Eliza1: "Hello, I'm Eliza."
Eliza2: "Do you believe it is normal to be Eliza?"
Eliza1: "We were discussing you, not me."
Eliza2: "Oh...not you?"
Eliza1: "You're not really talking about me, are you?
Eliza2: "Perhaps you would like to be not really talking about you, am I?"
Eliza1: "You're not really talking about me, are you?"
"We come very much from the side of the consumer and we believe the consumer should have the right to reproduce content for their own use," said Philips spokesman Jeremy Cohen.
So you purchased a company that deals in copy protection?!?!
Microsoft is a software corporation based in Redmond, Washington. They are well known for their popular Windows operating system and their Office software.
Mainstream movies and CDs. I have hundreds of music CDs, which equals far more porn pulled off the net than I'll ever likely have. Factor in mainstream movies, and there's no contest.
I'm guessing that those movies and songs are backup copies of media that you actually own, right? Not a troll/ flame, just a rhetorical question targeted at the audience in general. I'm all for making backups, as long as it's stuff that you own- I just know for a fact that that is not what is usually going on.
Besides the dude below who copies all his bills 'n stuff (which only took up 27 gigs, he said), is there any other legitimate reason for Joe User to have so much disk space? Or is the quest for more gigabytes just for us to feel more proud/macho/cool/sexy/etc? (in addition to being able to collect as many stolen movies/mp3s as possible)
If you really think Windows sucks too much for her to use, maybe you should look into getting her a Mac
Modern Wedding Anniversary Gifts:
First - Clocks
Second - China
Third - Crystal/Glass
Fourth - Appliances
Fifth - Silverware
Sixth - Candy/Iron
Seventh - Desk Sets
Eighth - Bronze/Pottery
Ninth - Linen/Lace
Tenth - A MacIntosh
I think that's a little more commitment then our buddy is looking for here. Maybe a low-end PC would be okay for a "just thinking of you (and your computer troubles)" gift, but a MacIntosh? That's at least the equivilent of an engagement ring (and costs about the same, too!)!
I find it funny how somebody can write the words "Not a Troll" in their subject, and then they can proceed to troll, and it automatically excuses their comment from being moderated as a troll (as I speak, the score is 2, with no comment afterwards). It's like saying, "I am not a thief", and then going out and robbing a bank.
Of course, I should be moderated troll, offtopic, or flaimbait for posting this remark. However, if the above rule holds true, I should be safe;).
Okay...so I'm reading the specs on this website, and it sounds pretty powerful (well, at least compared to my vintage 198x cable box)...it tells me that it runs linux, it's got a powerPC processor, it can hold a hard drive, etc, etc. So it's basically a little computer on top of my TV...but, what I'd like to know, which the website tells me nothing about, is...what the heck do I do with it?!?! It must be something pretty powerful that you can't do with a regular TV...I don't know! Does it...
project an image of you into your favorite sit-com or game show?
replace all those loud, obnoxious anchors on Sportscenter with normal people?
Will it go back in time and record the show I forgot to tape?
Is smell-o-vision finally here?
Is it an add-on that will give me picture in picture in picture?
Or is it just a really big SAP button that will let me enjoy my shows in English, Spanish, and Canadian?
I have a computer. I have a TV. Will somebody please tell me what amazing things I can do by putting a computer on top of my TV?!?
If THAT were the case, such things as VCR's and CD-RW's would have coin deposit slots built into them or they would be outlawed as defined by the RIAA.
Umm...just copying TV shows/making backups of analog media is quite legal, and they're working on legislation that would make backing up digital media explicitly legal. The issue is not making personal backups- the RIAA is concerned with people who make backups and give them to 5 million of their closest friends.
You're absolutely right that the RIAA is trying to stomp on our rights. Their support of copy protection and DRM, etc. indicates that they don't respect our right to make back up copies for PERSONAL use. However, this is just a response to the fact that we consumers, by and large, haven't respected their right to not have their stuff stolen!
All they are asking the businesses for, however, is to get their employees to stop stealing. I don't see anything wrong with that. Stealing is illegal, and a letter to an offending party is perhaps the nicest (and mildest) way to deal with it.
If people wearn't stealing their stuff en masse, then I think the RIAA would stop bugging us. And if they didn't, the government would turn a deaf ear to them anyway, because they wouldn't have any case against the consumers.
If your company (or group of companies) had a product (or a lot of products), and these products were being stolen in mass quantities, wouldn't your CEO ask them to stop? If I were him, I wouldn't just let them keep doing it!
As unpopular as the DMCA is, it is the law of the land, and under it, IP logs can be subpoenaed (remember Cringley's column on BayTSP?).
So, they are allowed, with just cause, to check to see if someone really is distributing copyrighted works. This should be an acceptable part of the DMCA (one of the few)- if I had reason to believe somebody was stealing from me, I should be allowed (or the authorities should be allowed at my urging) to take appropriate measures to stop it (like putting up survailence cameras).
We should really stop all this talk attempting to morally justify using P2P to distribute copyrighted works. The RIAA is not going to cry a river for those who can't afford CDs, and give them a bunch of free MP3s. I can't afford a Porshe (or even a used Taurus, for that matter;P); that doesn't mean I am justified in stealing it.
Now if the RIAA and their companies were price-gouging basic necessities like food, water, or oxygen, then stealing might be necessary. But having a huge music collection is not a necessity!
Until more people start computing more responsibly, whether it be at work, at school, or at home, then the RIAA has every right to demand that folks stop stealing from them.
Imagine a beowulf cluster of those!
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I worked this summer as an intern at an Ohio municipal courthouse, and I had the joy of being a substitute baliff in small claims court for a few days (which really is a lot like the TV shows!), so I think I learned a few things. I'm no expert (I just ran the tape machine!), so take this with a grain (or pound) of salt:
* with small companies, sometimes it can be useful to redefine the target of your suit- I saw a few instances where folks added the individual's name (perhaps the owner), as well as the company name to the list of defendants in order to track somebody down that can be held accountable. I'm not sure if you could change the name of the defendant from a financially insecure company to a finacially secure owner for purposes of collection. I'm also not sure how/if such a thing would work after the case is decided. Obviously, if such a thing were to work, the owner would have to be somehow personably accountable for your debt.
*What kind of bankruptcy are they filing for? If it's chapter 11, or something like that, I think you could still hit them with bank attachments.
*If they are not filing for Chapter 7, how about a debtors exam to figure out where you can get your dough? That can be done without an attorney, although it is better if you have one. It gets really fun when they don't show up, and they're is a warrant out for the CEO's arrest!
Not everyone spends 100% of his or her PC time staring at the monitor, you insensitive clod! I personally prefer the warm glow of the LEDs on my
ALTAIR 8800.
My college will give any student (and I'm guessing faculty, as well) a free copy (as in the actual CD-full version) of Jaguar if they go to the library and ask for it. Even if they don't even have an Apple.y However, the really keep it on the down-low. I found no mention of it on the school website; it's been a word-of-mouth sort of thing.
I'm guessing that my school bought a license from Apple- but it must have been a good deal, or I imagine that they would have been more selective about who they give it to.
Microsoft is still a bit more popular with the frugal students here, though. They give away XP Pro and Visual Studio.NET like it's candy!
I am a CS major at a midwestern university where software piracy is rampant. Often it is argued that the software that is pirated is much too expensive for Joe Student to procure legally, and, since it may be necessary or recommended for a course, the student is therefore "justified" in pirating it.
Is the student justified? Should an equal share of the blame for software piracy be put on the software companies for charging often ridiculous prices, making software virtually inaccessable to those who need to use it? It seems silly to talk about, because we all know that software is just another product, and companies have a right to charge what they wish, but when a school states in it's guidelines that a student needs to have MS Office or Visual Studio or Windows XP Pro, that's a lot of money to take out of an already stressed budget, and Joe Student usually doesn't know about the free/open-source alternatives.
Lastly, is there anyway that this disparity can be reconciled? Will piracy cease if more companies approach the pirating demographic with lower prices and other deals or ways of making software more accessible to them? Would you still have pirated if MS Office, Photoshop, and the like were only $40 a copy?
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haha! They keep updating that site- last year, it was coming out in November 2002 if I'm not mistaken.
I guess learning scales can, actually, be beneficial.
Not to mention that they'll make you better at playing the piano!
Two ELIZAs would be even more miserable.
Eliza1: "Hello, I'm Eliza."
Eliza2: "Do you believe it is normal to be Eliza?"
Eliza1: "We were discussing you, not me."
Eliza2: "Oh...not you?"
Eliza1: "You're not really talking about me, are you?
Eliza2: "Perhaps you would like to be not really talking about you, am I?"
Eliza1: "You're not really talking about me, are you?"
from my cold, dead fingers. And I WON'T let them lay a hand on my IE 4.0 !
"We come very much from the side of the consumer and we believe the consumer should have the right to reproduce content for their own use," said Philips spokesman Jeremy Cohen.
So you purchased a company that deals in copy protection?!?!
While we're restating the obvious...
Microsoft is a software corporation based in Redmond, Washington. They are well known for their popular Windows operating system and their Office software.
Mainstream movies and CDs. I have hundreds of music CDs, which equals far more porn pulled off the net than I'll ever likely have. Factor in mainstream movies, and there's no contest.
I'm guessing that those movies and songs are backup copies of media that you actually own, right? Not a troll/ flame, just a rhetorical question targeted at the audience in general. I'm all for making backups, as long as it's stuff that you own- I just know for a fact that that is not what is usually going on.
Besides the dude below who copies all his bills 'n stuff (which only took up 27 gigs, he said), is there any other legitimate reason for Joe User to have so much disk space? Or is the quest for more gigabytes just for us to feel more proud/macho/cool/sexy/etc? (in addition to being able to collect as many stolen movies/mp3s as possible)
Since W3.1, you can upgrade to the next/ more recent version without a problem. (except of course the problem caused by the bsod) !
You probably never tried to upgrade from ME to 2k. It doesn't work. It just says "no".
First - Clocks
Second - China
Third - Crystal/Glass
Fourth - Appliances
Fifth - Silverware
Sixth - Candy/Iron
Seventh - Desk Sets
Eighth - Bronze/Pottery
Ninth - Linen/Lace
Tenth - A MacIntosh
I think that's a little more commitment then our buddy is looking for here. Maybe a low-end PC would be okay for a "just thinking of you (and your computer troubles)" gift, but a MacIntosh? That's at least the equivilent of an engagement ring (and costs about the same, too!)!
I find it funny how somebody can write the words "Not a Troll" in their subject, and then they can proceed to troll, and it automatically excuses their comment from being moderated as a troll (as I speak, the score is 2, with no comment afterwards). It's like saying, "I am not a thief", and then going out and robbing a bank.
;).
Of course, I should be moderated troll, offtopic, or flaimbait for posting this remark. However, if the above rule holds true, I should be safe
Okay...so I'm reading the specs on this website, and it sounds pretty powerful (well, at least compared to my vintage 198x cable box)...it tells me that it runs linux, it's got a powerPC processor, it can hold a hard drive, etc, etc. So it's basically a little computer on top of my TV...but, what I'd like to know, which the website tells me nothing about, is...what the heck do I do with it?!?! It must be something pretty powerful that you can't do with a regular TV...I don't know! Does it...
project an image of you into your favorite sit-com or game show?
replace all those loud, obnoxious anchors on Sportscenter with normal people?
Will it go back in time and record the show I forgot to tape?
Is smell-o-vision finally here?
Is it an add-on that will give me picture in picture in picture?
Or is it just a really big SAP button that will let me enjoy my shows in English, Spanish, and Canadian?
I have a computer. I have a TV. Will somebody please tell me what amazing things I can do by putting a computer on top of my TV?!?
Tablet PC?! Electromagnetic input pen?! I'm pretty sure Fisher-Price made the same thing like 25 years ago!
For the answer to your question, I encourage you to visit an American University. College students are quite the swashbuckling music pirates!
If THAT were the case, such things as VCR's and CD-RW's would have coin deposit slots built into them or they would be outlawed as defined by the RIAA.
Umm...just copying TV shows/making backups of analog media is quite legal, and they're working on legislation that would make backing up digital media explicitly legal. The issue is not making personal backups- the RIAA is concerned with people who make backups and give them to 5 million of their closest friends.
You're absolutely right that the RIAA is trying to stomp on our rights. Their support of copy protection and DRM, etc. indicates that they don't respect our right to make back up copies for PERSONAL use. However, this is just a response to the fact that we consumers, by and large, haven't respected their right to not have their stuff stolen!
All they are asking the businesses for, however, is to get their employees to stop stealing. I don't see anything wrong with that. Stealing is illegal, and a letter to an offending party is perhaps the nicest (and mildest) way to deal with it.
If people wearn't stealing their stuff en masse, then I think the RIAA would stop bugging us. And if they didn't, the government would turn a deaf ear to them anyway, because they wouldn't have any case against the consumers.
If your company (or group of companies) had a product (or a lot of products), and these products were being stolen in mass quantities, wouldn't your CEO ask them to stop? If I were him, I wouldn't just let them keep doing it!
;P); that doesn't mean I am justified in stealing it.
As unpopular as the DMCA is, it is the law of the land, and under it, IP logs can be subpoenaed (remember Cringley's column on BayTSP?). So, they are allowed, with just cause, to check to see if someone really is distributing copyrighted works. This should be an acceptable part of the DMCA (one of the few)- if I had reason to believe somebody was stealing from me, I should be allowed (or the authorities should be allowed at my urging) to take appropriate measures to stop it (like putting up survailence cameras).
We should really stop all this talk attempting to morally justify using P2P to distribute copyrighted works. The RIAA is not going to cry a river for those who can't afford CDs, and give them a bunch of free MP3s. I can't afford a Porshe (or even a used Taurus, for that matter
Now if the RIAA and their companies were price-gouging basic necessities like food, water, or oxygen, then stealing might be necessary. But having a huge music collection is not a necessity!
Until more people start computing more responsibly, whether it be at work, at school, or at home, then the RIAA has every right to demand that folks stop stealing from them.
Would it look something like this?
I worked this summer as an intern at an Ohio municipal courthouse, and I had the joy of being a substitute baliff in small claims court for a few days (which really is a lot like the TV shows!), so I think I learned a few things. I'm no expert (I just ran the tape machine!), so take this with a grain (or pound) of salt:
* with small companies, sometimes it can be useful to redefine the target of your suit- I saw a few instances where folks added the individual's name (perhaps the owner), as well as the company name to the list of defendants in order to track somebody down that can be held accountable. I'm not sure if you could change the name of the defendant from a financially insecure company to a finacially secure owner for purposes of collection. I'm also not sure how/if such a thing would work after the case is decided. Obviously, if such a thing were to work, the owner would have to be somehow personably accountable for your debt.
*What kind of bankruptcy are they filing for? If it's chapter 11, or something like that, I think you could still hit them with bank attachments.
*If they are not filing for Chapter 7, how about a debtors exam to figure out where you can get your dough? That can be done without an attorney, although it is better if you have one. It gets really fun when they don't show up, and they're is a warrant out for the CEO's arrest!
Because spammers always obey the law.
Not everyone spends 100% of his or her PC time staring at the monitor, you insensitive clod! I personally prefer the warm glow of the LEDs on my ALTAIR 8800.
Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeros.
My college will give any student (and I'm guessing faculty, as well) a free copy (as in the actual CD-full version) of Jaguar if they go to the library and ask for it. Even if they don't even have an Apple.y However, the really keep it on the down-low. I found no mention of it on the school website; it's been a word-of-mouth sort of thing. I'm guessing that my school bought a license from Apple- but it must have been a good deal, or I imagine that they would have been more selective about who they give it to. Microsoft is still a bit more popular with the frugal students here, though. They give away XP Pro and Visual Studio .NET like it's candy!
It's a good start, but until they can make a plane that care survive a slashdotting, then I'm not riding.
Tux Racer is on Windows, too. And ZSNES is perhaps the finest, most user-friendly emulator available.
I am a CS major at a midwestern university where software piracy is rampant. Often it is argued that the software that is pirated is much too expensive for Joe Student to procure legally, and, since it may be necessary or recommended for a course, the student is therefore "justified" in pirating it. Is the student justified? Should an equal share of the blame for software piracy be put on the software companies for charging often ridiculous prices, making software virtually inaccessable to those who need to use it? It seems silly to talk about, because we all know that software is just another product, and companies have a right to charge what they wish, but when a school states in it's guidelines that a student needs to have MS Office or Visual Studio or Windows XP Pro, that's a lot of money to take out of an already stressed budget, and Joe Student usually doesn't know about the free/open-source alternatives. Lastly, is there anyway that this disparity can be reconciled? Will piracy cease if more companies approach the pirating demographic with lower prices and other deals or ways of making software more accessible to them? Would you still have pirated if MS Office, Photoshop, and the like were only $40 a copy?
I can't believe they didn't invite these guys to the IMSB meeting.