I was moderating this thread until I saw this comment - simply modding you down for being an airhead wouldn't get the point across.
LANGUAGES DO NOT CAUSE ERRORS -- BAD PROGRAMMERS CAUSE ERRORS
You call the best programming languages out there (C/C++) "buffer overflow" languages - implying that they are broken - because they give you POWER they give you the full control that allows you to write the most effective programs. I want to see you perform pointer arithmetic in perl, python, java or C# -- I can show you some simple pointer arithmetic that reduces execution time drastically.
Java = distilled OOP to the point of masochism (ie non-OO tasks in OO), drastic performance loss due to being interpreted, all the GUI toolkits are confusing at best
C# = Platform Locked result of a foul craft cross between VISUAL BASIC and C++, One of my friends had to write in this horrid language for a class project because the other three members of her group were MS-Whores -- she became a rabid MS-hater after that, she never minded them before.
Perl - Good for a great many things, GUI applications aren't typically good in this language - and absolutely not games, time critical, mission critical, etc
Python - I haven't seen a use for it yet.... but i hear of it being used.
Anyone with a www.[insertyournamehere].[com/net/org/tv/biz/yourm om] needs to get off the n00b-wagon. That entire concept was lame when it started off - if you want a personel website atleast give it an origional name.
Except, that is, for ensuring that web pages I write render correctly on the lowest common denominator
Same here - i work for Ames Lab (not NASA AMES, Dept of Energy Ames Lab in Ames, IA) - im the new webmonkey for the condensed matter physics page (http://cmp.ameslab.gov -- the current version of the page is NOT my work)
I switch between Opera, IE and Mozilla for testing - but for my browsing needs it's been straight netscape/mozilla since the internet was invented -- not _once_ have i had a problem accessing banks, etc using Mozilla -- funny thing is my own community CC had more problems with IE users than netscape/mozilla users - N/M always comes with 128bit crypto, that wasn't true for IE until relatively recently, they'd have users locked out how having lame [sub-par] crypto.
I occasionally run into sites that are IE-only - they're typically M$ cronies sites, etc -- and when they're not and it's just surely ignorance I give the webmaster a [polite] earful and generally the problem get's fixed.
BTW: Hurray for IE actually conforming to the DOM2 standard finally - i don't have to write seperate drop menu JS code for IE, NS/Moz and Opera
I've done substantive development using Wind River's Zinc application framework.
Sorry, I've never even heard of Zinc before.
It was just fluidly easy.
The same can be said for wxWindows
Does anyone have any comparitive info on WxWindows VS MFC or Zinc?
MFC is a child's toy, especially next to wxWindows.
Will WxWindows work well within the Visual C++ (6.0) IDE?
It's wxMSW (the wxWindows implementation for wxWindows) is native to VC++ 6.0 and I use VC++ 6.0 Enterprise
Is the end result of WxWindows worth the effort of learning the implementation? Absofragginglutely:D write once compile on Windows, *Nix, OSX, *BSD,.....
That would be awesome bruce. I would actually buy such a book. I rarely buy coding books anymore because i have the essentials - some good C++ references, including one that i can use to teach total newbies how to be good coders out of, and the man pages and cplusplus.com. Along with the individual libraries documentation (like wxWindows) If Julian makes a awesome set of docs for wxWindows then I may actually have another book to buy:D.
[for those who don't see it DAldredge mentioned what i forgot]
like DAldredge said - wxWindows doesn't cost you money, ever. And your comment about "maybe you get what you pay for" is absurd.
I personally like the wxWindows library. It's fully object oiented and handles all default behaviors for you. It has a very easy to use message handling system and the documentation is excellent (but should include a screenshot of each control for quicker reference). I once wrote apps is pure win32 API.. *puke* [this was before I really got interested in linux] I now refuse to use anything other than wxWindows.
Advantages of wxWindows: Fully Cross Platform Easy to learn API Object Oriented model is well suited to GUI construction - 1 class = 1 screen object
You really should check it out - www.wxwindows.org
If you are a Democrat and you lie to a Republican congress, you are breaking the law (c.f. "I did not have sex with that woman").
You are yet another one of millions of people who just don't get it. IN COURT they defined 'sexual relations' as COITUS, Bill Clinton DID NOT HAVE COITUS with that women, so he had to say "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" when in court - otherwise he would have actually been commiting perjury.
Right now i'm twenty.. this issue happened in what.. 1997? I would have been what was it... 13 and I understood this at that time.
actually i think ICBMs have the nuke inside a transport housing that could come apart in the event of the crash - i was talking about having the shielding be part of the bomb
first im fairely sure it said "blowing a chunk out" not "blowing up"
second there are a lot of explosives that do not denoated if they crash into objects (nuclear weapons are a good example - they will ONLY detonate if their DETONATION CIRCUITRY initiates a detonation -- and they can be impact-harddened so that if they crash the casing won't even crack -- hell i bet you could shield a nuke enough to let it survive reentery without it leaking any radioactivity let alone detonating)
it's sad when mindless reactionism is modded insightful
Instead of wasting wall space on projector/screen pair just have the windows switch to Opaque CRT mode and feed them the feed of your power point, video, or what ever.
The fact that the media is becoming skeptical is probably based off the fact that we are skeptical. Enough of us have probably informed the media agencies of exactly how things work and that SCO is just blowing smoke so that they realized that SCOs claims may just be a lot of smoke. They Media will be all over SCO like white on Rice of IBM's response CRUSHES SCO's case.
I can't wait to see the headline "SCO's propaganda crushed by IBM".
... and I wish to moderate this news "-1 Flamebait" or "-1 Troll" or even better - "-1 Moronic".
Making predictions about extincts based off temperature fluctuations that we don't understand the root cause of but chicken-little it and say it's "global warming" and it's "our fault" is a lot like saying Dubya's a good president.
I have a nice chart of the global temperature over the last 4.3 billion years - it goes up and it goes down, sometimes at rates much higher than it's fluctuating right now. Furthermore 30 years ago we were on a slight down trend IIRC. More likely than not withing 20 years this trent will have leveled off and maybe even by back on the down.
Oh - btw the "we add so much carbon-dioxide.. yada yada yada" to the atmosphere is more alarmism - the average volcanic eruption is more than 40 years worth of everything we put into the atmosphere. Sure we're deforesting to - but last i check cyanobacter [blue-green algae] and plant-like planktons do most of the photosynthesis on the planet. [now before you go off on the oil spills tangent our 'oil spills' contribute less than 10% of total oil-into-ocean leakage each year, and there are even specialized organisms that live off natural oil seepage such as in the Gulf of Mexico).
Who wants to listen to the person who's been chasing for as long as he can remember, and grew up reading as many meteorology books as he can:D Only reason why I am a computer scientist: it's more profitable and I am also good at it.
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Very insightful post.. and i just ran out of mod points a few minutes ago
You missed the point of my post - buffer overflows and memory leaks are due to BAD PROGRAMMERS - lazy, or just plain incompetant programming.
I was moderating this thread until I saw this comment - simply modding you down for being an airhead wouldn't get the point across.
LANGUAGES DO NOT CAUSE ERRORS -- BAD PROGRAMMERS CAUSE ERRORS
You call the best programming languages out there (C/C++) "buffer overflow" languages - implying that they are broken - because they give you POWER they give you the full control that allows you to write the most effective programs. I want to see you perform pointer arithmetic in perl, python, java or C# -- I can show you some simple pointer arithmetic that reduces execution time drastically.
Java = distilled OOP to the point of masochism (ie non-OO tasks in OO), drastic performance loss due to being interpreted, all the GUI toolkits are confusing at best
C# = Platform Locked result of a foul craft cross between VISUAL BASIC and C++, One of my friends had to write in this horrid language for a class project because the other three members of her group were MS-Whores -- she became a rabid MS-hater after that, she never minded them before.
Perl - Good for a great many things, GUI applications aren't typically good in this language - and absolutely not games, time critical, mission critical, etc
Python - I haven't seen a use for it yet.... but i hear of it being used.
Fancy graphics and spiffy flash do not make a good site - the "goodness" of a site is measured in USABILITY
Every week mozilla when get a new name!
When they run out of english words they'll switch to vulcan, then klingon.
[I like Mozilla]
Anyone with a www.[insertyournamehere].[com/net/org/tv/biz/yourm om] needs to get off the n00b-wagon. That entire concept was lame when it started off - if you want a personel website atleast give it an origional name.
Isn't JFS express property of IBM and NOT SCO so SCO is making bs claims here?
Anyone that uses "Mebibyte" notation deserves instant moderation down i've used linux to move 1gb files, it performs MUCH better than windows.
They piss off the linux community so then they post an article they they think the linux community will appreciate.
Apology of sorts?
Probably not, but food for thought
Except, that is, for ensuring that web pages I write render correctly on the lowest common denominator
Same here - i work for Ames Lab (not NASA AMES, Dept of Energy Ames Lab in Ames, IA) - im the new webmonkey for the condensed matter physics page (http://cmp.ameslab.gov -- the current version of the page is NOT my work) I switch between Opera, IE and Mozilla for testing - but for my browsing needs it's been straight netscape/mozilla since the internet was invented -- not _once_ have i had a problem accessing banks, etc using Mozilla -- funny thing is my own community CC had more problems with IE users than netscape/mozilla users - N/M always comes with 128bit crypto, that wasn't true for IE until relatively recently, they'd have users locked out how having lame [sub-par] crypto.
I occasionally run into sites that are IE-only - they're typically M$ cronies sites, etc -- and when they're not and it's just surely ignorance I give the webmaster a [polite] earful and generally the problem get's fixed.
BTW: Hurray for IE actually conforming to the DOM2 standard finally - i don't have to write seperate drop menu JS code for IE, NS/Moz and Opera
no text! I've tried to post articles and they always get rejected - then i post something and someone else get's the credit for it! grrr
I've done substantive development using Wind River's Zinc application framework.
:D write once compile on Windows, *Nix, OSX, *BSD, .....
Sorry, I've never even heard of Zinc before.
It was just fluidly easy.
The same can be said for wxWindows
Does anyone have any comparitive info on WxWindows VS MFC or Zinc?
MFC is a child's toy, especially next to wxWindows.
Will WxWindows work well within the Visual C++ (6.0) IDE?
It's wxMSW (the wxWindows implementation for wxWindows) is native to VC++ 6.0 and I use VC++ 6.0 Enterprise
Is the end result of WxWindows worth the effort of learning the implementation?
Absofragginglutely
That would be awesome bruce. I would actually buy such a book. I rarely buy coding books anymore because i have the essentials - some good C++ references, including one that i can use to teach total newbies how to be good coders out of, and the man pages and cplusplus.com. Along with the individual libraries documentation (like wxWindows) If Julian makes a awesome set of docs for wxWindows then I may actually have another book to buy :D.
As always bruce, thanks for your input.
[for those who don't see it DAldredge mentioned what i forgot]
like DAldredge said - wxWindows doesn't cost you money, ever. And your comment about "maybe you get what you pay for" is absurd.
SciTech Display doctor was written using wxWindows - here is a screen shot: http://www.wxwindows.org/screen50.htm
Even AOh3ll uses wxWindows in their apps
I personally like the wxWindows library. It's fully object oiented and handles all default behaviors for you. It has a very easy to use message handling system and the documentation is excellent (but should include a screenshot of each control for quicker reference). I once wrote apps is pure win32 API.. *puke* [this was before I really got interested in linux] I now refuse to use anything other than wxWindows.
Advantages of wxWindows:
Fully Cross Platform
Easy to learn API
Object Oriented model is well suited to GUI construction - 1 class = 1 screen object
You really should check it out - www.wxwindows.org
[Now that i cannot even do it] I wasn't sure if i should have moderated that Funny or Flamebait/Troll .... shoulda flipped a coin
I'll have to stop into [IEEE President] Dr Chang's office and thank him on behalf of slashdot (he's the CS department chair where i go to school)
If you are a Democrat and you lie to a Republican congress, you are breaking the law (c.f. "I did not have sex with that woman").
You are yet another one of millions of people who just don't get it. IN COURT they defined 'sexual relations' as COITUS, Bill Clinton DID NOT HAVE COITUS with that women, so he had to say "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" when in court - otherwise he would have actually been commiting perjury.
Right now i'm twenty.. this issue happened in what.. 1997? I would have been what was it... 13 and I understood this at that time.
actually i think ICBMs have the nuke inside a transport housing that could come apart in the event of the crash - i was talking about having the shielding be part of the bomb
first im fairely sure it said "blowing a chunk out" not "blowing up"
second there are a lot of explosives that do not denoated if they crash into objects (nuclear weapons are a good example - they will ONLY detonate if their DETONATION CIRCUITRY initiates a detonation -- and they can be impact-harddened so that if they crash the casing won't even crack -- hell i bet you could shield a nuke enough to let it survive reentery without it leaking any radioactivity let alone detonating)
it's sad when mindless reactionism is modded insightful
Instead of wasting wall space on projector/screen pair just have the windows switch to Opaque CRT mode and feed them the feed of your power point, video, or what ever.
The fact that the media is becoming skeptical is probably based off the fact that we are skeptical. Enough of us have probably informed the media agencies of exactly how things work and that SCO is just blowing smoke so that they realized that SCOs claims may just be a lot of smoke. They Media will be all over SCO like white on Rice of IBM's response CRUSHES SCO's case.
I can't wait to see the headline "SCO's propaganda crushed by IBM".
Metamoderator whoever said i was being flamebait as being unfair
... and I wish to moderate this news "-1 Flamebait" or "-1 Troll" or even better - "-1 Moronic".
:D Only reason why I am a computer scientist: it's more profitable and I am also good at it.
Making predictions about extincts based off temperature fluctuations that we don't understand the root cause of but chicken-little it and say it's "global warming" and it's "our fault" is a lot like saying Dubya's a good president.
I have a nice chart of the global temperature over the last 4.3 billion years - it goes up and it goes down, sometimes at rates much higher than it's fluctuating right now. Furthermore 30 years ago we were on a slight down trend IIRC. More likely than not withing 20 years this trent will have leveled off and maybe even by back on the down.
Oh - btw the "we add so much carbon-dioxide.. yada yada yada" to the atmosphere is more alarmism - the average volcanic eruption is more than 40 years worth of everything we put into the atmosphere. Sure we're deforesting to - but last i check cyanobacter [blue-green algae] and plant-like planktons do most of the photosynthesis on the planet. [now before you go off on the oil spills tangent our 'oil spills' contribute less than 10% of total oil-into-ocean leakage each year, and there are even specialized organisms that live off natural oil seepage such as in the Gulf of Mexico).
Who wants to listen to the person who's been chasing for as long as he can remember, and grew up reading as many meteorology books as he can