If you took the time to look at them you would have seen that they are in fact technical articles describing the how and why. Its not marketing drivel nor self-congratulating.
Until then, I guess we have to believe it's innovative because you said so.
Thanks. You just made my afternoon.
I often wonder about the slashdot mentality that anything not Linux is evil.
Hmm. This just might become my next.sig
As it's been said ad nauseum here by myself and others, Microsoft isn't about innovation...haven't been for a while...in fact, whether they ever were is a subject for debate.
I disagree. Microsoft does innovate all the time. Most people just can't seem to remove their blinders to see it. The.NET framework is an innovation wether you like it or not. The core concepts aren't innovative.. VM, class library, garbage collection, etc. Even C# is just a offshoot of C and C++. But there are elements all through the CLR and >NET that are innovative. Windows Presentation Foundation (Avalon), Windows Communication Foundation (Indigo), are truely innovative. If you don't believe this then you really haven't looked into it and are probably relying on sound bites from someone else.
Visual Studio is a great IDE with new small innovations with each successive release.
Microsoft does take a lot of exisiting technologies and enhances the core concepts into something that works and is used by millions of developers and makes life easy for us. You may not call that an innovation but I do. Hindsight makes lots of things look easy once someone else has done it first.
Sure they make some mistakes along the way. No one is perfect but AFAIAC, their successes out weigh their failures. Microsoft tools and software has made my life easier as both a developer and as a user.
Disclaimer: I am a software architect and I now develop for the Windows market. I also worked with Linux for over two years at Borland on Kylix. So I feel my comments reflects a balanced position.
Microsoft has done alot in regards to security in the past few years. Things dont change overnight but Vista is a place where they can do things right.
They do understand where they had a problem before and everything they write now has a security model and they are very conscious of it.
You can be a naysayer all you want but that still wont change the fact that security is a top concern with all groups in Microsoft now.
Excuse me? The blink tag can alter files on your hard disk? I'm not sure where the analogy fits...
Excuse me!?!?
Who said anything about altering files on a hard disk. You should probably get a clue before you start posting. If you knew anything about Vista you would know it is not possible to do that based on the security model.
I know it might be hard to resist the temptation to base at Microsoft at any oportunity but do us all a favor and become educated before spouting off the latest drivel.
Oh trust me. I know alot about UI design. In fact I am considered an expert. I have a very good eye for it.
In my previous comment I wasn't referring to just "fancy graphics". But I guess most people jump to that conclusion and its probably why most apps I see have crappy UI.
I am currently at the Microsoft PDC and I saw the product demoed.
This is a good thing and its tru the possiblity for abuse is great but the same thing can be said for the blink tag, marquees and fonts in the early days of the web.
The demo apps created for Vista are amazing. The power is now gives to user interface designers is (dare I say it again) amazing.
I watched a microsoft dev code up an application during a one hour session that took a basic UI and then refined it through out his session with XAML.
It was an eye opening experience.
Say what you want about Microsoft... say what you want about the Apple OS X vs Microsoft Vista. But I have seen it working. This is revolutionary for us developers. With very little code we are going to be able to create gorgeous applications with a terrific user experience.
Sure some people will go over board...some always seem to do this during a transitional period. But the best apps and UI will surface.
I am looking forward to the next few years and the new types of applications we will have.
Godfather: Hey Guido
Guido: uh yeah, boss?
Godfather: Prostitution is down, the bookies aren't bringing in the cut. RIAA is doing okay for us and MPAA is coming on board. Gambling is about even and starting to take off because of this internet thingy.
Guido: Sure boss.
Godfather: We need to expand.
Guido: Lets take over ICANN. There are hundreds of websites.
Godfather: More like millions.
Guido: uh right, so lets make up a new domain..um...mob And make everyone reregister all over again.
Godfather: That might work. I'm glad I didn't have you whacked after the McClonsky debacle.
Guido: um thanks boss. You want me to have someone picup our cut from the RIAA now while I go drop a couple of ICANN fish in the sea?
Godfather: Go ahead. I think you deserve the reward.
I tihnk taht seplnilg rellay deosnt matetr at all. For exmalpe, I bet taht you can raed tihs precfcetly fnie.
I bieelve it was proevn that as lnog as the frist and lsat lettres do not chnage, our brians can aoutomtacalily rearragne tehm and we have full comhenpresion.
I cnnaot fnid the lnik rgiht now but I am srue taht tihs was psoted on salhsodt a few mnoths ago.
For the record, I bought my copy of Just a Geek at the Barnes and Nobel in the Grove on 3rd and Fairfax. So they carried at least one copy. And it was in the computer section and not at all near any Star Trek books.
I really enjoyed the book and its stories. Probably doesn't make up for how it was marketted but the work you put into it was (at least for me) well worth it.
Slashdot Mirror
"Everybody I've ever meet in person who was a "fan" of Microsoft turned out to owe their living to Microsoft in one way or another."
..um 90% of all software developers?
Um.. Like
Anyone have a link for the live feed?
Hear Hear!
How cheap do you need ram to be? I just bought a 4GB flash drive (SanDisk) for $109 USD last week.
You really should watch each episode in order. Excellent writing and very unlike most shows on tv.
Second season is scheduled for mar 2006.
If you took the time to look at them you would have seen that they are in fact technical articles describing the how and why. Its not marketing drivel nor self-congratulating.
.sig
Until then, I guess we have to believe it's innovative because you said so.
Thanks. You just made my afternoon.
I often wonder about the slashdot mentality that anything not Linux is evil.
Hmm. This just might become my next
Based on that argument then Microsoft is innovating all the time!
I was going to write up an answer but I decided I'll jus post a bunch of links to help you with your study and enlightenment.
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As it's been said ad nauseum here by myself and others, Microsoft isn't about innovation...haven't been for a while...in fact, whether they ever were is a subject for debate.
.NET framework is an innovation wether you like it or not. The core concepts aren't innovative.. VM, class library, garbage collection, etc. Even C# is just a offshoot of C and C++. But there are elements all through the CLR and >NET that are innovative. Windows Presentation Foundation (Avalon), Windows Communication Foundation (Indigo), are truely innovative. If you don't believe this then you really haven't looked into it and are probably relying on sound bites from someone else.
I disagree. Microsoft does innovate all the time. Most people just can't seem to remove their blinders to see it. The
Visual Studio is a great IDE with new small innovations with each successive release.
Microsoft does take a lot of exisiting technologies and enhances the core concepts into something that works and is used by millions of developers and makes life easy for us. You may not call that an innovation but I do. Hindsight makes lots of things look easy once someone else has done it first.
Sure they make some mistakes along the way. No one is perfect but AFAIAC, their successes out weigh their failures. Microsoft tools and software has made my life easier as both a developer and as a user.
Disclaimer: I am a software architect and I now develop for the Windows market. I also worked with Linux for over two years at Borland on Kylix. So I feel my comments reflects a balanced position.
Microsoft has done alot in regards to security in the past few years. Things dont change overnight but Vista is a place where they can do things right.
They do understand where they had a problem before and everything they write now has a security model and they are very conscious of it.
You can be a naysayer all you want but that still wont change the fact that security is a top concern with all groups in Microsoft now.
Excuse me? The blink tag can alter files on your hard disk? I'm not sure where the analogy fits...
Excuse me!?!?
Who said anything about altering files on a hard disk. You should probably get a clue before you start posting. If you knew anything about Vista you would know it is not possible to do that based on the security model.
I know it might be hard to resist the temptation to base at Microsoft at any oportunity but do us all a favor and become educated before spouting off the latest drivel.
Oh trust me. I know alot about UI design. In fact I am considered an expert. I have a very good eye for it.
In my previous comment I wasn't referring to just "fancy graphics". But I guess most people jump to that conclusion and its probably why most apps I see have crappy UI.
I am currently at the Microsoft PDC and I saw the product demoed.
This is a good thing and its tru the possiblity for abuse is great but the same thing can be said for the blink tag, marquees and fonts in the early days of the web.
The demo apps created for Vista are amazing. The power is now gives to user interface designers is (dare I say it again) amazing.
I watched a microsoft dev code up an application during a one hour session that took a basic UI and then refined it through out his session with XAML.
It was an eye opening experience.
Say what you want about Microsoft... say what you want about the Apple OS X vs Microsoft Vista. But I have seen it working. This is revolutionary for us developers. With very little code we are going to be able to create gorgeous applications with a terrific user experience.
Sure some people will go over board...some always seem to do this during a transitional period. But the best apps and UI will surface.
I am looking forward to the next few years and the new types of applications we will have.
If you hop in to the wayback machine they did the same thing to Borland, hiring all their top people just to put them out to pasture.
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You mean people like Paul Gross and Anders Hejlsberg? Seriously, what have they done lately?
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1478523,00.a
So, they sue people that spend more money on music than the average.
So these people stop spending in order to cover court costs, fees, pissed off, etc.
RIAA notices that less people are spending money on music (it must be the filesharers) so they sue more people.
1. Does it have a reference to a robot? CHECK
2. Does it have a reference to space exploration? CHECK
3. Does it reference Star Trek or Battlestar Galactica or will readers post about such references? CHECK
4. Does it have a reference to a penguin? CHECK
5. Does it bash Microsoft? PROBABLY
6. Is it a dupe? WHO CARES?
STATUS: PASSED.
Submit as Slashdot story.
...the 18-year-old Moroccan authorities...
GAWD! I must be getting old cause I can remember when "authorities" used to be older than 18.
Want to write a time travel game. Or maybe I already did.
I did that already. QA gave me a list of bugs before I even started so I decided to not go ahead with it since it seemed like too much work.
-- Robert
Godfather: Hey Guido
Guido: uh yeah, boss?
Godfather: Prostitution is down, the bookies aren't bringing in the cut. RIAA is doing okay for us and MPAA is coming on board. Gambling is about even and starting to take off because of this internet thingy.
Guido: Sure boss.
Godfather: We need to expand.
Guido: Lets take over ICANN. There are hundreds of websites.
Godfather: More like millions.
Guido: uh right, so lets make up a new domain..um..
Godfather: That might work. I'm glad I didn't have you whacked after the McClonsky debacle.
Guido: um thanks boss. You want me to have someone picup our cut from the RIAA now while I go drop a couple of ICANN fish in the sea?
Godfather: Go ahead. I think you deserve the reward.
Vi or emacs
Windows or Linux
Replublican or Democrat
Development or Systems
Apache or IIS
Apple or Intel
Oh wait.... geeze...
Those who were effectively smapped, as a group, saw their mean body mass index (BMI) go down, meaning it improved.
What in the hell is smapped? Is it a statistical term?
I tihnk taht seplnilg rellay deosnt matetr at all. For exmalpe, I bet taht you can raed tihs precfcetly fnie.
I bieelve it was proevn that as lnog as the frist and lsat lettres do not chnage, our brians can aoutomtacalily rearragne tehm and we have full comhenpresion.
I cnnaot fnid the lnik rgiht now but I am srue taht tihs was psoted on salhsodt a few mnoths ago.
You are terribly confused as to what .NET is.
I was tempted to write more but I really don't feel like feeding the troll that you are.
Wil,
For the record, I bought my copy of Just a Geek at the Barnes and Nobel in the Grove on 3rd and Fairfax. So they carried at least one copy. And it was in the computer section and not at all near any Star Trek books.
I really enjoyed the book and its stories. Probably doesn't make up for how it was marketted but the work you put into it was (at least for me) well worth it.
Just like the movie 2001.
Good idea because we all know how well that turned out.