That's the law. Seriously, it is the law. Passed in 2003 amazingly enough.
The Califronia gov't description is the most clear. There is a Federal one too that is more difficult to read through but spells it out: IT workers get Overtime. Period. http://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/FAQ_overtime.htm
You are more right than you know actually. I work for an Indian outsource company. I was outsourced 3+ years ago. I talk to a lot of the guys over there and from over there. These companies now pay their people the same to stay in India as to come to the US. They used to pay them a lot more to come here. But in the last year or more there has been a pretty major wage war as the different India tech companies pilfer talent from each other at an alarming rate. It has led to a lot of turnover.
But then, I've been approached by recruiters here who want to pay me more than I get now. They are just desperate to oversell my skills (fine, unless they oversell to the point the client thinks they're getting a triple CCIE when they're only getting a CCNP/MCSE), and I currently have the best schedule ever being able to work from home anytime I want. If only I didn't have kids I could be making 30% more than I am now.
I agree with the parent. I've got a degree in Poly Sci, so I'm a bit on the outside as Network Architect. But I watch what goes on in my company, and the people who are successful movers and shakers are the ones who have a technical background as their main foundation and have been able to master business skills. Project Management, accounting and that sort of thing.
I know that is what is holding me back right now. I'm at the pinnacle of my advancement unless I get a grip on those things. It's not a bad spot to be in, and my teaching experience gives me good skills to articulate to the suits what needs to be done, but I'm not getting past where I'm at with my current skill set.
I think he's saying this to generate debate and thought about aliens. It's too late to hide. The radio waves are already on their way. But if he's saying this on a TV show he's trying to generate buzz for it and get people thinking about it. It also leads to the conclusion we need to build SDF-1, thereby getting humans into space.
Hawking isn't called a genius for no reason. There is another subtle arguement there that we need to get of this planet to start looking for those resources too.
The original post thinks it would interesting to be the fly on the wall to the "discussions"
I lived over there for 5 years. I don't think it would be quite so interesting unless you haven't been following Chinese politics and all for the past 15 (or 65) years. There will likely be two camps in the Gov't. One that sees the problems of letting a company like Google be forced out of China (call them the Capitalists) and the group that has been trying to make this sort of thing happen ever since the first let foreign companies in in the first place (the Nationalist Communists if you will).
The thing of it is, the Capitalists sympathize with the Nationalists. They just don't want it to be so overt and obvious.
You just have to understand they don't see what they're doing as wrong in any way. Protecting their regime is #1. It has been for thousands of years for whoever is in power there. Currently you can describe it as Nationalism. Go back and read about the lead up to WWI and you'll get a sense of the mind set of many of the people in China, if not the majority. War (with Taiwan) would be glorious, an Empire is a right of China's and to some Everything (worldwide) is part of China and maps should show that.
You don't think the rest of the arab countries are scared out of their wits that Iran might get Nukes? You don't think this has caused the Saudis to pursue their own Nuke program?
Well, I think you need to look a little deeper dude. You'd do well to start with Stratfor.com if it wasn't so expensive. but then a good education is priceless, and boy are you in need of one.
This is Exactly what s happening to celebrities today. Out here in LA there were was a gang of teenage girls that followed al the celeb mags, watched the TV shows where the celebs showed off their houses etc. Then they got on Twitter and face book to see when these celebs left town. BAMN! they robbed the house. Took the police a year to find them!
They had millions of dollars worth of crap they hadn't figured out how to fence!
And for the 5 years I lived there and I certainly did not see any "Social Acceptance" of this. Other things perhaps, but certainly not in public places and on display. If you show this to her and her friends she will NOT be socially accepting, let me tell you!
I agree. This is the first thing that comes to mind when I think of rebooting a game!
I did think about it a little the other night and I'm not sure what more you could add to it other than graphics. Make battles bigger I suppose. Much of the time you were supposed to be commanding grand battles, and you had less than 50 or 60 guys on the board.
But beyond that it'll take some major brainstorming to make this game significantly better and worth doing. Perhaps the guys maintaining the old version have much better ideas than me:)
I'll just add a little here as someone who has interviewed a lot of people for Net Admin jobs in the past few years.
For us, a huge missing factor on the younger applicants is, quite simply, maturity. The advantage older applicants have on this front can't be overstated.
Kids have a tendency to engage in "guerrilla maintenance" as we call it here. Just reboot it and see if it comes back up without considering if doing so will take down production.
Kids also have a tendency to not see the bigger picture of how IT fits into the rest of the company. You have to box them in with ITIL processes to keep them from doing dumb things.
Kids also are also not very good at leadership situations in dealing with others.
Those are just the disadvantages the question poster might use to his advantage. It isn't always true (I've got a 25 year old on my team that has broken all the above descriptions, although he was a student of mine some years ago:))
I'm sure someone else will post all the disadvantages you face as being older, and the advantages of being younger. Read them and consider them in how you will minimize them when looking for a job and working it once you've got it. Although the biggest disadvantage I've seen on older applicants that come into the industry late is low expectations of themselves and their career. Shoot for the stars, not the mud.
I lived in Taiwan and Asia for 5 years. I know and interact with a fair number of Mainland Chinese now that I'm back. Many (most) have Masters degrees or higher and have lived in the US for 10+ years.
The thing I've discovered is they are extremely Nationalist. Because I spent most of my time in Asia in Taiwan and married there I get plenty of earful of how Taiwan (and Tibet) are part of China and how ANYONE who disagrees needs to be beaten up (literally, financially or otherwise) because China is a bigger more powerful entity than anyone else. (might makes right is the prevailing Political theory among the educated)
Nationalism in China is running at levels not seen since August 1914.
So it is not "Slavery = Happiness," But "Nationalism = Happiness."
The communists are really riding a tiger here. They are constantly stoking the flames of Nationalism and desperately dependent on Economic growth to give them legitimacy and allow them continued rule. So long as they can continue to step on the throats of smaller people (Tibet) and have money in their pockets it makes the people feel happy.
Anyways, there are whole volumes of books out there for those that are interested (Look up Tyranny of History (0140146776) to get started). Also ask the next Mainland Chinese person you meet outside of China what he thought of the French President meeting with the Dali Lama recently. You will get some very interesting answers.
A major aspect of The genius of the original 3 was the fact that Lucas started at Episode 4. I was only 7, but I knew roman numerals, and seeing Episode IV scroll accross the screen started me wondering what had gone before, even before the movie had gotten under way.
What this did was make the Star Wars universe a bigger place. Something had come before. And when it ended on Episode 6, it felt like there should be 3 more to round it out, and so it was even bigger.
And then Lucas had to come around and do Episodes 1-3 and destroy all that we had imagined, thereby making the Star Wars universe a lot smaller.
Not knowing for sure how Anakan became Darth Vader, what exactly the clone wars were and how the heck did this deformed looking evil dude (was he even human?) become emperor led to endless speculation that always returned us to watching Episodes 4-6 over and over again.
Now that the questions have been answered, I no longer feel any need to watch anything Star Wars ever again.
I thought this movie was great because Frank Miller's influence could so clearly be seen. You can see Bruce Wayne transforming into the The Darknight from TDK Returns. (Remember Wayne's comment in TDK Returns about being a criminal?) You've got people running around imitating the Batman. You've got the Joker who wouldn't exist without Batman.
I can totally see this going in the direction of TDK Returns. They just have to link him up with the big blue school boy at some point.
I think there is another reason. Controlling a botnet in an enemy country, one like China that has a great big firewall around the whole country, would useful if you wanted to attack targets inside that country.
I lived in Taiwan back during the first Presidintial elections in Chinese history were held. And when the Mainlanders starting lobbing missiles right outside Taiwan ports as part of military "Exercises" etc. And (most relevent to the issue at hand) when Taiwan and China engaged in "Cyberwars."
At the time it was pretty clearly a pissing contest between unorgainzed college students trying to deface websites from the other country. It went on for awhile and then died down. Not long after both sides reportedly started organizing government run groups to attack and defend in these Cyberwars. The fact that no lasting damage was done or suffered by either side didn't really matter. I imagine the Gov't organized groups focused on militarily significant targets than company websites. I suppose going after Google or Amazon might have some economic effect, taking down or defacing a small business's web page does nothing significant.
I am of the opinion that what we are seeing with the CNN attack is just a bunch of Chinese college students who are angry at what they have been told the story is. Your point about "after so many years of communist rule, it is hard for Chinese people to make a distinction between government, communist party, policy and country" is pretty straight on from what I've seen and experienced with Mainland Chinese in America (and a few I met in Taiwan when I was there). This is by design ont he Communist regime's part. (note: there are some exceptions, but they are pretty much keeping their mouth's shut)
I've lived in Taiwan and have many mainland Chinese friends/aquintances.
The latter get divided into two groups: 1. Those that were shocked to hear that anyone in Tibet didn't just love being part of Communist China, and came to accept that many tibetens just wanted China to go away.
2. Those who thought Vietnam, Outer Mongolia and many other parts of Asia and the world were part of China since at one time or another during their History they were part of China (or China was part of them in the case of Mongolia, seriously, I had a conversation once that went that way, the guy thought that since Genghis Khan had conquered China, and his decedents went to Rome, Italy was part of China- Common sense be damned)
I haven't talked with them much over the latest issue, but my wife has. And the latter group is the only one you hear.
Even here in the US, Chinese print Media here in LA parrots Communist media constantly. I haven't gotten a chance to review the Taiwan papers, but it sounds like they aren't too different either.
The Communist regime is riding the tiger of Nationalism big time these days. They are basing their legitemcy on Economic development and blaming all problems on the west. According to Stratfor (and other sources) they could very well have an economic collapse in the near future based on all of their bad debt (they successfully brushed the Asian Flu problem under the rug, but haven't solved it, there is more bad debt in China than ever before or has ever been in any of the countries that got creamed by the Asian Flu a few years ago. My impression is they are donig all they can to keep a lid on it until after the Olympics).
When things go badly Economicly for the Chinese you can rest assured they will blame it all on the West, Japan and Taiwan. Then the Chinese people will ask the regime, How do strike back at these terrible Chinese hating racist rats?
Without an open media/Internet in China to allow dialog between peoples, I beleive we are headed for confrontation. And I don't think it will stop at simple shouting, it's going to get messy. Nothing will happen until after the Olympics, but watch carefully for the year after the Olympics and see if things don't calm down.
Friends I made while in College over D&D all turned out fine. But dang, all the friends from Elementary School in my group all turned into losers. A couple are working for a porn company (theyir jobs are to watch pornos (I kid you not) and figure out what markets to send them to), another is jobless, with no desire to get a job despite living in a crap hole with 2 kids and a wife as well as being a brilliant technician and programmer, one became a lawyer, and... hmmm... Oh and me. I spent 5 years in a foreign country teaching english to little kids for piddly amounts of money per hour and about 14 hours a week.
Thank god my wife beats me any time she catches me sneaking a peek at my old books or I'd end up like that guy living in a crap hole with 2 kids and a wife sitting at home complaining I never had time to do anything productive, like clean the dishes and instead had a size 50 waist.
You are on the right track when it comes to putting them on the spot, but you need to keep it simple and put it in a way anyone (specifically anti-evolutionists) can understand.
Use an example of evolution that is sitting right next to them that's getting its ears scratched by their own hand.
Evolution happened and has been demonstrated in the last 100 years by dog breeders to create a variety of breeds from the toy poodle to the Great Dane, all from basically the same stock. How can you deny this happened?
Clean this up, add in a few specifics of how it happened and who made it happen and you put them on the spot. You can also take examples of farm animals and crops. Farmers have been utilizing the fact of evolution for millennia (give specifics), how can you deny this is happening
Perhaps also point out this has been going on LONG before the scientists have started doing any kind of cloning or genetic engineering and tell them they cant talk about that in their answer (because that is almost certainly how theyll try to get out of it)
Ive been using those two examples for years, and even pastors who vehemently deny evolution fumble on it, every time.
And it reminds me of IUMA.COM that came before MP3.COM. The whole purpose of which was to "Obviate t he business model of the recording industry" as the post puts it.
Looks like its finally down, although it still shows up on Google. (note, I went to school with some of the guys who started the whole thing way back before MP3s even existed)
I think the point of the poster can be taken to mean that Certs gained 10 years ago are worth more today than they were at the time. Having a trail of Certs from NT4 to 2000 to 2003 sure drives home that you've been around during that whole time when your experience list on your Resume also shows that. It also brings home the fact that you're staying up to date with each new release.
So then you get tons of calls from recruiters and employers and eventually you meet one that goes interviews you on the skills you listed in your resume (some tend to jsut see the certs and get crazy ideas of what that means without looking at which electives or your experience. You have no idea how many times I have been exasperated and had to ask recruiters if they READ my resume)
Getting a bunch of up to date certs today may not help you out today, but it sure is nice down the road...
That's the law. Seriously, it is the law. Passed in 2003 amazingly enough.
The Califronia gov't description is the most clear. There is a Federal one too that is more difficult to read through but spells it out: IT workers get Overtime. Period.
http://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/FAQ_overtime.htm
You are more right than you know actually. I work for an Indian outsource company. I was outsourced 3+ years ago. I talk to a lot of the guys over there and from over there. These companies now pay their people the same to stay in India as to come to the US. They used to pay them a lot more to come here. But in the last year or more there has been a pretty major wage war as the different India tech companies pilfer talent from each other at an alarming rate. It has led to a lot of turnover.
But then, I've been approached by recruiters here who want to pay me more than I get now. They are just desperate to oversell my skills (fine, unless they oversell to the point the client thinks they're getting a triple CCIE when they're only getting a CCNP/MCSE), and I currently have the best schedule ever being able to work from home anytime I want. If only I didn't have kids I could be making 30% more than I am now.
I agree with the parent. I've got a degree in Poly Sci, so I'm a bit on the outside as Network Architect. But I watch what goes on in my company, and the people who are successful movers and shakers are the ones who have a technical background as their main foundation and have been able to master business skills. Project Management, accounting and that sort of thing.
I know that is what is holding me back right now. I'm at the pinnacle of my advancement unless I get a grip on those things. It's not a bad spot to be in, and my teaching experience gives me good skills to articulate to the suits what needs to be done, but I'm not getting past where I'm at with my current skill set.
I think he's saying this to generate debate and thought about aliens. It's too late to hide. The radio waves are already on their way. But if he's saying this on a TV show he's trying to generate buzz for it and get people thinking about it. It also leads to the conclusion we need to build SDF-1, thereby getting humans into space.
Hawking isn't called a genius for no reason. There is another subtle arguement there that we need to get of this planet to start looking for those resources too.
Etc etc.
The original post thinks it would interesting to be the fly on the wall to the "discussions"
I lived over there for 5 years. I don't think it would be quite so interesting unless you haven't been following Chinese politics and all for the past 15 (or 65) years. There will likely be two camps in the Gov't. One that sees the problems of letting a company like Google be forced out of China (call them the Capitalists) and the group that has been trying to make this sort of thing happen ever since the first let foreign companies in in the first place (the Nationalist Communists if you will).
The thing of it is, the Capitalists sympathize with the Nationalists. They just don't want it to be so overt and obvious.
You just have to understand they don't see what they're doing as wrong in any way. Protecting their regime is #1. It has been for thousands of years for whoever is in power there. Currently you can describe it as Nationalism. Go back and read about the lead up to WWI and you'll get a sense of the mind set of many of the people in China, if not the majority. War (with Taiwan) would be glorious, an Empire is a right of China's and to some Everything (worldwide) is part of China and maps should show that.
You don't think the rest of the arab countries are scared out of their wits that Iran might get Nukes? You don't think this has caused the Saudis to pursue their own Nuke program?
Well, I think you need to look a little deeper dude. You'd do well to start with Stratfor.com if it wasn't so expensive. but then a good education is priceless, and boy are you in need of one.
This is Exactly what s happening to celebrities today. Out here in LA there were was a gang of teenage girls that followed al the celeb mags, watched the TV shows where the celebs showed off their houses etc. Then they got on Twitter and face book to see when these celebs left town. BAMN! they robbed the house. Took the police a year to find them!
They had millions of dollars worth of crap they hadn't figured out how to fence!
What? "Completely socially accepted?!!"
This is news to my wife, who is from Taiwan.
And for the 5 years I lived there and I certainly did not see any "Social Acceptance" of this. Other things perhaps, but certainly not in public places and on display. If you show this to her and her friends she will NOT be socially accepting, let me tell you!
I agree. This is the first thing that comes to mind when I think of rebooting a game!
I did think about it a little the other night and I'm not sure what more you could add to it other than graphics. Make battles bigger I suppose. Much of the time you were supposed to be commanding grand battles, and you had less than 50 or 60 guys on the board.
But beyond that it'll take some major brainstorming to make this game significantly better and worth doing. Perhaps the guys maintaining the old version have much better ideas than me :)
Google can afford billion dollar lawyers.
"You came in that thing?, Youâ(TM)re braver than I thought"
I'll just add a little here as someone who has interviewed a lot of people for Net Admin jobs in the past few years.
For us, a huge missing factor on the younger applicants is, quite simply, maturity. The advantage older applicants have on this front can't be overstated.
Kids have a tendency to engage in "guerrilla maintenance" as we call it here. Just reboot it and see if it comes back up without considering if doing so will take down production.
Kids also have a tendency to not see the bigger picture of how IT fits into the rest of the company. You have to box them in with ITIL processes to keep them from doing dumb things.
Kids also are also not very good at leadership situations in dealing with others.
Those are just the disadvantages the question poster might use to his advantage. It isn't always true (I've got a 25 year old on my team that has broken all the above descriptions, although he was a student of mine some years ago :))
I'm sure someone else will post all the disadvantages you face as being older, and the advantages of being younger. Read them and consider them in how you will minimize them when looking for a job and working it once you've got it. Although the biggest disadvantage I've seen on older applicants that come into the industry late is low expectations of themselves and their career. Shoot for the stars, not the mud.
Somebody must be getting a computer and a calculator mixed up.
Would make a certain amount of sense. Somebody wants to get lots of free advertising, so they make a fancy calculator and say it's a computer.
Who knows, maybe I'm even right.
(Okay, after RTFA it's the Gov't looking for free publicity and votes).
I suppose we'll see Feb 3rd.
That's what they do. If this story is true, it is likely they have his ear.
I lived in Taiwan and Asia for 5 years. I know and interact with a fair number of Mainland Chinese now that I'm back. Many (most) have Masters degrees or higher and have lived in the US for 10+ years.
The thing I've discovered is they are extremely Nationalist. Because I spent most of my time in Asia in Taiwan and married there I get plenty of earful of how Taiwan (and Tibet) are part of China and how ANYONE who disagrees needs to be beaten up (literally, financially or otherwise) because China is a bigger more powerful entity than anyone else. (might makes right is the prevailing Political theory among the educated)
Nationalism in China is running at levels not seen since August 1914.
So it is not "Slavery = Happiness," But "Nationalism = Happiness."
The communists are really riding a tiger here. They are constantly stoking the flames of Nationalism and desperately dependent on Economic growth to give them legitimacy and allow them continued rule. So long as they can continue to step on the throats of smaller people (Tibet) and have money in their pockets it makes the people feel happy.
Anyways, there are whole volumes of books out there for those that are interested (Look up Tyranny of History (0140146776) to get started). Also ask the next Mainland Chinese person you meet outside of China what he thought of the French President meeting with the Dali Lama recently. You will get some very interesting answers.
A major aspect of The genius of the original 3 was the fact that Lucas started at Episode 4. I was only 7, but I knew roman numerals, and seeing Episode IV scroll accross the screen started me wondering what had gone before, even before the movie had gotten under way.
What this did was make the Star Wars universe a bigger place. Something had come before. And when it ended on Episode 6, it felt like there should be 3 more to round it out, and so it was even bigger.
And then Lucas had to come around and do Episodes 1-3 and destroy all that we had imagined, thereby making the Star Wars universe a lot smaller.
Not knowing for sure how Anakan became Darth Vader, what exactly the clone wars were and how the heck did this deformed looking evil dude (was he even human?) become emperor led to endless speculation that always returned us to watching Episodes 4-6 over and over again.
Now that the questions have been answered, I no longer feel any need to watch anything Star Wars ever again.
That Dan Guy
I thought this movie was great because Frank Miller's influence could so clearly be seen. You can see Bruce Wayne transforming into the The Darknight from TDK Returns. (Remember Wayne's comment in TDK Returns about being a criminal?) You've got people running around imitating the Batman. You've got the Joker who wouldn't exist without Batman.
I can totally see this going in the direction of TDK Returns. They just have to link him up with the big blue school boy at some point.
I think there is another reason. Controlling a botnet in an enemy country, one like China that has a great big firewall around the whole country, would useful if you wanted to attack targets inside that country.
I lived in Taiwan back during the first Presidintial elections in Chinese history were held. And when the Mainlanders starting lobbing missiles right outside Taiwan ports as part of military "Exercises" etc. And (most relevent to the issue at hand) when Taiwan and China engaged in "Cyberwars."
At the time it was pretty clearly a pissing contest between unorgainzed college students trying to deface websites from the other country. It went on for awhile and then died down. Not long after both sides reportedly started organizing government run groups to attack and defend in these Cyberwars. The fact that no lasting damage was done or suffered by either side didn't really matter. I imagine the Gov't organized groups focused on militarily significant targets than company websites. I suppose going after Google or Amazon might have some economic effect, taking down or defacing a small business's web page does nothing significant.
I am of the opinion that what we are seeing with the CNN attack is just a bunch of Chinese college students who are angry at what they have been told the story is. Your point about "after so many years of communist rule, it is hard for Chinese people to make a distinction between government, communist party, policy and country" is pretty straight on from what I've seen and experienced with Mainland Chinese in America (and a few I met in Taiwan when I was there). This is by design ont he Communist regime's part. (note: there are some exceptions, but they are pretty much keeping their mouth's shut)
I've lived in Taiwan and have many mainland Chinese friends/aquintances.
The latter get divided into two groups:
1. Those that were shocked to hear that anyone in Tibet didn't just love being part of Communist China, and came to accept that many tibetens just wanted China to go away.
2. Those who thought Vietnam, Outer Mongolia and many other parts of Asia and the world were part of China since at one time or another during their History they were part of China (or China was part of them in the case of Mongolia, seriously, I had a conversation once that went that way, the guy thought that since Genghis Khan had conquered China, and his decedents went to Rome, Italy was part of China- Common sense be damned)
I haven't talked with them much over the latest issue, but my wife has. And the latter group is the only one you hear.
Even here in the US, Chinese print Media here in LA parrots Communist media constantly. I haven't gotten a chance to review the Taiwan papers, but it sounds like they aren't too different either.
The Communist regime is riding the tiger of Nationalism big time these days. They are basing their legitemcy on Economic development and blaming all problems on the west. According to Stratfor (and other sources) they could very well have an economic collapse in the near future based on all of their bad debt (they successfully brushed the Asian Flu problem under the rug, but haven't solved it, there is more bad debt in China than ever before or has ever been in any of the countries that got creamed by the Asian Flu a few years ago. My impression is they are donig all they can to keep a lid on it until after the Olympics).
When things go badly Economicly for the Chinese you can rest assured they will blame it all on the West, Japan and Taiwan. Then the Chinese people will ask the regime, How do strike back at these terrible Chinese hating racist rats?
Without an open media/Internet in China to allow dialog between peoples, I beleive we are headed for confrontation. And I don't think it will stop at simple shouting, it's going to get messy. Nothing will happen until after the Olympics, but watch carefully for the year after the Olympics and see if things don't calm down.
Friends I made while in College over D&D all turned out fine. But dang, all the friends from Elementary School in my group all turned into losers. A couple are working for a porn company (theyir jobs are to watch pornos (I kid you not) and figure out what markets to send them to), another is jobless, with no desire to get a job despite living in a crap hole with 2 kids and a wife as well as being a brilliant technician and programmer, one became a lawyer, and ... hmmm... Oh and me. I spent 5 years in a foreign country teaching english to little kids for piddly amounts of money per hour and about 14 hours a week.
Thank god my wife beats me any time she catches me sneaking a peek at my old books or I'd end up like that guy living in a crap hole with 2 kids and a wife sitting at home complaining I never had time to do anything productive, like clean the dishes and instead had a size 50 waist.
Do you think IP6 will be implemented by then?
You are on the right track when it comes to putting them on the spot, but you need to keep it simple and put it in a way anyone (specifically anti-evolutionists) can understand.
Use an example of evolution that is sitting right next to them that's getting its ears scratched by their own hand.
Evolution happened and has been demonstrated in the last 100 years by dog breeders to create a variety of breeds from the toy poodle to the Great Dane, all from basically the same stock. How can you deny this happened?
Clean this up, add in a few specifics of how it happened and who made it happen and you put them on the spot. You can also take examples of farm animals and crops. Farmers have been utilizing the fact of evolution for millennia (give specifics), how can you deny this is happening
Perhaps also point out this has been going on LONG before the scientists have started doing any kind of cloning or genetic engineering and tell them they cant talk about that in their answer (because that is almost certainly how theyll try to get out of it)
Ive been using those two examples for years, and even pastors who vehemently deny evolution fumble on it, every time.
And it reminds me of IUMA.COM that came before MP3.COM. The whole purpose of which was to "Obviate t he business model of the recording industry" as the post puts it.
Looks like its finally down, although it still shows up on Google. (note, I went to school with some of the guys who started the whole thing way back before MP3s even existed)
I think the point of the poster can be taken to mean that Certs gained 10 years ago are worth more today than they were at the time. Having a trail of Certs from NT4 to 2000 to 2003 sure drives home that you've been around during that whole time when your experience list on your Resume also shows that. It also brings home the fact that you're staying up to date with each new release.
So then you get tons of calls from recruiters and employers and eventually you meet one that goes interviews you on the skills you listed in your resume (some tend to jsut see the certs and get crazy ideas of what that means without looking at which electives or your experience. You have no idea how many times I have been exasperated and had to ask recruiters if they READ my resume)
Getting a bunch of up to date certs today may not help you out today, but it sure is nice down the road...