I don't think it would happen mainly because Jobbs is a control FREAK. He needs absolute 100% control over everything in the computer, there hardware sells what not be safe because of the clones, it would happen no matter what kind of proprietary things apple put into there own hardware.. If someone makes it someone will break it.
I agree with the first post completely on the item of outdated tech experience. I work for a large company (3500 employees) and write interal apps for the Palm OS platform. My project manager was a mainframe programmer for 20 years and the only programming language he knows is COBOL (if you call that a language). He has know clue about how an embedded operating system works, hasn't done any type of memory management coding since his asm class in college. He'll ask me why I miss a deadline and I'll try to explain to him the complexitys of implementing a relational database on a palm, but it goes over his head and all he wants is a date. Me being fairly new to the pro-programmer gig guesstimates and the hammer falls from way up top when i'm off. Now, shouldn't the project manager have enough technical experience to understand the application, and be able to estimate times and give me due dates? Or am I being to idealistic.
Actually it's not so stupid thinking. Most laptops are bought buy suits to run desktop operating systems, Linux is not a widely accepted desktop operating system. Now Linux is a widely accepted server operating system, and is and will remain there flagship operating system on things like the oh the zSeries... Linux isn't selling on the desktop, and frankly it's not ready for an average user. It's a geeks desktop and I love it, but it's not your typical suits laptop os.
bah, they'll never see a kernel panic unless they ru n bleeding edge kernels anyways. You expect these guys to downloading the latest kernel source and install a spiffy 2.5 kernel.. yeah right!
Ok, I hate Mandrake, RedHat and SUSE personally. To me they're just not geeky enough. If it aint debian, i prolly aint gona run it. But the point being is that even though mandrake isn't for geeks, it is for some people. Those dummy tools are great for someone who has never heard of a man page. I would never run mandrake on my pc, but I wouldn't feel uncomfortable putting it on my fathers, or little brothers pc.
Just a warning, if you do want to use UFS there is a bug in the mozilla code base that will prevent mozilla and netscape 6 from running on a UFS partition. Also various apps have little problems i have run into, for instance the quicken installer doesnt work, but the app does. Chimera and omniweb work tho, so at least you wouldnt be stuck with ie!
Stable? You call windows stable, why is it the average up time at my site on nt/2k servers is 2 weeks, and on the unix boxen its 8 months? Answer me this. Stable, anything is stable when you dont utilize it.
God sometimes i think the moderators are braindead, insightfull, no igornant is what that comment is. This is a win for GNU/Linux as an operating system, to have a commodity PC ship with a GNU/Linux operating system preinstalled is a very very very big deal. Why would they have to buy Microsoft Office? Open Office is pre installed with lindows i believe. No you incorrect, this is a win for linux, a big win.
As a Palm OS developer by trade I've been using the OS 5 development kits for about 4 months now since they were released at palm souce, and I must say that the end users really aren't going to get that much out of this latest release. Reasons being are that the ARM enhancements are designed as what are being called "armlets", small peices of code within the m68k code that is accellerated for an ARM proccessor. Palm isn't pushing native ARM applications which has pluses and minuses, new apps will still run on the older devices minus any armlet functionality, but the new ARM devices are going to have apps that are running slower than they should be do to the m68k -> arm translation. The other thing about this release new API, they've cleaned up a lot of the garbage and added a lot of new functionality so as a developer you got lots of more toys to place with, but as an end user don't expect this to be some holy grail of pda os's. Another downfall of Palms current plan for OS 5 is that they are targetting a handheld unit with a 66mhz arm proccessor, yes a 66mhz proc.. It's rediculous because the new xscale arcitechure which has 400mhz+ cpus has dropped the ARM prices dramatically. But anywho, I am excited to see a unit running OS 5.
goto www.palmos.com you'll find screenshots there. The OS looks pretty much the same though, the changes are mainly internal and you really wont notice them till apps come out with support for them.
I wonder how companies feel about being more or less pushed into this...
being pushed into it or not AMD feels this is a neccessary component to avoid overheating and cpu failure, so we will see less cruddy motherboards on the market. This is a good thing, and forces motherboard manufacturers to add something to the board that should already be there. AMD gets my blessing, Thanks AMD!
that was wrong in so many ways. IBM has been the number one contributor to hard disk technology since they have came into existance. They bought us more reliable, faster and higher throughput drives consistantly. So maybe a few drives fell through the qa process, big deal. I can gaurentee that there is a higher percent of failed seagate, western digital and maxtor drives. Thanks IBM, for all the great new dazzly stuff you bought me!
It's good to see Transmeta snaggin some big contracts down. After the couple sony models with the transmeta chip it seemed as if the company was going down hill fast. It would be sad to see a cool company like transmeta go, so let's all go out buy web pads now:)
i just downloaded the patch and it was only 12 MB... not bad considering the office 2000 sr 1 was 85 MB. The way i look at it is that we have now entered the beta testing phase, when sr3 is released the product can be deemed stable enough for everyday use.
I don't think it would happen mainly because Jobbs is a control FREAK. He needs absolute 100% control over everything in the computer, there hardware sells what not be safe because of the clones, it would happen no matter what kind of proprietary things apple put into there own hardware.. If someone makes it someone will break it.
If these are as good as they sound, all those speculations and rumors of apple switchin to intel are going to be thrown out the back door.
With all the bugs in M$ products, there cubes must sound like a rock concert!
"The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offense."
I agree with the first post completely on the item of outdated tech experience. I work for a large company (3500 employees) and write interal apps for the Palm OS platform. My project manager was a mainframe programmer for 20 years and the only programming language he knows is COBOL (if you call that a language). He has know clue about how an embedded operating system works, hasn't done any type of memory management coding since his asm class in college. He'll ask me why I miss a deadline and I'll try to explain to him the complexitys of implementing a relational database on a palm, but it goes over his head and all he wants is a date. Me being fairly new to the pro-programmer gig guesstimates and the hammer falls from way up top when i'm off. Now, shouldn't the project manager have enough technical experience to understand the application, and be able to estimate times and give me due dates? Or am I being to idealistic.
Actually it's not so stupid thinking. Most laptops are bought buy suits to run desktop operating systems, Linux is not a widely accepted desktop operating system. Now Linux is a widely accepted server operating system, and is and will remain there flagship operating system on things like the oh the zSeries... Linux isn't selling on the desktop, and frankly it's not ready for an average user. It's a geeks desktop and I love it, but it's not your typical suits laptop os.
bah, they'll never see a kernel panic unless they ru n bleeding edge kernels anyways. You expect these guys to downloading the latest kernel source and install a spiffy 2.5 kernel.. yeah right!
Ok, I hate Mandrake, RedHat and SUSE personally. To me they're just not geeky enough. If it aint debian, i prolly aint gona run it. But the point being is that even though mandrake isn't for geeks, it is for some people. Those dummy tools are great for someone who has never heard of a man page. I would never run mandrake on my pc, but I wouldn't feel uncomfortable putting it on my fathers, or little brothers pc.
Just a warning, if you do want to use UFS there is a bug in the mozilla code base that will prevent mozilla and netscape 6 from running on a UFS partition. Also various apps have little problems i have run into, for instance the quicken installer doesnt work, but the app does. Chimera and omniweb work tho, so at least you wouldnt be stuck with ie!
Stable? You call windows stable, why is it the average up time at my site on nt/2k servers is 2 weeks, and on the unix boxen its 8 months? Answer me this. Stable, anything is stable when you dont utilize it.
God sometimes i think the moderators are braindead, insightfull, no igornant is what that comment is. This is a win for GNU/Linux as an operating system, to have a commodity PC ship with a GNU/Linux operating system preinstalled is a very very very big deal. Why would they have to buy Microsoft Office? Open Office is pre installed with lindows i believe. No you incorrect, this is a win for linux, a big win.
I thought i read that this had already happened in may or junes linux journal. Or am i halucinating again?
As a Palm OS developer by trade I've been using the OS 5 development kits for about 4 months now since they were released at palm souce, and I must say that the end users really aren't going to get that much out of this latest release. Reasons being are that the ARM enhancements are designed as what are being called "armlets", small peices of code within the m68k code that is accellerated for an ARM proccessor. Palm isn't pushing native ARM applications which has pluses and minuses, new apps will still run on the older devices minus any armlet functionality, but the new ARM devices are going to have apps that are running slower than they should be do to the m68k -> arm translation. The other thing about this release new API, they've cleaned up a lot of the garbage and added a lot of new functionality so as a developer you got lots of more toys to place with, but as an end user don't expect this to be some holy grail of pda os's. Another downfall of Palms current plan for OS 5 is that they are targetting a handheld unit with a 66mhz arm proccessor, yes a 66mhz proc.. It's rediculous because the new xscale arcitechure which has 400mhz+ cpus has dropped the ARM prices dramatically. But anywho, I am excited to see a unit running OS 5.
goto www.palmos.com you'll find screenshots there. The OS looks pretty much the same though, the changes are mainly internal and you really wont notice them till apps come out with support for them.
SELinux isn't designed to be a standalone distro, but a set of enhancements to common software that is in all distros.
being pushed into it or not AMD feels this is a neccessary component to avoid overheating and cpu failure, so we will see less cruddy motherboards on the market. This is a good thing, and forces motherboard manufacturers to add something to the board that should already be there.
AMD gets my blessing, Thanks AMD!
hrmm well this sucks on my G4 powerbook whenever i open a photo in edit mode it crashes..
Is anyone else having problems with iPhoto after upgrading?
it's going to be in the next outlook virus.. gopher links thru html enabled email..
got pine?
Hey, at least it's faster than nautilus. Personally I have found finder to be less than adequate anyways. Bash is my file manager of choice
that was wrong in so many ways. IBM has been the number one contributor to hard disk technology since they have came into existance. They bought us more reliable, faster and higher throughput drives consistantly. So maybe a few drives fell through the qa process, big deal. I can gaurentee that there is a higher percent of failed seagate, western digital and maxtor drives. Thanks IBM, for all the great new dazzly stuff you bought me!
My 800mhz tiBook /w 1GB ram will eat your 1.5 p4 alive. i did some benchmarking of rtcw on my thinkpad, and my powerbook.. Guess which one won.
You aint seen nothing till you've seen rtcw on a tiBook. I push around 60FPS in wide screen mode with everything turned on.
It's good to see Transmeta snaggin some big contracts down. After the couple sony models with the transmeta chip it seemed as if the company was going down hill fast. It would be sad to see a cool company like transmeta go, so let's all go out buy web pads now :)
i just downloaded the patch and it was only 12 MB... not bad considering the office 2000 sr 1 was 85 MB. The way i look at it is that we have now entered the beta testing phase, when sr3 is released the product can be deemed stable enough for everyday use.