I would be very surprised if Microsoft makes this work with anything other then their products.
This is just a defensive move by Microsoft. They are responding to initiatives from non-Microsoft groups because they don't like the non-Microsoft groups to have relationships with customers that don't require Microsoft. So they work this defensive Me Too strategy short term.
Long term, Microsoft needs to get the customers to buy LongHorn and OfficeHorn and Otherhorn products.
The LongHorn timeframe, 2 or 3 or 4 more years, is difficult for Microsoft. They don't have a particular reason for customers to care about Horns or not Horns.
All we really know at this point is that computer users care about security, privacy, trust, reputation, community, support, standardization and TCO.
Then they came out with the alpha chip. A screamingly fast 64 bit machine in a tower case that destroyed any PC in terms of performance. They could not sell it.
How a company can create one fantastic product after another and still get it's ass kicked like a 90 pound weakling is beyond me.
"Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes."
I have mod points right now, but decided to comment on the abysmal state of the mod system instead.
That's not necessarily "abysmalness". The mod system is simply an implementation of a rules based system that gains participation from unpaid participants to create community.
The results of this system?
Democracy, feedback, self-articulation
... there are many nouns that can be applied to the results. Abysmalness is yours.
Mandelbrot: It relates to a rather subtle mathematical property. In simple terms, there are two ways to define the Mandelbrot set. It is rather like proving that 3+1 and 2+2 give the same result. I have always thought that the two definitions were equivalent. But one is easy to study whereas the other is extremely difficult. So far, the proof has defeated many people. The fact that my conjecture is so simple to state, yet baffles everybody, makes it attractive to mathematicians. The conjecture is the mathematical face of the Mandelbrot set, and the T-shirts are the popular face.
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Hmm... What are these two ways to define the Mandelbrot set?
New Scientist: How did you feel when you discovered it?
Mandelbrot: Its astounding complication was completely out of proportion with what I was expecting. Here is the curious thing: the first night I saw the set, it was just wild. The second night, I became used to it. After a few nights, I became familiar with it.
I wonder what he means by "saw" it.
What graphics computers were popular in the 1940's?
Is that why open source documentation is always so piss poor...
Always so poor? I'm not sure how you could sustain that argument/generalization after examing the numerous counter examples, but let's not get sidetracked here.
Consider the difficulty programmers the world over have just understanding Windows API documentation. And then, how often is the API documentation wrong and/or inconsistent?
Cost to society: millions of engineer hours per year.
The article leads to a central value proposition of open source.
With OSS the expertise required to accomplish X is always within reach by non-career-specialists because a competent software engineer can come up to speed quickly by studying the source code.
Bill Gates is the world's most brilliant innovator. He invented the word processor, spreadsheet, database, compiler and the operating system, and then he went on to invent the internet as well. Recently, he has cured cancer.
Stop denigrating Bill Gates just because you can't be as good as him.
Kim was born with "an enlarged head and missing corpus callosum, the connecting tissue between the brain hemispheres, damage to the cerebellum and no anterior commissure"?
No wonder he can't find the silverware drawer at home. That requires coordination of the parietal lobe via the corpus callosum.
No wonder he can't dress himself, that requires a cerebellum for detailed motor movements.
Now what can he do, this modern day human with a massive conjoined cortical apparatus?
Yes, that approach can make a lot of sense today for delivery of static content.
Dynamic, graphical content in the browser will address new business requirements and give new power to web apps. Employees, customers and value chain will get to see rich data sensibly and intuitively in context. Move through it with their mouse and their eyes.
would you mind explaining why supporting SVG will allow Firefox to win the enterprise space.
1. Data driven graphics.
SVG is an XML grammar. Enterprises have just spent 5 years migrating and enabling their backoffice systems to exchange data as XML. SVG now provides an elegant way to visualize corporate data dynamically. It does this in the browser and the next generation browser is the platform that CIO's want to invest in and use.
Microsoft learnt from following SVG implementations and then "borrowed" to create their Longhorn XML graphics environment.
But Longhorn isn't available until 2007 and won't have great desktop market share until years later, even if it ships on Microsoft's schedule. Enterprise CIOs want to progress their IT now because they have business requirements they are responding to now.
SVG is available now. Mozilla will make it cross platform and enterprise IT will be liberated. So many business applications downstream of the desktop productivity apps can just work as browser apps given a state of the art graphics system.
SVG is that system; it is an XML grammar that interoperates with web standards and it is itself an open web standard.
2. Mobility
CIO's are spending on mobility now.
SVG is on smartphones and mobile devices now. It is specified by 3GPP for phones and adopted by Vodafone, Nokia, Sony Ericsson, Motorola, Sharp, Qualcom...
We've had decimation in Australia since 1971. It's heaps easier to remember than furlongs and doesn't require complex math in your head while you're driving.
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Although now that I think about it, they never really innovated anyway - so I guess they were never truly on the offensive.
a lot of people around here still find them offensive.
I would be very surprised if Microsoft makes this work with anything other then their products.
This is just a defensive move by Microsoft. They are responding to initiatives from non-Microsoft groups because they don't like the non-Microsoft groups to have relationships with customers that don't require Microsoft. So they work this defensive Me Too strategy short term.
Long term, Microsoft needs to get the customers to buy LongHorn and OfficeHorn and Otherhorn products.
The LongHorn timeframe, 2 or 3 or 4 more years, is difficult for Microsoft. They don't have a particular reason for customers to care about Horns or not Horns.
All we really know at this point is that computer users care about security, privacy, trust, reputation, community, support, standardization and TCO.
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like the new online search, Microsoft have made a very good effort to get back in the game.
What game is that?
Follow The Innovator?
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CAD software is good if you make a mistake or if you want to make a derivative drawing. You don't have to start all over again.
And CAD software is more fun than death.
Give it a whirl. You'll have plenty of time for death later.
Then they came out with the alpha chip. A screamingly fast 64 bit machine in a tower case that destroyed any PC in terms of performance. They could not sell it.
How a company can create one fantastic product after another and still get it's ass kicked like a 90 pound weakling is beyond me.
"Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes."
- E.W. Dijkstra
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Maybe you were just searching for an erudite way to say 'point'?
More like I meant 'essence, from the author's view'.
Even more like I meant 'sine qua non'.
Nothing to do with meringues at all.
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I have mod points right now, but decided to comment on the abysmal state of the mod system instead.
That's not necessarily "abysmalness". The mod system is simply an implementation of a rules based system that gains participation from unpaid participants to create community.
The results of this system?
Democracy, feedback, self-articulation
... there are many nouns that can be applied to the results. Abysmalness is yours.What changes would you make to the mod system?
What would be the results?
New Scientist: What's the mystery?
Mandelbrot: It relates to a rather subtle mathematical property. In simple terms, there are two ways to define the Mandelbrot set. It is rather like proving that 3+1 and 2+2 give the same result. I have always thought that the two definitions were equivalent. But one is easy to study whereas the other is extremely difficult. So far, the proof has defeated many people. The fact that my conjecture is so simple to state, yet baffles everybody, makes it attractive to mathematicians. The conjecture is the mathematical face of the Mandelbrot set, and the T-shirts are the popular face.
.
Hmm... What are these two ways to define the Mandelbrot set?
New Scientist: How did you feel when you discovered it?
Mandelbrot: Its astounding complication was completely out of proportion with what I was expecting. Here is the curious thing: the first night I saw the set, it was just wild. The second night, I became used to it. After a few nights, I became familiar with it.
I wonder what he means by "saw" it.
What graphics computers were popular in the 1940's?
I don't quite get the sine qua non of the story, although its a nice story and I'd like to.
Let's see... They're so enamoured of Jobs that they have "brain expolosions" in his presence.
They love making their software.
Jobs courts them.
They pass.
They stop making the software.
Now they're happy ever after without Steve and without making the software??
When Frank did it his way he got to keep the money and the software.
Oh and there were women.
Still, it's nice to read a story from happy people.
email them important info, they store up to 15 megs worth of data, where it will pretty much sit forever.
Have you tested this version of foreverness?
Is that why open source documentation is always so piss poor...
Always so poor? I'm not sure how you could sustain that argument/generalization after examing the numerous counter examples, but let's not get sidetracked here.
Consider the difficulty programmers the world over have just understanding Windows API documentation. And then, how often is the API documentation wrong and/or inconsistent?
Cost to society: millions of engineer hours per year.
.
The article leads to a central value proposition of open source.
With OSS the expertise required to accomplish X is always within reach by non-career-specialists because a competent software engineer can come up to speed quickly by studying the source code.
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So... you voted for Bush-Cheney eh?
Hello?? I say Bill Gates invented the universe and Bill Gates is great and people here think I'm speaking sincerely??
Strange place, this here, today.
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Google copied Microsoft.
Bill Gates is the world's most brilliant innovator. He invented the word processor, spreadsheet, database, compiler and the operating system, and then he went on to invent the internet as well. Recently, he has cured cancer.
Stop denigrating Bill Gates just because you can't be as good as him.
Bill Gates is a resolute leader.
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Did it seem to measure critical thinking and problem solving skills?"
Apparently, these have already been tested elsewhere.
The answer shocked a few people
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Kim was born with "an enlarged head and missing corpus callosum, the connecting tissue between the brain hemispheres, damage to the cerebellum and no anterior commissure"?
No wonder he can't find the silverware drawer at home. That requires coordination of the parietal lobe via the corpus callosum.
No wonder he can't dress himself, that requires a cerebellum for detailed motor movements.
Now what can he do, this modern day human with a massive conjoined cortical apparatus?
Yes, that approach can make a lot of sense today for delivery of static content.
Dynamic, graphical content in the browser will address new business requirements and give new power to web apps. Employees, customers and value chain will get to see rich data sensibly and intuitively in context. Move through it with their mouse and their eyes.
Be your own savant for a little while... with magnets. Really! Maybe.
would you mind explaining why supporting SVG will allow Firefox to win the enterprise space.
1. Data driven graphics.
SVG is an XML grammar. Enterprises have just spent 5 years migrating and enabling their backoffice systems to exchange data as XML. SVG now provides an elegant way to visualize corporate data dynamically. It does this in the browser and the next generation browser is the platform that CIO's want to invest in and use.
Microsoft learnt from following SVG implementations and then "borrowed" to create their Longhorn XML graphics environment.
But Longhorn isn't available until 2007 and won't have great desktop market share until years later, even if it ships on Microsoft's schedule. Enterprise CIOs want to progress their IT now because they have business requirements they are responding to now.
SVG is available now. Mozilla will make it cross platform and enterprise IT will be liberated. So many business applications downstream of the desktop productivity apps can just work as browser apps given a state of the art graphics system.
SVG is that system; it is an XML grammar that interoperates with web standards and it is itself an open web standard.
2. Mobility
CIO's are spending on mobility now.
SVG is on smartphones and mobile devices now. It is specified by 3GPP for phones and adopted by Vodafone, Nokia, Sony Ericsson, Motorola, Sharp, Qualcom...
Mozilla + SVG is a story.
See also Nokia webcast (see their software strategy), svg.org svg developers group.
You can use SVG with IE today with an SVG plugin. Why wouldn't that be a solution for an enterprise that needs SVG support?
Adobe's SVG plugin is a good solution and plenty of enterprises use it. Native support in Mozilla would be a more complete solution because
Next desire, native SVG support so FireFox wins the enterprise space before Longhorn even gets to market.
We have two years.
We've had decimation in Australia since 1971. It's heaps easier to remember than furlongs and doesn't require complex math in your head while you're driving.
Do Honey Bees Defy Dinasour Extinction Theories?
Honey bees mostly don't care. Dinasour extinction theories are not getting a lot of buzz with them.
... at CBS.