Same failure in disguise.
Repeat after me:
There
is
no
objectivity!
Read up some stuff about how our senses work, how our brain works and how everything in the world is relative (einstein et al.)
I'm sorry, you still are wrong.:)
lol. and what does "sucking" mean? sucking = bad. bad = good * -1 (or so;)
so... it's the same thing, isn't it?:)
and i am working on a gentoo linux system with kde 3.5 and compiz right now (not in pimp-mode tough;), and it does not suck at all. it's not perfect, mut i never want to go back to windows. it's like being able to control the matrix. you never want that ability to stop.:)
> And most certainly, some of these changes will be better, objectively better, unless of course your purpose is to confuse and alienate users. So yeah, maybe you're right, there's nothing absolute in this world.
There is no objectivity. Sorry. It's the same thing in disguise.
What you mean by "objective" is "everyone (i an think of,) agrees to this". well. there are still other people. i did this failure myself. you simply can't expect something to be the same everywhere and for everyone... except if you live in a very small world. even time is not absolute. tell me one single absolute thing... just one.:)
I don't want to insult anyone with this, but that whole discussion about who knows what design is "TEH BEST!!!!1one(lim x->0 ((sin x)/x)" is rather stupid. It's based on the logic flaw that there is something absolute in this world.
There isn't.
And that's a good thing.
Now I thought about this quite a bit, and wrote a possible solution to in in my other post.
It's one simple concept: There are two ways in which software is built. The business way, and the open source way.
The business way is driven by the target of making money. So they try to appeal to everyone. This usually (wrongly) leads to making it as easy as possible, so everyone can use it.
Then there's the open source way. This one has no interest in money, so the creators add, what they like to have in the software. Now usually these are computer professionals, and because they built it, of course it's perfectly usable for them. Unfortunately this means it's very hard to use for non-professionals.
Both ways have their flaws for those that are not in the target group. But they emerged naturally.
The solution is, to let everyone grow to his own level of expertise in the program. We need a program that starts out being as easy as it gets, but grows with your involvement. (=if you work more with it.) Something like difficulty modes in games. Just it's not the difficulty. It's the shortcuts, the special view modes, the application layout, the shown controls, the wizards, and so on. Of course you can always set that level yourself.
Think of vi, in notepad mode, then gradually growing to emacs if you like.;) (o boy, i'll get killed for this... hint: i like none of those 3 editors because of the problems mentioned in this post.;)
The best thing about it: You can make the Gnome people AND the KDE people happy. Oh, and the console/magnet/butterfly people too:)
System Shock (1&2) had loads of this stuff. Cigarettes (aka coughing nails), boozes, drugs to inject to get you all weird. If you played it like me (non stop from start to end, eating only when i could find something in the game, sleeping with the game running, everything for immersion), and drank often ingame, to overcome the stress... it could get *really* crazy.... ehem... it GOT really crazy.
Those were the good old times. My half plant half lion friends, the recreational deck, and every drug the (virtual) world had to offer. Loved those games like no other....
Hmm... you could go *Way* further: A retarded legal system you say? I think this is a piece of a much larger problem of retardization. (Is that how it's written?) Now there are two theories that i personally find most likely:
Theory A: Stupid people can be controlled more easily. No matter of you're a religious, political or commercial leader. Dumb them down and they buy every shit you say or sell, as long as you know how to manipulate (psychology of the masses). Religious leaders had great success with this an the dark age of Europe, and something similar happens to the people in some Muslim countries (and one Christian country) right now. And i always hear companies wanting to make everything as easy as possible, so nobody might have to think... until an even bigger idiot complains that it's too hard to use. All this together creates a huge downward spiral. Good luck fixing that with education, when you have to ask leaders for it, that are already retarded but still greedy for power.;)
Theory B: The more people we have on planet earth, the more easy life gets, and the less every single person has to achieve. Today you don't have to hunt, build, fight, etc. You can sit on your ass for 1/3 of the day and watch TV, do some simple job for 1/3, and sleep the other 1/3 of the day. And you can easily survive. Not the greatest life at all, but you survive and put children in the world. In the end that's what counts. The state becomes your nanny. People even demand it, because they can. And the more people there are, the more common solutions become available, the more little things are handled for you, the less you have to think for yourself. I've literally seen human robots working and many, many jobs. Something outside their little managed world can't be parsed and does not exist to them.
Of course - this is the saddest part - those two theories are not mutually exclusive. Most likely there are even more factors.
If I'd get very rich some time, I'd offer at least a 1 billion prize to the one who can prove to solve this problem, and globally implement the solution.
> > So this will not only mean "search person X, because the computer tells us he is a thief". It will mean they keep searching till they find something.
> I think your foil hat is too tight.
I think you never got in such a situation. I did. I'm happy I got away with my life. I did not find it funny! So STFU and get some perspective. Guess which country it was....
WTF? Now everyone who's posting anonymous is a "twitter"? I'm from germany, and i remember those thought patterns from somewhere... hmm...
Additionally the guy (or girl) did not even say anything crappy or trollish. You on the other hand are. Let's call you a "twitter" for a change. How about that?
1) It's all in your head. Using fearmongering is very successful. Luckily you have a higher level of brain functions that can mostly override fear with logic. Use it (I know it's hard, but so is starting to learn a sport or some complex system. Think of it like a muscle that you have to train.).:)
2) I'm sure as a good geek, you can come up with hundreds of different ways to "hack" corrupt corporations.:)
3) This is also proof that those views can be changed.:)
Well. Guess what. You have this solution. Turn on main brain. All your country belongs to you. Take off every 'American'. For great justice!:D
Background info: 1. I am NOT an American, I know four other languages, so be mild on the typos. 2. I DO work on a plan for a new government that does not ignore the the conflict between personal interests and interests of being a leader of people. 3. I AM trying to mobilize people, so I am allowed to ask others to do it too. 4. I do not plan to do anything evil like hurt people or similar stuff. Only losers do need that. Professionals use psychology. 5. I'm just learning this style of psychology right now. So I'm not good at it *yet*. What are you doing?:) 6. I see you as my friend in the first place, no matter who you are, and even if you do very stupid things.
- Vote for candidate A. See candidate A taking a bribe. Be too weak to start an uprising and rip him out of his golden throne. Get told by an idiot to vote better the next time.
- Vote for candidate B. (May not avaliable in your country.) See candidate B taking a bribe. Be too weak to start an uprising and rip him out of his golden throne. Get told by an idiot to vote better the next time.
- Vote for candidate C. (May not avaliable in your country.) See him not getting enough votes and screaming of what he will change when it is his turn. Watch him become candidate A in the next vote.
Caution: Depending on the country, you can get shot for voting for someone other than candidate A.
Do I have to say more? As long as you're not in a revolutionist (aka "terrorist" aka "pinko" aka whatever) group, planning to overturn this non-working system to replace it by something better (hint: NOT another revolutionist who becomes corrupt too), you are responsible for your leaders. Come on. There are what, 250 million of you? Against what? 250,000? For ONCE be a real american, have something to be proud of, and be a leader.:)
P.S.: Cue the excuses for not acting, so you can accept your own self, in 3... 2... 1...
Truly no cap here in Germany. At least I know huge p2p users that never hit any potential limit. I hope that soon you can get a cap that is so large that it becomes irrelevant.
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Same failure in disguise. Repeat after me: There is no objectivity! Read up some stuff about how our senses work, how our brain works and how everything in the world is relative (einstein et al.) I'm sorry, you still are wrong. :)
lol. and what does "sucking" mean? sucking = bad. bad = good * -1 (or so ;)
so... it's the same thing, isn't it? :)
and i am working on a gentoo linux system with kde 3.5 and compiz right now (not in pimp-mode tough ;), and it does not suck at all. it's not perfect, mut i never want to go back to windows. it's like being able to control the matrix. you never want that ability to stop. :)
> And most certainly, some of these changes will be better, objectively better, unless of course your purpose is to confuse and alienate users. So yeah, maybe you're right, there's nothing absolute in this world. There is no objectivity. Sorry. It's the same thing in disguise. What you mean by "objective" is "everyone (i an think of,) agrees to this". well. there are still other people. i did this failure myself. you simply can't expect something to be the same everywhere and for everyone... except if you live in a very small world. even time is not absolute. tell me one single absolute thing... just one. :)
I don't want to insult anyone with this, but that whole discussion about who knows what design is "TEH BEST!!!!1one(lim x->0 ((sin x)/x)" is rather stupid. It's based on the logic flaw that there is something absolute in this world.
There isn't.
And that's a good thing.
Now I thought about this quite a bit, and wrote a possible solution to in in my other post.
It's one simple concept:
There are two ways in which software is built. The business way, and the open source way.
The business way is driven by the target of making money. So they try to appeal to everyone. This usually (wrongly) leads to making it as easy as possible, so everyone can use it.
Then there's the open source way. This one has no interest in money, so the creators add, what they like to have in the software. Now usually these are computer professionals, and because they built it, of course it's perfectly usable for them. Unfortunately this means it's very hard to use for non-professionals.
Both ways have their flaws for those that are not in the target group. But they emerged naturally.
The solution is, to let everyone grow to his own level of expertise in the program. We need a program that starts out being as easy as it gets, but grows with your involvement. (=if you work more with it.) Something like difficulty modes in games. Just it's not the difficulty. It's the shortcuts, the special view modes, the application layout, the shown controls, the wizards, and so on.
Of course you can always set that level yourself.
Think of vi, in notepad mode, then gradually growing to emacs if you like. ;) (o boy, i'll get killed for this... hint: i like none of those 3 editors because of the problems mentioned in this post. ;)
The best thing about it: You can make the Gnome people AND the KDE people happy. Oh, and the console/magnet/butterfly people too :)
Damn. Slashdot ate my Âover-generalization tags for the second paragraph. Just to be clear.
Would not help a bit. I've never eaten one. I'm from the German mid-west, where there's no such thing, you even more insensitive clod. ;)
Maybe you should go back to praying 24/7, eating nothing but burgers and not using your brain ;)
Well, well, well... Flamebait? Right?
Okay, I invite you. Yeah... like in REALITY... Really!
Then we go to Yugoslavia and we'll see if you act like this when some ex-war-prisoner tells you his stories.
Assholes. Really. (Not an insult, because it's true.)
Troll? Aww, come on... Has a troll without humor got some mod points? :\
A sad day for Slashdot.
System Shock (1&2) had loads of this stuff. Cigarettes (aka coughing nails), boozes, drugs to inject to get you all weird. If you played it like me (non stop from start to end, eating only when i could find something in the game, sleeping with the game running, everything for immersion), and drank often ingame, to overcome the stress... it could get *really* crazy.... ehem... it GOT really crazy.
Those were the good old times. My half plant half lion friends, the recreational deck, and every drug the (virtual) world had to offer. Loved those games like no other....
You know what's also an instantly relatable unit?
Centimeters!
Oh, and by the way:
I live in Germany you insensitive clod!
Hmm... you could go *Way* further:
A retarded legal system you say? I think this is a piece of a much larger problem of retardization. (Is that how it's written?)
Now there are two theories that i personally find most likely:
Theory A: Stupid people can be controlled more easily. No matter of you're a religious, political or commercial leader. Dumb them down and they buy every shit you say or sell, as long as you know how to manipulate (psychology of the masses). Religious leaders had great success with this an the dark age of Europe, and something similar happens to the people in some Muslim countries (and one Christian country) right now. And i always hear companies wanting to make everything as easy as possible, so nobody might have to think... until an even bigger idiot complains that it's too hard to use. All this together creates a huge downward spiral. Good luck fixing that with education, when you have to ask leaders for it, that are already retarded but still greedy for power. ;)
Theory B: The more people we have on planet earth, the more easy life gets, and the less every single person has to achieve. Today you don't have to hunt, build, fight, etc. You can sit on your ass for 1/3 of the day and watch TV, do some simple job for 1/3, and sleep the other 1/3 of the day. And you can easily survive. Not the greatest life at all, but you survive and put children in the world. In the end that's what counts.
The state becomes your nanny. People even demand it, because they can. And the more people there are, the more common solutions become available, the more little things are handled for you, the less you have to think for yourself. I've literally seen human robots working and many, many jobs. Something outside their little managed world can't be parsed and does not exist to them.
Of course - this is the saddest part - those two theories are not mutually exclusive. Most likely there are even more factors.
If I'd get very rich some time, I'd offer at least a 1 billion prize to the one who can prove to solve this problem, and globally implement the solution.
This is the best comment I've read on Slashdot in a long time...
> > So this will not only mean "search person X, because the computer tells us he is a thief". It will mean they keep searching till they find something.
> I think your foil hat is too tight.
I think you never got in such a situation. I did. I'm happy I got away with my life. I did not find it funny! So STFU and get some perspective. Guess which country it was....
Troll: Check
Racist: Check
Funny: Check!
One should add: If you have nothing to say, and you're an ass, at least be funny. :D
You must be new here... (as a geek / in IT / in Microsoft tactics).
you forgot
- the tricycle with four-wheel drive
- the waterproof sundial
Man, those moderators get weirder en weirder...
WTF? Now everyone who's posting anonymous is a "twitter"? I'm from germany, and i remember those thought patterns from somewhere... hmm...
Additionally the guy (or girl) did not even say anything crappy or trollish. You on the other hand are. Let's call you a "twitter" for a change. How about that?
Man, you'll get that speed back when shooting of the satellite. That's the whole point of it!
1) It's all in your head. Using fearmongering is very successful. Luckily you have a higher level of brain functions that can mostly override fear with logic. Use it (I know it's hard, but so is starting to learn a sport or some complex system. Think of it like a muscle that you have to train.). :)
2) I'm sure as a good geek, you can come up with hundreds of different ways to "hack" corrupt corporations. :)
3) This is also proof that those views can be changed. :)
Well. Guess what. You have this solution. Turn on main brain. All your country belongs to you. Take off every 'American'. For great justice! :D
Background info: :)
1. I am NOT an American, I know four other languages, so be mild on the typos.
2. I DO work on a plan for a new government that does not ignore the the conflict between personal interests and interests of being a leader of people.
3. I AM trying to mobilize people, so I am allowed to ask others to do it too.
4. I do not plan to do anything evil like hurt people or similar stuff. Only losers do need that. Professionals use psychology.
5. I'm just learning this style of psychology right now. So I'm not good at it *yet*. What are you doing?
6. I see you as my friend in the first place, no matter who you are, and even if you do very stupid things.
> Its called voting. Check it out.
Yeah. Right. Let's see:
- Vote for candidate A. See candidate A taking a bribe. Be too weak to start an uprising and rip him out of his golden throne. Get told by an idiot to vote better the next time.
- Vote for candidate B. (May not avaliable in your country.) See candidate B taking a bribe. Be too weak to start an uprising and rip him out of his golden throne. Get told by an idiot to vote better the next time.
- Vote for candidate C. (May not avaliable in your country.) See him not getting enough votes and screaming of what he will change when it is his turn. Watch him become candidate A in the next vote.
Caution: Depending on the country, you can get shot for voting for someone other than candidate A.
Do I have to say more? As long as you're not in a revolutionist (aka "terrorist" aka "pinko" aka whatever) group, planning to overturn this non-working system to replace it by something better (hint: NOT another revolutionist who becomes corrupt too), you are responsible for your leaders. Come on. There are what, 250 million of you? Against what? 250,000? For ONCE be a real american, have something to be proud of, and be a leader. :)
P.S.: Cue the excuses for not acting, so you can accept your own self, in 3... 2... 1...
> my HS cable internet cap (100 GB up+down).
There's your problem. ;)
Truly no cap here in Germany. At least I know huge p2p users that never hit any potential limit.
I hope that soon you can get a cap that is so large that it becomes irrelevant.
Bah. sh with dd...
Butterflies are enough for everyone.