Projects like these are a GREAT way to introduce IPv6 to the masses, because every home can be given a range of IP adresses (hey, it's Ipv6, 2^128 adresses to waste! If that's not enough, someone make IPv8 a reality, 2^512 adresses.) for different computers, possibly a small subnet per house. While the internet itself (as we currently know it) can still be adressed by a centralized (or not, perhaps a backbone connection per district?) routing point which can receive requests for IPv4 sites and cause them to get delivered to IPv6 networks. This would instantly promote the use of IPv6 networks if this "city/town network" idea were to catch on.
As for actual uses, how about making it possible to do stuff online in a FAR more safe way? Because IP adresses are clearly assigned per household, any attempt at being naughty can be traced down to a physical adress with ease. This would make the privacy people jump up in sheer disgust, but that can be worked out in detail some time. It would also be extremely good for communities. Real life ones that is, where the inhabitants of a town can discuss stuff on several online forums, maybe video conferencing as well? This would also open up possibilities for actually everyone to get involved in local politics. Even with a bit of new protocal magic (bye bye SMTP) it could even be possible to institute a city-wide email system, where just everyone would get his own email adress, per person, not per ISP account, like j.doe@district.city.nl.
Of course, there are several things hampering this, mainly telcos who will do ANYTHING they can to stop this, to DMCA/$local_equivalent fanatics who will holler in rage because of the potential file-swapping possibilities, which with no doubt WILL happen. Then there is of course the standard problem with today's internet, like the last mile, annoying people who break stuff, innocent people who get framed by the aforementioned people, privacy people who will find any little detail to pounce upon and howl in rage... (Can be good or bad.)
Ah well, to be blunt; I'll expect this will never happen in every town/city. It's not like today's local goverments aren't tight-budgeted already, they don't have the money to initialize a project like this, let alone buy of the armies of lawyers to fend of the telcos and DMCA zealots/corporate goons. Still, depsite the odds, one can hope ad one can try to contribute to the impossible. We're still in the early days of modern day networking, TCP/IP being used around 1969 for the first time on ARPANET. It's been 34 years since then. The first powered aircraft flight was in 1903, while they still flew around in propellor planes in 1937.
Questions is, when will networking in general reach it's stage in life comparable to the jet angine in flight? A new set of protocols, like IPv6 and a new SMTP would be a very good step in the VERY right direction. Oh and it's 02:09 and I've only just realized the length of my story. Please excuse any typos you encounter.
Seriously. Do a google search for home-made water filters, see if there is anything they could use. Or on learning to read.
Your point being? I can google for the construction of thermonuclear weapons, does this automagically mean that I can build one from stuff sold in local stores? I can already imagine myself going to the supermarket for some stuff... "Excuse me, where do you people keep the weapons grade plutionium? Do I get bulk rates for orders over 200 kilograms?" I somehow doubt that would work. Heck, even most water-filters I can't make simply because I won't have a clue where to buy certain parts (We don't have many stores that are common in the US), what those parts are called in dutch and similiar problems.
So instead of just giving them damned water filters you're going to give them the internet? Good luck, I'm sure they would love to spend AGES trying to find something of which they don't know the exact name in their language, but they do know what it does and how it looks like. That is, if they are literate and aren't dying of various diseases. Also, considering even well-educated people fck up terribly from time to time, would you also be willing to man their service desk?
The internet is a lovely medium, yes. However, it's completely useless to a developing third world country. If people are so desperate to lay down internet, why not start at home first? How many villages/towns are their that still don't have ANY broadband possibilities? How many telcom monopolies are ruining the net for nearly anyone? How about creatives solutions for the legendary expensive "last mile" ? First improve at home. Experience the things you can only do by trying. Learn from mistaken around here so when finally the time is there, you can do developing countries in a nice, clean and simple way.
Also, what use is it to LEARN to READ on a WRITTEN medium?
The stereotypes and realities are often *very* different.
Someone give Hemos a medal for this one.
Seriously, what's this all about? Someone just proved that EQ doesn't only spawn 16 y/o with a record of sexual harassment. Of course EQ has sane people, normal players and a whole wad of "John Doe"s running around, having fun (or not) in a non-offensive way. Same thing with CS. A bunch of people I know IRL play CS and lo and behold: They aren't complete idiots. One of them is probably one of the coolest and calmest people I've met thus far. Yet I myself still do associate CS with 14 year olds struggling for online acceptance by being creative with the english language and various symbols and numbers, while EQ still is a stereotypic hunting ground for 16 y/o kids suffering from pure hormone rage. It's not because things are like that; it's just because of the vocal majority of a game/community or the bad part which has been highlighted by others.
There's a difference between making fun of/using stereotypes and actually believing them.
Ah heck, just figure I'll go buy my media at Beverwijk next time... Unless people started to taxt the black market as well. Wouldn't surprise me, bunch of thieving vultures.
Here in the NL we already have something on that, being charges 0,14 extra per CD-RW last time I bought a batch. Feels lovely to get fined for a crime I did not commit. Yet. Hell, I already paid my fine, so now I can copy copyrighted crap without worries, based on the fact you can get charged for the same offense twice. Too bad that won't work in court when I'm facing a small army of lawyers...
Also, if there are any other dutch people around here, (hard to imagine there aren't) does any of you have any information on "Stichting Thuiscopy", in whose name the charges are fined? If so, please relay that information to me because I want my 25 * 0,14 back from those thieving bastards!
What's wrong with the "Stop eating everything you come across, move your butt around a bit more and go participate in a physically active sport" method? Excercising like mad isn't a good idea btw, muscle tissue weighs more then fat, so evetually you'll GAIN weight. You'll look all buff though and you can shatter wood with one hand...
I know, same thing in SC3, which is more or less believable I suppose. The warp-bubble (in SC3 at least) needs to constantly up and thus the drive needs to be constantly online or else the ships would drop out of warp. That while the combat system was more realistic. Not a bad game either.:) Unlike Freespace 2 for example... Drives need a constant thrust vector and when you shut down the engines, your craft comes to a full stop in 2 or 3 seconds in a zero-g enviroment. Also, even moon-sized and planet-size ships don't have a field of gravity, whoopee. Has anyone even got a clue what the introduction of a planet-sized object with gravity in a star system might do? Even the slightest bit of gravitational tug on the earth can be disastrous, ranging from diminishing tides, longer or shorter days, a permanent ice age or maybe even turning our little planet into a raging inferno.
Also, do objects with such a huge mass not collapse upon themselves by the gravity they generate? Ah well, it's only sci-fi I guess... I mean, star ships, space stations, time travel, mechas, pretty women wearing tight clothes all the time... It's all an illusion.:(
Mind you, Linux is a fairly complicated OS to manage and maintain. Trying to use and maintain Linux simply requires quite a bit of understanding on how it works as nearly everyone knows. Trying to use Linux without reading up on basic things (like kernel recompiles) and understandin them is like driving a car without experience or a license.
The "Everyone should be able to do everything" idea is what's wrong with computers in general these days. No, John Doe does NOT need to set up an IIS webserver that came with his pirated Windows XP Pro CD. Keep things simple for users instead. Easier for them to understand and easier for professionals to maintain. (Even though I know "professionals" who should be banned from using computers, ugh.)
You people are preaching to the pope here. Apart from the runaway Mac fanatic I think most people here now how to do a simple, boring kernel/module recompile + bootloader install. What's next? A book review for "Installing Red Hat for really really dumb people"?
Also, how the hell do physics work in sci-fi? At least in games, have you noticed how you move along in space by firing up engines to a constant rate of thrust? In space, this would equal a constant rate of acceleration if you forget about minor gravity variances from nearby planets/stars/what-have-ye because there is no drag in space. Also, it's funny that ships in games slow down merely by decreasing the thrust from said engines... Star Trek does this too if I'm not mistaken, with constant thrust from starship engines...
When can I use my HDs merely by putting them within 1 meter of my comp? Screw those stupid & ugly flat cables, I want a nice, clean and wireless solution for this and I'm pretty sure allot of people with me.
TCG Members
Promoters
* AMD
* Hewlett-Packard
* IBM
* Intel Corporation
* Microsoft
First of all, I wonder how MS can be part of a group aimed at "thrustworthy computing" if you look at the current record of MS trustworthiness. It's like inviting Saddam Hussein to participate as advisor for peace talks some place. Second, what is IBM doing in that list? They support Linux as far as I know, but being in a the TCG with members like MS is something odd, at the very least...
Oh dear, must have been a while for you since you went to college. Over here, the system is just horribly messed up. Yes, I realize my parents only want the best for me and that the basic idea of schooling is filling my head with knowledge & experience instead of arousing fantasies involving that girl from another class... Ahem. But still, MOST lessons at my college are absolutely WORTHLESS. I might not be an expert on teaching but I've been in the system long enough to know that handing us one sheet of paper with 20 assignments, stuffing us behind a computer and telling us to shut up for 2+ hours while we work on said assignments is NOT a good way to learn stuff. What happened to this little thing called teaching stuff and actually explaining and helping people? If I were to ask something I'd only get "Oh, look it up in the help files or on the internet."... My parents pay money for that crap?
And then to think that my college is still (relatively) one of the best, which I find HARD to imagine considering the insane amount of things that are on a new level of wrongness...:(
Secondly, where did all the ice from the ice age go? surly mans discovery of fire didnt promote the end of that period in time...
It was a really REALLY big first fire. Either that, or some neanderthaler who lived solely on beans for 50 years with extreme indigestion blew wind over a firepit...
Been running a nightly 1.4a build since a few days because 1.3 doesn't like my google adress bar search function thingamajig. It's pretty much as lovely as Mozilla 1.3 except it hasn't killed my google adress bar search thingamjiggy... yet.
You're looking at this from the wrong perspective!
I think it more than likely has got something to do with Taco genuinely LOATHING the admin of rfc-editor.org and thus wants to drive him into financial despair by slashdotting his site five time over...
This was a clever April Fool's post. It caught me by surprise. Well done, Slashdot.
Really? YOU ARE SO FIRED! has always been a troll so even without realizing it was the first of April (Hey, I'm just awake, I'm allowed to be in a semi-conscious state of mind.) it was clear it was either a joke, bullshit or some goatse links that slipped through thanks to a drunk editor.
I'm sorry, don't have the time to keep track of every US cruise missile launched against or US bomb dropped on $random_third_world_country, even if I cared.
I really hope its true but the only way that I think it will happen is if they splice Shatner and Nimoy into the series.
They're getting older though... It'd be "Star Trek: Seniors in Space". Although ST has been shit since DS9, I mean... Come on, It's ben way too much ficussed on "character building", I want some action too. I'm sure that even in the future normal human arrogance, greed and innate hostility still remain. Coupled with big-ass spaceships, this SHOULD make an excellent combo. Instead, we're getting to see how Sisco governs a space station with mentally incapable crew, a less annoying incarnation of Wesley Crusher and Silly Putty as a security officer, with the supporting cast of the one and only non-hostile Cardassian and a derelict Ferengi whose brother has the Ferengi equivalent of Down syndrom. Yay.
I'm not even going to mention Voyager. Come on, dealing with the Borg to attack another, even more powerful species and STILL win, with a ship that's build for long range exploration/scouting. I mean, Picard had his ass kicked by the Borg and that was the fcking FLAGSHIP. Also, Janeway is an idiot. "Oh no, we're 75 years away from home! Instead of the quickest route home, we'll visit every little cloud of dust we see and seriously ruin any culture we come across! Tally-ho!"
No more Star Trek for me, I'll miss Shatner and his magically ripped shirts, along with Patrick Stewart and his shiny dome...
I'd like to see this with CounterStrike! No, I don't play the game, I think it's retarded and dull, but can you imagine the interesting voice communication?
CS'er 1:Oh-em-gee! Oh-em-gee! Oh-em-gee!
CS'er 2:Dubbleyou-Tee-Ef???
CS'er 1:Jay-zero-zero wallhacksor! Yur mother is a fag!
CS'er 2:En-zero-zero-bee! Es-Tee-Ef-You! Jay-zero-zero just sucksors!
To Internet users who complain that their e-mail inboxes are crammed with ads for products and services they would never purchase, Childs' response is, "Quit your whining. I'm asking you, how stressful is it to push the delete button? We have become a nation of crybabies."
Would he also say the same thing if a bunch of people hacked his email server and redirected all his crap toward this guy's own personal email box? Or if he was sent those 2 mil AOL CDs? Also, the places where he has his server's, are they protect against hmmm.... "accidents"?
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Projects like these are a GREAT way to introduce IPv6 to the masses, because every home can be given a range of IP adresses (hey, it's Ipv6, 2^128 adresses to waste! If that's not enough, someone make IPv8 a reality, 2^512 adresses.) for different computers, possibly a small subnet per house. While the internet itself (as we currently know it) can still be adressed by a centralized (or not, perhaps a backbone connection per district?) routing point which can receive requests for IPv4 sites and cause them to get delivered to IPv6 networks. This would instantly promote the use of IPv6 networks if this "city/town network" idea were to catch on.
As for actual uses, how about making it possible to do stuff online in a FAR more safe way? Because IP adresses are clearly assigned per household, any attempt at being naughty can be traced down to a physical adress with ease. This would make the privacy people jump up in sheer disgust, but that can be worked out in detail some time. It would also be extremely good for communities. Real life ones that is, where the inhabitants of a town can discuss stuff on several online forums, maybe video conferencing as well? This would also open up possibilities for actually everyone to get involved in local politics. Even with a bit of new protocal magic (bye bye SMTP) it could even be possible to institute a city-wide email system, where just everyone would get his own email adress, per person, not per ISP account, like j.doe@district.city.nl.
Of course, there are several things hampering this, mainly telcos who will do ANYTHING they can to stop this, to DMCA/$local_equivalent fanatics who will holler in rage because of the potential file-swapping possibilities, which with no doubt WILL happen. Then there is of course the standard problem with today's internet, like the last mile, annoying people who break stuff, innocent people who get framed by the aforementioned people, privacy people who will find any little detail to pounce upon and howl in rage... (Can be good or bad.)
Ah well, to be blunt; I'll expect this will never happen in every town/city. It's not like today's local goverments aren't tight-budgeted already, they don't have the money to initialize a project like this, let alone buy of the armies of lawyers to fend of the telcos and DMCA zealots/corporate goons. Still, depsite the odds, one can hope ad one can try to contribute to the impossible. We're still in the early days of modern day networking, TCP/IP being used around 1969 for the first time on ARPANET. It's been 34 years since then. The first powered aircraft flight was in 1903, while they still flew around in propellor planes in 1937.
Questions is, when will networking in general reach it's stage in life comparable to the jet angine in flight? A new set of protocols, like IPv6 and a new SMTP would be a very good step in the VERY right direction. Oh and it's 02:09 and I've only just realized the length of my story. Please excuse any typos you encounter.
Your point being? I can google for the construction of thermonuclear weapons, does this automagically mean that I can build one from stuff sold in local stores? I can already imagine myself going to the supermarket for some stuff... "Excuse me, where do you people keep the weapons grade plutionium? Do I get bulk rates for orders over 200 kilograms?" I somehow doubt that would work. Heck, even most water-filters I can't make simply because I won't have a clue where to buy certain parts (We don't have many stores that are common in the US), what those parts are called in dutch and similiar problems.
So instead of just giving them damned water filters you're going to give them the internet? Good luck, I'm sure they would love to spend AGES trying to find something of which they don't know the exact name in their language, but they do know what it does and how it looks like. That is, if they are literate and aren't dying of various diseases. Also, considering even well-educated people fck up terribly from time to time, would you also be willing to man their service desk?
The internet is a lovely medium, yes. However, it's completely useless to a developing third world country. If people are so desperate to lay down internet, why not start at home first? How many villages/towns are their that still don't have ANY broadband possibilities? How many telcom monopolies are ruining the net for nearly anyone? How about creatives solutions for the legendary expensive "last mile" ? First improve at home. Experience the things you can only do by trying. Learn from mistaken around here so when finally the time is there, you can do developing countries in a nice, clean and simple way.
Also, what use is it to LEARN to READ on a WRITTEN medium?
Someone give Hemos a medal for this one.
Seriously, what's this all about? Someone just proved that EQ doesn't only spawn 16 y/o with a record of sexual harassment. Of course EQ has sane people, normal players and a whole wad of "John Doe"s running around, having fun (or not) in a non-offensive way. Same thing with CS. A bunch of people I know IRL play CS and lo and behold: They aren't complete idiots. One of them is probably one of the coolest and calmest people I've met thus far. Yet I myself still do associate CS with 14 year olds struggling for online acceptance by being creative with the english language and various symbols and numbers, while EQ still is a stereotypic hunting ground for 16 y/o kids suffering from pure hormone rage. It's not because things are like that; it's just because of the vocal majority of a game/community or the bad part which has been highlighted by others.
There's a difference between making fun of/using stereotypes and actually believing them.
Ah heck, just figure I'll go buy my media at Beverwijk next time... Unless people started to taxt the black market as well. Wouldn't surprise me, bunch of thieving vultures.
Here in the NL we already have something on that, being charges 0,14 extra per CD-RW last time I bought a batch. Feels lovely to get fined for a crime I did not commit. Yet. Hell, I already paid my fine, so now I can copy copyrighted crap without worries, based on the fact you can get charged for the same offense twice. Too bad that won't work in court when I'm facing a small army of lawyers...
Also, if there are any other dutch people around here, (hard to imagine there aren't) does any of you have any information on "Stichting Thuiscopy", in whose name the charges are fined? If so, please relay that information to me because I want my 25 * 0,14 back from those thieving bastards!
What's wrong with the "Stop eating everything you come across, move your butt around a bit more and go participate in a physically active sport" method? Excercising like mad isn't a good idea btw, muscle tissue weighs more then fat, so evetually you'll GAIN weight. You'll look all buff though and you can shatter wood with one hand...
I know, same thing in SC3, which is more or less believable I suppose. The warp-bubble (in SC3 at least) needs to constantly up and thus the drive needs to be constantly online or else the ships would drop out of warp. That while the combat system was more realistic. Not a bad game either. :) Unlike Freespace 2 for example... Drives need a constant thrust vector and when you shut down the engines, your craft comes to a full stop in 2 or 3 seconds in a zero-g enviroment. Also, even moon-sized and planet-size ships don't have a field of gravity, whoopee. Has anyone even got a clue what the introduction of a planet-sized object with gravity in a star system might do? Even the slightest bit of gravitational tug on the earth can be disastrous, ranging from diminishing tides, longer or shorter days, a permanent ice age or maybe even turning our little planet into a raging inferno.
Also, do objects with such a huge mass not collapse upon themselves by the gravity they generate? Ah well, it's only sci-fi I guess... I mean, star ships, space stations, time travel, mechas, pretty women wearing tight clothes all the time... It's all an illusion. :(
Mind you, Linux is a fairly complicated OS to manage and maintain. Trying to use and maintain Linux simply requires quite a bit of understanding on how it works as nearly everyone knows. Trying to use Linux without reading up on basic things (like kernel recompiles) and understandin them is like driving a car without experience or a license.
The "Everyone should be able to do everything" idea is what's wrong with computers in general these days. No, John Doe does NOT need to set up an IIS webserver that came with his pirated Windows XP Pro CD. Keep things simple for users instead. Easier for them to understand and easier for professionals to maintain. (Even though I know "professionals" who should be banned from using computers, ugh.)
You people are preaching to the pope here. Apart from the runaway Mac fanatic I think most people here now how to do a simple, boring kernel/module recompile + bootloader install. What's next? A book review for "Installing Red Hat for really really dumb people"?
Also, how the hell do physics work in sci-fi? At least in games, have you noticed how you move along in space by firing up engines to a constant rate of thrust? In space, this would equal a constant rate of acceleration if you forget about minor gravity variances from nearby planets/stars/what-have-ye because there is no drag in space. Also, it's funny that ships in games slow down merely by decreasing the thrust from said engines... Star Trek does this too if I'm not mistaken, with constant thrust from starship engines...
When can I use my HDs merely by putting them within 1 meter of my comp? Screw those stupid & ugly flat cables, I want a nice, clean and wireless solution for this and I'm pretty sure allot of people with me.
Promoters
* AMD
* Hewlett-Packard
* IBM
* Intel Corporation
* Microsoft
First of all, I wonder how MS can be part of a group aimed at "thrustworthy computing" if you look at the current record of MS trustworthiness. It's like inviting Saddam Hussein to participate as advisor for peace talks some place. Second, what is IBM doing in that list? They support Linux as far as I know, but being in a the TCG with members like MS is something odd, at the very least...
Oh dear, must have been a while for you since you went to college. Over here, the system is just horribly messed up. Yes, I realize my parents only want the best for me and that the basic idea of schooling is filling my head with knowledge & experience instead of arousing fantasies involving that girl from another class... Ahem. But still, MOST lessons at my college are absolutely WORTHLESS. I might not be an expert on teaching but I've been in the system long enough to know that handing us one sheet of paper with 20 assignments, stuffing us behind a computer and telling us to shut up for 2+ hours while we work on said assignments is NOT a good way to learn stuff. What happened to this little thing called teaching stuff and actually explaining and helping people? If I were to ask something I'd only get "Oh, look it up in the help files or on the internet."... My parents pay money for that crap?
And then to think that my college is still (relatively) one of the best, which I find HARD to imagine considering the insane amount of things that are on a new level of wrongness ... :(
It was a really REALLY big first fire. Either that, or some neanderthaler who lived solely on beans for 50 years with extreme indigestion blew wind over a firepit...
Been running a nightly 1.4a build since a few days because 1.3 doesn't like my google adress bar search function thingamajig. It's pretty much as lovely as Mozilla 1.3 except it hasn't killed my google adress bar search thingamjiggy... yet.
Otherwise, I still agree that Mozilla is lovely!
You're looking at this from the wrong perspective!
I think it more than likely has got something to do with Taco genuinely LOATHING the admin of rfc-editor.org and thus wants to drive him into financial despair by slashdotting his site five time over...
... or something else.
One April Fool's joke is really funny.
Two April Fool's jokes are amusing.
Three April Fool's jokes are starting to get tiring. Get a move on, people. Is this a news site or a source of comic relief? ...
Really? YOU ARE SO FIRED! has always been a troll so even without realizing it was the first of April (Hey, I'm just awake, I'm allowed to be in a semi-conscious state of mind.) it was clear it was either a joke, bullshit or some goatse links that slipped through thanks to a drunk editor.
But still, it was a funny :)
... haven't we been meaning to get rid of those Visual Basic people? Here's a way.
Spank that bad girl, Timothy! You know you want to, show her whose in charge!
I'm sorry, don't have the time to keep track of every US cruise missile launched against or US bomb dropped on $random_third_world_country, even if I cared.
Clinton attacked Iraq! Crikey! The US media/propaganda centers sure did a good job covering up that one!
They're getting older though... It'd be "Star Trek: Seniors in Space". Although ST has been shit since DS9, I mean... Come on, It's ben way too much ficussed on "character building", I want some action too. I'm sure that even in the future normal human arrogance, greed and innate hostility still remain. Coupled with big-ass spaceships, this SHOULD make an excellent combo. Instead, we're getting to see how Sisco governs a space station with mentally incapable crew, a less annoying incarnation of Wesley Crusher and Silly Putty as a security officer, with the supporting cast of the one and only non-hostile Cardassian and a derelict Ferengi whose brother has the Ferengi equivalent of Down syndrom. Yay.
I'm not even going to mention Voyager. Come on, dealing with the Borg to attack another, even more powerful species and STILL win, with a ship that's build for long range exploration/scouting. I mean, Picard had his ass kicked by the Borg and that was the fcking FLAGSHIP. Also, Janeway is an idiot. "Oh no, we're 75 years away from home! Instead of the quickest route home, we'll visit every little cloud of dust we see and seriously ruin any culture we come across! Tally-ho!"
No more Star Trek for me, I'll miss Shatner and his magically ripped shirts, along with Patrick Stewart and his shiny dome...
I'd like to see this with CounterStrike! No, I don't play the game, I think it's retarded and dull, but can you imagine the interesting voice communication?
CS'er 1: Oh-em-gee! Oh-em-gee! Oh-em-gee!
CS'er 2: Dubbleyou-Tee-Ef???
CS'er 1: Jay-zero-zero wallhacksor! Yur mother is a fag!
CS'er 2: En-zero-zero-bee! Es-Tee-Ef-You! Jay-zero-zero just sucksors!
Would he also say the same thing if a bunch of people hacked his email server and redirected all his crap toward this guy's own personal email box? Or if he was sent those 2 mil AOL CDs? Also, the places where he has his server's, are they protect against hmmm.... "accidents"?