Same here, have 32 i look after and i know they werent counted. Any admin worth his salt will turn off any identifying tokens on his network fringe servers, and as for the inner network - they have no idea. I know Our linux boxes/windows ratio is 3/1 (thats linux to windows) and we are rolling the windows stuff out as quickly as we can.
If you have rolled out Firefox across your work network - can you please drop me a line, I am planning to role it out across a mix of 98, 2k and XP machines 100 or so that are local and around 80 remote. How did you role it out ? Did you customise it first and method did you use to do so.
Debians not totally dead - have just about completed migrating 20 production servers over and to be honest i have never been happier. Apt-get just works ! Used to be RedHat through and through -then went to Mandrake (work was a mandrake shop when i got there) and to be honest urpmi - although a refreshing change from RedHats incomplete package management system (granted this was RH 7.2-7.3 days) compared to apt-get, it is somewhat broken.
Running Debian on my desktop at home - as for being out of date - just run unstable.
I think different people have different requirements , what suits one may not suit another, Personally i find that Linux has everything i need and more to be fully functional in my sys admin role. Windows would hamper my productivity.
Then on the other hand i know we have a couple of custom applications that were written when the company first started, for windows and for the people using them it wouldnt be practical right now to switch.
We have a store down here in aus caused EveryThingLinux. www.everythinglinux.com.au
They are actually after having been years in business starting to diversify a bit and do more than just linux related stuff. But it can be done and i wish these guys all the best.
Whilst i do agree with you that we need companies like Mandrake around and they do a great Desktop release. Your point about urpmi being as great as apt-get i have to take issue with. I used to be Mandrake all the way but since the product EOL issues with Red Hat - and their Microsoftish terms and conditions for their Enterprise offereing we were looking around to see what we would do when it came time to replace our Redhat and Mandrake boxes. We ended up choosing Debian, as it is community supported and in general there is not the financial pressures to release before things are ready etc and its as stable as hell (we are talking servers here so latest and greatest whizbang features are not required) Anyway the short of it is i have been working solely on debian boxes for a while now - and today i have had to come back to some of the Mandrake machines, (8.2 through to 9.2) and am now wishing all our boxes were debian. Dpkg is just so much nicer to work with. Everything you could ever want on the mirrors, that dont get horribly out of sync ever other month and it works!
Anyway each to their own - thats enough of a rant - but yes Mandrake do do a great Desktop product, their Corporate server offering while it looks great has too short a product life (2 years, if they could stretch it to the 3 year hardware rotation they would have had us)
At the risk of responding to a troll - i have started converting my servers from a mix of RedHat and Mandrake boxes to Debian, and to be honest i love it! I dont know what installer you are talking about being bloated but in 3.0 rc2 its not that bad, sure it doesnt have the nice pretty buttons and all but realistically how often are you at the installer ? The package maintainers i feel put a lot more though t into their packagers than some other distro's and usually i have found things work pretty well "out of the box" As for the hardware detection - well yes that can be a pain (having just built a HP DL380 with the onboard broadcom nics, i know what a pain it can be) but the way i see it is, use the right tool for the right job, and so far i am thinking server wise, it is the right way to go. (Have been running it on my own home servers for a couple of years now).
As the article says, Both parties get to write to advise the judge every 90 days on how the IBM/SCOX case is running. The judge said that if it was not progressing she would consider lifting the stay. RTFA
The article does say that the parties will be submitting a letter every 90 days to update the judge on how the ibm/sco case is progressing. So its not as bad as it fist looks
Yes you can have white space in file names - not a problem. When you get to the stage of doing operations on thousands of files, you will find that it is easier to do on the command line. Then you will realise that in particular spaces are a pain in the butt!
So for an end user - spaces and upper case letters, not a problem. If you have a system administrator though - he will appreciate it if you put things in lower case without spaces.
This is actually a really good idea, Perhaps if the "little guys" start working together we can nut out a working model that can then be pushed to the larger companies.
Technically though - if you look at they have to save the attachment and execute it to get infected, that is a really messy way of doing it. If a linux user did write it.. shame on you!:)
Ahhhh down here in Australia when you purchase a new game it ranges in price from $80-$120 AU So they have gone up a bit down here as $50 US equates to about (estimate here) $70 - $73 AU
Must admit that i found Red Hat EOL a big dissapointment as well. What i did find though is that Mandrake (talking desktop operating systems here) is truly an out of the box distro. It honestly works a treat when you install it - the hardware recognition is great and it takes like 18 minutes ( i timed it on a p3 1000) At work i now use Mandrake full time on the desktop for myself. Programmers are going duel boot (They still have to dev apps for windows machines) As for RedHat i dont like their terms and conditions of ES and thus will not use them. They seem to be aiming high in regards to their marketing and forgetting a large user base who are not running huge data centres . As such i am clooking to change our servers to Debian.
In addition to running servers for other users i run my own mail server for my self and family at home. Whilst your method of blocking mail based on http links does have some method ( i have not tried it as of yet) I do block mail from ip addresses and ip address space from which i receive spam. I do try to email the abuse addresses or the technical contacts of those ip's directly (very infrequently do i get a reply probably due to the amount of complaints they do receive) I then look at where the network is ask myself am i likely to get valid emails from that network - is there anyone i know who uses the network ? If not i choose to not accept mail or any traffic from that network. This is my right. It is my machine and my bandwidth.
That said i am always looking for new ways to fight spam.
I use a cable ISP here in aus and find that my own mail server is a lot more reliable than the isp's. That is one reason i run my own mail server/internal dns etc. Dont want to rely on them for anything i dont have to.
THis is going to be a pain for those who are in a similar situation as my ip is listed as a dynamic ip and is blocked by AOL. Not that i want to email AOL users but if it becomes more common then i wont be a happy camper.
One solution - though not perfect is for the end user to use an email client that can filter mail from people not in their address book.
As i said not perfect and it doesnt solve the bandwidth or congestion issues directly but its a start. Thunderbird is the only one i have seen that does this.
I have to bite on this one - having just installed a new debain system last night that is replacing a redhat 7.2 box as a mailserver/firewall.
In my work i deal with different linux distros ranging from Redhat 7.2 Mandrake 8.2, 9 9.1 and 9.2, and have played with Redhat 7.3 8.0 9 and am currently looking into rolling out Suse Open Exchange server.
IMO you need to choose the right tool for the right job.For a desktop system you may want all the gui tools and wiz bang features. You may not mind upgrading your machine every six months to stay on that "cutting edge" In the server space though - where you have a three year rotation of servers, stability is most important The slow relase cycles suit the server space down to the ground - if you really need a new feature or package and its not in "Stable" you are able to install it from testing or if needs be unstable. Yes you may get bugs and you may be beta testing but what do you think you are doing for those distros that release every six months. Personally on my laptop i Run Mandrake 9.2, which does have some nice features (there are urpmi problems - broken mirrors, changing keys etc etc ) on my desktop though - i run Mandrake 9.1 (got sick of urpmi probs)
From the installs i have done of debian i have found that the apt system works very well - applies all the latest security patches during the install ( The mdk install security patch feature is broken in 9.2) and leaves your system very stable and with a little configuration - which you should be doing on the other distros anyway eg firewall you have a stable an secure machine that is well suited to a server.
One last point, I trust Debian for my personal firewall/server needs because changes and improvements are more driven from a technical perspective than marketing.
My only advice - The right tool for the right job.
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Same here, have 32 i look after and i know they werent counted. Any admin worth his salt will turn off any identifying tokens on his network fringe servers, and as for the inner network - they have no idea. I know Our linux boxes/windows ratio is 3/1 (thats linux to windows) and we are rolling the windows stuff out as quickly as we can.
"There is no such thing as bad publicity"
One word - Sco
My experience using HP DL380's has been great - but mind you we role them over every three years when the warranty ends
If you have rolled out Firefox across your work network - can you please drop me a line, I am planning to role it out across a mix of 98, 2k and XP machines 100 or so that are local and around 80 remote. How did you role it out ? Did you customise it first and method did you use to do so.
Seb
Debians not totally dead - have just about completed migrating 20 production servers over and to be honest i have never been happier. Apt-get just works ! Used to be RedHat through and through -then went to Mandrake (work was a mandrake shop when i got there) and to be honest urpmi - although a refreshing change from RedHats incomplete package management system (granted this was RH 7.2-7.3 days) compared to apt-get, it is somewhat broken.
Running Debian on my desktop at home - as for being out of date - just run unstable.
I think different people have different requirements , what suits one may not suit another, Personally i find that Linux has everything i need and more to be fully functional in my sys admin role. Windows would hamper my productivity.
Then on the other hand i know we have a couple of custom applications that were written when the company first started, for windows and for the people using them it wouldnt be practical right now to switch.
Just my two cents
We have a store down here in aus caused EveryThingLinux. www.everythinglinux.com.au
They are actually after having been years in business starting to diversify a bit and do more than just linux related stuff. But it can be done and i wish these guys all the best.
I must admit - diskdrake is pretty funky :)
Whilst i do agree with you that we need companies like Mandrake around and they do a great Desktop release. Your point about urpmi being as great as apt-get i have to take issue with. I used to be Mandrake all the way but since the product EOL issues with Red Hat - and their Microsoftish terms and conditions for their Enterprise offereing we were looking around to see what we would do when it came time to replace our Redhat and Mandrake boxes. We ended up choosing Debian, as it is community supported and in general there is not the financial pressures to release before things are ready etc and its as stable as hell (we are talking servers here so latest and greatest whizbang features are not required)
Anyway the short of it is i have been working solely on debian boxes for a while now - and today i have had to come back to some of the Mandrake machines, (8.2 through to 9.2) and am now wishing all our boxes were debian. Dpkg is just so much nicer to work with. Everything you could ever want on the mirrors, that dont get horribly out of sync ever other month and it works!
Anyway each to their own - thats enough of a rant - but yes Mandrake do do a great Desktop product, their Corporate server offering while it looks great has too short a product life (2 years, if they could stretch it to the 3 year hardware rotation they would have had us)
At the risk of responding to a troll - i have started converting my servers from a mix of RedHat and Mandrake boxes to Debian, and to be honest i love it!
I dont know what installer you are talking about being bloated but in 3.0 rc2 its not that bad, sure it doesnt have the nice pretty buttons and all but realistically how often are you at the installer ?
The package maintainers i feel put a lot more though t into their packagers than some other distro's and usually i have found things work pretty well "out of the box" As for the hardware detection - well yes that can be a pain (having just built a HP DL380 with the onboard broadcom nics, i know what a pain it can be) but the way i see it is, use the right tool for the right job, and so far i am thinking server wise, it is the right way to go. (Have been running it on my own home servers for a couple of years now).
Anyway use whatever makes you happy
God are you saying we need a clippy ? :)
Perhaps one you could dismember on the screen would be cool but i get your point that the user interface needs to be more intuitive
All the best dude, ill be cheering for you.
As the article says, Both parties get to write to advise the judge every 90 days on how the IBM/SCOX case is running. The judge said that if it was not progressing she would consider lifting the stay.
RTFA
The article does say that the parties will be submitting a letter every 90 days to update the judge on how the ibm/sco case is progressing. So its not as bad as it fist looks
Congrats dude !
:)
... girl :)
That is one of the most awesome Trolls i have seen in ages on Slashdot!
Give him a round of applause boys and
Yes you can have white space in file names - not a problem.
When you get to the stage of doing operations on thousands of files, you will find that it is easier to do on the command line. Then you will realise that in particular spaces are a pain in the butt!
So for an end user - spaces and upper case letters, not a problem. If you have a system administrator though - he will appreciate it if you put things in lower case without spaces.
My Two Cents
This is actually a really good idea, Perhaps if the "little guys" start working together we can nut out a working model that can then be pushed to the larger companies.
Seb
Technically though - if you look at they have to save the attachment and execute it to get infected, that is a really messy way of doing it. If a linux user did write it.. shame on you! :)
Ahhhh down here in Australia when you purchase a new game it ranges in price from $80-$120 AU
So they have gone up a bit down here as $50 US equates to about (estimate here) $70 - $73 AU
Must admit that i found Red Hat EOL a big dissapointment as well. What i did find though is that Mandrake (talking desktop operating systems here) is truly an out of the box distro. It honestly works a treat when you install it - the hardware recognition is great and it takes like 18 minutes ( i timed it on a p3 1000)
At work i now use Mandrake full time on the desktop for myself. Programmers are going duel boot (They still have to dev apps for windows machines)
As for RedHat i dont like their terms and conditions of ES and thus will not use them. They seem to be aiming high in regards to their marketing and forgetting a large user base who are not running huge data centres . As such i am clooking to change our servers to Debian.
In addition to running servers for other users i run my own mail server for my self and family at home.
Whilst your method of blocking mail based on http links does have some method ( i have not tried it as of yet) I do block mail from ip addresses and ip address space from which i receive spam. I do try to email the abuse addresses or the technical contacts of those ip's directly (very infrequently do i get a reply probably due to the amount of complaints they do receive) I then look at where the network is ask myself am i likely to get valid emails from that network - is there anyone i know who uses the network ? If not i choose to not accept mail or any traffic from that network. This is my right. It is my machine and my bandwidth.
That said i am always looking for new ways to fight spam.
Thankyou for your tip
I use a cable ISP here in aus and find that my own mail server is a lot more reliable than the isp's. That is one reason i run my own mail server/internal dns etc. Dont want to rely on them for anything i dont have to.
THis is going to be a pain for those who are in a similar situation as my ip is listed as a dynamic ip and is blocked by AOL. Not that i want to email AOL users but if it becomes more common then i wont be a happy camper.
Start out by saying im a rider as well,
...how many riders dont actually know approximately what speed they are doing and in what gear by the sound of the engine ?
Was just wondering
Kind of makes the HUD a bit redundant doesnt it.
Seb
One solution - though not perfect is for the end user to use an email client that can filter mail from people not in their address book.
As i said not perfect and it doesnt solve the bandwidth or congestion issues directly but its a start. Thunderbird is the only one i have seen that does this.
I have to bite on this one - having just installed a new debain system last night that is replacing a redhat 7.2 box as a mailserver/firewall.
In my work i deal with different linux distros ranging from Redhat 7.2 Mandrake 8.2, 9 9.1 and 9.2, and have played with Redhat 7.3 8.0 9 and am currently looking into rolling out Suse Open Exchange server.
IMO you need to choose the right tool for the right job.For a desktop system you may want all the gui tools and wiz bang features. You may not mind upgrading your machine every six months to stay on that "cutting edge" In the server space though - where you have a three year rotation of servers, stability is most important The slow relase cycles suit the server space down to the ground - if you really need a new feature or package and its not in "Stable" you are able to install it from testing or if needs be unstable. Yes you may get bugs and you may be beta testing but what do you think you are doing for those distros that release every six months.
Personally on my laptop i Run Mandrake 9.2, which does have some nice features (there are urpmi problems - broken mirrors, changing keys etc etc ) on my desktop though - i run Mandrake 9.1 (got sick of urpmi probs)
From the installs i have done of debian i have found that the apt system works very well - applies all the latest security patches during the install ( The mdk install security patch feature is broken in 9.2) and leaves your system very stable and with a little configuration - which you should be doing on the other distros anyway eg firewall you have a stable an secure machine that is well suited to a server.
One last point, I trust Debian for my personal firewall/server needs because changes and improvements are more driven from a technical perspective than marketing.
My only advice - The right tool for the right job.
Seb