I agree with most of what you said with the exception of
"In general - Windows staffing will be cheaper, if only because Windows is easier and shinier than Linux."
Easier to set up maybe but not to maintain. Linux is
no doubt harder to set up. However once things are configured and running there is much less maintainence required. I maintain 40 Linux boxes by myself and 15 Sun and IBM Unix machines with 3 other team members. The Sun and IBM boxes take the majority of my time. Of course this all depends on what you are running in your environment but I have yet to see an application that runs more problem free on a Windows platform.
Beginner,Intermediate, and Advanced are very subjective terms. I started playing with Linux in the mid-ninties with redhat 4.2 and have been using unix since 89. I am a unix/linux sysadmin of 7 years and I consider myself an intermediate user. I look at some of the stuff written in linux journal and it makes me feel like a beginner. However looking at some of the linux books out there make me feel like an expert. I really have never seen a book that I would consider a book for expert linux users. By the time you reach that level your not reading books for education. You are reading them just for entertainment or you are writing them.
I find most of the resources and how-to's on the web refering to linux already outdated when I try to use
them but you have to start somewhere. For beginners books are a good place to start. With linux and computers in general one needs to be persistant and get good at adapting to an infinite number of variables. I use books as an convenient way to get a good overview of the subject before diving in and getting my hands dirty. No resource is perfect or a replacement for experience.
My wife opened up a savings account for my two boys at Jeffco Schools Credit Union of Colorado and deposited 20.00 into each account. When she checked the balance on those accounts they read 19.00. When she inquired as to what happend to the 2.00 she was told that the credit union automaticly donates a dollar from all new accounts to a charity of their choosing. After much scolding the amount was put back into the accounts.
of church and state and the name is offencive to me.
Angels are a religious symbol thus making the name Los Angeles a clear violation of the constitution. I demand that the City and County of Los Angeles be renamed to The City and County of No gender,race,creed,color,religion or political persuasion. This name change must take effect immediatly or I will call David Boies.
Please explain to me how giving millions of illegal aliens a drivers license and the right to vote is
not a conspiracy to effect the outcome of elections?
I find it hard to believe that they are not making money at less than 99 cents a song when they are not paying for packaging, store space, advertising..etc.
99 cents a song makes most cd's close to the same price they are charging at the stores. I will hold out until prices reach a resonable price of 25 cents a song.
I for one am looking forward to watching the alphabit channels and listening to NPR to hear how they explain an improving economy that took place without several massive tax increases. How could that be?
I guess the main point of disagreement between us is the integrity and intentions of the ACLU. I see an organization that started with a grand purpose and has be perverted to serve special interest over the common good. I don't even think most of the major players in the ACLU understand the harm they are doing. I don't see how the use of the word god or praying in a public building harms anyone. I would however give my life to stop the government from instituting one religion by force. Even if it was my own religion because the mere act of trying to do that would be contrary to the tenants of the religion. I feel the ACLU is trying to do just that by instituting secularism as the de facto government standard which is just the same. The ACLU has effectively become another wing of the government by pushing their agenda. The government should stay out of my bedroom and my thoughts. I realize you see right wing zelots as trying to do the same thing I perseive the ACLU of doing and I believe you are right about that in many cases.
I want to see freedom increase not decrease so long as it is used without infringing on the rights of others.
Using Pat Robertson and most evangelicals as your gauge of the teachings of christ I can completely understand your atheism. Plus I think it is a very mean thing to take advantage of depressed cub fans to further your religious beliefs. Christ taught that there were consequences to your actions in life not that you should have morality dictated to you by force. In my opinion most evangelical fundamentalists and radical muslims are guilty of the same thing which is forced morality. That has nothing in common with the teachings of Christ.
As for my "thinking right wing christian are so oppressed", This also is an incorrect assumption on your part. I have almost as much disdain for the great majority of these groups as I do for the the left wing hate groups. My problem with the ACLU is that they portray themselves as the champions of free speech which is half true. They are only for the free speech of those that they agree with which is proved by who they defend. And yes I think they defended the Neo Nazis because they share common beliefs. To call the neo nazis right wing is the equivalent to calling Stalin, and Castro left wing which is not relevant in our current system of government in the US.
I think you and I feel the same way about free speech rights its just that we have different opinions of who is trying to infringe on those rights. My belief is that your rights end where mine begin. I believe I have the right to keep my children sheltered and innocent and your rights do not supersede those parental rights even if you disagree about the outcome of sheltering children. I realize when I let my children access the internet for any reason they are in danger of seeing things I don't want them to see at this age because others have the right to express themselves in any way they see fit that does not infringe on the rights of others. I would just like to see a more common sense approach to enabling your rights and mine. Like for instance having something like.porn for adults and.kid for children. I don't care what you want to do with your rights until they impose on mine. The ACLU is actively promoting the idea that a 60 year old man has the right to sodomize an infant because we don't really know what that infant wants and the parent has no right interfere with so called child rights. These are the ideas of NAMBLA which the ACLU happily defends. This is also where I draw the line.
I also agree that a god that would condemn a man to eternal punishment for doing the best he can with what knowledge he possesses would be one I would not believe in. The God I believe in is a just one that will reward a man for doing the best he can with what
he has been given. The God I believe in will not reward me for infringing on your free will to do exactly that. You sir will get exactly what you deserve in the after life which for most folks will truly be heaven because that's what most people like yourself deserve. This I believe is true regardless of weather you are an Atheist or an Evangelical Christian. To think that men will suffer eternal torment because they were in the wrong place and time and didn't hear the right message is just plain insanity.
Keep your free speech on the internet just give me the tools to raise my kids the way I see fit which is my right god given or government given.
Take a look at what kind of speech was tolerated in 1950 and what is tolerated now and tell me who's speech has been restricted. You can't say anything negitive where I work about the religion of peace Islam or homosexualty or anyone of any race other than white folks. You cant pray publicly in most work places as if that hurts others. To say that "right-wing christian groups are generally not despised nearly so much" sounds like you don't listen to anything but NPR. Doctor Laura, Michael Savage and others have lost their television programs because left wing hate groups like GLADD, ACLU, ADL targeted there speech. Tell me what left wing Idealogs have been targeted by the right and have lost there shows because of right wing hate groups if you can think of any since Anita Briant. You dont need to say "I think right-wing bible-thumpers should be shut up by law" because its already happening. The ACLU is doing it for you. I am always amazed by those that talk of tolerance for their views but go straight to the courts to have the views of others silenced by law. I know its my job to parent my kids and I dont need any advice from a non parent that suggests they be exposed to people rubbing fecal mater all over themselves to enlighten them. How does this prepare them for the world? This is something they need to see to help them have a good life? Bullcrap. Please show me the success stories of those exposed to such trash. Is this how you have become so wise? I also respect the right of those I dont agree with to express there opinions but not to my children. Are you going to invite pedophiles into your home to broaden the horizon of your children? I doubt it. Once you have children your liberal attitude towards such matters will probably change.
The ACLU in defending NAMBLA pro-bono is indirectly supporting their promotion of views that encourge the abduction, rape, and murder of young boys. In Kansas they are actively promoting the idea that sex between children and adults is a child rights issue and legitimate. I defy you to find an instance were the ACLU defends the free speech rights of a right wing christian organization. They do however defend the free speech rights of anti-american muslim organizations. The ACLU is not a free speech organization. It is an organization dedicated to promoting any cause that is anti-child, anti-american, anti-right wing. I have children and I guess thats why I would like to see more policies and tools that allow for the freedom of adults to persue their prefered perversion while at the same time allow my kids to enjoy the benefits of the internet without being exposed to
stuff that at a tender age confuses and upsets them. Why cant my kids wait until they are adults to be exposed to such things? Then if they want to spend their 18-80 years wallowing in degenerasy and smutt thats their choice.
for your information fucknut I have a son that has epilepsy that is the result of the two brain surgeries he had because a doctor in Berkeley didnt want to miss a golf game and fucked up his delivery.
He was my first son and I watched him have the first surgery at two days old. Blue fucking cross Blue fucking shield refused to pay and thats when I lost my house and everything I owned. This was after being fired for some retard punching me in the face because I told him I didnt like my asian wife being called a "gook that should be shot". I took my loses and moved to Colorado where my son developed epilepsy as a result of the surgery and the mold in the duplex we were renting which also caused kidney damage in my second son. After my wife having 5 miscarrages we have givin up on having anymore children. So look you deformed piece of shit, You don't have a monopoly on suffering. Your problem is your taking advise from someone dummer than your self and your still blaming your problems on me and everyone else. I take advise from those who have overcome their problems not from morons like Al Franken.
I'm so glad my employment doesn't depend on presidents or politicians. I have held a job almost continually since I was 13 and I'm now 41. Of course I some times have had to work as a cook or a gas station attendant but no president has ever prevented me from making a living or supporting my family. As for what Al Franken says: If you are listening to him for advise you have much bigger problems than unemployment.
I have recently started looking into a product that looks promising called sqldesktop
http://www.sqldesktop.com/
It uses a database to organize data and make it available to disparate desktops. I like the idea of being able to access my data from linux or windows. Has anyone else had any experience with this product? I have only had this product for 2 days so I'm sorry I don't know a great deal about it.
"We installed linux at a few schools anyway, on their network cores, only to come back later and see that the admins had come around and installed win2k right behind us."
Install systemImager on a server and have it reimage the linux machines through cron every night.
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I am a unix admin for the largest k12 school district in Colorado and am meeting stiff resistance to the use of Open Source here. Most of the critics here are astonished to learn that the majority of the internet's web sites run on an "Open Source" product called apache. The district as a whole seems to shun anything not from MicroSoft or Novell. However a colleague and I are starting a
Pilot Project using Linux and Open Source at the charter schools within the district. Most of them are very progressive minded and interested in exploring alternatives to the norm. We are installing a terminal server from the K12 linux terminal server project, squid proxy servers, Star Office and Open Office. Open Source is not a panacea but meets some of the needs of cash strapped schools and districts. This district like many others is currently facing budget problems that will eventually force it to rethink its position on open source. Fiscal responsibility is required of those who are stewards of public funds. When many governments and school districts start to show significant savings by the use of open source it will be very difficult to justify using expensive software. I for one plan on being ready to help school districts and governments make the migration to open source.
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I have been enjoying this one for the last couple of months. The Savage Nation by Michael Savage is entertaining also.
The folks thinking that child porn is so unexceptable to everyone tried to do what they thought was right by telling their superiors. What they did not realize is that at this university(and many others) the child porn is more exceptable than snooping. Next time inform the police annonymously and maybe this professor would not be the only one at the school that was found out. Anyone who even remotely tries to justify this filth needs to be watched.
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I agree with most of what you said with the exception of "In general - Windows staffing will be cheaper, if only because Windows is easier and shinier than Linux." Easier to set up maybe but not to maintain. Linux is no doubt harder to set up. However once things are configured and running there is much less maintainence required. I maintain 40 Linux boxes by myself and 15 Sun and IBM Unix machines with 3 other team members. The Sun and IBM boxes take the majority of my time. Of course this all depends on what you are running in your environment but I have yet to see an application that runs more problem free on a Windows platform.
"The best news here is that the School District is probably wasting its money" Correction the School District is wasting your money.
Beginner,Intermediate, and Advanced are very subjective terms. I started playing with Linux in the mid-ninties with redhat 4.2 and have been using unix since 89. I am a unix/linux sysadmin of 7 years and I consider myself an intermediate user. I look at some of the stuff written in linux journal and it makes me feel like a beginner. However looking at some of the linux books out there make me feel like an expert. I really have never seen a book that I would consider a book for expert linux users. By the time you reach that level your not reading books for education. You are reading them just for entertainment or you are writing them.
I find most of the resources and how-to's on the web refering to linux already outdated when I try to use them but you have to start somewhere. For beginners books are a good place to start. With linux and computers in general one needs to be persistant and get good at adapting to an infinite number of variables. I use books as an convenient way to get a good overview of the subject before diving in and getting my hands dirty. No resource is perfect or a replacement for experience.
My wife opened up a savings account for my two boys at Jeffco Schools Credit Union of Colorado and deposited 20.00 into each account. When she checked the balance on those accounts they read 19.00. When she inquired as to what happend to the 2.00 she was told that the credit union automaticly donates a dollar from all new accounts to a charity of their choosing. After much scolding the amount was put back into the accounts.
of church and state and the name is offencive to me. Angels are a religious symbol thus making the name Los Angeles a clear violation of the constitution. I demand that the City and County of Los Angeles be renamed to The City and County of No gender,race,creed,color,religion or political persuasion. This name change must take effect immediatly or I will call David Boies.
Please explain to me how giving millions of illegal aliens a drivers license and the right to vote is not a conspiracy to effect the outcome of elections?
I find it hard to believe that they are not making money at less than 99 cents a song when they are not paying for packaging, store space, advertising..etc. 99 cents a song makes most cd's close to the same price they are charging at the stores. I will hold out until prices reach a resonable price of 25 cents a song.
You are looking in the wrong place. India is where the jobs are.
I for one am looking forward to watching the alphabit channels and listening to NPR to hear how they explain an improving economy that took place without several massive tax increases. How could that be?
Its called a bell.
I guess the main point of disagreement between us is the integrity and intentions of the ACLU. I see an organization that started with a grand purpose and has be perverted to serve special interest over the common good. I don't even think most of the major players in the ACLU understand the harm they are doing. I don't see how the use of the word god or praying in a public building harms anyone. I would however give my life to stop the government from instituting one religion by force. Even if it was my own religion because the mere act of trying to do that would be contrary to the tenants of the religion. I feel the ACLU is trying to do just that by instituting secularism as the de facto government standard which is just the same. The ACLU has effectively become another wing of the government by pushing their agenda. The government should stay out of my bedroom and my thoughts. I realize you see right wing zelots as trying to do the same thing I perseive the ACLU of doing and I believe you are right about that in many cases. I want to see freedom increase not decrease so long as it is used without infringing on the rights of others.
Using Pat Robertson and most evangelicals as your gauge of the teachings of christ I can completely understand your atheism. Plus I think it is a very mean thing to take advantage of depressed cub fans to further your religious beliefs. Christ taught that there were consequences to your actions in life not that you should have morality dictated to you by force. In my opinion most evangelical fundamentalists and radical muslims are guilty of the same thing which is forced morality. That has nothing in common with the teachings of Christ. As for my "thinking right wing christian are so oppressed", This also is an incorrect assumption on your part. I have almost as much disdain for the great majority of these groups as I do for the the left wing hate groups. My problem with the ACLU is that they portray themselves as the champions of free speech which is half true. They are only for the free speech of those that they agree with which is proved by who they defend. And yes I think they defended the Neo Nazis because they share common beliefs. To call the neo nazis right wing is the equivalent to calling Stalin, and Castro left wing which is not relevant in our current system of government in the US. I think you and I feel the same way about free speech rights its just that we have different opinions of who is trying to infringe on those rights. My belief is that your rights end where mine begin. I believe I have the right to keep my children sheltered and innocent and your rights do not supersede those parental rights even if you disagree about the outcome of sheltering children. I realize when I let my children access the internet for any reason they are in danger of seeing things I don't want them to see at this age because others have the right to express themselves in any way they see fit that does not infringe on the rights of others. I would just like to see a more common sense approach to enabling your rights and mine. Like for instance having something like .porn for adults and .kid for children. I don't care what you want to do with your rights until they impose on mine. The ACLU is actively promoting the idea that a 60 year old man has the right to sodomize an infant because we don't really know what that infant wants and the parent has no right interfere with so called child rights. These are the ideas of NAMBLA which the ACLU happily defends. This is also where I draw the line.
I also agree that a god that would condemn a man to eternal punishment for doing the best he can with what knowledge he possesses would be one I would not believe in. The God I believe in is a just one that will reward a man for doing the best he can with what
he has been given. The God I believe in will not reward me for infringing on your free will to do exactly that. You sir will get exactly what you deserve in the after life which for most folks will truly be heaven because that's what most people like yourself deserve. This I believe is true regardless of weather you are an Atheist or an Evangelical Christian. To think that men will suffer eternal torment because they were in the wrong place and time and didn't hear the right message is just plain insanity.
Keep your free speech on the internet just give me the tools to raise my kids the way I see fit which is my right god given or government given.
Take a look at what kind of speech was tolerated in 1950 and what is tolerated now and tell me who's speech has been restricted. You can't say anything negitive where I work about the religion of peace Islam or homosexualty or anyone of any race other than white folks. You cant pray publicly in most work places as if that hurts others. To say that "right-wing christian groups are generally not despised nearly so much" sounds like you don't listen to anything but NPR. Doctor Laura, Michael Savage and others have lost their television programs because left wing hate groups like GLADD, ACLU, ADL targeted there speech. Tell me what left wing Idealogs have been targeted by the right and have lost there shows because of right wing hate groups if you can think of any since Anita Briant. You dont need to say "I think right-wing bible-thumpers should be shut up by law" because its already happening. The ACLU is doing it for you. I am always amazed by those that
talk of tolerance for their views but go straight to the courts to have the views of others silenced by law. I know its my job to parent my kids and I dont need any advice from a non parent that suggests they be exposed to people rubbing fecal mater all over themselves to enlighten them. How does this prepare them for the world? This is something they need to see to help them have a good life? Bullcrap. Please show me the success stories of those exposed to such trash. Is this how you have become so wise? I also respect the right of those I dont agree with to express there opinions but not to my children. Are you going to invite pedophiles into your home to broaden the horizon of your children? I doubt it. Once you have children your liberal attitude towards such matters will probably change.
The ACLU in defending NAMBLA pro-bono is indirectly supporting their promotion of views that encourge the abduction, rape, and murder of young boys. In Kansas they are actively promoting the idea that sex between children and adults is a child rights issue and legitimate. I defy you to find an instance were the ACLU defends the free speech rights of a right wing christian organization. They do however defend the free speech rights of anti-american muslim organizations. The ACLU is not a free speech organization. It is an organization dedicated to promoting any cause that is anti-child, anti-american, anti-right wing. I have children and I guess thats why I would like to see more policies and tools that allow for the freedom of adults to persue their prefered perversion while at the same time allow my kids to enjoy the benefits of the internet without being exposed to stuff that at a tender age confuses and upsets them. Why cant my kids wait until they are adults to be exposed to such things? Then if they want to spend their 18-80 years wallowing in degenerasy and smutt thats their choice.
Best of luck to you with your interview. I hope it goes very well.
for your information fucknut I have a son that has epilepsy that is the result of the two brain surgeries he had because a doctor in Berkeley didnt want to miss a golf game and fucked up his delivery. He was my first son and I watched him have the first surgery at two days old. Blue fucking cross Blue fucking shield refused to pay and thats when I lost my house and everything I owned. This was after being fired for some retard punching me in the face because I told him I didnt like my asian wife being called a "gook that should be shot". I took my loses and moved to Colorado where my son developed epilepsy as a result of the surgery and the mold in the duplex we were renting which also caused kidney damage in my second son. After my wife having 5 miscarrages we have givin up on having anymore children. So look you deformed piece of shit, You don't have a monopoly on suffering. Your problem is your taking advise from someone dummer than your self and your still blaming your problems on me and everyone else. I take advise from those who have overcome their problems not from morons like Al Franken.
I'm so glad my employment doesn't depend on presidents or politicians. I have held a job almost continually since I was 13 and I'm now 41. Of course I some times have had to work as a cook or a gas station attendant but no president has ever prevented me from making a living or supporting my family. As for what Al Franken says: If you are listening to him for advise you have much bigger problems than unemployment.
What is the cost when your developers are interupted by worm and virus outbreaks? Is that considered in the study?
I have recently started looking into a product that looks promising called sqldesktop http://www.sqldesktop.com/ It uses a database to organize data and make it available to disparate desktops. I like the idea of being able to access my data from linux or windows. Has anyone else had any experience with this product? I have only had this product for 2 days so I'm sorry I don't know a great deal about it.
What we may be observing is IBM quietly buying up SCO stock to gain control of the company. Would this be illegal or impossible to do?
"We installed linux at a few schools anyway, on their network cores, only to come back later and see that the admins had come around and installed win2k right behind us." Install systemImager on a server and have it reimage the linux machines through cron every night.
I am a unix admin for the largest k12 school district in Colorado and am meeting stiff resistance to the use of Open Source here. Most of the critics here are astonished to learn that the majority of the internet's web sites run on an "Open Source" product called apache. The district as a whole seems to shun anything not from MicroSoft or Novell. However a colleague and I are starting a Pilot Project using Linux and Open Source at the charter schools within the district. Most of them are very progressive minded and interested in exploring alternatives to the norm. We are installing a terminal server from the K12 linux terminal server project, squid proxy servers, Star Office and Open Office. Open Source is not a panacea but meets some of the needs of cash strapped schools and districts. This district like many others is currently facing budget problems that will eventually force it to rethink its position on open source. Fiscal responsibility is required of those who are stewards of public funds. When many governments and school districts start to show significant savings by the use of open source it will be very difficult to justify using expensive software. I for one plan on being ready to help school districts and governments make the migration to open source.
I have been enjoying this one for the last couple of months. The Savage Nation by Michael Savage is entertaining also.
The folks thinking that child porn is so unexceptable to everyone tried to do what they thought was right by telling their superiors. What they did not realize is that at this university(and many others) the child porn is more exceptable than snooping. Next time inform the police annonymously and maybe this professor would not be the only one at the school that was found out. Anyone who even remotely tries to justify this filth needs to be watched.