I have personally bought one Linux machine at Frys, little Linspire box, 2800 Semptron, ~$200. (The article indicated that Frys DOESN'T sell Linux boxes. They do, even though they are bottom of the barrel machines) Runs great in any case. (The Linspire install lasted about 30 minutes just to try it out tho, Mandrake runs perfectly on it)
Not really on-topic, but Mandriva 2006 ftp install worked great.
MythTv from THACs works great as well, BUT you need the kernel from 2005LE (std or 2.6.8-11mm) if you are using IVTV. Patching it for Kat is required if you want to play with it (inotify support)
Aside from that, I feel the articles were a little to "tin foil hat" ish, but very likely on target. (aside from the silly fellow who didn't borrow his buddies install discs for 10, at least to try them)
A Knoppix CD is a WONDERFUL tool to go shopping with for Linux compatible hardware...
And IIRC ALL the major distros have a HCL, SUSE, RH, Mandriva etc. It's really not hard.
Or ban the ability for "no-persons" (AKA Corporations) to contribute at ALL. In ANY way. That would put their "influence" back to the traditional bribery and graft scenario;-)
"by Sycraft-fu (314770) Alter Relationship on Thursday October 13, @06:34PM (#13786123) However, what I would advocate is that the US should setup our own system. We would build our own root service."
Funny, I though the US already DID, and it's called.. The Internet.
The other morons want to set up THEIR own systems, so they can play by their own rules. More power to them, IMHO. I'll miss them,/sniff
I will never willingly watch TV without a DVR again, once you try it, "normal" TV viewing becomes a PITA.(whattayoumean I can't hit "pause"?)
I've been running MythTV on my "main" desktop box 24/7 since ~v.13.
(Now on Mandrake 10.2, probably until 2006 releases next week) Even with SW encoding, it worked fine for "normal" things. The hardware cards (Hauppage/M179s) have virtually zero system overhead.
I have run up to 4 TV cards in it, 3 M179s (HW) and a BTTV based one (software compression) with no issues a few moments of googling haven't resolved. I eventually found that 2 was really enough... (But there is still no such thing as a "big enough harddrive")
(The BTTV card and the third M179 went into other systems for family members)
FWIW, I feel the BTTV card/sw xvid encoding had the best quality output by a small margin. YMMV.
For an absolutely no-brains required install, DL the latest Knoppmyth, stuff your TV cards in a generic box with a (large) blank HD, and boot, answer ~4 questions, give it your zap2it info, and you are basically done.
Most distros have something called a "hardware compatability database".
It lists MOST hardware that is know to WORK, sorta work, or doesn't work.
Google is pretty useful as well, generally type in what hardware item you are concerned with, and append LINUX to the query... The more (real) hits you have, the more people generally have issues.
One does have to be careful with the last bit tho, just because a LOT of people had issues with stuff monts/years ago, may not be true today, most things get fixed quickly if a lot of people care.
(If only you and 3 other people have that soundcard, don't expect anything soon)
"You could use the GNU utils on FreeBSD and be just as fucking happy."
Not if I want all my hardware to work.
Fought that several times while "trying out" various BSD flavors over the years on numerous computers. (NetBSD 1.0 DID work well on my A3000/A2410 video card setup back in ~`94 tho IIRC, but any given Linux (0.93?) tarball "distro" was STILL far easier to port random software to...)
Just because it is "manufactured" doesn't mean nature doesn't know whats edible. (you can tell if something starts falling apart, SOMETHING likes it...)
Hell, they're bugs/fungii that live in jet fuel... I'm sure they didn't just evolve all of a sudden, they just happened across something tasty......To them at least.
Perhaps I'm missing something you are doing, but I back everything off on DVD-R or DVD+RW, and K3B works great, and I haven't made a coaster of a Linux iso in years. (only the rapid update schedule most Linux distros follow effectively turns them into coasters...)
As for "backing up" dvds, I let Blockbuster do it for me.
For stuff the grandkids watch over and over, mplayer rips to the MythTV setup, played on the XBox frontend in the living room prevents scratched media pretty effectively. (Although I DO have some scratched up XBox games I neglected to back up...)
If anyone needs investigated, or any new laws need to be written, it should concentrate on Cisco and other majors who sit on known vulnerabilities for months (or years).
I'll vote for whatever congressdroid steps up with a "Software Infrastructure accountability act of 2005" that actually codifies the "right" sequence/timetable for this sort of thing.
Unfortunately, IMHO, the goat.cx image the only one that would really work for SCO.
Sooooo... Mårten signed a CONTRACT. With SCO.
I hope MySQLs "Prepaid Legal" is current!
Paxville _IS_ 65nM, it's still a space heater.
A 8 core box would almost hit the legal limit for electric space heater size in the US
(1500W)
I'm a longtime AMD fanboi, but I expected better from Intel, having worked there for awhile as a vendor.
Intel has no shortage of VERY bright folk, so IMHO management should all be shot.
I have personally bought one Linux machine at Frys, little Linspire box, 2800 Semptron, ~$200.
(The article indicated that Frys DOESN'T sell Linux boxes. They do, even though they are bottom of the barrel machines)
Runs great in any case.
(The Linspire install lasted about 30 minutes just to try it out tho, Mandrake runs perfectly on it)
Not really on-topic, but Mandriva 2006 ftp install worked great.
MythTv from THACs works great as well, BUT you need the kernel from 2005LE (std or 2.6.8-11mm) if you are using IVTV. Patching it for Kat is required if you want to play with it (inotify support)
Aside from that, I feel the articles were a little to "tin foil hat" ish, but very likely on target.
(aside from the silly fellow who didn't borrow his buddies install discs for 10, at least to try them)
A Knoppix CD is a WONDERFUL tool to go shopping with for Linux compatible hardware...
And IIRC ALL the major distros have a HCL, SUSE, RH, Mandriva etc. It's really not hard.
Or ban the ability for "no-persons" (AKA Corporations) to contribute at ALL. In ANY way. ;-)
That would put their "influence" back to the traditional bribery and graft scenario
No vote? NO SAY.
Please god mod parent up....
If this IS an original troll (I have no idea) it deserves to be modded UP, IMHO.
Bravo!
"by Sycraft-fu (314770) Alter Relationship on Thursday October 13, @06:34PM (#13786123)
/sniff
However, what I would advocate is that the US should setup our own system. We would build our own root service."
Funny, I though the US already DID, and it's called.. The Internet.
The other morons want to set up THEIR own systems, so they can play by their own rules.
More power to them, IMHO. I'll miss them,
Did I miss something?
Anyone have a practical way of perhaps preventing corporations from spending ANYTHING, at ALL?
Last I checked, they can't even VOTE... I don't see an issue.
I feel they should just have to deal with it by having no influence at ALL.
I will never willingly watch TV without a DVR again, once you try it, "normal" TV viewing becomes a PITA.(whattayoumean I can't hit "pause"?)
I've been running MythTV on my "main" desktop box 24/7 since ~v.13.
(Now on Mandrake 10.2, probably until 2006 releases next week)
Even with SW encoding, it worked fine for "normal" things.
The hardware cards (Hauppage/M179s) have virtually zero system overhead.
I have run up to 4 TV cards in it, 3 M179s (HW) and a BTTV based one (software compression) with no issues a few moments of googling haven't resolved. I eventually found that 2 was really enough...
(But there is still no such thing as a "big enough harddrive")
(The BTTV card and the third M179 went into other systems for family members)
FWIW, I feel the BTTV card/sw xvid encoding had the best quality output by a small margin. YMMV.
For an absolutely no-brains required install, DL the latest Knoppmyth, stuff your TV cards in a generic box with a (large) blank HD, and boot, answer ~4 questions, give it your zap2it info, and you are basically done.
If I had mod points today...
Mod up! SEE your tax dollars at work!
"Twenty years ago Jobs said you should be able to walk up to any personal computer and make it your own."
/ducks
And Microsoft made that reality!
No, Mandrake^h^h^iva installs in about ~15 minutes on a reasonabbly fast machine, mabe half hour total including pulling updates.
One suggestion---
Most distros have something called a "hardware compatability database".
It lists MOST hardware that is know to WORK, sorta work, or doesn't work.
Google is pretty useful as well, generally type in what hardware item you are concerned with, and append LINUX to the query... The more (real) hits you have, the more people generally have issues.
One does have to be careful with the last bit tho, just because a LOT of people had issues with stuff monts/years ago, may not be true today, most things get fixed quickly if a lot of people care.
(If only you and 3 other people have that soundcard, don't expect anything soon)
"You could use the GNU utils on FreeBSD and be just as fucking happy."
Not if I want all my hardware to work.
Fought that several times while "trying out" various BSD flavors over the years on numerous computers.
(NetBSD 1.0 DID work well on my A3000/A2410 video card setup back in ~`94 tho IIRC, but any given Linux (0.93?)
tarball "distro" was STILL far easier to port random software to...)
Nylon is just synthetic silk.
...To them at least.
Just because it is "manufactured" doesn't mean nature doesn't know whats edible.
(you can tell if something starts falling apart, SOMETHING likes it...)
Hell, they're bugs/fungii that live in jet fuel...
I'm sure they didn't just evolve all of a sudden, they just happened across something tasty...
Is a troll who makes a valid point really a troll?
If I had mod points today, I'd probably mod the parent up, as it is at least a good point for discussion to start.
ISPs IMHO should actively monitor their customers, at least to the point of looking for zombie machines, and shutting them down automatically.
It would be a public service.
Perhaps I'm missing something you are doing, but I back everything off on DVD-R or DVD+RW, and K3B works great, and I haven't made a coaster of a Linux iso in years. (only the rapid update schedule most Linux distros follow effectively turns them into coasters...)
As for "backing up" dvds, I let Blockbuster do it for me.
For stuff the grandkids watch over and over, mplayer rips to the MythTV setup, played on the XBox frontend in the living room prevents scratched media pretty effectively.
(Although I DO have some scratched up XBox games I neglected to back up...)
It is likely that the children and grandchildren of the 68000 (Coldfire et al) are a lot more common than you think.
Look in any laser printer, or most cars.
This works, just klick thru to the original page when it gives an error
If anyone needs investigated, or any new laws need to be written, it should concentrate on Cisco and other majors who sit on known vulnerabilities for months (or years).
I'll vote for whatever congressdroid steps up with a "Software Infrastructure accountability act of 2005" that actually codifies the "right" sequence/timetable for this sort of thing.
Duck Tape? LOTS of Duck Tape.
You KNOW they must have thought of trying it...
Hmph...
Any really good antenna array probably doesn't LOOK like an antenna at ALL to most folks.
Itty Bitty Rhomboid, or pehaps a current loop setup anyone?
How about:
SHowing you commercials and making YOU pay for it.
No better than SPAM, or movie theatres.