Is that to some extent I think a lot of people out there might consider this a good thing. Every now and again I'll get bored and look at the message boards of some sites I go to, and this seems in many ways a reflection of what I find there. Post after post whining for moderators to lock threads. Many just don't seem to think that discussion with someone whose outlook or beliefs are different will gain them anything, and they're even more against the idea of community moderation instead of having a central authority regulating what can and can not be said. I find it sad that so much of the internet has come to that considering the initial, if somewhat unrealistic in retrospect, ideals of utopian free speech and debate for everyone.
I'm not having any luck either. Mozilla's plugin page gives "audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin RealPlayer Plugin Metafile rpm Yes", but I'm still getting the 'need a plugin' alert when trying to play the videos at comedycentral.com.
I tried linking from the RealPlayer/mozilla and RealPlayer/plugins to the plugins folder in both.mozilla and/usr/lib/mozilla.
This is on Debian Unstable, using the realplayer rpm installed via alien.
If you're talking about the homebrew scene, I couldn't disagree more. There was a little playing around with the leaked SDKs at the very beginning with the dreamcast, but that was pretty much just a flash in the pan for the real work with legal methods. On the contrary, almost everything on the xbox has been done with pirated SDKs, and no one seems to really care about anything other than getting the code out the door.
4.) This technology is not "unimpressive." Only to elitist Slashdot snobs who think XFCE is still a cool idea. The rest of the world wants to move to a modern, 3D-based compositing architecture. Where is that happening in Linux?
Luxury! My grocery market switched to playing a country station last week. I still haven't decided which is worse, starving to death or having to listen to that again.
But the look brought back a lot of memories of my old atari 2600! When it comes to visual design I don't know if I'd qualify that as a good thing, but it was still a bit neat in a way.
I've seen that a lot myself, even with people in their early twenties. I've known more than my share of people who wouldn't even take ibuprofin because they "don't want to take drugs". The whole blanket idea of "drugs are bad, reasons are unimportant, they're just bad" really gets strongly imeshed in a lot of peoples minds when the indoctrination begins at an early age. Because they're not given facts for why they should avoid some drugs, they're not able to properly analyze situations and make a rational choice based on possible outcomes.
What if suddenly I told one of these anti-drug fanatics that something they enjoy doing is now illegal, no matter how "innocent" it seems.
There are times I really think this is becoming more of a religion than something based on logic. We all indulge in unhealthy vices, and as you point out it's questionable if the people proposing these extreme measures would be willing to take them upon themselves if it were their own which was the target. Take overeating for example. Statistically it's far, far more likely that a child will grow up to be obese, especially if the target is switched from the UK to the US. An overstrained heart might kill further down the road, but it'll give just as premature death, and arguably have more of an averse affect on someones activities. The average person in my town is so overweight and lethargic that they seem to find it impossible to participate in anything which does not have sitting as one of the main activities. But, as you point out, that's likely one of their own vices - and therefore off limits.
I'm not sure that I really get where he's coming from. So, making a giant list of things you don't like about gnome, perfectly normal. But actually trying to do something about it other than shoot your mouth off makes one an idiot?
OT: for those who have used gtk-qt from freedesktop.org and thought that it looks crap. Try the cvs version, it is improved. (I have made some changes)
Hey, and it works with azureus now! That really made my day!
Doctors tend not to make comments like, "Man, you would be so dead if I hadn't hacked that cancer. Why'd you go and get cancer anyway? Don't you know smoking does that?
You must hang out with a better class of doctor than me. I've definitely known my share that were fairly rude to their patients.
I'm just hoping any hostile aliens will have primarily female soldiers. If my prior research with our species holds true, they'd walk right by me without another look.
I think your argument is a bit flawed here. A person can in fact legally buy morphine or cocaine if it's being used for a legitimate legal purpose. Unlike with the modchips, the rights of the inocent are being protected.
Not everyone using these for modchips knows much about electronics - I'd go so far as to say they're a distinct minority in fact. The vast majority need help even burning homebrew to cd, let alone putting together and installing a modchip by themselves! Heck, I do a fair amount of coding for consoles and I wouldn't know where to begin if I couldn't just buy a modchip. And while I do agree that the majority of modchips are going to be used for piracy, I think assuming that everyone is guilty as a result is a terrible way to create a law.
Have you ever heard most politicians talk about science? Most of them seem to have about the same gasp of science in general, and technology in particular, as my Grandparents. Combine that with a public which gets most of their scientific knowledge from B-movies, and it wouldn't surprise me to find a politician proposing a bill to ban future robotic overlords.
That's the way I'd hope it'd happen. But it seems like they tried really hard to leave it open so that the position means pretty much that he's allowed to do anything he wants. From staying back and doing paperwork, to taking a swiss army knife and jumping into the gate alone to fight off an invasion. Which I was going to say would be a fairly unrealistic idea, but then I realised I was saying this about a show where people jump through gates to other planets. I think I need to just take my suspension of disbelief up a notch.
I'm not at home right now so do not have the url on hand, but there's a nice script which automates the process. It downloads, installs and configures IE within a vanilla wine install. I didn't use it much beyond a quick test for "hey, that's kinda neat" value, but it seemed to work as well as in windows.
What makes you think he's going to understand the significance of mounting a filesystem even if he knows how to type "man mount" or "mount --help" next time he needs to access a floppy disk?
Why would he have to? Any of the distros that aim themselves for a position as a windows replacement should handle mounting behind the scenes.
There is a massive learning curve involved learning to use linux that reading documentation is not going to help.
That hasn't been my experience. I've helped people in the past move from windows to linux installs, and none of them have ever had any problems. Usually it only took about a half hour or so for them to get used to the different way to install programs and to show what the new program names would be.
you don't need to scour through various sources of documentation to change diapers
I had to have someone show me how best to go about it. I would have liked documentation if I'd gone about a dry run - so to speak.
or what commercials
You say people find documentation annoying and won't be able to put up with it, I'm countering with an example of people putting up with an annoyence if they find the end result worth it.
once you know how, it's easy and no problem.
Which is also my point! Most things are easy once the learning curve is overcome.
in linux, everytime you want to do something new, you have to read through documentation.
How many new things are there going to be? I've given instalation disks to a handfull of people, and it's never taken more than fifteen minutes to get them up to speed. Most of it just comes down to using synaptic, rpmdrake or whatever, and showing them there's somewhere different to get to the control panel. As long as the hardware is all supported Linux these days dosn't have to be rocket science. It's just getting used to a different place to point and click on the little mail icon.
most users do NOT want to spend a whole lot of time reading documentation on how to setup/configure their system, and most find it fustrating.
Most people do NOT want to go to work in the morning, or change diapers, or watch commercials either and find each one of those frustrating. But the end result of each makes it worth it to the person. Don't, and I say this as someone who's been accused of it many times myself, be too elitist. We're not some seperate species gifted at birth with the ability to configure our soundcards. Joe user is quite capeable of plodding his way through a linux for dummies in between setting off fireworks and making his way through another six pack - if he thinks the tradeoff is going to be worth it. He's certainly able to buy a linspire box the next time "the internet breaks" on his current one. And that decision isn't yours to make for him, nor is it mine, it's his own.
I have 8 gmail invites to give away (I can't get rid of them fast enough lol), so if you want one please post your obfuscated email addresses below (logged in members only, preference given to subscribers).
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My high school English teacher had a large banner draped on the side of his classroom. The banner had printed on it, in giant red letters, the words "a lot".
Tell me about it. The local theater where I live is pretty hit and miss about what it gets, more often miss than hit. The nearest good one is two and a half to three hours drive away - so something close to eight hours total taken up for a movie. I'd be thrilled to have the option of just chunking down some money to watch it at home and save the agrivation.
Slashdot Mirror
Is that to some extent I think a lot of people out there might consider this a good thing. Every now and again I'll get bored and look at the message boards of some sites I go to, and this seems in many ways a reflection of what I find there. Post after post whining for moderators to lock threads. Many just don't seem to think that discussion with someone whose outlook or beliefs are different will gain them anything, and they're even more against the idea of community moderation instead of having a central authority regulating what can and can not be said. I find it sad that so much of the internet has come to that considering the initial, if somewhat unrealistic in retrospect, ideals of utopian free speech and debate for everyone.
I'm not having any luck either. Mozilla's plugin page gives "audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin RealPlayer Plugin Metafile rpm Yes", but I'm still getting the 'need a plugin' alert when trying to play the videos at comedycentral.com.
.mozilla and /usr/lib/mozilla.
I tried linking from the RealPlayer/mozilla and RealPlayer/plugins to the plugins folder in both
This is on Debian Unstable, using the realplayer rpm installed via alien.
The xbox is like the Dreamcast 2 in spirit
If you're talking about the homebrew scene, I couldn't disagree more. There was a little playing around with the leaked SDKs at the very beginning with the dreamcast, but that was pretty much just a flash in the pan for the real work with legal methods. On the contrary, almost everything on the xbox has been done with pirated SDKs, and no one seems to really care about anything other than getting the code out the door.
4.) This technology is not "unimpressive." Only to elitist Slashdot snobs who think XFCE is still a cool idea. The rest of the world wants to move to a modern, 3D-based compositing architecture. Where is that happening in Linux?
Looking glass?
The original is good...but I still think you need to get a Gremlin doing it for the full effect.
Luxury! My grocery market switched to playing a country station last week. I still haven't decided which is worse, starving to death or having to listen to that again.
But the look brought back a lot of memories of my old atari 2600! When it comes to visual design I don't know if I'd qualify that as a good thing, but it was still a bit neat in a way.
I've seen that a lot myself, even with people in their early twenties. I've known more than my share of people who wouldn't even take ibuprofin because they "don't want to take drugs". The whole blanket idea of "drugs are bad, reasons are unimportant, they're just bad" really gets strongly imeshed in a lot of peoples minds when the indoctrination begins at an early age. Because they're not given facts for why they should avoid some drugs, they're not able to properly analyze situations and make a rational choice based on possible outcomes.
What if suddenly I told one of these anti-drug fanatics that something they enjoy doing is now illegal, no matter how "innocent" it seems.
There are times I really think this is becoming more of a religion than something based on logic. We all indulge in unhealthy vices, and as you point out it's questionable if the people proposing these extreme measures would be willing to take them upon themselves if it were their own which was the target. Take overeating for example. Statistically it's far, far more likely that a child will grow up to be obese, especially if the target is switched from the UK to the US. An overstrained heart might kill further down the road, but it'll give just as premature death, and arguably have more of an averse affect on someones activities. The average person in my town is so overweight and lethargic that they seem to find it impossible to participate in anything which does not have sitting as one of the main activities. But, as you point out, that's likely one of their own vices - and therefore off limits.
I'm not sure that I really get where he's coming from. So, making a giant list of things you don't like about gnome, perfectly normal. But actually trying to do something about it other than shoot your mouth off makes one an idiot?
OT: for those who have used gtk-qt from freedesktop.org and thought that it looks crap. Try the cvs version, it is improved. (I have made some changes)
Hey, and it works with azureus now! That really made my day!
Doctors tend not to make comments like, "Man, you would be so dead if I hadn't hacked that cancer. Why'd you go and get cancer anyway? Don't you know smoking does that?
You must hang out with a better class of doctor than me. I've definitely known my share that were fairly rude to their patients.
I'm just hoping any hostile aliens will have primarily female soldiers. If my prior research with our species holds true, they'd walk right by me without another look.
I think your argument is a bit flawed here. A person can in fact legally buy morphine or cocaine if it's being used for a legitimate legal purpose. Unlike with the modchips, the rights of the inocent are being protected.
Not everyone using these for modchips knows much about electronics - I'd go so far as to say they're a distinct minority in fact. The vast majority need help even burning homebrew to cd, let alone putting together and installing a modchip by themselves! Heck, I do a fair amount of coding for consoles and I wouldn't know where to begin if I couldn't just buy a modchip. And while I do agree that the majority of modchips are going to be used for piracy, I think assuming that everyone is guilty as a result is a terrible way to create a law.
All of your analogies are wrong. Really, it's like a balloon and...something bad happens.
Have you ever heard most politicians talk about science? Most of them seem to have about the same gasp of science in general, and technology in particular, as my Grandparents. Combine that with a public which gets most of their scientific knowledge from B-movies, and it wouldn't surprise me to find a politician proposing a bill to ban future robotic overlords.
That's the way I'd hope it'd happen. But it seems like they tried really hard to leave it open so that the position means pretty much that he's allowed to do anything he wants. From staying back and doing paperwork, to taking a swiss army knife and jumping into the gate alone to fight off an invasion. Which I was going to say would be a fairly unrealistic idea, but then I realised I was saying this about a show where people jump through gates to other planets. I think I need to just take my suspension of disbelief up a notch.
I'm not at home right now so do not have the url on hand, but there's a nice script which automates the process. It downloads, installs and configures IE within a vanilla wine install. I didn't use it much beyond a quick test for "hey, that's kinda neat" value, but it seemed to work as well as in windows.
What makes you think he's going to understand the significance of mounting a filesystem even if he knows how to type "man mount" or "mount --help" next time he needs to access a floppy disk?
Why would he have to? Any of the distros that aim themselves for a position as a windows replacement should handle mounting behind the scenes.
There is a massive learning curve involved learning to use linux that reading documentation is not going to help.
That hasn't been my experience. I've helped people in the past move from windows to linux installs, and none of them have ever had any problems. Usually it only took about a half hour or so for them to get used to the different way to install programs and to show what the new program names would be.
your argument lacks logic.
That you for starting out with an insulting tone.
you don't need to scour through various sources of documentation to change diapers
I had to have someone show me how best to go about it. I would have liked documentation if I'd gone about a dry run - so to speak.
or what commercials
You say people find documentation annoying and won't be able to put up with it, I'm countering with an example of people putting up with an annoyence if they find the end result worth it.
once you know how, it's easy and no problem.
Which is also my point! Most things are easy once the learning curve is overcome.
in linux, everytime you want to do something new, you have to read through documentation.
How many new things are there going to be? I've given instalation disks to a handfull of people, and it's never taken more than fifteen minutes to get them up to speed. Most of it just comes down to using synaptic, rpmdrake or whatever, and showing them there's somewhere different to get to the control panel. As long as the hardware is all supported Linux these days dosn't have to be rocket science. It's just getting used to a different place to point and click on the little mail icon.
most users do NOT want to spend a whole lot of time reading documentation on how to setup/configure their system, and most find it fustrating.
Most people do NOT want to go to work in the morning, or change diapers, or watch commercials either and find each one of those frustrating. But the end result of each makes it worth it to the person. Don't, and I say this as someone who's been accused of it many times myself, be too elitist. We're not some seperate species gifted at birth with the ability to configure our soundcards. Joe user is quite capeable of plodding his way through a linux for dummies in between setting off fireworks and making his way through another six pack - if he thinks the tradeoff is going to be worth it. He's certainly able to buy a linspire box the next time "the internet breaks" on his current one. And that decision isn't yours to make for him, nor is it mine, it's his own.
I have 8 gmail invites to give away (I can't get rid of them fast enough lol), so if you want one please post your obfuscated email addresses below (logged in members only, preference given to subscribers).
Any chance I could get in on that? joetierney a7t myrealbox.com
My high school English teacher had a large banner draped on the side of his classroom. The banner had printed on it, in giant red letters, the words "a lot".
Tell me about it. The local theater where I live is pretty hit and miss about what it gets, more often miss than hit. The nearest good one is two and a half to three hours drive away - so something close to eight hours total taken up for a movie. I'd be thrilled to have the option of just chunking down some money to watch it at home and save the agrivation.