Yeah 11 man years, but for ONE person. If there was like 10 people working on it, that'd be a year straight of developing, lets say you only have 10 people working 8 hours a day 7 days a week (there'd probably be WAY more than 10 people working on this car, only 5 days a week though) it'd take 3 years to develop. That sounds pretty reasonable for a game like that being developed by 10 people.
They don't sell chips, that was my point. The car manufacturers sell all that other stuff but it's all bolt ons. Nothing like a ECU because they don't know which other parts you have on your car so how can they burn a ECU that won't destroy your car and actually give you a performance boost? All of the performance parts they sell were developed by the racing teams (like ford racing.) They don't sell the ECUs that they burn because they're tuned for the race cars, they dynod them, fine tuned them, and burnt the roms. If they sold you the rom your car would run like crap unless your car had the same exact items the racing car had, with the same settings and everything.
Dude racing isn't about HP. And I've never driven "rice" in my whole life. My first car was a Mustang with a 5.0 liter cobra that put out over 300 rwhp. The sentra would blow it away if it had 300 hp at the wheels, it's 1,000 lbs less than the weight of my mustang. My sentra with 300hp would probably destroy most cars on the road too. Also helps a bit to change the rear gear ratio (although it'll take away from the top end, but in the 1/4 mile and during auto-x events the car will accelerate much faster.) I can also change my clutch and flywheel to something lighter to increase the hp at the wheels (a heavy flywheel and clutch will reduce the amount of hp that goes to the wheels because they need more power to spin.) Anyway there's a lot of stuff like that to be done cheaply that will help you beat vipers in a 4 banger.
And my car has a 2.5 liter engine with 175hp, add a turbo kit, 230 (that's a small estimate too), add exhaust, headers, cold air intake, cams, probably take it up to 260, new fuel pump, injectors, valves, pistons, timing changes, increased turbo boost (thanks to the newly changed pistons and valves), bored and polished engine, new and tuned ECU, and the car will probably put out close to (and probably even more than) 300hp, then their's weight reduction that can be done, by this time the car's probably doing a ~12 sec 1/4 mile. There's also NOS that can probably give the car another second on the 1/4 mile (maybe more, these are just low estimates)
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They also design a vehicle holistically - The engine will not produce more power than the brakes can handle, the factory alignment won't allow a low-performance driver to get in trouble.
What the hell are you talking about? The biggest restrictor in increasing turbo boost, or changing timing and stuff like that is the engine's internals. The car doesn't check "Hey can my brakes handle all this raw power?" If you put 1,000 hp into a car the brakes won't change a thing, unless you find yourself doing 100 mph between traffic lights. Car manufacturers tune their ECU's to be gentle to the car's engine, and they try to go for good emissions and gas mileage.
(in the interests of fair reporting, this comes from a guy who built a 475 hp/500 ft-lb Corvette...and upgraded teh brakes at the same time...only to be stuck with a tranny bill when said motor had it's way with it.)
You have a Corvette and it's tranny couldn't handle 475hp? Strange... I figured such a beast would have a tranny that can easily handle that hp. I have a Mustang that came with a 4 banger stock and an automatic 3 speed tranny. Now it has a 5.0 Cobra engine in it, the tranny is handeling it (although it's a HUGE restrictor on the cars acceleration.)
How dumb are you? Dude the only way a car company can make money off selling different cars with the same engine is if they include a turbo, or other performance enhancing stuff and then a whole performance package (MazdaSpeed Protege, Dodge Neon SRT-4, Dodge Viper SRT-10, Ford Mustang SVT.) Jeez these cars aren't even in the same league as the cars you'd see on the showroom floor (well I did see all of these cars on the showroom floor but that's besides the point.) The MazdaSpeed Protege is the only one I'd say isn't a HUGE performance boost, but it's still a very nice car at a very nice price and comes with some great stuff for handeling and a nice sound system with a much better look inside than a regular Protege. The Dodge Neon SRT-4 is faster than any other stock car in america for under $20,000 (and faster than a lot over $20,000, like a Nissan 350Z.) Believe me the car companies don't just stick two engines in the exact same car, change a little chip, or put a more restrictive exhaust and sell the faster one for way more.
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If you want more power get a different car in the first place. The cars mentioned are not exactly cheap. You could get a second hand car designed to go at those speeds for the same price.
If you want more power, you buy a cheap car and then aftermarket parts. You pay the insurance for a cheap little 4 banger, but get the performance of a big block v-8. I have a Nissan Sentra SE-R SpecV (yeah that's annoying to say I wish they just called it a SpecV.) It was a bit over $21,000 fully loaded (around $17,000 base.) If I spend $7,000 on performance parts the car will be able to drag against dodge vipers that cost around $60,000 (I think a dodge viper has a 12 second 1/4 mile time, I know some SpecV's with under $10,000 of work that run 11 second 1/4 miles)
Just how fast do you need to go down an on-ramp in the first place?
Faster than the cars already on the highway? I live in Arizona so that's about 75mph, and that's just the speed limit, most of these people do 80-90. And besides don't forget after the on-ramp is the wide open road. Then there's the legal use of performance parts, drag strips, local tracks, auto-x events, tons of stuff you can participate in where just an extra 20hp might make a huge difference (yeah I know in auto-x and most track events handeling is better than horsepower but the horsepower helps a lot.)
Tweaking the engine does not affect the performance of you brakes or the handling of the car. If you remove the speed limiter you can go above 155mph, but your tires won't be rated for that speed. If you are lucky you will just wear them out fast, if you are unlucky you will get tread separation. There is a reason why tires for supercars cost $2000+ each.
No, tweaking the engine doesn't affect your brake or handeling performance. But people don't tweak the engine for that, they tweak the brakes and suspension for that. If you're car can go 155mph your tires are probably Z rated, mine are and they came on a Nissan Sentra, it can't go up to 155 (131 was my top speed through the Salt Flats in utah) and it's an economy car. Sure I did get performance packages but still, the people who will buy these chips will probably have the tires to handle the speeds.
I would like to know how to hack the telephone system so I can use a standard motorola phone. Jaguar want $2500 to upgrade the phone the car came with to a GSM version. Not happening, but I did like having the phone controls integrated into the car controls.
You're probably going to have to do that on your own. I don't think any company will waste the time figuring out how to do that since most of the people who buy that car won't have the problem and there isn't a huge demand on figuring that problem out. Sure if you're lucky someone will do it and they'll post directions online but I'm sure it'd be very difficult.
You're way off. No car manufacturer that I know of sells replacement ECU chips, they did all their fine tuning in the factory and they're happy with the results. The reason they don't want you to do it is the same reason that AMD and Intel don't want you to overclock, you can do some serious damage to your engine if you do anything wrong.
Car manufacturers usually have performance divisions (Like Nismo, MazdaSpeed, Ford Racing.) But they don't sell parts that should have been included in the car in the first place. They usually develop parts for the companies race cars and sell the performance parts they can easily mass produce. And I don't think they'd ever sell an ECU because it would be tuned the companies race car, like Nissan's race tuned Sentra Spec-V, not the one you'd see on the showroom floor (if they did sell you the race car ECU, your car would run like crap because it doesn't have the horsepower, same fuel pump, injectors, compression, timing, and other things that the race car has.)
Having the car manufacturers support this would be like AMD and Intel supporting over clockers. It may cause damage to your engine if you use these performance enhancing chips. If the auto manufacturers support this then consumers will believe that it's safe to do, and may risk destroying their engines. Then the people sue the car company because the company supported the chips that lead to a blown engine. If you change your fuel/oxygen mixture to some really bad values you can do A LOT of VERY EXPENSIVE damage to an engine and that's just one example of what can go wrong. A car's ECU controls A LOT of different things, most of them can potentially damage your engine (or the rest of your car maybe even leading into an accident) if you do something wrong.
I'm not saying performance enhancing chips are bad, I'm just saying I understand why a car manufacturer wouldn't want to support them. If you know a tuner to tune the chip or buy a pre-tuned chip, it can be a great add-on.
Everyone has been posting that they didn't clone a human. No they didn't clone a human but the embryo grew well enough in a petry dish to suggest that if they did not extract the stem cells they could have cloned a human. Laws in South Korea allows them to create stem cells in this way but they are not allowed to clone an entire human. In the United States none of this is allowed and for a long time there have been discussions to make the laws more like South Korea (cloning of full humans not allowed but this research in cloning embryos and stuff like that is.)
Anyway, yeah the title is misleading BUT the scientists believe they could have cloned a human.
Yeah and we'll just make sure they let us know they're gonna shoot someone so we can setup the BASIC switch and put the piece of cardboard in front of their guns so when they fire the guns it sets off the camera.
This is completely useless. After doing the same excersize over and over it looses it's muscle developing affect because your body becomes used to doing the task and becomes more efficient at it (and becomes more prone to cheating, doing the excersize the wrong way that's much easier, like swinging an arm to lift a heavy weight).
Maybe if their was some sort of all in one excersize machine controller, like a bowflex or something like that, that can connect to a PC or another game console. That would be a nice way to work out although without a mobile screen you wouldn't be able to see the games without straining yourself, maybe you can use some VR goggles. It'd probably cost a fortune but it'd be a nice excersize machine for geeks (unless they use it too much and damage their muscles.)
Ok you know what forget it, just go to a gym and get a trainer, it'll be much better than working out yourself and much more effective. You won't damage your body and you won't have the same excersize over and over again doing nothing for your muscle development.
...somewhere in Cali? So wouldn't that make the US a lucky country? And wouldn't it be waaaaaaaaay cheaper to get a flight to the US than to australia (unless you're fortunate enough to live near Australia)?
That car is still an Impala but they don't try to sell it as a rear wheel drive car with a v-8. Just like this card is still a Radeon, although they say it's a 9200 when it's really a 9000.
Both are grown easily in the home, and can be distributed at almost no cost.
Yes, music can easily be written and played by anyone, with no prior experience, no money and no talent. It won't be good (and most likely it will be the most horrible crap you've ever heard) but hey who cares, it's just like going out and buying music, right?
Weed is just as easy to grow and distribute, you don't need any kind of special equiptment, you can grow weed out of any plastic pot with regular dirt. You don't need any special care for it, and you don't need to worry about the smell going into your neighbors house since growing weed is perfectly legal! Wait... no it's not... Oh well at least you can grow great weed in your house! Even though if you don't really put any money into it, the weed will probably die, or be really crappy. Unless you happen to live in a place where the environment is nice enough for growing it, then you can grow it outside as long as you have no neighbors or if you live somewhere where it's legal. Distribution is just as easy and cheap as growing. You just walk around randomly and ask people if they wanna buy some weed, who cares if more than half of those people will probably want to call the cops and you might even ask an undercover cop.
Neither, on it's own, is are more dangerous than other products that are traded with fewer regulations.
What are you talking about? What regulations are there on selling music? There are regulations on copying music online and stuff like that but there are regulations on any copyrighted material that can be distributed online. There's regulations on selling and buying marijuana but there are regulations on most drugs.
Both products become expensive because of government regulations.
Marijuana is expensive because it's illegal, music is expensive because the RIAA forces stores to sell music at fixed prices. Government regulations would actually lower music prices by forcing the RIAA to let music stores sell the music at their own prices.
To protect the profitability of both products, distributors employ tactics typical of criminal organizations.
You say that like it's not illegal to sell marijuana.
And finally, the real danger appears not because of the product itself, but because of the additives that must be used in the mass market to maximize and protect profit margins. The additives create unknown levels of toxicity to your body and your mind.
What are you talking about?!?! Additives in music? I think you smoke too much weed, but even that doesn't have any "additives" I know of. Unless it's laced with something, and you would normally know if it is. "create unknown levels of toxicity to your body and mind" yeah listening to music I bought in the store creates unknown levels of toxicity to my body and mind.
Of course, manufactured weed and manufactured music are both bad for you, and I would suggest that squirrels and humans avoid their consumption.
Manufactured weed, well government manufactured weed is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than anything you can find on the streets. And manufactured music? What's manufactured music, if you start off with nothing and end up with music, wouldn't that be manufactured? So any music would technically be manufactured. I'm not even going to comment on the squirrels and humans bit but dude LAY OFF THE WEED!
Someone already asked this and another person linked to some article, the article basically said that gravity moves at the speed of light. So if the sun went poof earth would take 8 minutes to float off into space. Some scientists figured this out by measuring the time it took jupiter to bend some quasars radio waves as it passed in front of the quasar.
I regularly stop IM conversations with a phrase like - "Shouldn't this be a phone/face-to-face conversation?" The text medium simply leaves too much room for misunderstanding.
I'm just the opposite. Most conversations are too complex for me to explain things without using IM. So much stuff is missed on the phone and it gets annoying saying "What? Wait what was the last part?" every 3 minutes. With IM I can explain things in minutes that would take hours explaining over the phone.
With IM I could leave a message to my sister like "Ok now click start->control panel, a window should come up and just double click administrative tools, then another window should come up, now open services and find Blah Bob, double click on it, find startup type and select manual, then click stop and ok." (yes I've had conversations like that many times when I was on vacation, I would just send her the message through AIM on my cell phone.)
One simple IM with a series of instructions that would take 20 minutes to explain over the phone (you can't just read off instructions like that over the phone, you actually have to walk the person through it unless they have someone transcribing the phone call on their end, and it's really hard wasting all that time especially when you're in a foreign country and it's costing you $1 a minute just to talk)
And you don't always have a persons full attention on the phone especially when that persons busy. I could be writing some software on my computer very excited and busy because I just had a great idea and I want to get it down before I forget it. If someone called me or tried to talk to me in my room they'd have hardly any of my attention and I'd have to keep stopping and thinking of what they're saying and form responses. With IM they can just send me a message and when I'm less busy I can read it and reply.
It's kind of like a replacement for certain words. Like shizzle my nizzle is ummm "For reall?" Or "No shit my nigger?" Nizzle being nigger, shizzle being shit, izzle by itself is also shit. It's kind of like "Hax0r j00r b0x0rs" or j00 are teh sux. Geek people get annoyed by this but they find things like "j00 g0t pwned" really funny even though they're the exact same type of bastardization of the english language.
Rice type cars are like imacs, or maybe a gateway with like a flat screen monitor and a slim black tower that sells for only $1,000. They're just cheap pieces of crap meant to look nice. There are a lot of case mods that are just for looks that a lot of people look down on (Ooooo you have a window and a neon light! Badass!) But I'm more impressed with case mods than some decal that took 2 seconds to apply. There's actually some work to making a case mod look nice, now if you buy a case that comes pre-modded, that's kind of lame. Most of the case mods I've done were quite difficult (like the window mod on my DVD drive, it's in the shape of the radioactive symbol, it took a lot of drawing, measuring and precision cutting but it's exactly above where the CD sits, and the shape is perfect.)
All of my future mods will actually increase the performance of my computer while also looking pretty sweet at the same time. I recently cut out the front plastic grill on my case, going to replace it with some chicken wire and a radiator from an ATV. Then I'm going to stick a NOS bottle inside my case, that will be hiding an enheim submersable pump (the 2-lb NOS bottle will be the resevoir and it fits perfectly in my case) I will have watercooling on a peltier, there will also be an exhaust sticking out the back of my case, it will start at the CPU and exit out the back, I think I might put a 80CFM fan at the start, give my CPU some extra cooling, depends on how much it'll make a difference on top of the watercooling.
Rice is bad cause it takes a shitty product, covers it up in a cheap costume, tries to make it look much more expensive then it actually is, and adds absolutely nothing. Well maybe it'll add that "dying cat in your exhaust" noise (wow I love that noise, listening to the raw power of a 4 cylinder 100hp engine at 4,000 RPMs, it totally kicks the crap out of my mustang 5.0.)
I'm suprised more slashdotters don't discuss really tuning their cars, it's such a geek/hacker type thing. You look at an engine, take it apart, figure out how it works, see that maybe if you increase the size of one piece the performance increases but if it's too big the performance decreases, go over a ton of data seeing where you can improve your cars performance by a fraction of a percent, cut up things or hammer them into place just to make them fit. And like a computer you can go get really cheap parts used and put a car together or get some old junked chevelle, restore it and drive around town in your sweet '70 chevelle SS, and the car doesn't go down in value like a computer, the value actually increases. So instead of putting together some 33mhz computer and installing linux on it cause that's the only use, you can buy a totally trashed car, spend a bunch of time fixing it up and working on it till it's in really good shape (maybe spending $3,000-$4,000) and sell it for like $15,000.
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I don't even have my own computer, you insensitive clod!
I know, a dinosaur like IBM will never collaborate with a smaller animal, like linux
*looks up at Linux post card handed out by an IBM rep on the subway*
...uhh nevermind
IBM and Sun don't like each other (dunno why though), and Sun isn't really that small.
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Yeah 11 man years, but for ONE person. If there was like 10 people working on it, that'd be a year straight of developing, lets say you only have 10 people working 8 hours a day 7 days a week (there'd probably be WAY more than 10 people working on this car, only 5 days a week though) it'd take 3 years to develop. That sounds pretty reasonable for a game like that being developed by 10 people.
They don't sell chips, that was my point. The car manufacturers sell all that other stuff but it's all bolt ons. Nothing like a ECU because they don't know which other parts you have on your car so how can they burn a ECU that won't destroy your car and actually give you a performance boost? All of the performance parts they sell were developed by the racing teams (like ford racing.) They don't sell the ECUs that they burn because they're tuned for the race cars, they dynod them, fine tuned them, and burnt the roms. If they sold you the rom your car would run like crap unless your car had the same exact items the racing car had, with the same settings and everything.
Dude racing isn't about HP. And I've never driven "rice" in my whole life. My first car was a Mustang with a 5.0 liter cobra that put out over 300 rwhp. The sentra would blow it away if it had 300 hp at the wheels, it's 1,000 lbs less than the weight of my mustang. My sentra with 300hp would probably destroy most cars on the road too. Also helps a bit to change the rear gear ratio (although it'll take away from the top end, but in the 1/4 mile and during auto-x events the car will accelerate much faster.) I can also change my clutch and flywheel to something lighter to increase the hp at the wheels (a heavy flywheel and clutch will reduce the amount of hp that goes to the wheels because they need more power to spin.) Anyway there's a lot of stuff like that to be done cheaply that will help you beat vipers in a 4 banger.
And my car has a 2.5 liter engine with 175hp, add a turbo kit, 230 (that's a small estimate too), add exhaust, headers, cold air intake, cams, probably take it up to 260, new fuel pump, injectors, valves, pistons, timing changes, increased turbo boost (thanks to the newly changed pistons and valves), bored and polished engine, new and tuned ECU, and the car will probably put out close to (and probably even more than) 300hp, then their's weight reduction that can be done, by this time the car's probably doing a ~12 sec 1/4 mile. There's also NOS that can probably give the car another second on the 1/4 mile (maybe more, these are just low estimates)
They also design a vehicle holistically - The engine will not produce more power than the brakes can handle, the factory alignment won't allow a low-performance driver to get in trouble.
What the hell are you talking about? The biggest restrictor in increasing turbo boost, or changing timing and stuff like that is the engine's internals. The car doesn't check "Hey can my brakes handle all this raw power?" If you put 1,000 hp into a car the brakes won't change a thing, unless you find yourself doing 100 mph between traffic lights. Car manufacturers tune their ECU's to be gentle to the car's engine, and they try to go for good emissions and gas mileage.
(in the interests of fair reporting, this comes from a guy who built a 475 hp/500 ft-lb Corvette...and upgraded teh brakes at the same time...only to be stuck with a tranny bill when said motor had it's way with it.)
You have a Corvette and it's tranny couldn't handle 475hp? Strange... I figured such a beast would have a tranny that can easily handle that hp. I have a Mustang that came with a 4 banger stock and an automatic 3 speed tranny. Now it has a 5.0 Cobra engine in it, the tranny is handeling it (although it's a HUGE restrictor on the cars acceleration.)
How dumb are you? Dude the only way a car company can make money off selling different cars with the same engine is if they include a turbo, or other performance enhancing stuff and then a whole performance package (MazdaSpeed Protege, Dodge Neon SRT-4, Dodge Viper SRT-10, Ford Mustang SVT.) Jeez these cars aren't even in the same league as the cars you'd see on the showroom floor (well I did see all of these cars on the showroom floor but that's besides the point.) The MazdaSpeed Protege is the only one I'd say isn't a HUGE performance boost, but it's still a very nice car at a very nice price and comes with some great stuff for handeling and a nice sound system with a much better look inside than a regular Protege. The Dodge Neon SRT-4 is faster than any other stock car in america for under $20,000 (and faster than a lot over $20,000, like a Nissan 350Z.) Believe me the car companies don't just stick two engines in the exact same car, change a little chip, or put a more restrictive exhaust and sell the faster one for way more.
If you want more power get a different car in the first place. The cars mentioned are not exactly cheap. You could get a second hand car designed to go at those speeds for the same price.
If you want more power, you buy a cheap car and then aftermarket parts. You pay the insurance for a cheap little 4 banger, but get the performance of a big block v-8. I have a Nissan Sentra SE-R SpecV (yeah that's annoying to say I wish they just called it a SpecV.) It was a bit over $21,000 fully loaded (around $17,000 base.) If I spend $7,000 on performance parts the car will be able to drag against dodge vipers that cost around $60,000 (I think a dodge viper has a 12 second 1/4 mile time, I know some SpecV's with under $10,000 of work that run 11 second 1/4 miles)
Just how fast do you need to go down an on-ramp in the first place?
Faster than the cars already on the highway? I live in Arizona so that's about 75mph, and that's just the speed limit, most of these people do 80-90. And besides don't forget after the on-ramp is the wide open road. Then there's the legal use of performance parts, drag strips, local tracks, auto-x events, tons of stuff you can participate in where just an extra 20hp might make a huge difference (yeah I know in auto-x and most track events handeling is better than horsepower but the horsepower helps a lot.)
Tweaking the engine does not affect the performance of you brakes or the handling of the car. If you remove the speed limiter you can go above 155mph, but your tires won't be rated for that speed. If you are lucky you will just wear them out fast, if you are unlucky you will get tread separation. There is a reason why tires for supercars cost $2000+ each.
No, tweaking the engine doesn't affect your brake or handeling performance. But people don't tweak the engine for that, they tweak the brakes and suspension for that. If you're car can go 155mph your tires are probably Z rated, mine are and they came on a Nissan Sentra, it can't go up to 155 (131 was my top speed through the Salt Flats in utah) and it's an economy car. Sure I did get performance packages but still, the people who will buy these chips will probably have the tires to handle the speeds.
I would like to know how to hack the telephone system so I can use a standard motorola phone. Jaguar want $2500 to upgrade the phone the car came with to a GSM version. Not happening, but I did like having the phone controls integrated into the car controls.
You're probably going to have to do that on your own. I don't think any company will waste the time figuring out how to do that since most of the people who buy that car won't have the problem and there isn't a huge demand on figuring that problem out. Sure if you're lucky someone will do it and they'll post directions online but I'm sure it'd be very difficult.
You're way off. No car manufacturer that I know of sells replacement ECU chips, they did all their fine tuning in the factory and they're happy with the results. The reason they don't want you to do it is the same reason that AMD and Intel don't want you to overclock, you can do some serious damage to your engine if you do anything wrong.
Car manufacturers usually have performance divisions (Like Nismo, MazdaSpeed, Ford Racing.) But they don't sell parts that should have been included in the car in the first place. They usually develop parts for the companies race cars and sell the performance parts they can easily mass produce. And I don't think they'd ever sell an ECU because it would be tuned the companies race car, like Nissan's race tuned Sentra Spec-V, not the one you'd see on the showroom floor (if they did sell you the race car ECU, your car would run like crap because it doesn't have the horsepower, same fuel pump, injectors, compression, timing, and other things that the race car has.)
Having the car manufacturers support this would be like AMD and Intel supporting over clockers. It may cause damage to your engine if you use these performance enhancing chips. If the auto manufacturers support this then consumers will believe that it's safe to do, and may risk destroying their engines. Then the people sue the car company because the company supported the chips that lead to a blown engine. If you change your fuel/oxygen mixture to some really bad values you can do A LOT of VERY EXPENSIVE damage to an engine and that's just one example of what can go wrong. A car's ECU controls A LOT of different things, most of them can potentially damage your engine (or the rest of your car maybe even leading into an accident) if you do something wrong.
I'm not saying performance enhancing chips are bad, I'm just saying I understand why a car manufacturer wouldn't want to support them. If you know a tuner to tune the chip or buy a pre-tuned chip, it can be a great add-on.
Everyone has been posting that they didn't clone a human. No they didn't clone a human but the embryo grew well enough in a petry dish to suggest that if they did not extract the stem cells they could have cloned a human. Laws in South Korea allows them to create stem cells in this way but they are not allowed to clone an entire human. In the United States none of this is allowed and for a long time there have been discussions to make the laws more like South Korea (cloning of full humans not allowed but this research in cloning embryos and stuff like that is.)
Anyway, yeah the title is misleading BUT the scientists believe they could have cloned a human.
Yeah and we'll just make sure they let us know they're gonna shoot someone so we can setup the BASIC switch and put the piece of cardboard in front of their guns so when they fire the guns it sets off the camera.
This is completely useless. After doing the same excersize over and over it looses it's muscle developing affect because your body becomes used to doing the task and becomes more efficient at it (and becomes more prone to cheating, doing the excersize the wrong way that's much easier, like swinging an arm to lift a heavy weight).
Maybe if their was some sort of all in one excersize machine controller, like a bowflex or something like that, that can connect to a PC or another game console. That would be a nice way to work out although without a mobile screen you wouldn't be able to see the games without straining yourself, maybe you can use some VR goggles. It'd probably cost a fortune but it'd be a nice excersize machine for geeks (unless they use it too much and damage their muscles.)
Ok you know what forget it, just go to a gym and get a trainer, it'll be much better than working out yourself and much more effective. You won't damage your body and you won't have the same excersize over and over again doing nothing for your muscle development.
...somewhere in Cali? So wouldn't that make the US a lucky country? And wouldn't it be waaaaaaaaay cheaper to get a flight to the US than to australia (unless you're fortunate enough to live near Australia)?
I know this system must be real, I've seen some pictures of a working model running duke nukem forever, the game it will come bundled with.
That car is still an Impala but they don't try to sell it as a rear wheel drive car with a v-8. Just like this card is still a Radeon, although they say it's a 9200 when it's really a 9000.
Maybe there wasn't a single ad in your apartment, go outside though I'm sure you'll find one.
You seem to know very little about both...
Both are grown easily in the home, and can be distributed at almost no cost.
Yes, music can easily be written and played by anyone, with no prior experience, no money and no talent. It won't be good (and most likely it will be the most horrible crap you've ever heard) but hey who cares, it's just like going out and buying music, right?
Weed is just as easy to grow and distribute, you don't need any kind of special equiptment, you can grow weed out of any plastic pot with regular dirt. You don't need any special care for it, and you don't need to worry about the smell going into your neighbors house since growing weed is perfectly legal! Wait... no it's not... Oh well at least you can grow great weed in your house! Even though if you don't really put any money into it, the weed will probably die, or be really crappy. Unless you happen to live in a place where the environment is nice enough for growing it, then you can grow it outside as long as you have no neighbors or if you live somewhere where it's legal. Distribution is just as easy and cheap as growing. You just walk around randomly and ask people if they wanna buy some weed, who cares if more than half of those people will probably want to call the cops and you might even ask an undercover cop.
Neither, on it's own, is are more dangerous than other products that are traded with fewer regulations.
What are you talking about? What regulations are there on selling music? There are regulations on copying music online and stuff like that but there are regulations on any copyrighted material that can be distributed online. There's regulations on selling and buying marijuana but there are regulations on most drugs.
Both products become expensive because of government regulations.
Marijuana is expensive because it's illegal, music is expensive because the RIAA forces stores to sell music at fixed prices. Government regulations would actually lower music prices by forcing the RIAA to let music stores sell the music at their own prices.
To protect the profitability of both products, distributors employ tactics typical of criminal organizations.
You say that like it's not illegal to sell marijuana.
And finally, the real danger appears not because of the product itself, but because of the additives that must be used in the mass market to maximize and protect profit margins. The additives create unknown levels of toxicity to your body and your mind.
What are you talking about?!?! Additives in music? I think you smoke too much weed, but even that doesn't have any "additives" I know of. Unless it's laced with something, and you would normally know if it is. "create unknown levels of toxicity to your body and mind" yeah listening to music I bought in the store creates unknown levels of toxicity to my body and mind.
Of course, manufactured weed and manufactured music are both bad for you, and I would suggest that squirrels and humans avoid their consumption.
Manufactured weed, well government manufactured weed is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than anything you can find on the streets. And manufactured music? What's manufactured music, if you start off with nothing and end up with music, wouldn't that be manufactured? So any music would technically be manufactured. I'm not even going to comment on the squirrels and humans bit but dude LAY OFF THE WEED!
Someone already asked this and another person linked to some article, the article basically said that gravity moves at the speed of light. So if the sun went poof earth would take 8 minutes to float off into space. Some scientists figured this out by measuring the time it took jupiter to bend some quasars radio waves as it passed in front of the quasar.
The enemy (IBM) of my enemy (Microsoft) is my friend (IBM is Microsoft's enemy, therefore, IBM is my friend.)
That's like saying "Why try to go to the new world, shouldn't we solve all of englands problems before trying to colonize this new place."
I regularly stop IM conversations with a phrase like - "Shouldn't this be a phone/face-to-face conversation?" The text medium simply leaves too much room for misunderstanding.
I'm just the opposite. Most conversations are too complex for me to explain things without using IM. So much stuff is missed on the phone and it gets annoying saying "What? Wait what was the last part?" every 3 minutes. With IM I can explain things in minutes that would take hours explaining over the phone.
With IM I could leave a message to my sister like "Ok now click start->control panel, a window should come up and just double click administrative tools, then another window should come up, now open services and find Blah Bob, double click on it, find startup type and select manual, then click stop and ok." (yes I've had conversations like that many times when I was on vacation, I would just send her the message through AIM on my cell phone.)
One simple IM with a series of instructions that would take 20 minutes to explain over the phone (you can't just read off instructions like that over the phone, you actually have to walk the person through it unless they have someone transcribing the phone call on their end, and it's really hard wasting all that time especially when you're in a foreign country and it's costing you $1 a minute just to talk)
And you don't always have a persons full attention on the phone especially when that persons busy. I could be writing some software on my computer very excited and busy because I just had a great idea and I want to get it down before I forget it. If someone called me or tried to talk to me in my room they'd have hardly any of my attention and I'd have to keep stopping and thinking of what they're saying and form responses. With IM they can just send me a message and when I'm less busy I can read it and reply.
It's kind of like a replacement for certain words. Like shizzle my nizzle is ummm "For reall?" Or "No shit my nigger?" Nizzle being nigger, shizzle being shit, izzle by itself is also shit. It's kind of like "Hax0r j00r b0x0rs" or j00 are teh sux. Geek people get annoyed by this but they find things like "j00 g0t pwned" really funny even though they're the exact same type of bastardization of the english language.
Rice type cars are like imacs, or maybe a gateway with like a flat screen monitor and a slim black tower that sells for only $1,000. They're just cheap pieces of crap meant to look nice. There are a lot of case mods that are just for looks that a lot of people look down on (Ooooo you have a window and a neon light! Badass!) But I'm more impressed with case mods than some decal that took 2 seconds to apply. There's actually some work to making a case mod look nice, now if you buy a case that comes pre-modded, that's kind of lame. Most of the case mods I've done were quite difficult (like the window mod on my DVD drive, it's in the shape of the radioactive symbol, it took a lot of drawing, measuring and precision cutting but it's exactly above where the CD sits, and the shape is perfect.)
All of my future mods will actually increase the performance of my computer while also looking pretty sweet at the same time. I recently cut out the front plastic grill on my case, going to replace it with some chicken wire and a radiator from an ATV. Then I'm going to stick a NOS bottle inside my case, that will be hiding an enheim submersable pump (the 2-lb NOS bottle will be the resevoir and it fits perfectly in my case) I will have watercooling on a peltier, there will also be an exhaust sticking out the back of my case, it will start at the CPU and exit out the back, I think I might put a 80CFM fan at the start, give my CPU some extra cooling, depends on how much it'll make a difference on top of the watercooling.
Rice is bad cause it takes a shitty product, covers it up in a cheap costume, tries to make it look much more expensive then it actually is, and adds absolutely nothing. Well maybe it'll add that "dying cat in your exhaust" noise (wow I love that noise, listening to the raw power of a 4 cylinder 100hp engine at 4,000 RPMs, it totally kicks the crap out of my mustang 5.0.)
I'm suprised more slashdotters don't discuss really tuning their cars, it's such a geek/hacker type thing. You look at an engine, take it apart, figure out how it works, see that maybe if you increase the size of one piece the performance increases but if it's too big the performance decreases, go over a ton of data seeing where you can improve your cars performance by a fraction of a percent, cut up things or hammer them into place just to make them fit. And like a computer you can go get really cheap parts used and put a car together or get some old junked chevelle, restore it and drive around town in your sweet '70 chevelle SS, and the car doesn't go down in value like a computer, the value actually increases. So instead of putting together some 33mhz computer and installing linux on it cause that's the only use, you can buy a totally trashed car, spend a bunch of time fixing it up and working on it till it's in really good shape (maybe spending $3,000-$4,000) and sell it for like $15,000.