Maybe if you put down the Ayn Rand and looked at the fragging world around you you might see that there are many societies between those two extremes and many of them generate far better outcomes for a majority of their citizens than the US does.
BTW good work conflating equality of opportunity with 'equal', and making out Soviet Union is the only possible implementation and outcome for socialism. It's thinking like that has made, and continues to make, the USA the mostly ignorant redneck paradise it is today.
Maybe you should stop assuming that everyone here is an American citizen. I am from Europe and from mixed parents. My father was born in an eastern Europe country and my mother was born in a western European country. I have seen communism in former Yugoslavia and I have seen "western socialism" in The Netherlands. I moved from The Netherlands to the US in 2010. Let me indulge you in some of the differences that I've seen:
- homeless people: more than enough in Amsterdam, same story in San Jose.
- education: everything before college is public and for free in both countries;
- universities are slightly less expensive in The Netherlands with almost interest-free loans to pay for the lower tuition and living expenses;
- healthcare: everybody is forced by law to have healthcare insurance in The Netherlands. If you don't you pay a fine.
- taxes: 52% income tax and 21% sales tax in The Netherlands.
- social security: if you don't work, you'll still get approx $2000 monthly from the state. With the minimum wage being at the same level, many people choose not to work. My 73% tax on every Euro that I earned went straight to people who choose not to work.
Bottom line: I moved to the US to escape the Socialist State of a so-called free and democratic country.
Now try again to convince me how your Marxist views are good for the world.
Wow, if only there were some kind of organized system of, say, i don't know, governance for ensuring that under-represented members of our communities get equal access to economic resources? Like a set of written guidelines or maybe rules that all members of a community need to abide by...
So you want everyone to be equal? That has been tried, it was called the Soviet Union.
In a free market, some people have more than others. If you don't want that, you'll end up having a Socialist State. And that means that the government steals^W taxes everything you earn above a certain amount, for example like in France.
Most of the people who are considered "poor" (where poor is relative, if you still have a roof, food and clothing) have had the same opportunities as those who are considered working class or even rich. They all had an opportunity to go to school and get at least a high school diploma. Not everyone is Stanford or Harvard material, but everyone has a chance in this country. If you don't take that chance and become poor, it is your own fault and I don't need a government to take my hard-earned cash away and give it to you. I earned my Masters degree two weeks after 18 months of studying, and it cost me only 4k. Being poor is a choice for most people who are.
And then you have this commie complaining about how not giving free high-speed internet to those who refused to go to school and work is only increasing the income gap. What an idiot.
Until you can board a plane without a ticket, and without going through TSA
I did that quite recently. Drove up to the airport, got the keys to the airplane, walked out to the ramp, did a pre-flight check, got in the cockpit and started the engine. Did I mention it was a Cessna 172?
How did nobody ever think of suing before? It sounds so easy! Somebody should tell all those poor, unemployed, indebted people that if they just pony up $50k for a lawyer, they can maybe win a case in a few years.
Sounds to me like you feel that the legal system is broken. If the legal system is broken, fix the legal system. Don't introduce legislation that burdens innovative start-ups to govern something that could be perfectly self-governed using a working legal system.
If you're charging someone $15000 for a 10 week course, and promising jobs at companies "like Facebook and Google," you probably need to fall under some sort of regulation and compliance.
Not true. Look at what is happening at flight schools. Teens are often paying more than 100k to get a commercial pilot's license based on the promise that one day they will fly the big wide-bodies to trans-atlantic destinations. These schools are heavily regulated by the FAA and other bodies. However, they are still spitting out thousands of new pilots every year, who end up in a pay to fly situation to maintain currency on their licenses.
The government has no business in a contract between you and me. If I lie to you, you sue me, it is that simple. Worst case scenario you press fraud charges. What is happening here, is that the schools have the burden of proof to provide evidence to the government that they are legit.
Please proof that you have never committed murder.
If I opened a "school" tomorrow that promised to teach programming and charged $15,000 don't you think some government organization should make sure the students are actually going to learn something for their $15,000?
No. Because the government have no business being involved in a contract between you and me. If you do not teach me what you said you would, I sue you for damages. There is already a legal system in place, and the only thing that is achieved by these cease-and-desist letters is that innovative startups are being forced out of business by an overeager beancounter who found something else to do than stare out of the window all day, and allows incumbent "schools" like ITT-tech (where your noodle-recipe will get you a 100% grade, according to Wikipedia) to flourish.
mastered the art of making sure that as little as possible returns to the communities that incubate them.
I think that you will see that the average income of tech-industry workers around the SF bay area is among the highest in the nation. That money largely flows back into the local economy.
The money I earn gets spends on my rent, local sales tax, CA income tax, CA SDI, car insurance, etc etc etc. It's not like I can have my paycheck sent to the Cayman Islands and enjoy a tax-free income.
I also believe that Google provides free WiFi in the Mountain View area, just as a service. And every school in the area will have some form of sponsorship from the local tech giants.
Yes, these Indymedia commie's will go in the history book as modern day flat-earthers. What an idiots, targeting one of the brightest engineers working on cutting-edge technology.
If they were born in the 1900s, they would have targeted Nikola Tesla.
I'm sorry, that is not something that the average American will understand. Next time, write "3.2 Kilometers of air" and we can translate it with "2 Statute Miles of air":)
From TFS: "already serving time for helping to plot attacks against UK targets"
It is irrelevant to consider a past criminal record. This is a new case, and this case is not regarding terrorist activities but a fraud-related charge. This means that case-law is being created: "even in cases where the charges are only fraud-related, a defendant no longer has the right to remain silent in the UK".
And here, ladies and gentlemen, is why the UK has become a Police State: it started with the slippery slope of "protect the children against porn and terrorism", and now two things have happened:
- You no longer have the right to remain silent;
- Everything you do on the web can and will be censored by the Chinese^H^H^H UK Government;
No way that I am ever going to do business with a British entity. Once upon a time they were a symbol of courage and freedom, today they are the symbol of oppression and prime example for China and North Korea.
If you're a manager with fiscal authority (in a company of any size) and you give up a talented employee for $10k, you are a doofus. Doing it while discriminating is strike #2, and getting caught is #3.
Amen to that, I could not agree more. That director is an idiot first class.
If this guy is so good, why would Oracle try to low-ball him like this?
You have obviously never worked for a large company. Oracle did not try to low-ball him. Some shitty middle-management idiot backed by an HR-chick who likes to stay friends with those in power low-balled him.
If you read the article, you'll see that the Indian employee's manager tried to negotiate him a decent salary, on behalf of Oracle. It was that manager's director who decided otherwise. Had that manager gone one step higher, it might as well have turned out otherwise. Keep in mind that there are many layers of management in a company like Oracle, and that even a title like "VP" will most like be 5 or 6 steps away from the board-room.
The law does not care if you are white hat or black hat. Well at least with respect to guilt, it can be considered at sentencing.
Actually, it does. Your intentions can make an important difference. One example of this is the good Samaritan who breaks into a car to rescue a baby locked inside on a hot day. He would be guilty of vandalism according to your logic. Same applies here, if the kid notices a vulnerability and reports it without unnecessarily retrieving data, he is obviously a good Samaritan.
If I'm amnesiac, I have much bigger problems on my plate than whether I can access any social sites, member-only areas of sites and so on. Given the kind of brain trauma needed to get significant amnesia, I probably would not have much use for email for the first while anyway.
But what if your Amnesiac brain holds the password for your 10000BTC wallet on your harddrive?
I wrote to my MP, who didn't seem to understand the problem, and forwarded my concerns (as well as others about GCHQ) to the relevant department. I eventually got an extremely vague response that could be accurately summarised as "fuck off, pleb". I think I'm basically at war with my country now.
I don't own any firearms, but I believe this is the primary reason for the second amendment of the U.S. constitution...
When you have a good manager, they are almost invisible and you don't realize what is going on behind the scenes
This is so, so true. At some point in my career, I was working for a large vendor's Advanced TAC. I had a manager who occasionally would come up to my desk with some hot escalation which needed immediate attention. I was wondering what he was doing all day.
Then came the day that he left. He got the Silicon Valley escort out of the building right after his resignation, and I got a temporary manager. All hell broke loose. That's when I realized the true value of my former manager: he was shielding his precious TAC engineers from unnecessary political escalations and made sure that we only got cases which needed our attention, and made sure we actually have some time to analyze the case before coming to a preliminary conclusion. My workload tripled.
I have also been on the other side of that coin. Not so long ago, I was working as a team lead for another large vendor, on a project for a new product. I had a couple of engineers in my team and they would sometimes jokingly ask what I was doing all day. Coming in at 11am, delegating a bunch of tasks and leaving at 4pm. What they did not see is that I worked at home from 8am until 10:30am, and usually until late at night. When I left, I spoke my best engineer a few weeks later. He confessed that he sometimes thought that I was a slacker, but that he now got my workload and was suffering badly. Best compliment I've ever had.
actually the obvious answer is that trust is not a binary thing.
Actually, the obvious answer is that you don't have a choice. No matter how much effort you put into it, you will always be depending on third party hard- or software that simply have to trust. So, you want to solder your own PCB? Sure, go ahead, but your Ralink SoC is still manufactured somewhere in China. Don't trust Cisco's IOS? Sure, write your own, and let me know how you designed and manufactured your own ASICs. And then we're not even discussing the fact that as soon as the packet leaves your router, it will enter one that you don't even own. Yes, there is a lot that you can do and I think the closest real answer to the poster's question is to just get an OpenWRT capable router and compile from scratch, but to not trust anyone is simply not an option.
For example; in a MPLS Virtual Network; the Virtual network, would be subject to the possibility of intrusion into the network by the circuit provider, or any third party ---- there is no way to know that the network is actually Private then, so it is not.
So you're saying that an MPLS VPN is not a VPN? Well, good luck convincing the rest of the world that the Earth is flat.
What they are really selling is a tunneled network service, not a secure Virtual Private Network.
The fact that you use the term "secure" in this context already shows that you are clueless. What do you mean by secure? Security can include any of the following: Availability, Reliability, Confidentiality, Authenticity...
There are perfectly safe ways of doing this -- it's called a VPN,
Not necessarily true. Not all VPNs are the same.
For example, a simple MPLS-based Layer 3 VPN will separate traffic between network A and network B, but it will not be encrypted. The only relatively safe way of doing it is via a strongly encrypted tunnel.
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Maybe if you put down the Ayn Rand and looked at the fragging world around you you might see that there are many societies between those two extremes and many of them generate far better outcomes for a majority of their citizens than the US does. BTW good work conflating equality of opportunity with 'equal', and making out Soviet Union is the only possible implementation and outcome for socialism. It's thinking like that has made, and continues to make, the USA the mostly ignorant redneck paradise it is today.
Maybe you should stop assuming that everyone here is an American citizen. I am from Europe and from mixed parents. My father was born in an eastern Europe country and my mother was born in a western European country. I have seen communism in former Yugoslavia and I have seen "western socialism" in The Netherlands. I moved from The Netherlands to the US in 2010. Let me indulge you in some of the differences that I've seen:
- homeless people: more than enough in Amsterdam, same story in San Jose.
- education: everything before college is public and for free in both countries;
- universities are slightly less expensive in The Netherlands with almost interest-free loans to pay for the lower tuition and living expenses;
- healthcare: everybody is forced by law to have healthcare insurance in The Netherlands. If you don't you pay a fine.
- taxes: 52% income tax and 21% sales tax in The Netherlands.
- social security: if you don't work, you'll still get approx $2000 monthly from the state. With the minimum wage being at the same level, many people choose not to work. My 73% tax on every Euro that I earned went straight to people who choose not to work.
Bottom line: I moved to the US to escape the Socialist State of a so-called free and democratic country.
Now try again to convince me how your Marxist views are good for the world.
Wow, if only there were some kind of organized system of, say, i don't know, governance for ensuring that under-represented members of our communities get equal access to economic resources? Like a set of written guidelines or maybe rules that all members of a community need to abide by...
So you want everyone to be equal? That has been tried, it was called the Soviet Union.
In a free market, some people have more than others. If you don't want that, you'll end up having a Socialist State. And that means that the government steals^W taxes everything you earn above a certain amount, for example like in France.
Most of the people who are considered "poor" (where poor is relative, if you still have a roof, food and clothing) have had the same opportunities as those who are considered working class or even rich. They all had an opportunity to go to school and get at least a high school diploma. Not everyone is Stanford or Harvard material, but everyone has a chance in this country. If you don't take that chance and become poor, it is your own fault and I don't need a government to take my hard-earned cash away and give it to you. I earned my Masters degree two weeks after 18 months of studying, and it cost me only 4k. Being poor is a choice for most people who are.
And then you have this commie complaining about how not giving free high-speed internet to those who refused to go to school and work is only increasing the income gap. What an idiot.
Until you can board a plane without a ticket, and without going through TSA
I did that quite recently. Drove up to the airport, got the keys to the airplane, walked out to the ramp, did a pre-flight check, got in the cockpit and started the engine. Did I mention it was a Cessna 172?
How did nobody ever think of suing before? It sounds so easy! Somebody should tell all those poor, unemployed, indebted people that if they just pony up $50k for a lawyer, they can maybe win a case in a few years.
Sounds to me like you feel that the legal system is broken. If the legal system is broken, fix the legal system. Don't introduce legislation that burdens innovative start-ups to govern something that could be perfectly self-governed using a working legal system.
If you're charging someone $15000 for a 10 week course, and promising jobs at companies "like Facebook and Google," you probably need to fall under some sort of regulation and compliance.
Not true. Look at what is happening at flight schools. Teens are often paying more than 100k to get a commercial pilot's license based on the promise that one day they will fly the big wide-bodies to trans-atlantic destinations. These schools are heavily regulated by the FAA and other bodies. However, they are still spitting out thousands of new pilots every year, who end up in a pay to fly situation to maintain currency on their licenses.
The government has no business in a contract between you and me. If I lie to you, you sue me, it is that simple. Worst case scenario you press fraud charges. What is happening here, is that the schools have the burden of proof to provide evidence to the government that they are legit.
Please proof that you have never committed murder.
If I opened a "school" tomorrow that promised to teach programming and charged $15,000 don't you think some government organization should make sure the students are actually going to learn something for their $15,000?
No. Because the government have no business being involved in a contract between you and me. If you do not teach me what you said you would, I sue you for damages. There is already a legal system in place, and the only thing that is achieved by these cease-and-desist letters is that innovative startups are being forced out of business by an overeager beancounter who found something else to do than stare out of the window all day, and allows incumbent "schools" like ITT-tech (where your noodle-recipe will get you a 100% grade, according to Wikipedia) to flourish.
Welcome to the Soviet Republic of California.
I hope this won't happen:
/call-of-duty/cod.c:59: undefined reference to `shoot'
:)
make[2]: Entering directory `/call-of-duty/src'
gcc -Wall -Werror -ggdb -g -O2 -lshoot-em-up -o cod cod.o
cod.o: In function `kill_em_all':
make[2]: *** [cod] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/cod/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/cod'
make: *** [all] Error 2
root@gamer:~/#
"below zero' Kelvin? (is that you, Frank Herbert?) Centigrade? Farenheit?
Considering it's Europe and the fact that water freezes at 0 Celsius, my guess would be C.
mastered the art of making sure that as little as possible returns to the communities that incubate them.
I think that you will see that the average income of tech-industry workers around the SF bay area is among the highest in the nation. That money largely flows back into the local economy.
The money I earn gets spends on my rent, local sales tax, CA income tax, CA SDI, car insurance, etc etc etc. It's not like I can have my paycheck sent to the Cayman Islands and enjoy a tax-free income.
I also believe that Google provides free WiFi in the Mountain View area, just as a service. And every school in the area will have some form of sponsorship from the local tech giants.
Yes, these Indymedia commie's will go in the history book as modern day flat-earthers. What an idiots, targeting one of the brightest engineers working on cutting-edge technology.
If they were born in the 1900s, they would have targeted Nikola Tesla.
You can't deny Holocaust because it's a documented event.
So is creationism. Let's ban all the scientists!
Truth of the matter is that the "freedom of speech" in Europe has the same protection as the fourth amendment in the US. Both are empty promises.
3 kilometres of air
I'm sorry, that is not something that the average American will understand. Next time, write "3.2 Kilometers of air" and we can translate it with "2 Statute Miles of air" :)
From TFS: "already serving time for helping to plot attacks against UK targets"
It is irrelevant to consider a past criminal record. This is a new case, and this case is not regarding terrorist activities but a fraud-related charge. This means that case-law is being created: "even in cases where the charges are only fraud-related, a defendant no longer has the right to remain silent in the UK".
And here, ladies and gentlemen, is why the UK has become a Police State: it started with the slippery slope of "protect the children against porn and terrorism", and now two things have happened:
- You no longer have the right to remain silent;
- Everything you do on the web can and will be censored by the Chinese^H^H^H UK Government;
No way that I am ever going to do business with a British entity. Once upon a time they were a symbol of courage and freedom, today they are the symbol of oppression and prime example for China and North Korea.
If you're a manager with fiscal authority (in a company of any size) and you give up a talented employee for $10k, you are a doofus. Doing it while discriminating is strike #2, and getting caught is #3.
Amen to that, I could not agree more. That director is an idiot first class.
If this guy is so good, why would Oracle try to low-ball him like this?
You have obviously never worked for a large company. Oracle did not try to low-ball him. Some shitty middle-management idiot backed by an HR-chick who likes to stay friends with those in power low-balled him.
If you read the article, you'll see that the Indian employee's manager tried to negotiate him a decent salary, on behalf of Oracle. It was that manager's director who decided otherwise. Had that manager gone one step higher, it might as well have turned out otherwise. Keep in mind that there are many layers of management in a company like Oracle, and that even a title like "VP" will most like be 5 or 6 steps away from the board-room.
The law does not care if you are white hat or black hat. Well at least with respect to guilt, it can be considered at sentencing.
Actually, it does. Your intentions can make an important difference. One example of this is the good Samaritan who breaks into a car to rescue a baby locked inside on a hot day. He would be guilty of vandalism according to your logic. Same applies here, if the kid notices a vulnerability and reports it without unnecessarily retrieving data, he is obviously a good Samaritan.
If I'm amnesiac, I have much bigger problems on my plate than whether I can access any social sites, member-only areas of sites and so on. Given the kind of brain trauma needed to get significant amnesia, I probably would not have much use for email for the first while anyway.
But what if your Amnesiac brain holds the password for your 10000BTC wallet on your harddrive?
I wrote to my MP, who didn't seem to understand the problem, and forwarded my concerns (as well as others about GCHQ) to the relevant department. I eventually got an extremely vague response that could be accurately summarised as "fuck off, pleb". I think I'm basically at war with my country now.
I don't own any firearms, but I believe this is the primary reason for the second amendment of the U.S. constitution...
Pierce Morgan, back to the studio.
When you have a good manager, they are almost invisible and you don't realize what is going on behind the scenes
This is so, so true. At some point in my career, I was working for a large vendor's Advanced TAC. I had a manager who occasionally would come up to my desk with some hot escalation which needed immediate attention. I was wondering what he was doing all day.
Then came the day that he left. He got the Silicon Valley escort out of the building right after his resignation, and I got a temporary manager. All hell broke loose. That's when I realized the true value of my former manager: he was shielding his precious TAC engineers from unnecessary political escalations and made sure that we only got cases which needed our attention, and made sure we actually have some time to analyze the case before coming to a preliminary conclusion. My workload tripled.
I have also been on the other side of that coin. Not so long ago, I was working as a team lead for another large vendor, on a project for a new product. I had a couple of engineers in my team and they would sometimes jokingly ask what I was doing all day. Coming in at 11am, delegating a bunch of tasks and leaving at 4pm. What they did not see is that I worked at home from 8am until 10:30am, and usually until late at night. When I left, I spoke my best engineer a few weeks later. He confessed that he sometimes thought that I was a slacker, but that he now got my workload and was suffering badly. Best compliment I've ever had.
I would surely die in the process, but I would make sure to take many with me to the grave.
Like this?
by Bill_the_Engineer (772575) Alter Relationship on Thursday January 02, 2014 @08:07 (#45846313)
Now you tell me. Jeez, I'm going to have to figure out how to turn that big rock around.
Well... You're the one that claims to be an engineer so you better figure it out, and quickly! :)
actually the obvious answer is that trust is not a binary thing.
Actually, the obvious answer is that you don't have a choice. No matter how much effort you put into it, you will always be depending on third party hard- or software that simply have to trust. So, you want to solder your own PCB? Sure, go ahead, but your Ralink SoC is still manufactured somewhere in China. Don't trust Cisco's IOS? Sure, write your own, and let me know how you designed and manufactured your own ASICs. And then we're not even discussing the fact that as soon as the packet leaves your router, it will enter one that you don't even own. Yes, there is a lot that you can do and I think the closest real answer to the poster's question is to just get an OpenWRT capable router and compile from scratch, but to not trust anyone is simply not an option.
For example; in a MPLS Virtual Network; the Virtual network, would be subject to the possibility of intrusion into the network by the circuit provider, or any third party ---- there is no way to know that the network is actually Private then, so it is not.
So you're saying that an MPLS VPN is not a VPN? Well, good luck convincing the rest of the world that the Earth is flat.
If there is not encryption, then it is not a VPN.
You, sir, have no clue what you are talking about.
Just go and read RFC4026.
What they are really selling is a tunneled network service, not a secure Virtual Private Network.
The fact that you use the term "secure" in this context already shows that you are clueless. What do you mean by secure? Security can include any of the following: Availability, Reliability, Confidentiality, Authenticity...
There are perfectly safe ways of doing this -- it's called a VPN,
Not necessarily true. Not all VPNs are the same.
For example, a simple MPLS-based Layer 3 VPN will separate traffic between network A and network B, but it will not be encrypted. The only relatively safe way of doing it is via a strongly encrypted tunnel.