Never ceases to amaze me how trolls will seize on anything to bash the US. So the Roman Empire collapsed under the weight of its own arrogance? Or maybe you just predict that the US will? Pray tell, learned troll.
Typical Army blunder. Look at the Bradley fiasco. Meanwhile the Marine Corps LAVs (what the Army got inspired by) run happily and reliably at almost 20 years of service life so far.
I know you're probably not interested and I can't blame you but look into getting you Microsoft Certified Sysstems Administrator cert instead of recerting on your Cisco. Makes you more well rounded and it's 4 easy tests. Plus you already know what you're doing w/ Cisco products and your experience will count.
Also, don't you mean you got a 900 on the CCNA? Not a 90:)
Fine, we won't get you started on the US and creationism since you don't know shit about the US except what you read. There's plenty of educated people here as well but like any good keyboard revolutionary you only choose to believe what you choose to read. I was agreeing with you (first time) on the religion argument but to label the US like that is bullshit.
Let me enlighten you... We have EVERYTHING in the US. It really is a melting pot. Sure we have right wing creationist idiots. We also have the ACLU. We have Muslims, Jews, you name it. I serve with both in the military. I grew up on a 34,000 acre cattle ranch in Wyoming and I serve with guys who grew up in an apartment in New York City.
Typecasting the US like that is about like me labeling all of Europe Neo Nazis because of Europe's recent problem with those assholes.
Just before Christmas last year, Novell announced publicly that SCO had known for some time that it did not receive all rights and ownership to UNIX technologies, despite public statements to the contrary. Novell has made public correspondence between lawyers representing both Novell and SCO. Read these in their entirety - they are quite enlightening.
These letters finally start getting to the heart of the mysterious "Amendment No. 2" which SCO referred to publicly in a press release dated June 6, claiming it transferred "everything" to them and which Novell claimed never existed - Novell's legal team is adamant that no copy ever existed in their files. Bruce Lowry, director of public relations at Novell told me today, "We've acknowledged publicly that Amendment 2 is valid, although we have not said we agree with SCO's interpretation of Amendment 2. As we said on December 22, we believe we've retained the ownership of UNIX copyrights and have registered those with the US Copyright Office."
In two letters sent to Darl McBride, president and CEO of SCO, dated June 26 and August 4, 2003, Joseph A. LaSala, Novell's general counsel specifically refutes recent claims by SCO regarding transfer and ownership of "all rights to the UNIX and UnixWare technology" as announced in the June 6 press release.
On June 26, LaSala wrote: "SCO's statements are simply wrong. We acknowledge, as noted in our June 6 public statement, that Amendment No. 2 to the Asset Purchase Agreement appears to support a claim that Santa Cruz Operation had the right to acquire some copyrights from Novell. Upon closer scrutiny, however, Amendment No. 2 raises as many questions about copyright transfers as it answers. Indeed, what is most certainly not the case is that "any question of whether UNIX copyrights were transferred to SCO as part of the Asset Purchase Agreement was clarified in Amendment No. 2 (as SCO stated in its June 6 press release). And there is no indication whatsoever that SCO owns all the patents associated with UNIX or UnixWare."
Clearly, this is saying that although SCO received the software, it did not get the full suite of patents and copyrights pertaining to UNIX. A second letter, on August 4, also written by LaSala, seeks to clarify the interpretation of Amendment No. 2.
"We dispute SCO's claim to ownership of these copyrights. The asset Purchase Agreement, in Schedule 1.1(b), contains a general exclusion of copyrights from the assets transferred to Santa Cruz Operation. Amendment No. 2 provides an exception to that exclusion, but only for 'copyrights... required for [Santa Cruz Operation] to exercise its rights with respect to the acquisition of UNIX and UnixWare technologies.
"In other words, under the Asset Purchase Agreement and Amendment No. 2, copyrights were not transferred to Santa Cruz Operation unless SCO could demonstrate that such a right was 'required for [Santa Cruz Operation]' to exercise the rights granted to it in the APA. Santa Cruz Operation has never made such a demonstration, and we certainly see no reason why Santa Cruz Operation would have needed ownership of copyrights in UNIX System V in order to exercise the limited rights granted SCO under the APA. Nor is there any reason to think that a transfer of the copyrights required for SCO to exercise its APA rights necessarily entails transfer of the entire set of rights associated with a particular copyrighted computer program."
Now, LaSala is telling SCO that not only are there very few reasons for gaining some of the copyrights in UNIX, they have never even used those reasons to ask for them! Novell is being very specific here - it is quoting clauses and giving reasonable interpretations. On September 10, Ryan Tibbitts, SCO's general counsel replied, essentially disagreeing with LaSal
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and where do you live?
I'd just like to keep my modem from reporting to the ISP whenever I go over the 1GB a day limit. ANy thoughts on that?
Insert obligatory smartass comment about how they should be running their site on one of those high-end chips right now.
Um, maybe because they can't remember them verbatim and didn't think to bring a tape recorder?
Nice answers to my questions.. So what makes me an arrogant sod?
Nicely put. I'd mod you up if I could.
I'll never understand the British legal system after reading about Tony Martin
Never ceases to amaze me how trolls will seize on anything to bash the US. So the Roman Empire collapsed under the weight of its own arrogance? Or maybe you just predict that the US will? Pray tell, learned troll.
Too bad the Army can't learn from the Marine Corps LAV. Reliable, fast, and battle proven. And bought off the shelf.
Typical Army blunder. Look at the Bradley fiasco. Meanwhile the Marine Corps LAVs (what the Army got inspired by) run happily and reliably at almost 20 years of service life so far.
This isn't the first time this guy has been caught posting false info. You ought to hear the shit he spouts about the US.
I didn't say shit about an MCSE paper mill and you know it. I made a suggestion to help the guy get hired, you jumped on it to talk shit.
You just said what I was TRYING to say... Nicely put.
I know you're probably not interested and I can't blame you but look into getting you Microsoft Certified Sysstems Administrator cert instead of recerting on your Cisco. Makes you more well rounded and it's 4 easy tests. Plus you already know what you're doing w/ Cisco products and your experience will count. :)
Also, don't you mean you got a 900 on the CCNA? Not a 90
The best part was where he modeled the Lightspeed briefs while doing a prsentation complete w/ pointer and board in the bedroom to some chick
What do you mean by "false economy?"
Didn't his father accuse chestnuts of being lazy?
Yeah, those damned Americans are to blame for ALL of the lesser country's problems.
Free? Are you going to take care of the licensing issues?
Take a look at this for an alternative to Goldmine.
Try this
Mandrake and Fedora.
Got any clickable info on the Republicans doing that? I couldn't find any.
Fine, we won't get you started on the US and creationism since you don't know shit about the US except what you read. There's plenty of educated people here as well but like any good keyboard revolutionary you only choose to believe what you choose to read. I was agreeing with you (first time) on the religion argument but to label the US like that is bullshit.
Let me enlighten you... We have EVERYTHING in the US. It really is a melting pot. Sure we have right wing creationist idiots. We also have the ACLU. We have Muslims, Jews, you name it. I serve with both in the military. I grew up on a 34,000 acre cattle ranch in Wyoming and I serve with guys who grew up in an apartment in New York City.
Typecasting the US like that is about like me labeling all of Europe Neo Nazis because of Europe's recent problem with those assholes.
Easier to read than to click on...
... required for [Santa Cruz Operation] to exercise its rights with respect to the acquisition of UNIX and UnixWare technologies.
Did SCO actually buy what it thought it bought?
By David Heath
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Just before Christmas last year, Novell announced publicly that SCO had known for some time that it did not receive all rights and ownership to UNIX technologies, despite public statements to the contrary. Novell has made public correspondence between lawyers representing both Novell and SCO. Read these in their entirety - they are quite enlightening.
These letters finally start getting to the heart of the mysterious "Amendment No. 2" which SCO referred to publicly in a press release dated June 6, claiming it transferred "everything" to them and which Novell claimed never existed - Novell's legal team is adamant that no copy ever existed in their files. Bruce Lowry, director of public relations at Novell told me today, "We've acknowledged publicly that Amendment 2 is valid, although we have not said we agree with SCO's interpretation of Amendment 2. As we said on December 22, we believe we've retained the ownership of UNIX copyrights and have registered those with the US Copyright Office."
In two letters sent to Darl McBride, president and CEO of SCO, dated June 26 and August 4, 2003, Joseph A. LaSala, Novell's general counsel specifically refutes recent claims by SCO regarding transfer and ownership of "all rights to the UNIX and UnixWare technology" as announced in the June 6 press release.
On June 26, LaSala wrote: "SCO's statements are simply wrong. We acknowledge, as noted in our June 6 public statement, that Amendment No. 2 to the Asset Purchase Agreement appears to support a claim that Santa Cruz Operation had the right to acquire some copyrights from Novell. Upon closer scrutiny, however, Amendment No. 2 raises as many questions about copyright transfers as it answers. Indeed, what is most certainly not the case is that "any question of whether UNIX copyrights were transferred to SCO as part of the Asset Purchase Agreement was clarified in Amendment No. 2 (as SCO stated in its June 6 press release). And there is no indication whatsoever that SCO owns all the patents associated with UNIX or UnixWare."
Clearly, this is saying that although SCO received the software, it did not get the full suite of patents and copyrights pertaining to UNIX. A second letter, on August 4, also written by LaSala, seeks to clarify the interpretation of Amendment No. 2.
"We dispute SCO's claim to ownership of these copyrights. The asset Purchase Agreement, in Schedule 1.1(b), contains a general exclusion of copyrights from the assets transferred to Santa Cruz Operation. Amendment No. 2 provides an exception to that exclusion, but only for 'copyrights
"In other words, under the Asset Purchase Agreement and Amendment No. 2, copyrights were not transferred to Santa Cruz Operation unless SCO could demonstrate that such a right was 'required for [Santa Cruz Operation]' to exercise the rights granted to it in the APA. Santa Cruz Operation has never made such a demonstration, and we certainly see no reason why Santa Cruz Operation would have needed ownership of copyrights in UNIX System V in order to exercise the limited rights granted SCO under the APA. Nor is there any reason to think that a transfer of the copyrights required for SCO to exercise its APA rights necessarily entails transfer of the entire set of rights associated with a particular copyrighted computer program."
Now, LaSala is telling SCO that not only are there very few reasons for gaining some of the copyrights in UNIX, they have never even used those reasons to ask for them! Novell is being very specific here - it is quoting clauses and giving reasonable interpretations. On September 10, Ryan Tibbitts, SCO's general counsel replied, essentially disagreeing with LaSal