Actually Grym is right on this one. Grym knows that I am far left of center and even I can see the mess that this was. Why didn't they arrest Koresh in town when they had the chance? Why not wait them out? Why not put a 20mm round through their water supply and wait for them to run out of water? Truth of the matter is that there are about a million things that could have been done, but the whole thing was run by a bunch of yahoos who were given too many guns and too little supervision. As one poster stated -
the Branch Davidians murdered 4 law enforcement officers and wounded 20 others. You call this "resisting", but I'm more of an old-fashioned kind of a guy; I say we call murder "murder."
I say that if you show up in the middle of no where and drop a poorly marked assault force with no real plan other than "rush" and no back up or contingency plan of any sort you are asking for trouble. The man that ordered that mess should be sitting in prison.Besides anyone knows why the cops who outnumber a lone gunman 20:1 dont rush in, or sniper him immedialty - it is amuch about the safty of the man on the inside as the cops on the outside.
I have actually seen the "proof" tapes that still circulate the far right about what "really" went down that day - and I got to say there are some odd bits that could use some better explaination.
No one is "forced" to join a Union. What you may be referring to (though I doubt it) is "Fair Share". Fair Share is a due that you pay, even if you do not belong to the Union, to work in a Union shop. What it basically is about is that if the Union members go to all the trouble to organize, and bargain as a group - so that they can limit the abuse to workers and gain higher wages - that you as a worker in that shop should help out in the expense. You are literally paying Fair Share so that you can get higher wages. The Union protects you in many other ways (Dismiss w/o cause etc. ) that you also pay for without realizing it.
Walmart as an employer blows major chow, even with the Union representation in the few stores that have managed to get it in.
As far as politics go the Dems are much more Labor (and by that I mean anyone who punches a clock) friendly then the Repubs. That is the traditional Dem base in part - their was a day when union busting would get you killed. Now-a-days it is business as usual.
I guess my thought on this is that though you may be a fantastic (fill in the blank here) there comes a day when you can still do your job, but are no longer the 'Flavor-of-the-Month'. Then what do you do? Truth be told I can always find 2 people younger than you willing to work at.25 of your wage that can do the same job. Always. But ther is the rub...they *cant* do the same job, but for half your price - I can try,and will do so, despite that in the long run it will cost me money. And I as a corperation will live with results..because corp profit is what matters...not substance, and (surprise) it is the young guys running it that run the stats about how much much money dumping those 'Dinosaurs' is saving them.
And that *IS* WalMart..all profit - - as long as the US consumer can buy tongs for $0.34 per. If you want to get into the cheaper, faster, better race, jump on in, and when in 10 years you start to drown, holler out, I will be waiting on the shore with an anvil slightly lighter than your Corperate Masters.
And while we are at it does someone know of a way to do the same thing with bookmarks in firefox? Some sort of utility to add more organization function to bookmarking?
See, the problem is that you are using their hired consultant's numbers. If I tell you that it will cost you a billion dollars and take you fifteen years to start using my compeditors product I would expect to keep you as a customer. ("Geez Bob, we will never dig ourselves out of that hole!") I would severly doubt that the cost is 3-4 times as expensive for openers. Even if you hire RedHat themselves to help in the conversion, I doubt it would be that much. Also - remember there is no such thing as a "product upgrade cycle for Windows" - you pay out on a regular basis or pay throught he nose for newer versions.
As for the thrre times as long to deploy stuff, every upgrade 3.1->9x->2000->xp has had a year+ learning curve for users/admins as well. Getting them to train in their spare time by running machines side by side, or setting them up for real training - I give it a year before they could start to roll out some services (DHCP, file server, Domain Control)confidently. There are even pop in distros that will do all this for you, clarkconnect comes to mind.
In short these are trash numbers, made to spread FUD and nothing more.
And do they also go as mute and solemn when you descibe the unbelievable terror that a Death Row inmate goes through for weeks leading up to thier execution? Do you also describe the ways in which they are gassed, injected, and until recently shot? Or is one kind of killing good and the other bad?
Cripes, all I see is Newegg and pricewatch pricing - how about a little imagination Yeah it is slightly over a hundred bucks, and yeah the board to drop it on would be more money. But that is because the current production run is small I bet - I have seen a 486/100 (in a single chip) that sells for $19 in bulk. Yup it is slow and it aint got a heck of a lot in terms of memory etc. But, I would be willing to bet the power usage is low - and I will also bet that there is a window manager of somesort that we could get running on it.
These aren't even the only guys out thier doing it either - this is just the first one I googled up. Give these guys a call for a million a year and I will bet for $100/unit they could produce, and the speed would ramp up fairly quickly as well.
Had an ex Boss do this same thing - he got what he deserved (he was a total ass - example - he used a computer at his kids daycare to surf for porn) - they botched his surgery, he is damn near blind to this day. All he could do the week before the trip was crow about how much money he was saving.
Got a good source for that amd64 Debian? I just finished up a new machine this week - oh, and as long as I am asking for the moon, how is SATA support? Any help would be nice.
But one thing that we are ducking here is that it is SETI - now if the computer were running the Cancer screen saver what then? Personally (and I work for the State of MN) I think that all idle state computers should be crunching numbers for the cure to cancer - the cost in bandwidth and energy would be paltry if we could find the cure.
People understand that sometimes it just doesn't make sense to fix a problem on their aging P120 Win95 box when the cost of the repair is 90% of the cost of a complete replacement.
Exactly my point - The chance to fall into these "jobs" is far too easy for the novice - and I think everyone of us has had a similar experience.
1. Find a huricaine.
2. Step outside during the hurricane.
3. Scream.
If that were Hiaku I would vote you Slashdrone of the Century... You are spot on though. You cannot protect people from themselves, - ask any Doctor...:/
In 20 years, Bush will be looked upon as a president who was even more corrupt then Nixon
Thank You for articulating what I have believed. May God Himself bless your every step and every endeavor, may My Lord Jesus Christ find in you a prophet - because you surely are one. Bless You Sir, inverse to how He has cursed the Neo-Cons.
Chances are that the "jobs" you have gooten so far are the "kiss and a check" kind of jobs. They are the kind that after 10 hours of troubleshooting a job - because you couldn't talk the customer out of trying to put Wi-Fi in thier 4 story house and the WAP in the basement, you end up asking for $50 because -well, you didn't realy get the job done. So you walk out with your check, and a kiss for being a sweetheart about the whole thing.
I build computers for people on the side, and it is a fun hobby that makes me a little bit of money to support my Athlon64 habit. I go buy the parts, put it together, drop on your choice of OS, and preinstall the minimum of software so that getting on the net is not a death sentence for your new machine. Before I deliver it, I offer a $10 discount if I can install linux on the machine as a dual boot. I then deliver the machine (or they pick up) and and give them "The Talk" and answer questions (takes about an hour) - in the end I charge $50-100. Now for me this is a hobby, I am just under Dell for total price for the same hardware and I give free tech support for 6 months to boot.
In short - I and people like me are the death of your vision.
There are a lot of us out there and even with great networking you will not beat our niche. And you certainly aren't going to make a living out of it.
What you need to do is look for a real job, get the experience and start to collect a clientelle on the side. Hopefully someone you know will start a real business and need some outside consulting - and then you just may get on the road. Not to be unkind, but there are an awful lot of very good techies scraping the ground for any cash that will come up - dont plan on this buying groceries any time soon.
Somewhere on Slashdot there was notice about a three part series about becoming a consultant - wonderful to read, very honest and inspirational -cant find it though sadly:/
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Maybe it will just play them **REALLY LOUD**!! and then send a cop to your neighbors for infringing their content.
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And hell, I will even let the "technology pioneer" thing go .... yeesh get over yourself
..no discussion would be complete without the ability to draw this stuff -
MLCAD
LDraw
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I did too...then I thought "Aww crap, all this technology just so I can come back to using a party line"
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Actually Grym is right on this one. Grym knows that I am far left of center and even I can see the mess that this was. Why didn't they arrest Koresh in town when they had the chance? Why not wait them out? Why not put a 20mm round through their water supply and wait for them to run out of water? Truth of the matter is that there are about a million things that could have been done, but the whole thing was run by a bunch of yahoos who were given too many guns and too little supervision. As one poster stated - I say that if you show up in the middle of no where and drop a poorly marked assault force with no real plan other than "rush" and no back up or contingency plan of any sort you are asking for trouble. The man that ordered that mess should be sitting in prison.Besides anyone knows why the cops who outnumber a lone gunman 20:1 dont rush in, or sniper him immedialty - it is amuch about the safty of the man on the inside as the cops on the outside.
I have actually seen the "proof" tapes that still circulate the far right about what "really" went down that day - and I got to say there are some odd bits that could use some better explaination.
Sera
Wisdom...such a rare thing, thank you.
No one is "forced" to join a Union. What you may be referring to (though I doubt it) is "Fair Share". Fair Share is a due that you pay, even if you do not belong to the Union, to work in a Union shop. What it basically is about is that if the Union members go to all the trouble to organize, and bargain as a group - so that they can limit the abuse to workers and gain higher wages - that you as a worker in that shop should help out in the expense. You are literally paying Fair Share so that you can get higher wages. The Union protects you in many other ways (Dismiss w/o cause etc. ) that you also pay for without realizing it.
Walmart as an employer blows major chow, even with the Union representation in the few stores that have managed to get it in.
As far as politics go the Dems are much more Labor (and by that I mean anyone who punches a clock) friendly then the Repubs. That is the traditional Dem base in part - their was a day when union busting would get you killed. Now-a-days it is business as usual.
I guess my thought on this is that though you may be a fantastic (fill in the blank here) there comes a day when you can still do your job, but are no longer the 'Flavor-of-the-Month'. Then what do you do? Truth be told I can always find 2 people younger than you willing to work at .25 of your wage that can do the same job. Always. But ther is the rub...they *cant* do the same job, but for half your price - I can try,and will do so, despite that in the long run it will cost me money. And I as a corperation will live with results..because corp profit is what matters...not substance, and (surprise) it is the young guys running it that run the stats about how much much money dumping those 'Dinosaurs' is saving them.
And that *IS* WalMart ..all profit - - as long as the US consumer can buy tongs for $0.34 per. If you want to get into the cheaper, faster, better race, jump on in, and when in 10 years you start to drown, holler out, I will be waiting on the shore with an anvil slightly lighter than your Corperate Masters.
Sera
The Villiage Wok, Campus Villiage, on University next to the Big 10, you are buying.
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And while we are at it does someone know of a way to do the same thing with bookmarks in firefox? Some sort of utility to add more organization function to bookmarking?
Sera
Okay, I'll bite, why?
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Thank you for the first (and most sane) of those damn ipod sigs
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See, the problem is that you are using their hired consultant's numbers. If I tell you that it will cost you a billion dollars and take you fifteen years to start using my compeditors product I would expect to keep you as a customer. ("Geez Bob, we will never dig ourselves out of that hole!") I would severly doubt that the cost is 3-4 times as expensive for openers. Even if you hire RedHat themselves to help in the conversion, I doubt it would be that much. Also - remember there is no such thing as a "product upgrade cycle for Windows" - you pay out on a regular basis or pay throught he nose for newer versions.
As for the thrre times as long to deploy stuff, every upgrade 3.1->9x->2000->xp has had a year+ learning curve for users/admins as well. Getting them to train in their spare time by running machines side by side, or setting them up for real training - I give it a year before they could start to roll out some services (DHCP, file server, Domain Control)confidently. There are even pop in distros that will do all this for you, clarkconnect comes to mind.
In short these are trash numbers, made to spread FUD and nothing more.
Sera
Hmmm...
And do they also go as mute and solemn when you descibe the unbelievable terror that a Death Row inmate goes through for weeks leading up to thier execution? Do you also describe the ways in which they are gassed, injected, and until recently shot? Or is one kind of killing good and the other bad?
Sera
Cripes, all I see is Newegg and pricewatch pricing - how about a little imagination Yeah it is slightly over a hundred bucks, and yeah the board to drop it on would be more money. But that is because the current production run is small I bet - I have seen a 486/100 (in a single chip) that sells for $19 in bulk. Yup it is slow and it aint got a heck of a lot in terms of memory etc. But, I would be willing to bet the power usage is low - and I will also bet that there is a window manager of somesort that we could get running on it.
These aren't even the only guys out thier doing it either - this is just the first one I googled up. Give these guys a call for a million a year and I will bet for $100/unit they could produce, and the speed would ramp up fairly quickly as well.
Sera
The armour on an M1 can stop any sovietesk RPG you toss at it. And damn the cost - our boys deserve less?
Sera
Had an ex Boss do this same thing - he got what he deserved (he was a total ass - example - he used a computer at his kids daycare to surf for porn) - they botched his surgery, he is damn near blind to this day. All he could do the week before the trip was crow about how much money he was saving.
Sera
How about Mini-DVDs/CDs? At 1.4G/210M it might be a worthy addition - would kill the battery but....
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Sera
That this new ape is a Democratic member of congress?
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But one thing that we are ducking here is that it is SETI - now if the computer were running the Cancer screen saver what then? Personally (and I work for the State of MN) I think that all idle state computers should be crunching numbers for the cure to cancer - the cost in bandwidth and energy would be paltry if we could find the cure.
Sera
I bow before your geekiness
Sera
If that were Hiaku I would vote you Slashdrone of the Century ... :/
You are spot on though. You cannot protect people from themselves, - ask any Doctor...
Sera
Thank You for articulating what I have believed. May God Himself bless your every step and every endeavor, may My Lord Jesus Christ find in you a prophet - because you surely are one. Bless You Sir, inverse to how He has cursed the Neo-Cons.
Sera
Chances are that the "jobs" you have gooten so far are the "kiss and a check" kind of jobs. They are the kind that after 10 hours of troubleshooting a job - because you couldn't talk the customer out of trying to put Wi-Fi in thier 4 story house and the WAP in the basement, you end up asking for $50 because -well, you didn't realy get the job done. So you walk out with your check, and a kiss for being a sweetheart about the whole thing.
I build computers for people on the side, and it is a fun hobby that makes me a little bit of money to support my Athlon64 habit. I go buy the parts, put it together, drop on your choice of OS, and preinstall the minimum of software so that getting on the net is not a death sentence for your new machine. Before I deliver it, I offer a $10 discount if I can install linux on the machine as a dual boot. I then deliver the machine (or they pick up) and and give them "The Talk" and answer questions (takes about an hour) - in the end I charge $50-100. Now for me this is a hobby, I am just under Dell for total price for the same hardware and I give free tech support for 6 months to boot.
In short - I and people like me are the death of your vision.
There are a lot of us out there and even with great networking you will not beat our niche. And you certainly aren't going to make a living out of it.
What you need to do is look for a real job, get the experience and start to collect a clientelle on the side. Hopefully someone you know will start a real business and need some outside consulting - and then you just may get on the road. Not to be unkind, but there are an awful lot of very good techies scraping the ground for any cash that will come up - dont plan on this buying groceries any time soon.
Somewhere on Slashdot there was notice about a three part series about becoming a consultant - wonderful to read, very honest and inspirational -cant find it though sadly :/
Sera