ZipK · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, it's so thin that you can now slice tomatoes with it!

      And if you order today, we'll DOUBLE the number of iPhone 6's we'll send you.*

      * S&H extra

  84. Re: If you sit on a phone with your big fat arse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is getting wet a problem for a modern phone? Aren't they all IP certified since Sony started doing that years ago?

  85. Ahahahahaha! Reality hits iPhone, iPhone bends... by gweihir · · Score: 0

    That is what happens if design ignores physics. Not that this is the first time Apple failed in that way. I guess the iPhone users have it coming.

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  86. Re: If you sit on a phone with your big fat arse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you work in an Apple store or does the Kool Aid get shipped to your home?

  87. Re:Who in the heck puts a $700 phone in their pock by Wookact · · Score: 1

    I put my GS4 in my pocket with no case and I have never had any issues with that.

  88. Re: If you sit on a phone with your big fat arse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, you need two points of force to bend something. And without the cloth, you'd just have pressure from the back. The cloth must be a contributing factor.

    Now, to be fair, they were probably jeans, and a good pair of jeans are quite strong.

  89. The unbending powers of a gravity vortex by ZipK · · Score: 1

    Amazingly, if you carry your bent iPhone 6 into The Oregon Vortex or The Mystery Spot, it will appear to straighten out.

  90. Re: If you sit on a phone with your big fat arse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Besides pockets, what is the "normal method" of carrying a phone?

  91. Is this one of Steve's designs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know, the ones he had in the pipeline before he died. You won't get the "you are ???????ing it wrong" response this time, though.

  92. What this says about Apple : by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First, I do buy products from Apple, but I am not a fanboy so
    I tend to be realistic in my assessment of Apple products rather
    than ignoring obvious flaws ( for example, when Apple took away local
    sync in iTunes, that was an inexcusable thing to do ).

    Since Jobs departed, I have noticed an increasing trend of Apple
    introducing products which CLEARLY have not been tested for
    flaws or design problems.

    This phone bending is the latest example of products being released
    without adequate testing.

    There are also a lot of flaws in the current version of OS X, and the same goes
    for iOS 8. I doubt I need to go into detail on how badly iTunes sucks these days,
    because that will be obvious to anyone who uses iTunes.

    The bottom line as I see it is that no one at Apple is paying attention to the details
    that matter to real-world users. Sure, Tim Cook might be smiling now, but wait
    a few years and see how things are.

    Apple is headed for a cliff, and Tim Cook is driving the bus.

  93. iPhone ends the Skinny Jeans Reign of terror! by netsavior · · Score: 1

    And the masses burned their skinny jeans in protest, ballsacks and knees everywhere rejoiced.

  94. Re: If you sit on a phone with your big fat arse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's an iPhone so up the rectum.

  95. Phatgate 2014 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the year 2014, weight-challenged fanboys and fangirls would sit on their plus sized cellular phones made by Apple and they would bend to the curvature of their buttocks.

    (build the story :) )

  96. Apple *will* clarify soon. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Their clarification is that it will be fixed on the iPhone 7.

  97. Phatgate 2014 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Deep within the skunkworks of Apple a conspiracy was starting to form. These plus sized phones were not made out of aluminum as specified but a more malleable british metal called aluminium (al-loo-MIN-ee-um). The question is how much did Britian pay underaged China workers to use the metal with the additional 'i' in the name and make it appear like an honest mistake

  98. Both spellings are fine by sjbe · · Score: 1

    The official chemical name IS Aluminium with Aluminum being an alternate spelling.

    Demonstrably not true.

  99. Re: If you sit on a phone with your big fat arse by DeputySpade · · Score: 1

    Going to get all crazy here, but maybe... In a purse?

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  100. Think different? More like "Get bent." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're carrying it wrong!

  101. Sigh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're bending it too high, but no worries Apple sells Bender Bending Rodriguez kits that will do it correctly and rob you blind at the same time.

    Captcha: Rebates
    Well played captcha system.

  102. Doesn't matter by wannabgeek · · Score: 1

    It doesn't hurt iPhone sales, at least not by much. People will adapt to it - by putting a hard case or whatever else required. You must remember that more than half of iPhone buyers are not buying because they objectively evaluated it and judged it to be the best phone they can have. They buy it because it is THE thing to have. So what if it has problems, as long as there is a solution (may be even better if Apple makes an expensive, really expensive) case, it will become even more aspirational. "I'm soo rich I can afford not just the phone, but also this case"!

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  103. Apple to Iphone 6 users: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "That's the wrong pocket!"

  104. Engineering Lesson Stress vs Strain by trout007 · · Score: 1

    I'd like to explain stress vs strain. Stress is related to force while strain is related to displacement. No matter what thin phone you are putting in your pocket the phone will conform to your body. Strength isn't the real issue. The issue is yield strain. This is how far you can bend something before it yields (permanently deforms). Aluminum while stronger (can take more force) than almost all plastics cannot bend as far without yielding. Aluminum yield strain will be around 0.4% while plastics like polycarbonate will be more like 2.6%. Effectively this means you can bend a piece of polycarbonate about 6.5 times as far as piece of aluminum before it permanently bends. Yes it will take quite a bit more force to permanently bend an aluminum phone than a plastic one but that force is small enough that it will not be the limit. The shape your body and pocket form is going to force the phone to that shape.

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  105. Re: If you sit on a phone with your big fat arse by plover · · Score: 2

    Ordinary cotton denim is plenty strong enough to do this. Testing a much smaller sample than a pants leg (two 1" square gripping pads separated by 3" of fabric) showed that ordinary denim can withstand over 800 Newtons (176 pounds) before breaking. http://www.itc.polyu.edu.hk/Us... A piece of fabric the size of a phone, being pulled on by the force of the leg, is going to be able to easily transfer the weight of a human into a force that can pull the phone around their leg. Given the video showed a guy bending a phone by pressing with his thumbs, a pants leg could easily apply as much force.

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  106. Not just iPhone by sl3xd · · Score: 1

    I'm convinced the 'SapphireGlass' display 'leaks' were iPhone-6 sized prototypes for the tempered glass screen protectors sold by a variety of manufacturers, for pretty much every model of smartphone.

    Zagg, for instance boasts theirs has a hardness of 9H, which is in the same range as Sapphire.

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  107. good luck with that by sl3xd · · Score: 1

    Remember the 2008 Apple that overheated constantly because Steve Jobs didn't like fans?

    Actually, no...

    Which model is that? The Macbook Air came out around that time, but it has fans.

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  108. Not just iPhone by sl3xd · · Score: 1

    Scratch that - 9H is the pencil hardness scale:

    (reference: https://iloome.wordpress.com/t...)

    9H is hard enough to resist keys & knives, though.

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  109. good luck with that by kharbour · · Score: 1

    They haven't admitted anything EVER when it comes to defects.

    True hardware wise. They did at least 'fess up to the Maps fiasco, as at least this guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S... no doubt remembers...

  110. Like ALL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    (Cr)apple products, the iPhone 6 is vastly overpriced, extremely cheaply made JUNK!!

  111. They're not really bent... by richrz · · Score: 1

    It's the expected behavior of looking through the Apple reality distortion field.

  112. It has Warp Drive 6 ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was the problem with specs.

  113. Monorail by sexconker · · Score: 1

    Well, sir, there's nothing on Earth
    Like a genuine, bona-fide
    Electrified, six-inch iPhone 6 Plus.
    What'd I say?

    iPhone 6 Plus!
    What's it called?
    iPhone 6 Plus!
    That's right! iPhone 6 Plus!

    iPhone 6 Plus.
    iPhone 6 Plus.
    iPhone 6 Plus.

    I saw those leaks they had me wowed.
    We've made some changes to iCloud.
    Is there a chance the phone could bend?
    Not on your life, my hipster friend.

    What about us brain-dead slobs?
    You'll just worship Mr. Jobs.
    What's the point of that huge bezel?
    Just more space for fans to revel.

    16 gigs is too little space.
    Pay the upcharge to keep pace.
    I swear this phone's your only choice,
    Throw up your hands and raise your voice.

    iPhone 6 Plus!
    What's it called?
    iPhone 6 Plus!
    Once again.
    iPhone 6 Plus!

    But iOS is still shitty and broken.
    Sorry, Slashdot, the mob has spoken.

    iPhone 6 Plus!
    iPhone 6 Plus!
    iPhone 6 Plus!
    iPhone 6 Plus!

    iPho, d'oh!

  114. I told you no big phones! by kencurry · · Score: 1

    Shit, I'm dead only a year or two and then this crap - seriously?

    Yours Posthumously,
    Steve Jobs

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  115. Samsung Solution by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    Build a phone so big no pocket can hope to contain. Problem solved.

    1. Re:Samsung Solution by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      Uh, you do realize that the 6+ is about as big as any Android "phone" there is? If you want to get beyond phones then I think Apple came out with their totally-inconvenient-because-it-is-unpocketable iPad quite a while ago.

  116. I've seen the photos by ihtoit · · Score: 1

    the phones are bending around the cutouts for the side buttons - a clear indication of structural weakness from the off. Aluminium alloy is not meant for such thin devices.

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  117. Wesley's simple solution by Anomalyst · · Score: 1

    Wesleys's simple solution (try saying that 10 times fast)
    invert the photon charge of the deflector array... AGAIN

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  118. Apple's "form over function" strikes again by Optic7 · · Score: 1

    Seriously. They prioritize form over function in many of their design decisions: thin aluminum cases that scratch and dent (and now frames that bend), chiclet keyboards with no tactile feedback for centering your fingertips, ultrasharp edges on laptop wrist-rest area that cuts into your wrist, glossy screens that have tons of glare, non-user-replaceable batteries that require you to send the device for service unnecessarily, etc.

  119. Warranty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm gonna guess this isn't covered under the warranty...

  120. Happens More Often on Iphones... by Stormy+Dragon · · Score: 1

    ...because Android users don't all wear hipster skinny jeans.

  121. iPhone 6 Plus: Ring Ring Ring Ring Ring by CanEHdian · · Score: 1

    ...Bananaphone!

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    1. Re:iPhone 6 Plus: Ring Ring Ring Ring Ring by hxnwix · · Score: 1

      *crunch*

  122. how convenient by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i'm always telling apple fanboys to get bent.

  123. Third option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ahh yes, the old "the users are wrong" problem. I should have known that would be the underlying cause of all this.

  124. Real phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    have curves

  125. Perhaps update to 8.0.1??? by chasm22 · · Score: 1

    Oh, my bad. I guess that was just another small mistake. Well then, I guess we'll just have to wait for the 'real' fix. You know, that thing that other manufacturers refer to as a finished product. Apple applies a different standard. I believe it's referred to as the Apple experience. That's the experience you get from Apple announcing the product to the tech writers swooning over the product to the frenzy of idiots buying the product. Of course Slashdot never falls for it. Slashdot doesn't know swoon

  126. iMatrix by mm4 · · Score: 1

    "Do not try to bend the phone — that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth: there is no phone."