I would really like to know, as IANAL, where the Law really prohibits sharing of files like this? Forgive my ignorance here, but my understanding of copyright law (as minimal as it is) is that the act of copying and sharing is not illegal, but the act of copying and selling is, mainly for the reason of damages... Where as copying and sharing as to my knowledge never been shown in court to cause damages...
I am currently in a copyright infringement lawsuit, and the maximum statutory damages is $500 - $10,000. In my case, a few images were printed in a book, and the plaintiff has been unable to prove any damages (not unlike the RIAA) has claimed multi $100k's worth of damage... So if individuals only copy a few files in their life, there's no way true damages could ever be proved against an individual in P2P...
So from that viewpoint, P2P is legal, but piracy (selling copied copyright'd works) is illegal. Again, IANAL, so if anyone has some straight solid case law or something to prove me wrong here, or simple knowledge of Law, I'd like to know...
1) Modifying your name by just a few letters each time you fill out a suspicious form.
2) Note in a personal log a) the changes you made to your name b) where it was sent.
3) Anytime you get junk mail or phone calls that misspell/mispronounce your name, check your log and see where the source of their info came from.
4) Complain viciously to some rights organization, the originating company or proper government office or official...
Not sure if it will work, I just started doing this. This technique works very well for email and online forms as well to track information... always interesting to see if those privacy statements are actually adhered to...
It would be nice to think the Government cares about us little people getting "annoyed" with marketing calls, it seems it takes something more sinister to get a law like this through... I don't see how it will help though other than make folks aware of the difference between a con artist and a true salesman...
Sorry to say this folks, but the phone marketing people may be right about this one, all it will do is stop legitimate phone sales calls coming in...but the stuff that is really bad ($40 billion a year bad) will simply ignore the dumb list, or worse yet, abuse it, as so many people have pointed out... ugh.
I would hardly call "turning off activeX" and cranking up the default security settings to "high" as actually "locking down a computer" in a bad way...
If you need active activated to view a website, then use mozilla... too bad for MS...
Also, "new features" as you have referred to them are often times things like "MS now has a back door to your XP box so it can update your software for you", nice feature, I am sure there is no security problems with it nor are there any bugs included in this part of the upgrade...
As far as flexibility goes for the normal Joe (which is basically the mass of virus spreaders and zombie owners) they check emaila and surf, maybe play games, why do you need "flexible" and buggy software to do that?
My brain can do 330 trillion calculations per second, ha, I can even do 700 trillion on a decent day, but I just choose not too... will this new computer have similar flaws?
Just pull an enron, dump the corporation of salon.COM and startup salon.[whatever] and *voila* instant success... Give me $100 k and I could run Salon.org for you... I've got a basement and plenty of friends that know how to rite, and they spells reel good to..
Sure, every person online has the perfect anti-spam tool, it's that strange cable plugged into the back of your modem... all those nasty spams get into your computer with it, just pull it out *presto* no more spam...
Maybe you can tell me this, everyone else on slashdot (including it seems mr taco) is so delusioned over the values of the xbox...
1) Is it bad or good for microsoft to buy an Xbox? (yes or no, then why)
2) If you hack it, does it make you buying an xbox a bad thing for Microsoft?
3) If there are better systems out there to do what you want it to do (play dvd's, pvr, media coucil, etc...) then how can your motivation to buy an xbox be anything other than sheer hacking curiosity or to hurt microsoft? (is there a third reason?)
4) If your only goal is hurt Microsoft, why do you think buying something from them (reguardless on how much they loose on it) will achieve your goal?
5) If you are only trying to hurt a company, aren't you doing the same thing Microsoft does?
6) If you really want an xbox that runs linux, isn't that simply pointless from a reality stand point? (as this is similar to converting a semi truck to run on electric power, it's cleaner, better in some regards, but doesn't do what it's made to do anymore...so looses it's inherent value)
7) If your motivation is purly hacking oriented, are you sadistic or is there really a value in hacking this thing?
8) If you do hack it, the only way you can get any value out of one is to buy it... (go back to question 1)
Now while I'm no fan of MS, do we really need to have stories everytime someone accueses Microsoft of having poor security? Might as well dedicate an entire section of Slashdot to their exploits.
Let me quote and old adage...
"It's illegal for MS because they are an illegal monopoly."
aka they broke the _law_
aka, they are corporate criminals running loose and free.
hence...
"Any and all bad adervising, spreading the truth of their lies, deceit and overall FUD, is not only enjoyed by the public in general but is required of any and all news media willing to stand up against such a great foe that even our esteemed Government's iron knees buckled too."
Every poor and technically ignorant sole out there that steps into the false sense of security net that MS has laid is at risk and the _only_ line of defense for them is a devout and courageous band of do-gooding geeks online...
We really need a "America's most wanted Corporation" website/TV show... not hard to find MS, when you do, avoid it like the plague... If you or your system has already been infected and you need the disease to do your work, then stick on the band-aids, grab your crutches and keep on marching until the tide turns baby!
For all you out there that wine and complain that the MPAA or [name evil media corporation here] is abusing it's consumers/customers/sheep,... by all means buy and enjoy.:)
There is enough time for the industry to lobby for tougher sanctions. The Commission's draft directive has to pass the European Parliament and the European Union's Council of Ministers before it is officially adopted.
I would _love_ an alternative to to win2k, _especially_ if I can have it on all my machines in my office and my network will stay up.
One big beef with win2k is that I have to unplug and plug my ether cords from my machines to get the other machines to see it on the network
Even worse is the the slow constant decay of performance between each reinstall of the system...
also I want to have a reason to _never ever in a million gazillion years_ upgrade to another 1984-orwellian-draconian-upload-patches-upload-bre aks-upload-more-patches-hunk-o-piece-o-garbage-OS_ ever again, like winXP...
[chant with me} No More Flare Over Security And Stability! No More Pretty Buttons and Animated Garbarge over Performance! No More Filthy Trash EULAs! *ahem* sorry, got carried away there...
("I am sorry mr MS tech support, I just don't have time to read all the if ands or buts, I just need my computer to be mine... and please stop breaking it or support some competition that will...stop breaking it I mean, like my computer... and stuff")
Why do all just assume this is ok? Why make something (coffee for instance) that our bodies automatically reject as disgusting and vile and make it taste good?
[WARNING: conspiracy rant coming up]
People really need to read into the source of money regarding caffine. I don't know of any coffee grown in the USA for one. Also coffee has been _proven_ to cause everything from instant heart-attacks in completely young and healthy people to all kinds of circulatory and immmune based diseases.
This knowledge has been stuffed and perverted by bizzare "scientific" testing funded by an almost hidden caffine industry.
Facts:
1) Caffine is addictive
2) No law requires the amount of caffine in a product (coke, pepsi, medicine, kids foods, etc...) to be labeled. (this is insane. For you law biters out there, look into this one, it makes perverse media laws for the RIAA look like childs play...)
3) Many medications have extreme reactions to caffine (many causing death) but very, very few doctors ask their patients if they even ingest caffine let alone warn them of the risks.
4) Caffine takes a long time to leave your system, therefore has a cumulative effect of build up, and can cause liver damage due to the overload. (which like a domino effect can crush the rest of your health)
5) The cumulative effects are obvious in chronic coffee drinkers, after awhile they can drink coffee before going to bed and sleep (or not, like usual...) without any noticable effects on their bodies (because their bodies are full of caffine already.
6) The caffine industry does not care about it's customers. (just like big tobbacco doesn't, nor the RIAA)
7) Caffine is targeted towards young children. (No Johnny you can't have coffee for breakfast that is a big person drink, but here, have a Coke on the way to school...)
8) Caffine constricts your blood vessels in your brain. So your brain get's less oxygen and when you stop drinking coffee for a time, the blood vessels increase back to normal size and you get a headache from this effect... that is why another cup of coffee fixes these headaches.
9) Excedrine contains caffine. (read #8 to see why it takes away some kinds of headaches)
10)Caffine is a natural bug killer/repellant that some plants make. (funny how the first few times you drink coffee, it takes like bug killer...)
11) Caffine is a nerve irritant, it makes a stress turn into distress, and it extreme taxes our mental ability to deal with difficult situtations.
I can honestly say of all the foods out there, coffee is probably the worst thing you can put into your body. It wrecks every part of your body slowly from you nerves to your brain, liver, joints, intestines, bowels, stomach, you name it. Either directly or indirectly every cup of coffee or soda pop that you drink you are rotting your body away...
The worst thing you can do is deceive your first line of defense against this stuff, your taste. The next thing you know McDonalds will put this stuff in their burgers and then they will serve billions of people with it...wait...doh!
I really think there should be a legal inquiry as to why caffine is not measured and labeled on products (by law). Caffine lobbying has prevented this some how and if the truth was to get out about how bad caffine is for you, there will be lawsuits not unlike those against the tobbacco industry, most likely worse...
For anyone concerned about their children's health or their own, I would be very cautious about foods that may contain caffine and are not labeled properly (mainly drinks) as you have no idea of what you are giving them or yourself unless it's labeled...
No, once they are old enough to sneak past me, (age 10 or so I would guess) there is little else I can do except provide them with my own example. If I tried to enforce this till they were out of the house, I would have a teenager that hated me.
I've done this before, this isn't an experiment. My 5 year old daughter comes home from school and throws all the suckers away the teachers give her. I don't want my kids teeth rotting, so we don't eat junk food. I have to trust her when she goes to school and is not around me.
And because my wife and I both have chosen not to eat junk food (no exceptions, ever) it's an easy choice for my daughter... I am seeing the same thing with movies...
My parents said to me "don't watch bad movies" but then would rent a "big person" movie and we couldn't watch and had to go to bed. They also said "don't eat junk food" but then on occasion we'd go to McDonalds... the double standard does not make it obvious for a child to choose which is right. So there has to be one standard, and it has to be lived by.
ATI doesn't care about the 200, it's going for the big 600, no point messing around with 400 and 500, I mean come on! by the time this game get's out there we will be at 800!! So they are looking into the future with this one.
Also, ARB2 is going to be upgraded to ARB6 (again, if they focus on ARB3 they will end up behind the pack) Besides the ARB6 format has better fragment_shader_stencils for articulating the anti-aliasing rendered artifacts in the xyz buffer flow!
Leaking alpha was not an issue, it was the beta that was the problem, as it only proved they didn't _have_ a beta... duh? Everyone complains about how far behind they are, and an _alpha_ is the best they can leak, HA! It just shows how far behind they really are...
I solved this one with my kids. My cable modem get's a cable, my TV doesn't. (no analog hole antanae (sp) either...) VCR plays only parent sanctioned movies (meaning we bought it) to read between the lines here, if my kids can't watch it, then it doesn't get bought, and doesn't get watched. (adults don't watch it either, no double standards allowed)
I think teaching your kid abstinence from violence and filth and actually spending time with them doing real things (not watching TV all day) with them is better than stuffing a DVD in a condom and letting them run around with the slime ball on the screen, just HOPING that the condom (aka clean DVD filter player thing) will do it's job.... not like a condom ever breaks... or that *gasp* watching violence, crude humor, illicit sex, etc... is actually [insert second more profound *gasp*] is wrong even for adults, let alone kids... so rubber coating doesn't mean it's right.
Does it need to be asked here "WHO decides what get's censored?" What is deemed "violent" or "bad enough to get cut" ?
Some things just aren't good no matter how much you chop out.
Bambi 1 hour 22 min Bambi (after filtering) 12 min (keep in mind all the subliminal garbage...)
The Matrix 2 hr 5 min The Matrix (after filtering) 2 min 35 sec (no comment needed...)
Why bother?
-v
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m-80 = dangerous
Please don't glorify the use of these things... I've seen what it looks like when a hand is blown to peices with one of these... it's not pretty.
I had a very small firecracker blowup in my hand, and it hurt very badly.
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I would really like to know, as IANAL, where the Law really prohibits sharing of files like this? Forgive my ignorance here, but my understanding of copyright law (as minimal as it is) is that the act of copying and sharing is not illegal, but the act of copying and selling is, mainly for the reason of damages... Where as copying and sharing as to my knowledge never been shown in court to cause damages...
I am currently in a copyright infringement lawsuit, and the maximum statutory damages is $500 - $10,000. In my case, a few images were printed in a book, and the plaintiff has been unable to prove any damages (not unlike the RIAA) has claimed multi $100k's worth of damage... So if individuals only copy a few files in their life, there's no way true damages could ever be proved against an individual in P2P...
So from that viewpoint, P2P is legal, but piracy (selling copied copyright'd works) is illegal. Again, IANAL, so if anyone has some straight solid case law or something to prove me wrong here, or simple knowledge of Law, I'd like to know...
-v
1) Modifying your name by just a few letters each time you fill out a suspicious form.
2) Note in a personal log a) the changes you made to your name b) where it was sent.
3) Anytime you get junk mail or phone calls that misspell/mispronounce your name, check your log and see where the source of their info came from.
4) Complain viciously to some rights organization, the originating company or proper government office or official...
Not sure if it will work, I just started doing this. This technique works very well for email and online forms as well to track information... always interesting to see if those privacy statements are actually adhered to...
-v
It would be nice to think the Government cares about us little people getting "annoyed" with marketing calls, it seems it takes something more sinister to get a law like this through... I don't see how it will help though other than make folks aware of the difference between a con artist and a true salesman...
Sorry to say this folks, but the phone marketing people may be right about this one, all it will do is stop legitimate phone sales calls coming in...but the stuff that is really bad ($40 billion a year bad) will simply ignore the dumb list, or worse yet, abuse it, as so many people have pointed out... ugh.
-v
I would hardly call "turning off activeX" and cranking up the default security settings to "high" as actually "locking down a computer" in a bad way...
If you need active activated to view a website, then use mozilla... too bad for MS...
Also, "new features" as you have referred to them are often times things like "MS now has a back door to your XP box so it can update your software for you", nice feature, I am sure there is no security problems with it nor are there any bugs included in this part of the upgrade...
As far as flexibility goes for the normal Joe (which is basically the mass of virus spreaders and zombie owners) they check emaila and surf, maybe play games, why do you need "flexible" and buggy software to do that?
no, airbags isn't the right analogy, I think you were meaning "seat belts"...
Sun To Use AMD Mobile Processor In Blade Servers
blade + mobile CPU + wheels + Handle + Rent-a-thug = new age of mobile power computing.
Coming soon: Rent-a-Render-Farm, feel the need for some 3d imagery while camping or at the mall?
My brain can do 330 trillion calculations per second, ha, I can even do 700 trillion on a decent day, but I just choose not too... will this new computer have similar flaws?
Just pull an enron, dump the corporation of salon.COM and startup salon.[whatever] and *voila* instant success... Give me $100 k and I could run Salon.org for you... I've got a basement and plenty of friends that know how to rite, and they spells reel good to..
-v
"Computers Will Be Built By Living Cells"
[Translation]
"Computer Will Be Built By [People]"
What if you have DSL? hmmmm... round and round we go... Then everything you send goes over telco lines...
The Centrifigal Band is a comb nation of tree mainthians.
1. The new Bananas predecessor
2. The Montana 852/855 Freeway (no speed limit)
3. Incarcerated BOYZ.IIb
Sure, every person online has the perfect anti-spam tool, it's that strange cable plugged into the back of your modem... all those nasty spams get into your computer with it, just pull it out *presto* no more spam...
Maybe you can tell me this, everyone else on slashdot (including it seems mr taco) is so delusioned over the values of the xbox...
1) Is it bad or good for microsoft to buy an Xbox? (yes or no, then why)
2) If you hack it, does it make you buying an xbox a bad thing for Microsoft?
3) If there are better systems out there to do what you want it to do (play dvd's, pvr, media coucil, etc...) then how can your motivation to buy an xbox be anything other than sheer hacking curiosity or to hurt microsoft? (is there a third reason?)
4) If your only goal is hurt Microsoft, why do you think buying something from them (reguardless on how much they loose on it) will achieve your goal?
5) If you are only trying to hurt a company, aren't you doing the same thing Microsoft does?
6) If you really want an xbox that runs linux, isn't that simply pointless from a reality stand point? (as this is similar to converting a semi truck to run on electric power, it's cleaner, better in some regards, but doesn't do what it's made to do anymore...so looses it's inherent value)
7) If your motivation is purly hacking oriented, are you sadistic or is there really a value in hacking this thing?
8) If you do hack it, the only way you can get any value out of one is to buy it... (go back to question 1)
-v
1) It let's you know the other person is still there. (for those couples with troubled relationships)
2) It let's you know that the other person is still alive. (for those couples that are very old and near death)
3) It let's you know when the other person is dead. (for those with troubled relationships that are very old and near death.)
Smart Mob == Dumb Mob + Smart Leader; :(
Function setSmartMobLanguage(pLanguage){
if(pLanguage == "Polictical Correctness"){
sendInTheTroops("liberals");
} else if(pLangauge == "Circles and Metaphores"){
sendInTheTroops("right wingers");
} else {
sendInTheTroops("wackos and perverts");
}
}
Now while I'm no fan of MS, do we really need to have stories everytime someone accueses Microsoft of having poor security? Might as well dedicate an entire section of Slashdot to their exploits.
Let me quote and old adage...
"It's illegal for MS because they are an illegal monopoly."
aka they broke the _law_
aka, they are corporate criminals running loose and free.
hence...
"Any and all bad adervising, spreading the truth of their lies, deceit and overall FUD, is not only enjoyed by the public in general but is required of any and all news media willing to stand up against such a great foe that even our esteemed Government's iron knees buckled too."
Every poor and technically ignorant sole out there that steps into the false sense of security net that MS has laid is at risk and the _only_ line of defense for them is a devout and courageous band of do-gooding geeks online...
We really need a "America's most wanted Corporation" website/TV show... not hard to find MS, when you do, avoid it like the plague... If you or your system has already been infected and you need the disease to do your work, then stick on the band-aids, grab your crutches and keep on marching until the tide turns baby!
For all you out there that wine and complain that the MPAA or [name evil media corporation here] is abusing it's consumers/customers/sheep,... by all means buy and enjoy. :)
There is enough time for the industry to lobby for tougher sanctions. The Commission's draft directive has to pass the European Parliament and the European Union's Council of Ministers before it is officially adopted.
Seems this isn't over yet...
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e aks-upload-more-patches-hunk-o-piece-o-garbage-OS_ ever again, like winXP...
I would _love_ an alternative to to win2k, _especially_ if I can have it on all my machines in my office and my network will stay up.
One big beef with win2k is that I have to unplug and plug my ether cords from my machines to get the other machines to see it on the network
Even worse is the the slow constant decay of performance between each reinstall of the system...
also I want to have a reason to _never ever in a million gazillion years_ upgrade to another 1984-orwellian-draconian-upload-patches-upload-br
[chant with me}
No More Flare Over Security And Stability!
No More Pretty Buttons and Animated Garbarge over Performance!
No More Filthy Trash EULAs!
*ahem* sorry, got carried away there...
("I am sorry mr MS tech support, I just don't have time to read all the if ands or buts, I just need my computer to be mine... and please stop breaking it or support some competition that will...stop breaking it I mean, like my computer... and stuff")
Why do all just assume this is ok? Why make something (coffee for instance) that our bodies automatically reject as disgusting and vile and make it taste good?
[WARNING: conspiracy rant coming up]
People really need to read into the source of money regarding caffine. I don't know of any coffee grown in the USA for one. Also coffee has been _proven_ to cause everything from instant heart-attacks in completely young and healthy people to all kinds of circulatory and immmune based diseases.
This knowledge has been stuffed and perverted by bizzare "scientific" testing funded by an almost hidden caffine industry.
Facts:
1) Caffine is addictive
2) No law requires the amount of caffine in a product (coke, pepsi, medicine, kids foods, etc...) to be labeled. (this is insane. For you law biters out there, look into this one, it makes perverse media laws for the RIAA look like childs play...)
3) Many medications have extreme reactions to caffine (many causing death) but very, very few doctors ask their patients if they even ingest caffine let alone warn them of the risks.
4) Caffine takes a long time to leave your system, therefore has a cumulative effect of build up, and can cause liver damage due to the overload. (which like a domino effect can crush the rest of your health)
5) The cumulative effects are obvious in chronic coffee drinkers, after awhile they can drink coffee before going to bed and sleep (or not, like usual...) without any noticable effects on their bodies (because their bodies are full of caffine already.
6) The caffine industry does not care about it's customers. (just like big tobbacco doesn't, nor the RIAA)
7) Caffine is targeted towards young children. (No Johnny you can't have coffee for breakfast that is a big person drink, but here, have a Coke on the way to school...)
8) Caffine constricts your blood vessels in your brain. So your brain get's less oxygen and when you stop drinking coffee for a time, the blood vessels increase back to normal size and you get a headache from this effect... that is why another cup of coffee fixes these headaches.
9) Excedrine contains caffine. (read #8 to see why it takes away some kinds of headaches)
10)Caffine is a natural bug killer/repellant that some plants make. (funny how the first few times you drink coffee, it takes like bug killer...)
11) Caffine is a nerve irritant, it makes a stress turn into distress, and it extreme taxes our mental ability to deal with difficult situtations.
I can honestly say of all the foods out there, coffee is probably the worst thing you can put into your body. It wrecks every part of your body slowly from you nerves to your brain, liver, joints, intestines, bowels, stomach, you name it. Either directly or indirectly every cup of coffee or soda pop that you drink you are rotting your body away...
The worst thing you can do is deceive your first line of defense against this stuff, your taste. The next thing you know McDonalds will put this stuff in their burgers and then they will serve billions of people with it...wait...doh!
I really think there should be a legal inquiry as to why caffine is not measured and labeled on products (by law). Caffine lobbying has prevented this some how and if the truth was to get out about how bad caffine is for you, there will be lawsuits not unlike those against the tobbacco industry, most likely worse...
For anyone concerned about their children's health or their own, I would be very cautious about foods that may contain caffine and are not labeled properly (mainly drinks) as you have no idea of what you are giving them or yourself unless it's labeled...
No, once they are old enough to sneak past me, (age 10 or so I would guess) there is little else I can do except provide them with my own example. If I tried to enforce this till they were out of the house, I would have a teenager that hated me.
I've done this before, this isn't an experiment. My 5 year old daughter comes home from school and throws all the suckers away the teachers give her. I don't want my kids teeth rotting, so we don't eat junk food. I have to trust her when she goes to school and is not around me.
And because my wife and I both have chosen not to eat junk food (no exceptions, ever) it's an easy choice for my daughter... I am seeing the same thing with movies...
My parents said to me "don't watch bad movies" but then would rent a "big person" movie and we couldn't watch and had to go to bed. They also said "don't eat junk food" but then on occasion we'd go to McDonalds... the double standard does not make it obvious for a child to choose which is right. So there has to be one standard, and it has to be lived by.
-v
you guys have it all wrong!
ATI doesn't care about the 200, it's going for the big 600, no point messing around with 400 and 500, I mean come on! by the time this game get's out there we will be at 800!! So they are looking into the future with this one.
Also, ARB2 is going to be upgraded to ARB6 (again, if they focus on ARB3 they will end up behind the pack) Besides the ARB6 format has better fragment_shader_stencils for articulating the anti-aliasing rendered artifacts in the xyz buffer flow!
Leaking alpha was not an issue, it was the beta that was the problem, as it only proved they didn't _have_ a beta... duh? Everyone complains about how far behind they are, and an _alpha_ is the best they can leak, HA! It just shows how far behind they really are...
-v
I solved this one with my kids. My cable modem get's a cable, my TV doesn't. (no analog hole antanae (sp) either...) VCR plays only parent sanctioned movies (meaning we bought it) to read between the lines here, if my kids can't watch it, then it doesn't get bought, and doesn't get watched. (adults don't watch it either, no double standards allowed)
I think teaching your kid abstinence from violence and filth and actually spending time with them doing real things (not watching TV all day) with them is better than stuffing a DVD in a condom and letting them run around with the slime ball on the screen, just HOPING that the condom (aka clean DVD filter player thing) will do it's job.... not like a condom ever breaks... or that *gasp* watching violence, crude humor, illicit sex, etc... is actually [insert second more profound *gasp*] is wrong even for adults, let alone kids... so rubber coating doesn't mean it's right.
Does it need to be asked here "WHO decides what get's censored?" What is deemed "violent" or "bad enough to get cut" ?
Some things just aren't good no matter how much you chop out.
Bambi 1 hour 22 min
Bambi (after filtering) 12 min
(keep in mind all the subliminal garbage...)
The Matrix 2 hr 5 min
The Matrix (after filtering) 2 min 35 sec
(no comment needed...)
Why bother?
-v
m-80 = dangerous
Please don't glorify the use of these things... I've seen what it looks like when a hand is blown to peices with one of these... it's not pretty.
I had a very small firecracker blowup in my hand, and it hurt very badly.
Imagine an aircraft carrier and a few destroyer escorts with flank speeds in excess of 70 knots...
Yah, and at that speed you could just untie the jet fighters and they could take off without even turning on their engines...