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NASA Releases Mars Data for Maestro
The Maestro Team writes "The Jet Propulsion Laboratory has released the first Mars data update for Maestro, containing images just received from the Spirit Mars rover. Maestro is the public version of the actual tool used by the mission scientists to operate the rover. You can download Maestro and the latest Mars images from the official Maestro site, and join the developers and other users in #maestro on irc.freenode.net."
Now we just need to sent it looking for that British probe.
http://torrent.andrewhitchcock.org/files/Maestro-U pdate01-Windows.exe.torrent
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What is the sound of this sentence?
I spent all that time building my own rover, hoping, nay - praying, for this to happen. It's nice to finally be able to do something with it other than cover up the crab grass on my lawn.
Get your your bittorrent files here:
Maestro for Windows & Mars Dataset #1
Maestro for Linux & Mars Dataset #1
(tar -xzvf dataset immediately above your "JPL" directory)
Maestro for Solaris & Mars Dataset #1
(tar -xzvf dataset immediately above your "JPL" directory)
Maestro for Mac & Mars Dataset #1
(Requires Java3D)
Maestro User's Guide (pdf)
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Provide feedback to these folks: maestro [at] telascience [dot] org
I can't wait to start exploring. On the advice of some other /.ers yesterday I grabbed maestro early. Looks like it was a good thing I did...
Damon,
http://actionPlant.com
Maestro is the public version of the actual tool used by the mission scientists to operate the rover.
So I'm guessing this public version of the tool used to operate the rover lacks some capabilities, like the ability to operate the rover?
Now I can roll my own.. um... homebrew mars shuttle with robotic rover ... ... hey, wait a minute.
Well, at least now John Carmack will be able to finance and execute a robotic expedition to his backyard.. or perhaps Big Bend State Park...
Downloaded it and its pretty cool lookin... it's neat to see the pre-processed raw images. They even have a 3d model of the rover and its surroundings (however the rendering process makes everything EXTREMELY dissying). What puzzled me though is that Maestro is written in Java and a java application can be run on any virtual machine that has the necessary files therefore preventing seperate OS editions, but for some reason this has separate douwnloads for Linux/Solaris, Windows, and OSX. Hmm... anyway looking forward to the next data pack!
- can they program it to find us a presidential candidate?
I'm laughing at clouds.
These are the kinds of things that will interest people in space exploration again. Although the site is "conserving bandwidth", and didn't have as much info as I would like available right this second, the idea that I can be reviewing the data returned by the Mars rovers at the same time as NASA's scientists is really, really appealing.
This is the kind of thing that makes people seriously consider careers in science. Imagine a father and son (or mother and daughter) pouring over this info together, comparing their take with NASA's. That's super exciting.
Maybe one of the kids downloading Maestro today will take the first steps on Mars tomorrow...
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We (the Maestro team) hope you all really enjoy Maestro. Don't forget to join us in our chat channel (#maestro in mars.telascience.org) and send us your comments at maestro (at) telascience (dot) org.
I know what you mean, Emo Phillips makes me cry too.
Heh. I assure you that steps were taken to ensure that Maestro will pose no risk whatsoever to the mission. We were careful about that. :)
The sensitive code that could've compromised the mission was removed from the public release.
emo.
Little do you know that it can used to control all the millions of RC mini-cars that I sold worldwide via spam! Bwahahaha!
I love this program. I have never felt so close to space exploration as I do when I'm poking around it.
It is an awe inspiring mission and this software practically lets you touch it.
Heres an interesting quote from their "Conductor" guided tour of the dataset, which is extensive and shows you EVERYTHING they have on the mission so far.
(emphasis mine)
The images shown here were among the first to arrive from Mars. The Navcam image on top was taken before the rover mast was deployed. The rover's high-gain antenna can be seen on the left side of the image. It was this image, loaded in the mission version of Maestro, that gave the scientists their first glimpse of where Spirit had landed.
liqbase
Please, ban the bastard posting the *SAME* message 5 billion times in the same topic.
man the pictures i have seen so far are absolutley amazing. I cant wait to get a lot more. Here is to a long life for the rovers. Maestro is pretty slick.
Did JPL violate the GPL?
This is somewhat offtopic (apologies in advance), but I've heard that some museums / science centers are going to be building realistic Mars terrain models, and replica rovers are going to travel the country. Interactive exhibits are planned where visitors can control the replica as it moves across the fake Mars terrain. Download maestro now to practice!
Maybe if we all pull "left" at the same time...
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How does this advance Man in ways that benefit the body, the Family of Man? Will it feed people or solve the mystery of AIDS? Will it allow old people to get their meds cheaper? Isn't there better ways to spend billions of dollars that benefit mankind in a more substantial way?
The International Space Station has so much more promise to benefit our everyday life, yet it is now just a footnote, almost forgotten. We should be concentrating on ideas that benefit mankind in tangible ways.
"Who are in control, they are not in control of anything - they don't even control themselves!" - Glen Beck
Second I think it is real cool that some of the key people in the project / science team at NASA are women. Maybe this will help in that department as well, we sure need their brain power in the tech sector.
Help fight continental drift.
Indeed. One of the most impressive crapfloods I've ever seen.
Once, however, there are a far more insideous crapflood on alt.games.final-fantasy-rpg back in the good ol' dialup days.
You're right, I wouldn't steal a car. But if it were possible, I sure as hell would download one!
Most of these posts are dissapearing fairly quickly, the editors and some mods are taking care of it. This is an impressive crap flood, probably rotating IPs somehow.
"Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
Did anyone else see THIS?
http://www.kubuntu.org/
No, they can't. If Slashdot starts deleting troll posts and crapfloods they're participating in active censorship which is one thing they're committed to avoid. Slashdot is a social experiment in total freedom of speech with zero "true" moderation. Meaning you take the good with the bad. The intelligent discussion with the GNAA. The interesting comments with the crapfloods.
You're right, I wouldn't steal a car. But if it were possible, I sure as hell would download one!
There is a filter for dupe messages, but it has to be the exact same message, notice all the GNAA posts have a random number at the bottom. Expext the dupe post filter to become a bit fuzzier soon. Now only if there were a dupe filter for the editors too... :p
"Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
Those insensitive clods gave us insensitive code!
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Fucking amazing. I went to the main page and right now it says "50 of 633 comments". Wow.
I meta-mod all positive moderation Unfair, because it's abuse of the system.
Someone get the biggest wlan signal booster they can find and ship it in a freighter to the Arecibo observatory while I install this baby on a laptop. Ever had an RC car whose control frequency interfered with something? Think bigger. >:)
Hate me!
Since when did the government care to provide Linux support? NASA is truely the exception to the rule.
Until I change these bits thusly.
Now, off we go to resuce the Beagle! Special thanks to MovieOS for making this possible.
Recycle PCs and build a wireless community network www.hillsborough.org.nz
swim down
It has been totally hijacked by GNAA bastards. They can all go to hell.
:)
Dear slashdot:
Here is a suggestion:
Add the term GNAA into the lameness filter.
This idea should be modded insightful, but I'm sure it's offtopic.
Just to stay on topic, I want to say that this mission to Mars thing is huge. It's a shame that it's not headline news in the mainstream media. which is truly sad when Brittany Spears' marriage can captivate audiences more than interesting science breakthroughs.
Where is Bill Nye's Marsdial? Thats what I want to see.
That was on this probe right?
I think this calls for a great collection of Mars rover political cartoons from the various newspapers: http://cagle.slate.msn.com/news/Mars2004/main.asp
It has been totally hijacked by GNAA bastards. They can all go to hell.
:)
Dear slashdot:
Here is a suggestion:
Add the term GNAA into the lameness filter.
This idea should be modded insightful, but I'm sure it's offtopic.
Just to stay on topic, I want to say that this mission to Mars thing is huge. It's a shame that it's not headline news in the mainstream media. which is truly sad when Brittany Spears' marriage can captivate audiences more than interesting science breakthroughs.
what do you think?
Ah yes. I am getting this Maestro thingy at 11.1Mbps. Heh. OC-12 to Abilene....
Comparing it to Windows will be a moot point, since El Dorado is going to have a 40% larger code base than XP.
D00D! Where cna I downlaod ur Maestro cr4ckw4rz?
Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, A, B, A, B, Start! It worked in the past, I'm sure it will work again!
You can download Maestro and...
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Have they forgotten this is
It should read: You used to be able to download Maestro and...
Well, I really hope that people won't be scared away from Maestro because of all the rubbish posted here. It certainly killed any useful discussion before it could start. It's a pity - we worked very hard on Maestro, and I think that there are a lot of people out there who would enjoy it.
:) ). Does this happen often? How is it usually dealt with? It seems like in situations like this the editors might consider just pulling the article and posting it again later.
:(
I'm very new to Slashdot (ok, ok, I joined just so I could announce Maestro
Of course, I don't see how anyone could even FIND this post considering the company it will be keeping.. oh well!
Jeff Norris
Maestro Team Lead
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Does it come with source code? A program is of little use to me unless I can hack on it.
Got Code?
Can this program be used a Windows/MacOS X/Linux screen saver to collect images? I'd love to show this program off at work. ;)
Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).
JPL-Jeff, don't be discouraged by the nonsense posted on slashdot from time to time -- your message is easily caught from amongst the "crapflood." Regardless, trust in the slashdot moderators, hopefully they'll keep things in check.
Moreover, trust that your link will be getting all the attention it needs. I noticed your download links far up in the discussion (inside the crapflood taht is), and I'm sure others have as well.
Hopefully the moderators will be on the ball tonight -- at least they can easily see where the spam is.
No worries though, you've got an awesome piece of software, and I'm as eager as anybody to see it in action.
Thanks!
I asked JPL-jeff on IRC about it and his answer was:
gozu - I don't have the numbers in front of me. It's like about 15 Mbits of products per day on the HGA, more like 180 Mbits per day on the UHF if we do all the orbiter passes.So it averages out to 2.3 Kbps! Of course, this is in bursts so the real speeds are higher than this. But still...It's shocking.
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/java3d andjavaadvancedimagingupdate.html
It doesn't specifically tell you, but if you try to fire up Maestro without Java3D, nothing happens.
As it is, this is a quality Java app -- reminds me of old *quality* Encarta multimedia footage (back in oh... 1998 or so). Just better. :-)
-Rob
Marriage doesn't have to suck!
This might be off topic, but did they disinfect the rovers to make them free of bacteria, etc. before they launched? Is there a possibility that landing there could bring some life from earth to mars? At the least, is there the possiblity that something like this could cause the rover itself contaminate the soil samples the rover will analyze?
I guess that seems farfetched but I thought I read on slashdot awhile back that NASA didn't want to crash a probe into a Jupiter moon for some reason like this.
http://forums.xandros.com/viewtopic.php?t=4233
This is a post about getting it to work on Xandros Linux, but people using other distros with newer versions of libstdc++ may have the same problem, so you may need to symbolically link the libstdc library on your unit to the version the software calls for as well.
The software is a PIG. Its a Java application and even on my 3.0Ghz HP graphics workstation with a Quadro4 graphics card, its slow and a major memory hog. Still, Its pretty cool.
Might this soil crust on Mars be same/similar to the biological soil crust found at Arches National Park (Moab, Utah)?
Additional details regarding biological soil crusts maybe are to found here:
intermediate details
advanced details
I believe Juanita
Consider a Mars base on the planet and not orbiting around it. Humans on the base will experience a low gravity environment all the time. Babies born on the base will grow to be a lot taller and a lot weaker than Earth babies.
When we move on to the next planet (say we find a lot of geothermal activity on Neptune keeping it warm), we will have to deal with other issues. The constraints of the living environment may dictate a different (but tolerable) gaseous composition, say mostly CO2 and O2 with no N2. Neptune babies may grow to develop different lung structures (not evolution, but just adaptation) in addition to being super-strong midgets because of the gravity.
Mars-raised humans will be different enough from Neptune-raised humans that we may have difficulty building any sort of kinship. Mars-raised humans will probably not be able to deal with Earth's gravity and much less Neptune's gravity and artificial atmosphere.
How are we going to relate to these creatures of the "same species"? Will we even connect or care about them, much less think about what is "beneficial to the entire species"?
My wife agrees with you, she says that at the very least this is the stuff that inspires our children to discover new things, to be the on the edge that discovers the new technologies, to be the Einstein's of our age, with new ideas we can only dream about. I guess I'm just a bit disappointed that with the billions of dollars out there, hard science that addresses social issues has such a low priority.
"Who are in control, they are not in control of anything - they don't even control themselves!" - Glen Beck
Even the tutorial which usually bugs the hell outta me was convenient. I actually like the raw images better, gives it more of an "exploratory" feel :) Fun fun fun.
Actually http://www.rlscnetwork.com/sharedresources/chat.ht ml?ServerName=IRC.FREENODE.NET&Channel=MAESTRO
should get you straight there.
Cheers
"No. People may have valid reasons to post as AC."
Never said kill it all together, I said kill it until the crapflood dies.
"Derp de derp."
Didn't realize I had a fan.
"Derp de derp."
I saw in excess of 1000 comments, but when I checked initially with my usual filtering I only saw 70 or 80. The rest were clearly spam in the purest sense of the word (check them, they surely were made automatically).
It is the first time I see something that vicious here, I wonder if it is a bunch of different machines 0wn3d by a cracker posting each comments as ACs (thus making too laborious to block based on IP address...).
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
LMFAO!!!!!
eat shit you offtopic whore.
This story has received 1220 comments, including this one.
Total crapflood comments: 996
Comments discussing the crapflood: 59
Comments scored at -1 (not included above): 27
Legitimate, on-topic comments: 138
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(sorry about the periods. The lameness filter made me put them in.)
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