As well as people have previously asked SuSE and they've said yes as long as you don't distribute for profit.
Well if the software is all GPL they can't enforce that restriction. YaST was under it's own license and that was how they enforced that request. Now I'm not as sure but I suspect you are correct.
YaST is now GPL but how does that apply to the rest of the software in Suse personal and professional? I downloaded a copy of the ISOs for SuSE pro 9.1 from a private FTP site that I found on LinuxISO.org. But I've never been sure how legal that was.
A Linux Users Group that I am a member of was asked a couple of years ago to stop selling or even giving out copies of SuSE. They said they didn't mind if you copy for a friend but any organized duping they would take action against.
Has this changed? And could someone point to an offical statement from SuSE?
Once you have crafted a perfect product that most of the market is now using how to you generate more sales? For software engineers can perfection be to good?
It is a legit question. One the Mozilla Foundation has waffled on. Mozilla has stated more then once that firefox would replace Mozilla as the browser or be integrated back into it by version 2 and they have also stated that they plan on parallel development of both. No one seems to know.
I personally like Mozilla over Firefox and hope they keep both but the Mozilla team at times lacks direction. Which is one of the reasons the Firefox browser has changed names 3 times and Mozilla doesn't seem to have a firm logo use and other issues requarding marketing and image.
Well except the computers take deskspace away from units that need repair, upgrades, or other duties that the IT staff has to perform. They can't blow away the disks in somebody's cubical. You got to have room and time to setup this AND attend to the routine duties of the IT staff. (Which anit as big as it use to be in most shops.) Also if this is an upgrade of a lot of workstations then management will be wanting to sell the equipiment fast. This gets outsourced for a reason.
A company shouldn't let a disk off the premises without wiping it themselves -- it's a trivial process, as many other posts are detailing their favorite methids I won't bother.
Well the problem is the process is NOT trivial. To do a multipass wipe that meets DOD or better standards is very time consuming. I DOD wiped my 40gb harddrive using Boot'N Nuke and it took 18 hours to complete. In house IT staff must be able to setup, wipe, and then dispose of the system. If this is part of a workstation rollout that could mean hundreds of extra man-hours to secure the data. At that rate it becomes cheaper to simply physically destroy the hard drives or at least outsoure the job to a company that does this kind of work. But you risk trusting the data to third parties.
If you haven't patched after two months, you're just the same as all those people who got hit with Blaster, which was also already patched beforehand. Linux distros issue security patches for their vulnerabilities weekly and nobody complains, but when Microsoft releases a patch, suddenly it's this huge issue to run a tiny executable that plugs security flaws, and then people bitch at Windows two months later when a virus comes out to exploit it...
As one that must manage both Windows boxes and Linux ones I regularly patch both as needed, The problem with Windows is that vast herd of numnuts that are too stupid, ignorant and or lazy, to patch the Windows boxes they sit in front of every evening as they surf porn and IM chat. Also windows boxes are a pain to patch. Reboot, Reboot, Reboot. I can patch my server via a SSH connection and never have to even see the box and do all the patches in one pass. It is rare thing to be able to do that on a windows box. Add the fact that I've got only a handful of linux units vs. a large number of Windows clients and it gets to be a major hassle to upgrade and patch 'em.
I agree that government should prevent blatant abuse or taking extreme advantage of desperate people but I can't see how targeted advertising equals usery. This is not depriving anyone of funds people aren't going to sign up for this to get a quick fix only to be unable to pay later.
Personally the first officer and Phlox are the only interesting characters on the show. Trinner IS a good actor. Bacula's acting is forced and all the other actors just don't really get enough time to really be developed. Phlox, I first thought was going to be Nelix redone and in some ways he is but this performance is much better. He shows the proper emotion and out of world viewpoint that makes his character worth watching IMHO. All the Vulcans on the show are totally miss done. So much so that I can't seem to recognize them as such.
But you are correct about Trek characters in general. Except for DS9 no trek show ever gave any depth to it's characters and for the most part DS9 is the only show that I've liked 90% of the time. TNG only had two real good seasons IHMO the 3rd and 4th. Maybe some of the 5th. First two were chaos and the last two started to run dry.
Voyager was a joke and I've only seen about half of the episodes. It couldn't ever hold my interest. Enterprise is having the same problem with me. I've missed about a third of the shows yet I can still follow the plot. It is just a waste. If it dies it will not be a great loss.
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This is an example of how fucked up our laws are requarding businesses. This isn't a Microsoft is evil example this is a basic corporate fact and is an example why corporations exist. Corporations are by design intended to protect individuals(the owners ) because the only thing you can do to a corporation is take it's money and as it job is to make money it will simply treat such an event as a loss of profit and it will react as such. If other operating costs go up then that would effect the price too. The only way you are going to change corporate behavior is by holding those in charge responsible for it's acts not the corporation. Except for a corporate charter many actions could be tried under conspiracy or even racketeering laws but that corporate charter insulates the owners from that. Change incorporation laws and this would stop.
Have you found any attempts to break WINE? Programs that in your opinion had code put in just to make it difficult for WINE to run?
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Ok maybe I just an old troglodyte. But I just want a normal cell phone. Truth is I don't even want that but modern life requires I have one. I don't want to use it for SMS messages(except as a true pager) nor games or taking photos. I have real devices for all those things. Why do I want half assed versions crammed into a phone?
Not to mention the privacy issues with them. I can't go to the movies or a restraunt without some damn cell phone going off. I went into the restroom at Walmart recently and some guy was being arested for snapping photos of other guys privates with a phone. If I'm at the checkout at a walmart and someone is using a phone I'm VERY carefull about trying to block his line of site as I enter my PIN numbers. Why are we putting up with this?
I agree with you that Linux must make a better product not an equal product. But like it or not it is a Windows world.
"When people send me Excel files, I kindly ask them to re-send the file in CSV or some other format."
By doing that are you "making a stand that Joe User will notice" or just being an irritant that will make people avoid dealing with you(assuming they have that choice).
Linux is going to have to do both. Show that it can work with Windows, easily, AND do it better. You attitude about file formats just shows them that Linux is neither.
Put Spywareblaster and Spywareguard on their systems maybe even a host file. Still not a perfect solution but will most likely keep them out of trouble.
I switched the few units I had on RH to SuSE about 6 months ago. Sure you don't have ISOs to download but you can WGET the FTP site and do your own private, in house FTP install just as easily. SuSE stable and has good documentation.
It is still a computerized system that most users, myself included, have limited to no skills to verify. I have to trust others to tell me if it is safe or not. Others who could be bought or otherwise influenced to lie to me. Also so you build an OS system that I like. On election day how do I check out the machine? I doubt they will let me down it and examine it before I cast my vote. Ballot box tampering occurs all the time. How will this be any less prone to that?
Give me a paper and a pencil and count the ballots AT THE POLLING PLACE in full view of the public. That is the ONLY method I'll trust.
Trademark law specifically forbids using modified names that sound similar to a product. I can't make a copier and call it Terox because that sounds too much like Xerox. I can't create a detergent and call it OceanTide because of the trademark on Tide.
You are under the common misconception that "confusion" is the only thing forbidden in trademark law. You can't invoke, even indirectly, a trademark simply to promote your product. That is what a trademark IS. A unique symbol, image, or word(s) that reminds the customer of your product or service. And you get FULL control over how it is used. Someone playing word games is invoking indirectly the image of your product to promote there own and that is a blatant and clear violation of the purpose of a trademark.
Indeed Lindows doesn't deny that they are playing on the name. Their claim, one which I disagree with, is that Windows is a generic term and thus is untrademarkable. If Windows isn't a valid mark then Robertson can play all the word games he wants. That is what he won the right to do in the US. He didn't destroy the link to the Windows trademark. He invalidated the Windows trademark. For Robertson that had the same effect. For Microsoft it put it's entire Windows trademark in jeopardy.
I don't agree with the courts ruling that Windows is a generic term. A trademark must be famous and distinctive in order to be a valid mark. Windows qualifies as both. If I say "I'm running Windows" we all know that I'm refereeing to the product from the company Microsoft. There is no confusion with panes of glass in buildings, nor is their confusion with the GUI element of a window either. Windows is as distinctive to computers as Apple, also a generic term, is to computers. Both are valid marks and I expect that the ruling will be overturned back into Microsoft's favor.
I'm not found of Microsoft but Robertson is a troll using trickery and cheap PR moves to promote his product. He always has done that. He is a cheap thug with all the morals of a used car sales man. He does the Linux world a disservice. I usually root against Microsoft but this time I hope they squash this guy like the little bug he is.
Naw never work. I can't get that jackass Postal puke to stop putting my mail in the next door neighbor's box so how is going to get it to the correct cave.
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As well as people have previously asked SuSE and they've said yes as long as you don't distribute for profit.
Well if the software is all GPL they can't enforce that restriction. YaST was under it's own license and that was how they enforced that request. Now I'm not as sure but I suspect you are correct.
YaST is now GPL but how does that apply to the rest of the software in Suse personal and professional? I downloaded a copy of the ISOs for SuSE pro 9.1 from a private FTP site that I found on LinuxISO.org. But I've never been sure how legal that was.
A Linux Users Group that I am a member of was asked a couple of years ago to stop selling or even giving out copies of SuSE. They said they didn't mind if you copy for a friend but any organized duping they would take action against.
Has this changed? And could someone point to an offical statement from SuSE?
Once you have crafted a perfect product that most of the market is now using how to you generate more sales? For software engineers can perfection be to good?
It is a legit question. One the Mozilla Foundation has waffled on. Mozilla has stated more then once that firefox would replace Mozilla as the browser or be integrated back into it by version 2 and they have also stated that they plan on parallel development of both. No one seems to know.
I personally like Mozilla over Firefox and hope they keep both but the Mozilla team at times lacks direction. Which is one of the reasons the Firefox browser has changed names 3 times and Mozilla doesn't seem to have a firm logo use and other issues requarding marketing and image.
Well except the computers take deskspace away from units that need repair, upgrades, or other duties that the IT staff has to perform. They can't blow away the disks in somebody's cubical. You got to have room and time to setup this AND attend to the routine duties of the IT staff. (Which anit as big as it use to be in most shops.) Also if this is an upgrade of a lot of workstations then management will be wanting to sell the equipiment fast. This gets outsourced for a reason.
Well the problem is the process is NOT trivial. To do a multipass wipe that meets DOD or better standards is very time consuming. I DOD wiped my 40gb harddrive using Boot'N Nuke and it took 18 hours to complete. In house IT staff must be able to setup, wipe, and then dispose of the system. If this is part of a workstation rollout that could mean hundreds of extra man-hours to secure the data. At that rate it becomes cheaper to simply physically destroy the hard drives or at least outsoure the job to a company that does this kind of work. But you risk trusting the data to third parties.
As one that must manage both Windows boxes and Linux ones I regularly patch both as needed, The problem with Windows is that vast herd of numnuts that are too stupid, ignorant and or lazy, to patch the Windows boxes they sit in front of every evening as they surf porn and IM chat. Also windows boxes are a pain to patch. Reboot, Reboot, Reboot. I can patch my server via a SSH connection and never have to even see the box and do all the patches in one pass. It is rare thing to be able to do that on a windows box. Add the fact that I've got only a handful of linux units vs. a large number of Windows clients and it gets to be a major hassle to upgrade and patch 'em.
I agree that government should prevent blatant abuse or taking extreme advantage of desperate people but I can't see how targeted advertising equals usery. This is not depriving anyone of funds people aren't going to sign up for this to get a quick fix only to be unable to pay later.
Personally the first officer and Phlox are the only interesting characters on the show. Trinner IS a good actor. Bacula's acting is forced and all the other actors just don't really get enough time to really be developed. Phlox, I first thought was going to be Nelix redone and in some ways he is but this performance is much better. He shows the proper emotion and out of world viewpoint that makes his character worth watching IMHO. All the Vulcans on the show are totally miss done. So much so that I can't seem to recognize them as such.
But you are correct about Trek characters in general. Except for DS9 no trek show ever gave any depth to it's characters and for the most part DS9 is the only show that I've liked 90% of the time. TNG only had two real good seasons IHMO the 3rd and 4th. Maybe some of the 5th. First two were chaos and the last two started to run dry.
Voyager was a joke and I've only seen about half of the episodes. It couldn't ever hold my interest. Enterprise is having the same problem with me. I've missed about a third of the shows yet I can still follow the plot. It is just a waste. If it dies it will not be a great loss.
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Do a google search on Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad Company. You'll find references.
This is an example of how fucked up our laws are requarding businesses. This isn't a Microsoft is evil example this is a basic corporate fact and is an example why corporations exist. Corporations are by design intended to protect individuals(the owners ) because the only thing you can do to a corporation is take it's money and as it job is to make money it will simply treat such an event as a loss of profit and it will react as such. If other operating costs go up then that would effect the price too. The only way you are going to change corporate behavior is by holding those in charge responsible for it's acts not the corporation. Except for a corporate charter many actions could be tried under conspiracy or even racketeering laws but that corporate charter insulates the owners from that. Change incorporation laws and this would stop.
Have you found any attempts to break WINE? Programs that in your opinion had code put in just to make it difficult for WINE to run?
Ok maybe I just an old troglodyte. But I just want a normal cell phone. Truth is I don't even want that but modern life requires I have one. I don't want to use it for SMS messages(except as a true pager) nor games or taking photos. I have real devices for all those things. Why do I want half assed versions crammed into a phone?
Not to mention the privacy issues with them. I can't go to the movies or a restraunt without some damn cell phone going off. I went into the restroom at Walmart recently and some guy was being arested for snapping photos of other guys privates with a phone. If I'm at the checkout at a walmart and someone is using a phone I'm VERY carefull about trying to block his line of site as I enter my PIN numbers. Why are we putting up with this?
I agree with you that Linux must make a better product not an equal product. But like it or not it is a Windows world.
"When people send me Excel files, I kindly ask them to re-send the file in CSV or some other format."
By doing that are you "making a stand that Joe User will notice" or just being an irritant that will make people avoid dealing with you(assuming they have that choice).
Linux is going to have to do both. Show that it can work with Windows, easily, AND do it better. You attitude about file formats just shows them that Linux is neither.
Put Spywareblaster and Spywareguard on their systems maybe even a host file. Still not a perfect solution but will most likely keep them out of trouble.
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Yes but only when the sun isn't up. RH9 server of the undead.
I switched the few units I had on RH to SuSE about 6 months ago. Sure you don't have ISOs to download but you can WGET the FTP site and do your own private, in house FTP install just as easily. SuSE stable and has good documentation.
It is still a computerized system that most users, myself included, have limited to no skills to verify. I have to trust others to tell me if it is safe or not. Others who could be bought or otherwise influenced to lie to me. Also so you build an OS system that I like. On election day how do I check out the machine? I doubt they will let me down it and examine it before I cast my vote. Ballot box tampering occurs all the time. How will this be any less prone to that?
Give me a paper and a pencil and count the ballots AT THE POLLING PLACE in full view of the public. That is the ONLY method I'll trust.
Those guys in those suits. Did we really dress like that? Fuck I'm old.....
What will happen when the drivers hit the cones? Will they strike back? I can just see having to avoid kamakaze attack cones.
This is so true. I just found YOUR post offensive, so that is ONE. :)
Trademark law specifically forbids using modified names that sound similar to a product. I can't make a copier and call it Terox because that sounds too much like Xerox. I can't create a detergent and call it OceanTide because of the trademark on Tide.
You are under the common misconception that "confusion" is the only thing forbidden in trademark law. You can't invoke, even indirectly, a trademark simply to promote your product. That is what a trademark IS. A unique symbol, image, or word(s) that reminds the customer of your product or service. And you get FULL control over how it is used. Someone playing word games is invoking indirectly the image of your product to promote there own and that is a blatant and clear violation of the purpose of a trademark.
Indeed Lindows doesn't deny that they are playing on the name. Their claim, one which I disagree with, is that Windows is a generic term and thus is untrademarkable. If Windows isn't a valid mark then Robertson can play all the word games he wants. That is what he won the right to do in the US. He didn't destroy the link to the Windows trademark. He invalidated the Windows trademark. For Robertson that had the same effect. For Microsoft it put it's entire Windows trademark in jeopardy.
I don't agree with the courts ruling that Windows is a generic term. A trademark must be famous and distinctive in order to be a valid mark. Windows qualifies as both. If I say "I'm running Windows" we all know that I'm refereeing to the product from the company Microsoft. There is no confusion with panes of glass in buildings, nor is their confusion with the GUI element of a window either. Windows is as distinctive to computers as Apple, also a generic term, is to computers. Both are valid marks and I expect that the ruling will be overturned back into Microsoft's favor.
I'm not found of Microsoft but Robertson is a troll using trickery and cheap PR moves to promote his product. He always has done that. He is a cheap thug with all the morals of a used car sales man. He does the Linux world a disservice. I usually root against Microsoft but this time I hope they squash this guy like the little bug he is.
..Osama Bin Laden.
Naw never work. I can't get that jackass Postal puke to stop putting my mail in the next door neighbor's box so how is going to get it to the correct cave.