Errr...that cheap looking stuff is polycarbonate you're dissing there. Sure, it's been around for a while, but the stuff they use on the iBook is many generations advanced, and is super tough, super light, UV resistant, has excellent transparency to EM radiation (ie, your airport reception will be damn good), and is pretty much as space-age as you're going to get on a consumer product. Scratches should also polish out pretty well with the right product (tip - I used to use toothpaste). Maybe you haven't noticed, but chicks also dig it - a good sign that it's pretty snappy in the fashion stakes.
Jonathan Ives (Apple's designer) is a pretty switched on guy, and takes his cues from the cutting edge of design. Stainless steel with blue lights was so early 90's. Expect the product designs of 2009 to be sporting white led's, anodised aluminium, and polycarbonate.
I understand that white is not everyones thing (hey, I'm a brown/grey guy myself), but man - the iPod is not ugly.
Christmas 2012 "Dvorak: Apple is dying!"
January 2013 "iPod: 2012's hottest selling item, AAPL up 25%, Steve Jobs voted Time's 'Man most likely to be the Messiah'. "
Ok - didn't mean to sound like I was jumping down your thoat - sorry. Maybe the competition conditions could be a little less "all your base belong to us!" - limited to display on your website only, or something.
Anyway - good luck with a new logo (and...err...your software...)!
This "develop a logo for my company" thing is well and good, but can you put it in your sig, so that those of us who don't want to be bombarded with ad's/spam can choose not to see it?
Also this competition you're promoting has a horrible condition - "The remaining entries' designs will remain the property of our company to be used or showcased as we see fit".
This condition is rubbish. It is evil. It sounds like you're not thinking of actually paying anyone - and will use whatever logo you want, without compensating it's creator. Given that's your attitude, maybe you won't mind if I pirate your software because I wasn't going to buy it anyway?
And because there are a lot of 'young'ns' here (chill guys - repect;) ) who aren't really familar with all the crap from Microsoft we oldies have put up with - and so might think I'm exagerating - here's some links:
It's worth remembering that Apple has been through this before with Microsoft. If I remember correctly, when Microsoft ripped off Apple's UI elements (that weren't specifically licensed to them) in Win95, Apple fought them with the idea that their interface was protected under copyright (trashcan -> recycle bin, etc etc).
Apple lost (this was the one lawsuit many of us were hoping would sink Microsoft once and for all) because their UI elements were not 'patented'. They learnt well from this lesson and have since been patenting every widget under the sun.
I fully expect Google know their history well, and also know that Microsoft is sniffing around their territory. They would be fools to think that Microsoft would treat them any differently to Apple, and are probably thinking how to protect themselves as best they can.
"Finder is seriously lacking with respect to the power of explorer. Explorer is the best file manager that I have ever used"
Errr - I can't quite tell if you're trolling, or you've only ever used Explorer. Hell, I used to get annoyed that even the FileManager that came with Win3.1 was more powerful than Explorer (and I am being serious).
"Finder is missing a lot of stuff that I find basic. The biggest that I can think of is the lack of a keyboard-based copy/cut/paste. I would kill for a cmd+c in finder."
Again, on the off chance that you're not a troll, "cmd+c" (notice, not "ctrl+c") does exactly what you want it too. Yes, in the Finder.
IMO, one of the best things about the Aqua GUI is the ability to set keyboard short-cuts for anything.
You might not get this, now the threads a bit old....
You posted this as AC below: Furthermore, since we're talking about iTunes specifically, maybe I'll give it another chance when I can play my ogg files on it.
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I used an Olivetti 386 (one of the first 386's I thinks) too, when I first started work (when I was still finishing school...many many years ago now).
It was a really beautifully made machine - I remember opening the case (which was easy) and marvelling at how well laid out it was. It gave you a real faith that the thing was built to last (and it did).
This was in stark contrast to the machine that replaced it - some generic 486. I think this was the machine that made me hate Wintels - I swear it would take 3 hours to add ram or a harddrive because it was so damn hard to get at any of the components. Cables in the way of everything. ISA slots blocked by the PSU. Erk.
I had/used a fair few of the machines listed in this book too. Many of them were really well designed and made (well, maybe not the Amiga 500 - does anyone remember pressing a certain spot on the keyboard to reseat the CIA chip underneath?!).
The only recent computer that I can think of that seem to match the deisgn and build quality of some of these oldies is the Powermac G4's. Anyone else?
It does already exist (though not to such a refined extent). There was a slashdot article not long ago on a computer/sensor network full of nodes, who's individual sizes were about 50 cubic mm or so. The nodes were monitoring a island ecosystem IIRC.
I'm late for work now, so maybe some other Slashdotter with a good memory can find a link to the story for you.
Frightening and a little exciting at the same time, indeed.
I think parent is trying to say that - to uninstall something on a mac, you drag it to the trash. End of story. No reg entries loading hidden files somewhere, no key nonsense, etc.
Depending on the Linux distro things can also be this easy - there are a few distro's that put things in a couple of places IIRC.
The parent's point is that many of these hard to remove spyware apps can exist and defy attempts to kill them off because of the Windows Registry. It's so easy for apps to mess with it. No app is going to mess with OS X system config files, no matter how much market share it has, because the user doesn't run as root.
It's a play on words - in French. The symbols '2', 'C', 'V' in French are pronounced du-zso-vo (my attempt at phonetics) which sounds like "two horses" - Deux Chevaux. I don't know for sure, but I'd guess that the original 2CV's had a bit more than 2 horse power.
I often take my powerbook into work when we need an extra photoshop machine or something. It takes about 10 seconds for people to realise all the shiny icons at the bottom of the screen are applications. The fact that they pop up with the name of the app when you mouse-over helps too.
As for being used to unix and moving to OS X - and this is where I know you're trolling - what's the difference between my bash and your bash? Nothing!
Listen, I don't mean this to sound like a flame...but I've no idea where you're living if you live in a capitalist society. More than likely you've living somewhere that has an economy based on capitalism - that is, real capitalism died with the great depression in most places, as left unchecked and without some kind of socialist style safety net it had the power to harm society.
Now this is a really brief history lesson - you should really go and read a bit more rather than taking my word for it - however it was simply to make this point:
Capitalism has nothing to do with the internal pressures of society. Thievery was around long before capitalism, feudalism, markets, and even money. It's not about being lazy, or not working hard - it's simply that sometimes it's easier to take what you want from someone else rather than get it through legitimate means.
The older iBooks can (pre airport extreme). They were a fav for war-chalking not long ago for this very reason. A couple of Mac war-driving utilities even built in the utility to over-ride sleep mode when the lid is closed.
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In Korea, only old people use Workbench!
err.....sorry ;)
Drive platter?! Amateur. I use a hole punch and reams of cartridge paper cards. When I'm being lazy I just get to work with vacuum tubes.
Jonathan Ives (Apple's designer) is a pretty switched on guy, and takes his cues from the cutting edge of design. Stainless steel with blue lights was so early 90's. Expect the product designs of 2009 to be sporting white led's, anodised aluminium, and polycarbonate.
I understand that white is not everyones thing (hey, I'm a brown/grey guy myself), but man - the iPod is not ugly.
Christmas 2012 "Dvorak: Apple is dying!"
January 2013 "iPod: 2012's hottest selling item, AAPL up 25%, Steve Jobs voted Time's 'Man most likely to be the Messiah'. "
Anyway - good luck with a new logo (and...err...your software...)!
Also this competition you're promoting has a horrible condition - "The remaining entries' designs will remain the property of our company to be used or showcased as we see fit".
This condition is rubbish. It is evil. It sounds like you're not thinking of actually paying anyone - and will use whatever logo you want, without compensating it's creator. Given that's your attitude, maybe you won't mind if I pirate your software because I wasn't going to buy it anyway?
If I give you my mailing address, will you send it to me?
There's far too much computer in your computer, and not enough...typewriter.
Apple v's Microsoft (good brief overview of the original $5.5 billion suit)
Apple patent window trasnparency
Apple patents iTunes interface
And lots more...just Google.
Apple lost (this was the one lawsuit many of us were hoping would sink Microsoft once and for all) because their UI elements were not 'patented'. They learnt well from this lesson and have since been patenting every widget under the sun.
I fully expect Google know their history well, and also know that Microsoft is sniffing around their territory. They would be fools to think that Microsoft would treat them any differently to Apple, and are probably thinking how to protect themselves as best they can.
Someone enshrine this for eternity! Best use of "turd-slave dickwad" in a post ever!
Errr - I can't quite tell if you're trolling, or you've only ever used Explorer. Hell, I used to get annoyed that even the FileManager that came with Win3.1 was more powerful than Explorer (and I am being serious).
"Finder is missing a lot of stuff that I find basic. The biggest that I can think of is the lack of a keyboard-based copy/cut/paste. I would kill for a cmd+c in finder."
Again, on the off chance that you're not a troll, "cmd+c" (notice, not "ctrl+c") does exactly what you want it too. Yes, in the Finder.
IMO, one of the best things about the Aqua GUI is the ability to set keyboard short-cuts for anything.
You posted this as AC below: Furthermore, since we're talking about iTunes specifically, maybe I'll give it another chance when I can play my ogg files on it.
Lo and Behold!:
http://www.illadvised.com/~jordy/
Mac only though I'm afraid, heh heh heh.
It was a really beautifully made machine - I remember opening the case (which was easy) and marvelling at how well laid out it was. It gave you a real faith that the thing was built to last (and it did).
This was in stark contrast to the machine that replaced it - some generic 486. I think this was the machine that made me hate Wintels - I swear it would take 3 hours to add ram or a harddrive because it was so damn hard to get at any of the components. Cables in the way of everything. ISA slots blocked by the PSU. Erk.
I had/used a fair few of the machines listed in this book too. Many of them were really well designed and made (well, maybe not the Amiga 500 - does anyone remember pressing a certain spot on the keyboard to reseat the CIA chip underneath?!).
The only recent computer that I can think of that seem to match the deisgn and build quality of some of these oldies is the Powermac G4's. Anyone else?
I'm late for work now, so maybe some other Slashdotter with a good memory can find a link to the story for you.
Frightening and a little exciting at the same time, indeed.
Depending on the Linux distro things can also be this easy - there are a few distro's that put things in a couple of places IIRC.
The parent's point is that many of these hard to remove spyware apps can exist and defy attempts to kill them off because of the Windows Registry. It's so easy for apps to mess with it. No app is going to mess with OS X system config files, no matter how much market share it has, because the user doesn't run as root.
Get it?
Should be on it's way to you now.
It's a play on words - in French. The symbols '2', 'C', 'V' in French are pronounced du-zso-vo (my attempt at phonetics) which sounds like "two horses" - Deux Chevaux. I don't know for sure, but I'd guess that the original 2CV's had a bit more than 2 horse power.
That's his job - taking the fun out of fundamentalism!
I often take my powerbook into work when we need an extra photoshop machine or something. It takes about 10 seconds for people to realise all the shiny icons at the bottom of the screen are applications. The fact that they pop up with the name of the app when you mouse-over helps too.
As for being used to unix and moving to OS X - and this is where I know you're trolling - what's the difference between my bash and your bash? Nothing!
In this case it isn't the dpi that's important, but rather that you get a reasonable resolution in such a small space.
Cheers!
Now this is a really brief history lesson - you should really go and read a bit more rather than taking my word for it - however it was simply to make this point:
Capitalism has nothing to do with the internal pressures of society. Thievery was around long before capitalism, feudalism, markets, and even money. It's not about being lazy, or not working hard - it's simply that sometimes it's easier to take what you want from someone else rather than get it through legitimate means.
The older iBooks can (pre airport extreme). They were a fav for war-chalking not long ago for this very reason. A couple of Mac war-driving utilities even built in the utility to over-ride sleep mode when the lid is closed.