I have to diagree with almost all comments that tell you , you learn more about the system if it doesn't hold your hand.
Thats a bunch of crap. Whether you learn the system depends on whether you want to learn the system or not. My first experience with Unix was a normal User a/c on a sun sparc box. I had no root access, no X, no vim (plain ol' vi), no bash. but by the time I installed RH 5.x somewhere in 98, It took me just a couple of weeks to figure out stuff.
Talking about a *nix system, whether you learn or not very much depends on whether you are GUI or CLI inclined. If you are CLI inclined then no matter what the distro is , it will take you hardly any time to figure which configuration goes in to which files. Remember the Unix configurations are stored in TEXT files rather than a binary registry.
So no matter what distro you use, The ability to learn how a system works, how to best configure and customise your system, lies in your apptitude to learn and master the CLI.
Well "free speech"/"no censorship" may be a US law but certainly not a international law. And internet is a global thing which can not be governed by either a US law or an international law.
In fact each country's local law will determine the fate of each packet that passes over h/w equipments stationed in that country. If that is unacceptable to some, tough luck, find another country to host the equipment
Each country has its laws which may appear as censorships to others, this doesn't give the other countries the right to interfere with the country's law.
One man's law is other man's censorship.
and One man's freedom is other man's barbarism.
fisrt and foremost i must state that i use linux daily and almost exclusively
now for the questions
Apart from the free (speech/beer whatever) source/ closed source propoganda what has linux to offer a average customer (read non-geek) that windows doesn't ?
If its all about choice, then what will prevent customers from choosing windows in future, even if hypothetically speaking the customer is able to buy a no pre-installed OS pc.?
Even though MS license's are costly for enterprise level purchase, the argument doesn't hold true for single PC purchases. 99$ for WindowsXP upgrades v/s 40-150 $ for any leading linux distro. I know that linux distros include much more than a bare bone OS, but do the customers really care ?
One of THE MOST important things for linux to succeed in desktop is to get the OEM manifactures out from the microsoft's clutches. Right now MS has gat them by their nuts. Unless OEM manifactures natively support linux, we will have to depend on reverse-engg. hacks for our h/w to work under linux. Just how does the linux community proposeto bring about this change ?
Hey wait a minute...
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Doesn't this book defeat the very purpose of google ?
I don't know about all you guys, but google preety much comes up with what i want in the first of second search page.
Most of the time i don't even have to use +, - , "".
I think thats the good thing about google. Its ability to come up with the most relevant sites.
You can't expect the current administration or house to insist upon a tariff on imported services, can you?
Sure you can, but remember that the american companies like coke, pepsi, McDonalds, KFC, PnG, Nike , etc etc have huge markets outside US, especially in far east populous countries like india, china, japan, korea
Now if govt. of these countries were to impose the same tariff that you speak of on imported american goods,.... Well you get the picture.
face it, the world is shrinking day by day, and if affects everybody's life in some way or another
America is a super-power in the world not because of its military , rather because of its economic dominance. But that economy can not be self contained, To be a world leader you have to play the same game on equal fields To stay competetive in world markets the american companies need to reduce costs at all options, and labor cost is a very convenient option.
Although I agree in principle with Suse.
I dont think this decission has got anything to do with Linux or Open Source Philosophy as Suse is trying to make it look it.
Suse has business relation ships with IBM, if i am not wrong IBM linux m/cs do run Suse linux on them.And this is calculated business move.
SCO should realise that with out UnitedLinux they don't have much business to look forward to. Infact i would be surprised if they can even afford the legal fees to persue the lawsuit.
What do i do ?
Bash Mircosoft ?
Praise Taiwan ?
Hail Linux ? (oops... GNU/Linux )
Seriously, I miss those days when slashdot's M$ stories were like....Windows XP kills your kids, go with linux
So easy to pick a side, now with these ambiguous stories, I don't know which side i am on.
Why do these people publish TCO Studies. ?
The real question is which can be marketed better ? Afterall the company with a better marketing dept. is going to do well than one with a poor one, albeit having a better product
And TCO is only one of the several factors that go into marketing a product. Some companies do infact like polished products even at a higher cost
And say all what you may, the Windows products look much more polished than any others. Please don't start with OSX, and KDE and gnome, Because what looks cool and polished to geeks like us, may not look so to the IT managers.
So TCO alone won't help linux/unix topple M$, its got to be more marketable than windows.
Had the bill gone thru , would it be then illegal to protect my PC from possible hollywood hacking?
Can i go to jail for installing a firewall and blocking all ports ?
The jist is,
You can no longer play the "blame it on Microsoft game". You have to get up your lazy a$$ and do some research before recommending a m$ product next
Coz, next time you recommend a m$ solution, chances are your customer will ask..Whats this linux thing We are hearing about ?
And if you say , "Oh its just some geeky thing used by hackers." Chances are they might ask, "Oh yeah then how come IBM and HP and so many other big guns are supporting it ?"
If the camera has a USB connector, and is supported by gphoto. then all u need is USB-hot plug support and ur all done.
On the other hand, i have a firewire CF card reader, and using sb2 driver i can mount my CF card, as a hard disk and do I/O at about 4 MBps.
thanks for spelling it out to me
Now a days the moment i see ANTI_PRIVACY (or PIRACY) , i am thining could i be the verizon customer, every body is fighting about:-)
SLASHDOT needs two distinct catagories:-
ANTI-PRIVACY
ANTI ANTI_PRIVACY
but seriously best actor...?
come on guys, be serious here, acting has a lot to do with facial expressions, and body language and these are not effective when done by animated characters no matter how reallistic they look
may be oscar should start a seperate catagory for animated characters, or may be best vocal performance for ppl who do the talking but best actor ?
what next nominate peter jackson for noble prize ?
exactly, so were u not affected by the worm. may be your m/c wasn't affected, but the entire NET was on its knees. so it did affect your net browsing time.
Now can u sue them , bcoz you paid all this extra money and still couldn't logon to yahoo:-)
i agree,
I bought pinnacle studio for video capture and editing and it came with a firewire card, from bestbuy
The box said the card could capture video in both NTSC or PAL. but it turned out that the pinnacle studio could only edit video captured in NTSC (which was not mentioned on the BOX)
i retured the whole thing and explained my position to the returns lady, and she accepted the box and refunded the money.
tetris is what i play,
and with 1.2 GHz AMD Athlon, 512 MBRam and ATI A-I-W Ultra Pro AGP 32 MB RAM , it kicks some butt.
I play tetris in Vim, in xemacs, so there
Slashdot Mirror
Very Vrey Very Very Highly,
Its a classic, I am surprised that many ppl. haven't heard of it.
I have to diagree with almost all comments that tell you , you learn more about the system if it doesn't hold your hand.
Thats a bunch of crap. Whether you learn the system depends on whether you want to learn the system or not.
My first experience with Unix was a normal User a/c on a sun sparc box. I had no root access, no X, no vim (plain ol' vi), no bash. but by the time I installed RH 5.x somewhere in 98, It took me just a couple of weeks to figure out stuff.
Talking about a *nix system, whether you learn or not very much depends on whether you are GUI or CLI inclined. If you are CLI inclined then no matter what the distro is , it will take you hardly any time to figure which configuration goes in to which files. Remember the Unix configurations are stored in TEXT files rather than a binary registry.
So no matter what distro you use, The ability to learn how a system works, how to best configure and customise your system, lies in your apptitude to learn and master the CLI.
Well "free speech"/"no censorship" may be a US law but certainly not a international law. And internet is a global thing which can not be governed by either a US law or an international law.
In fact each country's local law will determine the fate of each packet that passes over h/w equipments stationed in that country. If that is unacceptable to some, tough luck, find another country to host the equipment
Each country has its laws which may appear as censorships to others, this doesn't give the other countries the right to interfere with the country's law.
One man's law is other man's censorship.
and One man's freedom is other man's barbarism.
fisrt and foremost i must state that i use linux daily and almost exclusively
now for the questions
Apart from the free (speech/beer whatever) source/ closed source propoganda what has linux to offer a average customer (read non-geek) that windows doesn't ?
If its all about choice, then what will prevent customers from choosing windows in future, even if hypothetically speaking the customer is able to buy a no pre-installed OS pc.?
Even though MS license's are costly for enterprise level purchase, the argument doesn't hold true for single PC purchases. 99$ for WindowsXP upgrades v/s 40-150 $ for any leading linux distro. I know that linux distros include much more than a bare bone OS, but do the customers really care ?
One of THE MOST important things for linux to succeed in desktop is to get the OEM manifactures out from the microsoft's clutches. Right now MS has gat them by their nuts. Unless OEM manifactures natively support linux, we will have to depend on reverse-engg. hacks for our h/w to work under linux. Just how does the linux community proposeto bring about this change ?
Doesn't this book defeat the very purpose of google ?
I don't know about all you guys, but google preety much comes up with what i want in the first of second search page.
Most of the time i don't even have to use +, - , "". I think thats the good thing about google. Its ability to come up with the most relevant sites.
You can't expect the current administration or house to insist upon a tariff on imported services, can you? .... Well you get the picture.
Sure you can, but remember that the american companies like coke, pepsi, McDonalds, KFC, PnG, Nike , etc etc have huge markets outside US, especially in far east populous countries like india, china, japan, korea
Now if govt. of these countries were to impose the same tariff that you speak of on imported american goods,
face it, the world is shrinking day by day, and if affects everybody's life in some way or another
America is a super-power in the world not because of its military , rather because of its economic dominance. But that economy can not be self contained, To be a world leader you have to play the same game on equal fields
To stay competetive in world markets the american companies need to reduce costs at all options, and labor cost is a very convenient option.
I have said this before and i'll say it again.
Tetris is the only game worth playing. Every other game is just a myth.
yes they do.
kitchen sink
There is also a plug-in under work, which displays this sink when you type about:kitchensink
Although I agree in principle with Suse. .And this is calculated business move.
I dont think this decission has got anything to do with Linux or Open Source Philosophy as Suse is trying to make it look it.
Suse has business relation ships with IBM, if i am not wrong IBM linux m/cs do run Suse linux on them
SCO should realise that with out UnitedLinux they don't have much business to look forward to. Infact i would be surprised if they can even afford the legal fees to persue the lawsuit.
ZX Spectrum + (128 KB RAM). it still works, though sometimes i have problems with the "space" key. (coffee anyone ?)
How about the wheel ? Surely no technological advancement is better than that ?
But i thought JAVA was invented in early 90s ?
What do i do ? ... GNU/Linux ) ....Windows XP kills your kids, go with linux
Bash Mircosoft ?
Praise Taiwan ?
Hail Linux ? (oops
Seriously, I miss those days when slashdot's M$ stories were like
So easy to pick a side, now with these ambiguous stories, I don't know which side i am on.
The real question is which can be marketed better ?
Afterall the company with a better marketing dept. is going to do well than one with a poor one, albeit having a better product
And TCO is only one of the several factors that go into marketing a product. Some companies do infact like polished products even at a higher cost
And say all what you may, the Windows products look much more polished than any others. Please don't start with OSX, and KDE and gnome,
Because what looks cool and polished to geeks like us, may not look so to the IT managers.
So TCO alone won't help linux/unix topple M$, its got to be more marketable than windows.
having a white/black skin helped him.
Had he been olive skinned ? Now that's a different story.
Had the bill gone thru , would it be then illegal to protect my PC from possible hollywood hacking?
Can i go to jail for installing a firewall and blocking all ports ?
And I find the fact that the site demo is flash based, very repulsive.
I can't spend two seconds on a site which is purely flash based.
You can no longer play the "blame it on Microsoft game". You have to get up your lazy a$$ and do some research before recommending a m$ product next
Coz, next time you recommend a m$ solution, chances are your customer will ask ..Whats this linux thing We are hearing about ?
And if you say , "Oh its just some geeky thing used by hackers ." Chances are they might ask, "Oh yeah then how come IBM and HP and so many other big guns are supporting it ?"
If the camera has a USB connector, and is supported by gphoto. then all u need is USB-hot plug support and ur all done.
On the other hand, i have a firewire CF card reader, and using sb2 driver i can mount my CF card, as a hard disk and do I/O at about 4 MBps.
Now a days the moment i see ANTI_PRIVACY (or PIRACY) , i am thining could i be the verizon customer, every body is fighting about
SLASHDOT needs two distinct catagories:-
ANTI-PRIVACY
ANTI ANTI_PRIVACY
but seriously best actor ...?
come on guys, be serious here, acting has a lot to do with facial expressions, and body language and these are not effective when done by animated characters no matter how reallistic they look
may be oscar should start a seperate catagory for animated characters, or may be best vocal performance for ppl who do the talking but best actor ?
what next nominate peter jackson for noble prize ?
exactly, so were u not affected by the worm. may be your m/c wasn't affected, but the entire NET was on its knees. so it did affect your net browsing time. :-)
Now can u sue them , bcoz you paid all this extra money and still couldn't logon to yahoo
I am intrested in the Razziee awards. go madonna.
i agree, I bought pinnacle studio for video capture and editing and it came with a firewire card, from bestbuy
The box said the card could capture video in both NTSC or PAL. but it turned out that the pinnacle studio could only edit video captured in NTSC (which was not mentioned on the BOX)
i retured the whole thing and explained my position to the returns lady, and she accepted the box and refunded the money.
tetris is what i play,
and with 1.2 GHz AMD Athlon, 512 MBRam and ATI A-I-W Ultra Pro AGP 32 MB RAM , it kicks some butt.
I play tetris in Vim, in xemacs, so there