You have no clue as to how a record label operates. So, I will work it out for you.
1.) Label pays music group for exclusive rights to record, produce, manufacture, and distribute the group's music, for a set number of records (usually they sign someone else to do the distro).
2.) The band is paid by the label to come up with songs, then the LABEL PAYS for the recording.
3.) They then pay for the produvtion, manufacturing, design and whatever else of the record. Sometimes they screw the band royally and make the group pay for expensive videos etc.
Do you get the point yet? Where is Apple Computer Corp. in any of this? In fact, your "iTMS exclusive" - example only highlights the diffferences between the two Apples.
Note that Apple must get rights FROM A RECORD LABEL to work this out. IF THEY WERE A LABEL - they would be working things out with the artists, producers, etc. Getting a label to agree to exclusive tracks is something a record store might do though, right?
The current state of our court system might not look at common sense (different rulings on same issues - on same day, making a man take down his american flag) but to the rest of us, this IS a frivolous lawsuit.
Your little pro-Immigration rant was nice, but it should have been modded off topic. The topic here is that the US does nothing to protect it's workers, while India does. This is unfair.
The US needs to do something about this. I don't mind jobs moving to other countries, I also don't mind people from other countries coming here. I do mind countries taking advantage of our near-open borders, while not extending the same openess to us.
1.) The Videos were stupid. One had some guy babble on about how the GBA sucks, sporting a stupid orange shirt, and stupid facial hair. The other showed more crap, less screenshots.
2.) The site was soooo dumb. Saving features so people have to come back for them when they are released? How many times did you click on the other features untill you realized they were not active? Where are the screenshots? Game info?
Damn! Finally somebody agrees with me! I have been modded down for claiming Xbox is just a PC without the ability to upgrade stuff. You just earned a fan, im doing it right now.
This "console," doesn't stand a chance in the US. Maybe in Korea where the broadband reach is bigger, but not here. The Xbox will someday look like this, and maybe even the PS2, but I hope there will always be a market for a real, hard-drive-less, game console out there. After dealing with PCs all day at work, I love to fire-up a toy (GameCube) at home.
I guess I wouldn't mind playing Zelda, Metroid, Sunshine, Madden, or FIFA online though.
Yeah, um just like the Romans, right? They were really good at documenting their losses, and they never once decreed that somethign be stricken from the records....
I should not be, but I am suprised by your complete lack of tact/information in this matter. Science is full of crap (it always has been), your "world is flat," comment should prove that. Though I subscribe to almost all modern scientific theories, I am not suprised when any of them are turned completly on their heads.
As far as the biblical stuff goes, the same applies. The difference between me and you would be: I have not decided that I alone possess all the answers. You assumably have.
You should go back and read/watch Sagan's Contact for a nerdy/lack-of-attention-span forray into this stuff.
Yikes! Have you ever seen the directors cut?
Sure it WAS eye-candy, but the story and the acting weren't bad either. Watch the directors cut, then watch the Matrix. Laugh out loud as Reaves delivers a laughable performance, then ask yourself which film is better...
I can see why your would think such a thing having NOT watched the film as it was meant to be watched. Really you should check it out.
Jeez, I think/. it the only place where people could agree that the matrix was better the Blade Runner Directors Cut.
You guys should go read Neuromancer and SnowCrash, might remind you thatThe Matrix was revolutionary, only in visuals.
Nothing as revolutionary as what that guy is saying, but what does it take to create your own distro?
By distro, I mean mini-distro (or sub-distro) of course. How hard is it to take your favorite distro (or a base kernel) and throw out all the crap you don't want, then burn an ISO?
Are there any resources for this type of project? What about services that will let you pick and choose exactly what you want, and nothing you don't want. Then, they (it) send you your custom distro, solving all the dependency issues and stuff. Is there anything like this?
Some examples would be...
I would love a disk that just had enough to set up a minimal file server, or a web server. A filtering bridge would be cool as well. What about a My/PostgreSQL server?
Remember, convenience is great for noobs and wizards alike.
Have you read much early american history (post civil war-ww2)?
Unenforced libertarian economics does not work. It's proven history. People, unless checked by the group will only do what helps themselves.
BTW: it's nice to hear someone with your point of view not sound like a complete prick. I have had many discussions with people with hands-off economic ideas, most of them don't realize how easy they have it as white males.
Even better is iTunes new built in sharing features. They do not however work with the pay-for format. When you enable it, it displays a warning: Sharing is for personal use only.
The store is also down already 504 error.
Also, 1-Click shopping is available, did they pay Amazon for this?
This stat is misleading. There are so many different versions of flash that it doesn't matter how many browsers have it installed. They diddn't start auto-upgrading until quite recently. Even that doesn't work on some browser+flash+OS combos.
So, I could have it installed, but still not be able to view some sites. Here are two examples of sites that used all flash designs, that were made with the newest version of flash, which didn't work with my browser+OS combo.
www.crashshop.com www.marshillchurch.com
That said, it is still great some things, just use common sense. Replacing the traditional gif+jpeg space in your site with flash is fine by me, and it doesn't mess with your data.
Did I really need Flash 6.* to view the text+links about Clair Danes?
p.s. Also, flash is inhearently anti web. It does not conform to any W3C standards or anything.
So how do you propose we make a handheld with a 17" display?
Well, what if the 17" display was incorporated into a PPC docking station? If my PPC had a laptop HD either built in, or a secondary HD it could access when plugged into my monitor (with a built in USB hub), I would never need my win-desktop (for work that is).
For road use, you make a good point. When traveling, something better then the dinky screen on my PPC would be a must for some.
I think the screen issue along with the data entry issue are the two last hurdles to clear for these little machines to start replacing the clunks at work (more for home use: gaming?). Although, who has a 17" laptop screen? The lucky few who have them don't seem to mind lugging around those, do they?
Remember, PPC or CE can be made to run on any sized machine, you seem to be thinking that size of OS and machine size are related.:)
It's nice to see the original image in this case. The color-enhanced added ones look pretty, and contribute to further exploration funding, but are often misleading.
So does this mean that I have to now pay a per-minute charge for telemarketers? Who is liable for all the lost minutes that will accumulate? Also, does this mean text messaging will get even more spam filled? It seams that with this, marketing will actually cost consumers, I hope this isn't just the first in a long line of consumer-paid-for advertising.
Also, I expect a lawsuit over this, once it's too late.
Yeah, your right, as you can tell from the monoparagraph (forgot to preview, should have noticed html was on), I didn't read my post until after I sent it in. I am a little upset about the war thing; I kind of took it out on whatever I commented on today.
I still don?t think the XBOX is really a traditional console though, its large size, and almost off the shelf PC hardware really turns me off.
I don't think I have ever seen anyone admit to being wrong on/. Wonder if they have a -3 mod on all posts containing admissions of incorrectness?
"gimpy media: cartridges, mini-DVDs, instead of CDs and regular DVDs."
The N64 carts= no load times. Maybe they just look after players more then developer?
"X-Box has also struggled with developers, but they clearly had (and still has) the best engine behind the games"
Best engine? Excuse me but have you seen the textures on the GameCube??? Games that can use them, like Tony Hawk and any sports game look way better on GameCube then any other platform. Also, proc speed has almost nothing to do with these games anymore. Nintendo knew that, Sony knew that, the only one who didn?t know that is MS.
Also, who do you assume is winning? Nintendo is doing just fine producing the best console games on the market, and only allowing other high quality developers develop games for their console.
My main issue with XBOX, which I have played quite a bit, is the hard drive. As soon as you add a hard drive (the most unstable element of any computer) you no longer have a console, you now have a computer.
Now that the XBOX is just a computer, why can't I plug in my PC controllers? Why cant I play PC games? Why can't I upgrade my machine?
The XBOX possesses all he negative aspects of a PC (too many parts, instability) and all of the negative aspects of consoles (closed system, incompatibility, can't upgrade). To me the choice has always been PS2 or GC. To choose the XBOX would be choosing the worst of both worlds.
Internet History: It Took a Network of Individuals to Invent a Network of Networks
"Apparently when taking a bath, he (Archimedes) discovered the buoyancy principle and jumped up and ran through the streets naked shouting 'Eureka' which means - I have found it." (Russell, http://math.about.com/library/blbioarchimedes.htm)
Some discoveries might be the result of one well-prepared mind in the right place at the right time, but the Internet is not one of them. There are many misconceptions about who invented the Internet and many more about what the Internet actually is. Some think that Al Gore might have invented the Internet due to a statement he made during his ill-fated 2000 presidential election. Some say that Vannevar Bush invented the Internet in his paper "As We May Think". Though Tim Berners-Lee is credited with the invention of the World Wide Web, and Larry Roberts is considered the Father of the Internet, the technologies that make up the network of networks, or the Internet, were invented inductively, layer-by-layer, and over time by many different individuals.
The spectrum of technologies that make up the Internet is too broad for an individual to create on their sole intellect. The Internet is a network of networks connecting computers together using one method called TCP/IP. Each of the connected computers uses software to share information, access information, or both. The software that shares information is called a server. One of the many software programs available to access information is a browser. According to a University of California Berkley tutorial on finding information on the Internet, the writer admits, "The Internet itself does not contain information. It is a slight misstatement to say a document was found on the Internet." He goes on to say that information is not found on the Internet, but through the Internet. To say one person invented the entire network is like saying that one person invented automobiles. An appropriate response would be, which part, and of which automobile?
The underlying technology that makes the Internet possible is computer networking. Arthur Delcher, Ph.D. defines a network as "A number of computers connected together so they can exchange data," in the Waterfield?s Guide to Computer Terms (page 67). This technology has its earliest roots in the early 1960s when Paul Baran, who then worked for the Rand Corporation, first proposed the idea. He sought to prove that data could be split into blocks, and each block would then find the fastest way to its destination, and following that, the information blocks would re-unite. Donald Watts Davies then implemented the idea in 1967. He coined the term "packet switching," which describes the process Baran proposed. This process continues to drive computer networking today, and Davies? term is still used (McCloud 157). The ideas Baran and Davies worked with were not completely their own, however. They were greatly inspired by a paper by Vannevar Bush wrote in 1945.
In 1913, Vannevar Bush wrote his masters thesis. The thesis included an invention called the Profile Tracer. This invention made measuring distances over uneven ground possible. In 1919, he started work at MIT where he taught and researched until 1932, when he was appointed Dean of the Department of Electrical Engineering. There he worked on optical technologies and a machine for the rapid selection from banks of microfilm (Keep, http://www.iath.virginia.edu/elab/hfl0034.html). He went on to many other important positions, which included the president of the Carnegie Institute in 1939, and a special presidential appointment during World War II. He even invented an early analog computer.
Vannevar Bush has been called "the pivotal figure in hypertext research" (Keep, http://www.iath.virginia.edu/elab/hfl0034.html). In his 1945 paper "As We May Think," he envisioned a world in which all human knowledge might be available in a desk-like device he named a Memex (McCloud, 154). He described
Yeah, if only it were that easy.
Did you take into account RAM, or what about HD space? Monitor resolution? It seems like you forgot the most important part of gaming, the 3d card. So, your little proc based system would be about as useful that code orange, red, green terror alert system.
This is so outlandish, you would need some 4 by X matrix, just list the four main categories. Do you need all 4 levels of each category to play? Would it be OK if it only had three of the four? Last I heard the current recommended/minimum boxes were easier then even simple linear algebra.
Also, I see MS taking advantage of this in a big way. What if the game requires Intel, or NVIDIA? Can it not allow you to play the game unless you upgrade? There?s a good idea, get the hardware dealers to toss in a few mill, let them dictate the standards, so the foxes can tell the hens where and what they need to buy in order to play the game they want.
Look, if this kind of shit is needed in the first place, wouldn't it be here? How hard would setting up a system to keep track of video game patches really be (VersionTracker)? Redoing the recommended/required boxes?
This is MS telling the industry what it needs, and forcing them to use it by incorporating it into the OS. What does this have to do with operating my system?
Most students were ticked because they thought of it as a pin in the rear. Others actually participaterd in the extensive protesting in Olympia over this matter!
Interesting note: rumor has it that a math prof. at my college actually came up with the formula that changed a SSN into a random number. If it's a formula, then it might also be crackable!
What legal action may the students and faculty take? In Washington it is illegal to use a students SSN to identify students. There was groaning at every campus in Washington for weeks. I bet there as glad as me that Washington was so on top of this.
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"Malicious hackers are starting to circulate computer code that exploits recently found vulnerabilities"
Starting? When was this article written 1993?
You have no clue as to how a record label operates. So, I will work it out for you.
1.) Label pays music group for exclusive rights to record, produce, manufacture, and distribute the group's music, for a set number of records (usually they sign someone else to do the distro).
2.) The band is paid by the label to come up with songs, then the LABEL PAYS for the recording.
3.) They then pay for the produvtion, manufacturing, design and whatever else of the record. Sometimes they screw the band royally and make the group pay for expensive videos etc.
Do you get the point yet? Where is Apple Computer Corp. in any of this? In fact, your "iTMS exclusive" - example only highlights the diffferences between the two Apples.
Note that Apple must get rights FROM A RECORD LABEL to work this out. IF THEY WERE A LABEL - they would be working things out with the artists, producers, etc. Getting a label to agree to exclusive tracks is something a record store might do though, right?
The current state of our court system might not look at common sense (different rulings on same issues - on same day, making a man take down his american flag) but to the rest of us, this IS a frivolous lawsuit.
Your little pro-Immigration rant was nice, but it should have been modded off topic. The topic here is that the US does nothing to protect it's workers, while India does. This is unfair.
The US needs to do something about this. I don't mind jobs moving to other countries, I also don't mind people from other countries coming here. I do mind countries taking advantage of our near-open borders, while not extending the same openess to us.
True, but it could also be a prelude to a millitary attack; a modern day pre-strike, information barrage.
Does it work on pre-human skulls? It would be great to see this work on EVE. It might be more accurate then the "artist's renditions."
1.) The Videos were stupid. One had some guy babble on about how the GBA sucks, sporting a stupid orange shirt, and stupid facial hair. The other showed more crap, less screenshots.
2.) The site was soooo dumb. Saving features so people have to come back for them when they are released? How many times did you click on the other features untill you realized they were not active? Where are the screenshots? Game info?
3.) $299
Now that Google, and AOL are providing Blog service, it looks like the once underground-communications medium is now mainstream.
Will this now-hip medium be so co-opted that it will lose it's apeal?
Time to see if this fledgling medium has what it takes to join the ranks of eMail, or go the way of micro-payments.
Shit, Im Fucked! There goes the Nobel! I guess I can take the Bust of myself next to Sagan off the shelf too!
Damn! Finally somebody agrees with me! I have been modded down for claiming Xbox is just a PC without the ability to upgrade stuff. You just earned a fan, im doing it right now.
This "console," doesn't stand a chance in the US. Maybe in Korea where the broadband reach is bigger, but not here. The Xbox will someday look like this, and maybe even the PS2, but I hope there will always be a market for a real, hard-drive-less, game console out there. After dealing with PCs all day at work, I love to fire-up a toy (GameCube) at home.
I guess I wouldn't mind playing Zelda, Metroid, Sunshine, Madden, or FIFA online though.
Yeah, um just like the Romans, right? They were really good at documenting their losses, and they never once decreed that somethign be stricken from the records....
I should not be, but I am suprised by your complete lack of tact/information in this matter. Science is full of crap (it always has been), your "world is flat," comment should prove that. Though I subscribe to almost all modern scientific theories, I am not suprised when any of them are turned completly on their heads.
As far as the biblical stuff goes, the same applies. The difference between me and you would be: I have not decided that I alone possess all the answers. You assumably have.
You should go back and read/watch Sagan's Contact for a nerdy/lack-of-attention-span forray into this stuff.
Yikes! Have you ever seen the directors cut? Sure it WAS eye-candy, but the story and the acting weren't bad either. Watch the directors cut, then watch the Matrix. Laugh out loud as Reaves delivers a laughable performance, then ask yourself which film is better... I can see why your would think such a thing having NOT watched the film as it was meant to be watched. Really you should check it out. Jeez, I think /. it the only place where people could agree that the matrix was better the Blade Runner Directors Cut.
You guys should go read Neuromancer and SnowCrash, might remind you thatThe Matrix was revolutionary, only in visuals.
Nothing as revolutionary as what that guy is saying, but what does it take to create your own distro?
By distro, I mean mini-distro (or sub-distro) of course. How hard is it to take your favorite distro (or a base kernel) and throw out all the crap you don't want, then burn an ISO?
Are there any resources for this type of project? What about services that will let you pick and choose exactly what you want, and nothing you don't want. Then, they (it) send you your custom distro, solving all the dependency issues and stuff. Is there anything like this?
Some examples would be...
I would love a disk that just had enough to set up a minimal file server, or a web server. A filtering bridge would be cool as well. What about a My/PostgreSQL server?
Remember, convenience is great for noobs and wizards alike.
Have you read much early american history (post civil war-ww2)?
Unenforced libertarian economics does not work. It's proven history. People, unless checked by the group will only do what helps themselves.
BTW: it's nice to hear someone with your point of view not sound like a complete prick. I have had many discussions with people with hands-off economic ideas, most of them don't realize how easy they have it as white males.
Even better is iTunes new built in sharing features. They do not however work with the pay-for format. When you enable it, it displays a warning: Sharing is for personal use only.
The store is also down already 504 error.
Also, 1-Click shopping is available, did they pay Amazon for this?
93(90,91?)%
This stat is misleading. There are so many different versions of flash that it doesn't matter how many browsers have it installed. They diddn't start auto-upgrading until quite recently. Even that doesn't work on some browser+flash+OS combos.
So, I could have it installed, but still not be able to view some sites. Here are two examples of sites that used all flash designs, that were made with the newest version of flash, which didn't work with my browser+OS combo.
www.crashshop.com
www.marshillchurch.com
That said, it is still great some things, just use common sense. Replacing the traditional gif+jpeg space in your site with flash is fine by me, and it doesn't mess with your data.
Did I really need Flash 6.* to view the text+links about Clair Danes?
p.s. Also, flash is inhearently anti web. It does not conform to any W3C standards or anything.
I never cared for all these futuristic predictions.
No kidding, i mean, do they pass out a degree in Futuristics?
So how do you propose we make a handheld with a 17" display?
Well, what if the 17" display was incorporated into a PPC docking station? If my PPC had a laptop HD either built in, or a secondary HD it could access when plugged into my monitor (with a built in USB hub), I would never need my win-desktop (for work that is).
For road use, you make a good point. When traveling, something better then the dinky screen on my PPC would be a must for some.
I think the screen issue along with the data entry issue are the two last hurdles to clear for these little machines to start replacing the clunks at work (more for home use: gaming?). Although, who has a 17" laptop screen? The lucky few who have them don't seem to mind lugging around those, do they?
Remember, PPC or CE can be made to run on any sized machine, you seem to be thinking that size of OS and machine size are related. :)
It's nice to see the original image in this case. The color-enhanced added ones look pretty, and contribute to further exploration funding, but are often misleading.
So does this mean that I have to now pay a per-minute charge for telemarketers? Who is liable for all the lost minutes that will accumulate? Also, does this mean text messaging will get even more spam filled? It seams that with this, marketing will actually cost consumers, I hope this isn't just the first in a long line of consumer-paid-for advertising. Also, I expect a lawsuit over this, once it's too late.
Yeah, your right, as you can tell from the monoparagraph (forgot to preview, should have noticed html was on), I didn't read my post until after I sent it in. I am a little upset about the war thing; I kind of took it out on whatever I commented on today.
/. Wonder if they have a -3 mod on all posts containing admissions of incorrectness?
I still don?t think the XBOX is really a traditional console though, its large size, and almost off the shelf PC hardware really turns me off.
I don't think I have ever seen anyone admit to being wrong on
"gimpy media: cartridges, mini-DVDs, instead of CDs and regular DVDs." The N64 carts= no load times. Maybe they just look after players more then developer? "X-Box has also struggled with developers, but they clearly had (and still has) the best engine behind the games" Best engine? Excuse me but have you seen the textures on the GameCube??? Games that can use them, like Tony Hawk and any sports game look way better on GameCube then any other platform. Also, proc speed has almost nothing to do with these games anymore. Nintendo knew that, Sony knew that, the only one who didn?t know that is MS. Also, who do you assume is winning? Nintendo is doing just fine producing the best console games on the market, and only allowing other high quality developers develop games for their console. My main issue with XBOX, which I have played quite a bit, is the hard drive. As soon as you add a hard drive (the most unstable element of any computer) you no longer have a console, you now have a computer. Now that the XBOX is just a computer, why can't I plug in my PC controllers? Why cant I play PC games? Why can't I upgrade my machine? The XBOX possesses all he negative aspects of a PC (too many parts, instability) and all of the negative aspects of consoles (closed system, incompatibility, can't upgrade). To me the choice has always been PS2 or GC. To choose the XBOX would be choosing the worst of both worlds.
Internet History: It Took a Network of Individuals to Invent a Network of Networks
"Apparently when taking a bath, he (Archimedes) discovered the buoyancy principle and jumped up and ran through the streets naked shouting 'Eureka' which means - I have found it." (Russell, http://math.about.com/library/blbioarchimedes.htm)
Some discoveries might be the result of one well-prepared mind in the right place at the right time, but the Internet is not one of them. There are many misconceptions about who invented the Internet and many more about what the Internet actually is. Some think that Al Gore might have invented the Internet due to a statement he made during his ill-fated 2000 presidential election. Some say that Vannevar Bush invented the Internet in his paper "As We May Think". Though Tim Berners-Lee is credited with the invention of the World Wide Web, and Larry Roberts is considered the Father of the Internet, the technologies that make up the network of networks, or the Internet, were invented inductively, layer-by-layer, and over time by many different individuals.
The spectrum of technologies that make up the Internet is too broad for an individual to create on their sole intellect. The Internet is a network of networks connecting computers together using one method called TCP/IP. Each of the connected computers uses software to share information, access information, or both. The software that shares information is called a server. One of the many software programs available to access information is a browser. According to a University of California Berkley tutorial on finding information on the Internet, the writer admits, "The Internet itself does not contain information. It is a slight misstatement to say a document was found on the Internet." He goes on to say that information is not found on the Internet, but through the Internet. To say one person invented the entire network is like saying that one person invented automobiles. An appropriate response would be, which part, and of which automobile?
The underlying technology that makes the Internet possible is computer networking. Arthur Delcher, Ph.D. defines a network as "A number of computers connected together so they can exchange data," in the Waterfield?s Guide to Computer Terms (page 67). This technology has its earliest roots in the early 1960s when Paul Baran, who then worked for the Rand Corporation, first proposed the idea. He sought to prove that data could be split into blocks, and each block would then find the fastest way to its destination, and following that, the information blocks would re-unite. Donald Watts Davies then implemented the idea in 1967. He coined the term "packet switching," which describes the process Baran proposed. This process continues to drive computer networking today, and Davies? term is still used (McCloud 157). The ideas Baran and Davies worked with were not completely their own, however. They were greatly inspired by a paper by Vannevar Bush wrote in 1945.
In 1913, Vannevar Bush wrote his masters thesis. The thesis included an invention called the Profile Tracer. This invention made measuring distances over uneven ground possible. In 1919, he started work at MIT where he taught and researched until 1932, when he was appointed Dean of the Department of Electrical Engineering. There he worked on optical technologies and a machine for the rapid selection from banks of microfilm (Keep, http://www.iath.virginia.edu/elab/hfl0034.html). He went on to many other important positions, which included the president of the Carnegie Institute in 1939, and a special presidential appointment during World War II. He even invented an early analog computer.
Vannevar Bush has been called "the pivotal figure in hypertext research" (Keep, http://www.iath.virginia.edu/elab/hfl0034.html). In his 1945 paper "As We May Think," he envisioned a world in which all human knowledge might be available in a desk-like device he named a Memex (McCloud, 154). He described
Yeah, if only it were that easy. Did you take into account RAM, or what about HD space? Monitor resolution? It seems like you forgot the most important part of gaming, the 3d card. So, your little proc based system would be about as useful that code orange, red, green terror alert system. This is so outlandish, you would need some 4 by X matrix, just list the four main categories. Do you need all 4 levels of each category to play? Would it be OK if it only had three of the four? Last I heard the current recommended/minimum boxes were easier then even simple linear algebra. Also, I see MS taking advantage of this in a big way. What if the game requires Intel, or NVIDIA? Can it not allow you to play the game unless you upgrade? There?s a good idea, get the hardware dealers to toss in a few mill, let them dictate the standards, so the foxes can tell the hens where and what they need to buy in order to play the game they want. Look, if this kind of shit is needed in the first place, wouldn't it be here? How hard would setting up a system to keep track of video game patches really be (VersionTracker)? Redoing the recommended/required boxes? This is MS telling the industry what it needs, and forcing them to use it by incorporating it into the OS. What does this have to do with operating my system?
Most students were ticked because they thought of it as a pin in the rear. Others actually participaterd in the extensive protesting in Olympia over this matter!
Interesting note: rumor has it that a math prof. at my college actually came up with the formula that changed a SSN into a random number. If it's a formula, then it might also be crackable!
What legal action may the students and faculty take? In Washington it is illegal to use a students SSN to identify students. There was groaning at every campus in Washington for weeks. I bet there as glad as me that Washington was so on top of this.