"You may think you're getting cheap stuff out of this, or the economy will do better, but it will wind up costing you more in the long run."
AMEN BROTHER. If there is anything I've seen in the republican party it is a complete blindness for the future. Environmental policy is just one place this is evident.
Consider also their foreign policy which consists of dropping as many bombs as quickly as possible. In the short run, yes, it'll quiet the world. However, the damage done to the reputation of the US in the world will probably not be repaired in the next 2 decades. If I get that eagle on my passport some day, I'll almost be afraid to use it to travel abroad. What good is all the money in the world if you can't enjoy but your own sliver of it?
Then the economy. As Bill Maher put it, isn't "tax and spend" better than "don't tax and spend"? What we're doing with deficits is just borrowing money. And guess who'll have to pay for that later - you and your children, with interest. Sure, it feels good to get your big screen TV now, America (i.e. new weapons systems), but you're condemning your children to a shittier future.
Then we get the social programs. The whole motto of the republican party is "smaller govt, less control." Let the rich get richer, screw the poor. Yet they cry when the inner city youth starts stealing shit from their houses so they can eat or start dealing drugs because there aren't any jobs. Then they send these kids to the state penn for 40 years for selling 10 joints, while Rush Limbaugh owns enough Ox to kill him 50 times over. (but I digress, that's hypocrisy, not blindness)
Finally, let's get to their choice of a presidential candidate. Instead of picking somebody half-way decent, like McCain (and even he disappointed me horribly with his latest support for the idiot-in-chief), they go right back to Bush, knowing what a fuck up he is and how divisive he is to the country, and how many of our kids he killed for his stupid ideals. That might be good for them in the short run, because of all the money Bush spent of advertising himself just might win them the presidency again, but if the tide turns (and judging by this group of scientists, it's already turning) there will be a major backlash against the republicans for the next 10 years.
Ahhh... that lever! I read it the same as your parent post there, though, because his parent said these were all tools. Lever, as you describe it - I guess I'd call it a method of doing something, not a tool. The way that cannibal clown and myself understood it was through the word "tool". Tools are physical objects, not ideas.
And what is up with the last sentence? "Perhaps you need to read up on the principle of the lever?" Are slashdotters unable to have a conversations anymore without telling the other person "you're an idiot" at the end of each post?
God, you're so trolling. Let me remind you of why XP is *the* desktop OS to have. 98 = ran all the games, most hardware manf. wrote drivers for it, fast but unfortunately unstable ME = half-assed buggy OS without enough drivers 2000 = stable, business OS, without enough drivers
XP = merger of 98's gaming and driver capabilities, yet stable as 2000
That's why I bought it (twice) and that's why I still run it. Now, I also have a Redhat box for my fileserver, but I still game/connect to work/work on XP.
If you ever wondered why so many people use it, try to install Typo3 CMS on Redhat 8, let's say, and compare that nightmare with a single.exe install on Windows.
Hey speaking of NASA, what are they doing? Where's their attempt at a reusable crew vehicle?
Are they just waiting to pick the X-prize winner, and be happy with that? Or do they have a contract with Lockheed or some big contractor (last one of those I believe was cancelled).
Looking through their web site, (and admittedly I looked for 5 minutes only) I could find nothing that indicated even trying to find the shuttle replacement?
They don't? I beg to disagree. If you're saying that computer games (which have pretty much turned into realistic simulations these days) have no impact on one's behaviour...
OK, then why would you ever want to train your pilots in flight simulators? Are you saying that the sims have no impact on the pilot's behaviour in a crisis? (such as losing engines, etc...) That's exactly what the simulator does: you repeat something often enough, and you'll be able to overcome your body's natural instinct, and do what you've rehearsed a zillion times, not what you'd *naturally* try to do.
I know, you meant to be funny, and yes it's a good quote.:)
Ah, the good old days of gray background, blue links, and black text. Add some tables in there, and you have yourself a perfectly functional website. Everything else is just fluff.
Prius number is what my wife gets. The car itself will give you the number; I think the EPA originally cited something like 50+/60+, Prius owners were even upset how the actual numbers (in the '40s) weren't that close. The other numbers (SUV's, Corolla) are from EPA, which means that the true difference can only be greater than 10mpg. Not to pick on your statement too much, but in reality, newer hybrids do really well compared to conventional cars. Older hybrids may not be so good (of which I have no firsthand info), and that reputation may be unjustly sticking.
and that 'about 100 or so' soldiers have died in Iraq.
Yeah, well, if even the DEFENSE DEPARTMENT'S DEPUTY SECRETARY doesn't know the figure (he was off by at least 40%), then what expectations can we possibly have of an average Joe? I mean, it's like like it's Joe's *job* or anything to know this, but Wolfowitz... it goes beyond incompetence, it's just insulting to our soldiers. He may as well have walked over to the Arlington cemetary and started pissing on the graves for that matter...
Speaking of dense, (but completely unrelated), this is a great stat: 19% of Americans think they're in the top 1% of the income range. Chew on that one for a little while:)
I have once. I'll never do it again, especially if there's a layer of ice underneath the snow. Well, at least now I know why those Army commercials don't feature Arctic troops on bicycles. Learn something every day.
"and even the hybrids don't get good miles, apparently"
My wife owns just recently bought a new Toyota Prius. In city driving, she gets about 44mpg. On the highway, about 48mpg. That's a little bit better than a 12/16mpg large SUV, wouldn't you say? (http://money.cnn.com/pf/autos/features/mile age/pa ge3.html) Even if you want to compare it fairly, to another non-hybrid car, let's say Corolla (which I think is smaller than a Prius), that one gets 32/41. So an average gain of almost 10mpg [(44-32)+(48-41)]/2 is not significant?
Yeah, Win3.1 was just amazing. I just loved how a single application would bring the entire OS down. And then the daily reboots... And DOS - the best half-assed single user shell I've ever used; the thing I particularly enjoyed was freeing up the 640K memory to play games. Ugh.
You are right, there are alternatives. There are always alternatives. But the speed with which we're moving on these issues is very troubling. What's the current run-out date? 2040? 2050? Depends on who you're listening to. Let's take the 2040 number. Let's even assume that the production will peak then. 30 years away, and you have only two commercially available hybrid cars? Fuel cell tech is at least a decade away at this rate... and that's for the first models, never mind replacing entire countries' worth of cars, which... how much strain will that put on the atmosphere, processing all those materials?
In order to insure a smooth transition to oil-less world, we need to start 10 years ago. The only question at this point isn't whether weaning ourselves off of oil is going to hurt, it's how much it will hurt.
I don't see much interest in anything alternative. Two commercial hybrids, and people are buying SUVs like there's no tomorrow. People don't care. People don't even realize there will be a problem. Any time anyone suggest there is such a thing as global warming, what's the response? Let's have a new study. We *know* pumping too much CO2 is bad... yet because we haven't seen what it can do to a planet yet, despite all the models, we're not gonna do anything about it? What are you waiting for people? The moment your house in the Himalayas floods? The moment you can't breathe anymore? It will be too damn late.
1) IQ comment. It's obvious. Never even saw that email (your link), but watching Bush on TV without reading a script makes me think he's either naturally retarded, or just severely damaged from all the drug use in his youth. I think it's pretty obvious.
2) Franken - the difference between him and the "right" is that he doesn't make us numbers and facts. He has enough ammo from real facts to make his point. His frequent targets, O'Reily and Hannity... they make up shit and pretend it's God's given truth. I do understand that he's a comedian first, but he does go after legit targets, all the made up "facts".
3) Republican attack dogs - do you know what they did to their own? McCain and Max Cleland? To go after vets for their lack of patriotism? After they leave limbs and years of their lives for their country? It's disgusting... and these are Republicans doing it to other Republicans! It's one thing to go after somebody based on their record (economic and otherwise), and something quite else making up lies (350+ times that Kerry voted for tax raises!!!)
Yes, there's some dirty play on both sides, but to say it's all the same is just ignorance.
See, that will only work in Europe. Cause in the US, our plugs have one side wider and the other narrower. So we'll have to take our plugs apart to get over this problem!!!
Of course, the Europeans will still be just as screwed with anything using three prongs:)
"Personally, I'm not too worried, because right around the time that oil gets really scarce, all of the hundreds of alternative solutions that are already fairly mature will suddenly become viable"
Maybe. But you should be worried, very worried. Gasolene is not the only thing we make out of oil, you know... byproducts are everywhere... think plastics, for instance. Look around you, and start counting/writing it down. If all of a sudden, you have to replace every single piece of plastic around you with something of similar properties, *and* just as cheap, what would you use??? Composites? Too expensive. Metal? Enormous energy cost to mine, clean, smelt, shape/cast. Wood? Not the same. Anything else?
Once oil is done, we're screwed economically. It's not *just* the gasolene...
"Actually, GWB has been far more protective of Clinton's reputation than he needed to be"
W himself? Though I think his IQ must be below about 80, I cannot honestly recall him ever saying anything bad about Clinton. His attack dogs, however? Totally different story. Judging by them, Clinton is the anti-Christ.
[completely unrelated]: If you want some amusing truth, check out airamericaradio.com and the O'Franken factor.
"My point, anyways, was that I was pissed that an airline subsidized by Canadian taxpayers was offering flights to Americans at just over half the price they were offering it to Canadians."
Now you know how we feel about the US drug manufacturers selling us the same drugs at 5x the price they sell them to you... Rotten bastards should all burn in hell.
So you have an incentive *not* to sell all the seats on a plane. Sounds like a winning business plan to me.
Actually, I'm kidding. It's nice to see a company value its employees, and offer reasonable benefits, as opposed to the useless/self destructing crap they usually push on people, like stock options.
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"You may think you're getting cheap stuff out of this, or the economy will do better, but it will wind up costing you more in the long run."
AMEN BROTHER. If there is anything I've seen in the republican party it is a complete blindness for the future. Environmental policy is just one place this is evident.
Consider also their foreign policy which consists of dropping as many bombs as quickly as possible. In the short run, yes, it'll quiet the world. However, the damage done to the reputation of the US in the world will probably not be repaired in the next 2 decades. If I get that eagle on my passport some day, I'll almost be afraid to use it to travel abroad. What good is all the money in the world if you can't enjoy but your own sliver of it?
Then the economy. As Bill Maher put it, isn't "tax and spend" better than "don't tax and spend"? What we're doing with deficits is just borrowing money. And guess who'll have to pay for that later - you and your children, with interest. Sure, it feels good to get your big screen TV now, America (i.e. new weapons systems), but you're condemning your children to a shittier future.
Then we get the social programs. The whole motto of the republican party is "smaller govt, less control." Let the rich get richer, screw the poor. Yet they cry when the inner city youth starts stealing shit from their houses so they can eat or start dealing drugs because there aren't any jobs. Then they send these kids to the state penn for 40 years for selling 10 joints, while Rush Limbaugh owns enough Ox to kill him 50 times over. (but I digress, that's hypocrisy, not blindness)
Finally, let's get to their choice of a presidential candidate. Instead of picking somebody half-way decent, like McCain (and even he disappointed me horribly with his latest support for the idiot-in-chief), they go right back to Bush, knowing what a fuck up he is and how divisive he is to the country, and how many of our kids he killed for his stupid ideals.
That might be good for them in the short run, because of all the money Bush spent of advertising himself just might win them the presidency again, but if the tide turns (and judging by this group of scientists, it's already turning) there will be a major backlash against the republicans for the next 10 years.
Shortsighted. Fucking blind.
Ahhh... that lever! I read it the same as your parent post there, though, because his parent said these were all tools. Lever, as you describe it - I guess I'd call it a method of doing something, not a tool. The way that cannibal clown and myself understood it was through the word "tool". Tools are physical objects, not ideas.
And what is up with the last sentence? "Perhaps you need to read up on the principle of the lever?" Are slashdotters unable to have a conversations anymore without telling the other person "you're an idiot" at the end of each post?
God, you're so trolling.
.exe install on Windows.
Let me remind you of why XP is *the* desktop OS to have.
98 = ran all the games, most hardware manf. wrote drivers for it, fast but unfortunately unstable
ME = half-assed buggy OS without enough drivers
2000 = stable, business OS, without enough drivers
XP = merger of 98's gaming and driver capabilities, yet stable as 2000
That's why I bought it (twice) and that's why I still run it. Now, I also have a Redhat box for my fileserver, but I still game/connect to work/work on XP.
If you ever wondered why so many people use it, try to install Typo3 CMS on Redhat 8, let's say, and compare that nightmare with a single
'nuff said.
Hey speaking of NASA, what are they doing? Where's their attempt at a reusable crew vehicle?
Are they just waiting to pick the X-prize winner, and be happy with that? Or do they have a contract with Lockheed or some big contractor (last one of those I believe was cancelled).
Looking through their web site, (and admittedly I looked for 5 minutes only) I could find nothing that indicated even trying to find the shuttle replacement?
I volunteer to print the manual out, scan it into TIFF images, tie them together, and publish it all as one big image. A mere 1Tb! Get yours now!
Mod this up! Funniest post of the bunch!
They don't? I beg to disagree. If you're saying that computer games (which have pretty much turned into realistic simulations these days) have no impact on one's behaviour...
:)
OK, then why would you ever want to train your pilots in flight simulators? Are you saying that the sims have no impact on the pilot's behaviour in a crisis? (such as losing engines, etc...) That's exactly what the simulator does: you repeat something often enough, and you'll be able to overcome your body's natural instinct, and do what you've rehearsed a zillion times, not what you'd *naturally* try to do.
I know, you meant to be funny, and yes it's a good quote.
Hey...
just wanted to say - have fun at Gitmo!
I fully agree. Anyone who's had to drive in/through DC would agree that an extra garage would certainly help, especially on the Mall.
All them museums are taking up a lot of space too...
Ah, the good old days of gray background, blue links, and black text. Add some tables in there, and you have yourself a perfectly functional website. Everything else is just fluff.
Prius number is what my wife gets. The car itself will give you the number; I think the EPA originally cited something like 50+/60+, Prius owners were even upset how the actual numbers (in the '40s) weren't that close.
The other numbers (SUV's, Corolla) are from EPA, which means that the true difference can only be greater than 10mpg.
Not to pick on your statement too much, but in reality, newer hybrids do really well compared to conventional cars. Older hybrids may not be so good (of which I have no firsthand info), and that reputation may be unjustly sticking.
and that 'about 100 or so' soldiers have died in Iraq.
:)
Yeah, well, if even the DEFENSE DEPARTMENT'S DEPUTY SECRETARY doesn't know the figure (he was off by at least 40%), then what expectations can we possibly have of an average Joe? I mean, it's like like it's Joe's *job* or anything to know this, but Wolfowitz... it goes beyond incompetence, it's just insulting to our soldiers. He may as well have walked over to the Arlington cemetary and started pissing on the graves for that matter...
Speaking of dense, (but completely unrelated), this is a great stat: 19% of Americans think they're in the top 1% of the income range.
Chew on that one for a little while
"Try biking in snow"
I have once. I'll never do it again, especially if there's a layer of ice underneath the snow.
Well, at least now I know why those Army commercials don't feature Arctic troops on bicycles.
Learn something every day.
"and even the hybrids don't get good miles, apparently"
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My wife owns just recently bought a new Toyota Prius. In city driving, she gets about 44mpg. On the highway, about 48mpg.
That's a little bit better than a 12/16mpg large SUV, wouldn't you say?
(http://money.cnn.com/pf/autos/features/mil
Even if you want to compare it fairly, to another non-hybrid car, let's say Corolla (which I think is smaller than a Prius), that one gets 32/41. So an average gain of almost 10mpg [(44-32)+(48-41)]/2 is not significant?
What did you expect out of a hybrid, 100mpg?
"Bush isn't stupid"
Now that's a misunderstatement of the year.
Yeah, Win3.1 was just amazing. I just loved how a single application would bring the entire OS down. And then the daily reboots...
And DOS - the best half-assed single user shell I've ever used; the thing I particularly enjoyed was freeing up the 640K memory to play games.
Ugh.
You are right, there are alternatives. There are always alternatives. But the speed with which we're moving on these issues is very troubling. What's the current run-out date? 2040? 2050? Depends on who you're listening to. Let's take the 2040 number. Let's even assume that the production will peak then. 30 years away, and you have only two commercially available hybrid cars?
Fuel cell tech is at least a decade away at this rate... and that's for the first models, never mind replacing entire countries' worth of cars, which... how much strain will that put on the atmosphere, processing all those materials?
In order to insure a smooth transition to oil-less world, we need to start 10 years ago. The only question at this point isn't whether weaning ourselves off of oil is going to hurt, it's how much it will hurt.
I don't see much interest in anything alternative. Two commercial hybrids, and people are buying SUVs like there's no tomorrow. People don't care. People don't even realize there will be a problem. Any time anyone suggest there is such a thing as global warming, what's the response? Let's have a new study. We *know* pumping too much CO2 is bad... yet because we haven't seen what it can do to a planet yet, despite all the models, we're not gonna do anything about it? What are you waiting for people? The moment your house in the Himalayas floods? The moment you can't breathe anymore?
It will be too damn late.
Dear Mr. Anonymous,
1) IQ comment. It's obvious. Never even saw that email (your link), but watching Bush on TV without reading a script makes me think he's either naturally retarded, or just severely damaged from all the drug use in his youth. I think it's pretty obvious.
2) Franken - the difference between him and the "right" is that he doesn't make us numbers and facts. He has enough ammo from real facts to make his point. His frequent targets, O'Reily and Hannity... they make up shit and pretend it's God's given truth. I do understand that he's a comedian first, but he does go after legit targets, all the made up "facts".
3) Republican attack dogs - do you know what they did to their own? McCain and Max Cleland? To go after vets for their lack of patriotism? After they leave limbs and years of their lives for their country? It's disgusting... and these are Republicans doing it to other Republicans!
It's one thing to go after somebody based on their record (economic and otherwise), and something quite else making up lies (350+ times that Kerry voted for tax raises!!!)
Yes, there's some dirty play on both sides, but to say it's all the same is just ignorance.
We need a new moderation category: "It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad."
See, that will only work in Europe. Cause in the US, our plugs have one side wider and the other narrower. So we'll have to take our plugs apart to get over this problem!!!
:)
Of course, the Europeans will still be just as screwed with anything using three prongs
"Personally, I'm not too worried, because right around the time that oil gets really scarce, all of the hundreds of alternative solutions that are already fairly mature will suddenly become viable"
Maybe. But you should be worried, very worried. Gasolene is not the only thing we make out of oil, you know... byproducts are everywhere... think plastics, for instance. Look around you, and start counting/writing it down. If all of a sudden, you have to replace every single piece of plastic around you with something of similar properties, *and* just as cheap, what would you use??? Composites? Too expensive. Metal? Enormous energy cost to mine, clean, smelt, shape/cast. Wood? Not the same. Anything else?
Once oil is done, we're screwed economically. It's not *just* the gasolene...
"The true goal of a scientist should be to uncover the truth"
No, I think that's Mulder's job. Shouldn't scientists be the ones who find out how the universe works?
"Actually, GWB has been far more protective of Clinton's reputation than he needed to be"
W himself? Though I think his IQ must be below about 80, I cannot honestly recall him ever saying anything bad about Clinton.
His attack dogs, however? Totally different story. Judging by them, Clinton is the anti-Christ.
[completely unrelated]: If you want some amusing truth, check out airamericaradio.com and the O'Franken factor.
"My point, anyways, was that I was pissed that an airline subsidized by Canadian taxpayers was offering flights to Americans at just over half the price they were offering it to Canadians."
Now you know how we feel about the US drug manufacturers selling us the same drugs at 5x the price they sell them to you...
Rotten bastards should all burn in hell.
So you have an incentive *not* to sell all the seats on a plane. Sounds like a winning business plan to me.
Actually, I'm kidding. It's nice to see a company value its employees, and offer reasonable benefits, as opposed to the useless/self destructing crap they usually push on people, like stock options.