I'd love to play with him. the biggest thing thats turned me off from halo 2 is the rude behavior of all the players: I don't like all that dirty talking either... and I'm only 24.
I already have a tv. I use it to watch programs, and play games with my other systems. I already pay for electricity: i use it to power my computer and my air conditioner, etc.... as for controllers? yeah, why not include that in the cost? I remember back when I was a kid, when systems used to come with two controllers, a light gun, and a freaking robot! and at least one game!
I don't have any games that run on the x360 hardware that I can't just play on my plain old xbox. if i'm upgrading, I'm counting cost of *reason* to upgrade as part of the price. if microsoft wants to give me free games for buying a $400 console, then thats fine. if not, well, its a $500 system.
(it should also be noted that even if you go the cheap rout, you still have to get a game to use the darn thing with, as well as a memorycard, since it doesn't include a hard drive. this is fairly common practice in the whole console field, and its really one I don't care much for.)
its important to note that "basic" means you get to send voice messages and pay (using a micropayment system) to buy stuff that wasn't included in the game. the basic "silver" live accounts do not allow you to play games online, it just means you can plug your xbox into the net and give them money for stuff that the game developers were too cheap to include on the disc.
this also assumes you shell out $500 for the SUPER DELUXE version of the 360, that includes the hard drive, so you actually have a place to save the things you've downloaded (and a communicator, which doesn't come standard with the cheaper system., but can be purchased at additional cost)
you're only a child for what, 10 years? 15 at most, really. assuming you're able to survive to old age, you're an adult for much, much longer than that.
by all means, protect the children, but don't do it at the expense of those of us who are able to survive past the larval stage.
I've looked at pictures of this thing, and for the life of me, I can't find anything resembling a port for gamelink cable (or wireless adaptor). does the micro not support that?
Christian Dogma, boiled down:
ALL people are "bad"
"Good" is defined as absolute perfection in every possible way.
No person can be "good"
ALL people can be forgiven for being "bad"
Forgiveness comes by being a good little sheep, submitting to our authority, and giving your money to the church. if you can "convert" your friends, and get them to submit to our authority and give us money, surely a spot in heaven shall be reserved for you. for everyone who thinks for themselves and doesn't submit, painful burning torment for all eternity.
the weinstein's are notorious for making cuts. they do NOT like long movies, and have cut huge chunks out of imported cinematic feasts such as "Cinema Paradiso" and "life is beautiful." Princess Mononoke, the movie that was localized by Miramax's staff, is considered to be long for an animated movie. it was also more violent than anything that disney has ever produced.
A plus side of this, for those that wish the ommunity to protect the precious moral fiber of their children, is that there would be a disincentive to produce games with 'objectionable' material. There's a very real reason that the movie industry bothers to publish PG13 titles... catch the drift?
which is sad, in my book. sometimes, you just have to say "Ok, no kids allowed." if you try to please everyone, you'll make crap. I can list a handful of movies, right now, that were trimmed back to get "pg-13" ratings, which, I feel, caused them to not be as good as if they'd just released as R. for that matter. its this "oh no, we must protect the children!" mentality that is ruining adult entertainment EVERYWHERE. and, lets all remember, you're an adult most of your life, you're only a child for a small part. would *you* be happy if the only tv shows were mickey mouse dreck that is 'family safe,' but lacks in any real appeal for grown-ups?
stop punishing those of us who have survived long enough to be considered 'adult'. by all means, protect the children, but don't do it at the expense of the *majority* of the population. Tell your brats "no." if you find out they're playing GTA at a friend's house, tell them that they can't visit that friend anymore. if they persist, spank them, ground them, but above all PAY ATTENTION to what your brats are doing!
Don't get me wrong, I like the 'game,' its a very interesting simulation, but I ran out of things to do. you can walk the dog, go shopping, have it compete in contests, or just play with it in the house. the game has no real sense of purpose, and no real progression, and everything you can do in the first day of owning the game is exactly what you can do on the 8th. I really wanted to like nintendogs, but its already boring me. i've moved on to a new guilty pleasure for ds: "Nightmare Troubadour," which I can HIGHLY reccomend to anyone interested in collectible card games but doesn't want to spend a fortune making the perfect deck.... but i digress.
I wish I still wanted to play Nintendogs, but it has gotten boring already.. which makes me sad, because it could have had real potential.
I tend to call movies like Star Wars and other modern examples of "sci-fi" by a different name: "Science Fantasy." I call it that, because I understand that real science fiction is what you described, and fantasy stories with technological trappings is what Star Wars is. Interestingly enough, I tend to enjoy "science fantasy" a lot more than "science fiction," because I like the exciting plots and action set pieces, and the fact that the story is about something happening, as opposed to a fictional exploration of a scientific concept. Science fiction tends to bore me, and I have to be in the mood for it, and it has to be really interesting for me to care.
"interesting commentary on today's society... people would rather invest time in a virtual war with no consequences than accept the responsibility of starting an actual war."
I could name at least one person who probably ought to be playing a virtual war rather than destroying real lives...
yes, you absolutely would be right in complaining about it. someone's talking ruined your experience. if the movie is in english, and not subtitled for non english speakers (oh god, i hope that never happens), people who are talking in the film to translate it are still disrupting the film. I would not only have complained, I would have gotten up *during* the movie to do it.
you know the people at movies who talk, bring screaming children to movies inapropriate to them, forget to turn their cellphones off, and are generally annoying? I'm not one of them.
you know the other person, the rare kind, who yells "SHUT UP!" at the first group of people when they start misbehaving? yeah, that one's me. and I've actually gotten applause for it. I do feel like I may be disturbing the movie, too, and I feel bad about it, I do, but if you people can't control yourselves/your children/your cellphone, I'm going to yell at you to shut up.
ok, i was being a smartass, i concede.. at least, I would have, until you asked me to prove that the rest of the universe didn't rotate around the earth. wow.. just. wow. I presume you realize the earth isn't flat, and not on top of a pile of turtles all the way down, right?
but seriously, aside from the childish thought that the world revolves around you, we can prove the earth revolves around the sun (as opposed to the other way around) fairly conclusively based on seasonal weather patterns in conjunction with the movement of other bodies in space (say, planets, for an obvious example) and the positional impact on their weather patterns based on their varying positions in orbit. I suppose, you could always argue against it, but then, there are still people who argue in favor of creationism---err, excuse me, "intelligent design."
the only constant in this univese is that everything is always, ALWAYS moving. *but* of course, this is a discussion about videogame violence, and not a flamewar on astrophysics, so i'm going to shut up now. hopefully, you'll take my initial snarky concept as it was intended, and get back onto the subject at hand: that can be easily summarized in one brief phrase: Jack Thompson is an opportunistic asshole.
you're both wrong. its a matter of perspective. sure, the sun may look like it is rising or setting while on earth, but in actuality, none of that is happening at all! so, i suppose, the question should not be which happened first, but more along the line of "the sun ever really rise or set at all, and if it does, how will that impact earth's ecology?"
so, I'm wondering if sega could release a roster update (via xbox live) for their last year's ESPN game? that was quite a good one: beautiful graphics, LESS-REPETITIVE commentary, and just great overall... would it be legal for them to release a roster update, moving players around, and creating "custom create-a-player" style players for the few players who weren't in the NFL last season? can sega do that, and not invoke the ire of the NFL's licensing department?
...and if they can't, when will someone come up with a good replacement webpage showing me exactly how to manually tap it into a customized roster myself?
is there any word on what the differences between xbox live silver and higher level versions (I assume gold, maybe platinum?) might include? if silver is free, what do I get for paying?
growing up, i was a geek, and shunned sports. I even thought that watching sports was even more useless than playing, because really, you're watching other people play a game, rather than playing it yourself!
but then, i was dragged to a football game by some friends, and... I had a blast. i've grown to enjoy football, because, it turns out, its actually incredibly nerdy in its own way. sure, the people on the field are mostly musclehead jocks, but the depth of strategies involved is pretty amazing. in ways, it turns out to be a turn-based / real time strategy game for the coaches, using the players as pawns. There is a lot of specific terminology, moreso than most other sports, and its actually incredibly deep, and i find it to be a more strategic, thoughtful game than most other sports i've witnessed. Football can fall apart if the team isn't working together, but most other sports seem to be more based on a team of individuals.
back on topic, a Baseball MMO would probably be the best game for a sports MMO, because ultimately, every player serves dual roles, and its a lot more reliant on the individual player as opposed to team coordinated action, while still being based on teamplay. it'll be interesting to watch what happens.
I like to think everyone isequal, however, being equal doesn't mean everyone is the same. I'd like to think i'm smarter than the average bear.. but I if you were to ask me to lift a heavy object, I'd fail. If you asked me to run a marathon, I'd lose. And don't even ask me to play on your football team.
I'd probably score higher in a test of mental wits, then someone who could lift the heavy objects or win the marathon or play on the football team, though.
Another great thing about being human, is that even if we're naturally inclined to lift weights or run marathons or play football or be smartasses, with a bit of physical training or study in front of some books, we can usually train ourselves to be what we want to be. But some people are more naturally inclined to do some things than others, and yes, genetics does in fact tilt that scale.
But of course, thats just our liberal ideology. no, not everyone is born equal. if that were the case, we wouldn't have people born with handicaps that make it impossible for them to live a normal life.
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I'd love to play with him. the biggest thing thats turned me off from halo 2 is the rude behavior of all the players: I don't like all that dirty talking either... and I'm only 24.
I already have a tv. I use it to watch programs, and play games with my other systems. I already pay for electricity: i use it to power my computer and my air conditioner, etc.... as for controllers? yeah, why not include that in the cost? I remember back when I was a kid, when systems used to come with two controllers, a light gun, and a freaking robot! and at least one game! I don't have any games that run on the x360 hardware that I can't just play on my plain old xbox. if i'm upgrading, I'm counting cost of *reason* to upgrade as part of the price. if microsoft wants to give me free games for buying a $400 console, then thats fine. if not, well, its a $500 system. (it should also be noted that even if you go the cheap rout, you still have to get a game to use the darn thing with, as well as a memorycard, since it doesn't include a hard drive. this is fairly common practice in the whole console field, and its really one I don't care much for.)
are you counting a game or two as part of the cost? I am. I can play my regular xbox games on my xbox.
midway arcade treasures compilation 1 has smash tv. and its available now, for all three home consoles.
its important to note that "basic" means you get to send voice messages and pay (using a micropayment system) to buy stuff that wasn't included in the game. the basic "silver" live accounts do not allow you to play games online, it just means you can plug your xbox into the net and give them money for stuff that the game developers were too cheap to include on the disc.
this also assumes you shell out $500 for the SUPER DELUXE version of the 360, that includes the hard drive, so you actually have a place to save the things you've downloaded (and a communicator, which doesn't come standard with the cheaper system., but can be purchased at additional cost)
the x360 is too expensive.
you're only a child for what, 10 years? 15 at most, really. assuming you're able to survive to old age, you're an adult for much, much longer than that.
by all means, protect the children, but don't do it at the expense of those of us who are able to survive past the larval stage.
I've looked at pictures of this thing, and for the life of me, I can't find anything resembling a port for gamelink cable (or wireless adaptor). does the micro not support that?
you made a mistake. let me correct that for you:
Christian Dogma, boiled down:
ALL people are "bad"
"Good" is defined as absolute perfection in every possible way.
No person can be "good"
ALL people can be forgiven for being "bad"
Forgiveness comes by being a good little sheep, submitting to our authority, and giving your money to the church. if you can "convert" your friends, and get them to submit to our authority and give us money, surely a spot in heaven shall be reserved for you. for everyone who thinks for themselves and doesn't submit, painful burning torment for all eternity.
the weinstein's are notorious for making cuts. they do NOT like long movies, and have cut huge chunks out of imported cinematic feasts such as "Cinema Paradiso" and "life is beautiful." Princess Mononoke, the movie that was localized by Miramax's staff, is considered to be long for an animated movie. it was also more violent than anything that disney has ever produced.
Boong-ga Boong-ga
and I think (could be mistaken) that robotron 64 had a mode for two controllers, using one analog stick to move, the other to aim/shoot.
A plus side of this, for those that wish the ommunity to protect the precious moral fiber of their children, is that there would be a disincentive to produce games with 'objectionable' material. There's a very real reason that the movie industry bothers to publish PG13 titles... catch the drift?
which is sad, in my book. sometimes, you just have to say "Ok, no kids allowed." if you try to please everyone, you'll make crap. I can list a handful of movies, right now, that were trimmed back to get "pg-13" ratings, which, I feel, caused them to not be as good as if they'd just released as R. for that matter. its this "oh no, we must protect the children!" mentality that is ruining adult entertainment EVERYWHERE. and, lets all remember, you're an adult most of your life, you're only a child for a small part. would *you* be happy if the only tv shows were mickey mouse dreck that is 'family safe,' but lacks in any real appeal for grown-ups?
stop punishing those of us who have survived long enough to be considered 'adult'. by all means, protect the children, but don't do it at the expense of the *majority* of the population. Tell your brats "no." if you find out they're playing GTA at a friend's house, tell them that they can't visit that friend anymore. if they persist, spank them, ground them, but above all PAY ATTENTION to what your brats are doing!
Don't get me wrong, I like the 'game,' its a very interesting simulation, but I ran out of things to do. you can walk the dog, go shopping, have it compete in contests, or just play with it in the house. the game has no real sense of purpose, and no real progression, and everything you can do in the first day of owning the game is exactly what you can do on the 8th. I really wanted to like nintendogs, but its already boring me. i've moved on to a new guilty pleasure for ds: "Nightmare Troubadour," which I can HIGHLY reccomend to anyone interested in collectible card games but doesn't want to spend a fortune making the perfect deck.... but i digress.
I wish I still wanted to play Nintendogs, but it has gotten boring already.. which makes me sad, because it could have had real potential.
I tend to call movies like Star Wars and other modern examples of "sci-fi" by a different name: "Science Fantasy." I call it that, because I understand that real science fiction is what you described, and fantasy stories with technological trappings is what Star Wars is. Interestingly enough, I tend to enjoy "science fantasy" a lot more than "science fiction," because I like the exciting plots and action set pieces, and the fact that the story is about something happening, as opposed to a fictional exploration of a scientific concept. Science fiction tends to bore me, and I have to be in the mood for it, and it has to be really interesting for me to care.
"interesting commentary on today's society... people would rather invest time in a virtual war with no consequences than accept the responsibility of starting an actual war."
I could name at least one person who probably ought to be playing a virtual war rather than destroying real lives...
yes, you absolutely would be right in complaining about it. someone's talking ruined your experience. if the movie is in english, and not subtitled for non english speakers (oh god, i hope that never happens), people who are talking in the film to translate it are still disrupting the film. I would not only have complained, I would have gotten up *during* the movie to do it.
you know the people at movies who talk, bring screaming children to movies inapropriate to them, forget to turn their cellphones off, and are generally annoying? I'm not one of them.
you know the other person, the rare kind, who yells "SHUT UP!" at the first group of people when they start misbehaving? yeah, that one's me. and I've actually gotten applause for it. I do feel like I may be disturbing the movie, too, and I feel bad about it, I do, but if you people can't control yourselves/your children/your cellphone, I'm going to yell at you to shut up.
+ tax, of course, + the monthly fee for xbox live gold which will allow you to play games online (as mentioned by another reply) I'll wait, thanks.
ok, i was being a smartass, i concede.. at least, I would have, until you asked me to prove that the rest of the universe didn't rotate around the earth. wow.. just. wow. I presume you realize the earth isn't flat, and not on top of a pile of turtles all the way down, right?
but seriously, aside from the childish thought that the world revolves around you, we can prove the earth revolves around the sun (as opposed to the other way around) fairly conclusively based on seasonal weather patterns in conjunction with the movement of other bodies in space (say, planets, for an obvious example) and the positional impact on their weather patterns based on their varying positions in orbit. I suppose, you could always argue against it, but then, there are still people who argue in favor of creationism---err, excuse me, "intelligent design."
the only constant in this univese is that everything is always, ALWAYS moving. *but* of course, this is a discussion about videogame violence, and not a flamewar on astrophysics, so i'm going to shut up now. hopefully, you'll take my initial snarky concept as it was intended, and get back onto the subject at hand: that can be easily summarized in one brief phrase: Jack Thompson is an opportunistic asshole.
you're both wrong. its a matter of perspective. sure, the sun may look like it is rising or setting while on earth, but in actuality, none of that is happening at all! so, i suppose, the question should not be which happened first, but more along the line of "the sun ever really rise or set at all, and if it does, how will that impact earth's ecology?"
so, I'm wondering if sega could release a roster update (via xbox live) for their last year's ESPN game? that was quite a good one: beautiful graphics, LESS-REPETITIVE commentary, and just great overall... would it be legal for them to release a roster update, moving players around, and creating "custom create-a-player" style players for the few players who weren't in the NFL last season? can sega do that, and not invoke the ire of the NFL's licensing department?
...and if they can't, when will someone come up with a good replacement webpage showing me exactly how to manually tap it into a customized roster myself?
is there any word on what the differences between xbox live silver and higher level versions (I assume gold, maybe platinum?) might include? if silver is free, what do I get for paying?
how long till intrepid game hackers start putting ad-blocker mods out for these games?
growing up, i was a geek, and shunned sports. I even thought that watching sports was even more useless than playing, because really, you're watching other people play a game, rather than playing it yourself!
but then, i was dragged to a football game by some friends, and... I had a blast. i've grown to enjoy football, because, it turns out, its actually incredibly nerdy in its own way. sure, the people on the field are mostly musclehead jocks, but the depth of strategies involved is pretty amazing. in ways, it turns out to be a turn-based / real time strategy game for the coaches, using the players as pawns. There is a lot of specific terminology, moreso than most other sports, and its actually incredibly deep, and i find it to be a more strategic, thoughtful game than most other sports i've witnessed.
Football can fall apart if the team isn't working together, but most other sports seem to be more based on a team of individuals.
back on topic, a Baseball MMO would probably be the best game for a sports MMO, because ultimately, every player serves dual roles, and its a lot more reliant on the individual player as opposed to team coordinated action, while still being based on teamplay. it'll be interesting to watch what happens.
I like to think everyone isequal, however, being equal doesn't mean everyone is the same. I'd like to think i'm smarter than the average bear.. but I if you were to ask me to lift a heavy object, I'd fail. If you asked me to run a marathon, I'd lose. And don't even ask me to play on your football team.
I'd probably score higher in a test of mental wits, then someone who could lift the heavy objects or win the marathon or play on the football team, though.
Another great thing about being human, is that even if we're naturally inclined to lift weights or run marathons or play football or be smartasses, with a bit of physical training or study in front of some books, we can usually train ourselves to be what we want to be. But some people are more naturally inclined to do some things than others, and yes, genetics does in fact tilt that scale.
But of course, thats just our liberal ideology. no, not everyone is born equal. if that were the case, we wouldn't have people born with handicaps that make it impossible for them to live a normal life.