"They don't even need to stigmatize gun ownership. Rather than taking guns away they are just taking the ammo away."
I disagree on the taking away ammo. Demand is outstripping supply. Currently, there's U.S. military action in two different countries. The manufacturers would be busy making.223 and 7.62x39. The latter as we are training the natives in the area to do their own policing and building up the Iraqi and Afghan armies.) The government contracts come first in wartime. The common law enforcement calibers, 9 x 19 and.40 S+W are even seeing shortages. So much so some police departments can conduct training exercises.
You may want to look into reloading. Depending on what caliber you shoot, you can do the math to see if makes sense for you.
FTA:" Dell claims it had received emails and telephone calls from customers asking how Tiger could possibly sell Dell computers at such a bargain and demanding their sales rep match Tiger's prices." Simple - because Carl's gone CRAZY!!
Talk about an episode of "Pot meet Kettle". Dell, the same company that the NY AG took to task last year over deceptive practices in selling computers, is filing a lawsuit against Tiger Direct over what amounts to deceptive practices in selling computers. So only Dell has the right to lie to their customers?
No personal experience with Abit. To your statement, all the motherboard manufacturers have been affected by bad capacitors. See http://www.badcaps.net/. In the bad caps dot net forums, you can read about the details of the class action lawsuit against Abit.
My concern here would be the potential to cause a public panic. I recall a google bot malfunctioning once before. To wit:
Google's automated search engine's crawlers brought a news story from December 10, 2002 that detailed United Airline's file for bankruptcy to the top of its listing and confused a large amount of UAL shareholders, causing them to sell their shares and drop the value of UAL significantly. (Reference: http://www.googlechromeboard.com/post193.html)
Let's say their automated data mining for flu information goes wrong. The google public page erroneously reports this data. The CDC (and other health organizations) now have to respond to "Well, Google says this..". Hopefully, large groups of people would critically think over information they read and not panic. However, the previous example shows differently.
Compounding this is the tone of the page. Google's arrogant statement that "...Google Flu Trends uses aggregated Google search data to estimate flu activity in your state up to two weeks faster than traditional flu surveillance systems" I infer to mean "Don't trust those slow-pokes at the CDC; trust us!" If GOOG really wanted to help the CDC, offer free colo, bandwidth and security for their public facing servers so they can broadcast to the public.
Bring in a lawyer and ask about Sarbanes Oxley, the changes to federal e discovery requirements and your industry specific requirements. Computerworld had a good article about the changes to federal e-discovery here: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9001219
For an example, the FAA has the opinion that copies of all written communications to them should be maintained in the format it was sent. So, a fax would be held on to and an email to them would not be deleted.
"The organization's policy unhelpfully recommends that 'really important' e-mails be saved as Word documents." By that logic, any disgruntled ex-employee can create a Word document with outlandish claims. Then claim it's a copy of an email. Your organization's written policy just opened that avenue of legal attack.
You said large company. Why not capture and archive all e-mail messages -- incoming, outgoing and internal? This approach provides the strongest assurance that all relevant e-mail messages are being captured. It will help increase the confidence of internal and external auditors and regulatory authorities in the integrity of the resulting audit trail. If not, then you do run the risk of a judge impsing a fine because you could not produce evidence.
OT: What is a good online British paper for your American cousins to read? From our side, the BBC does some great reporting. As a result, we kind of give any British paper more credit than perhaps its due.
Concur on the Chronicles of Amber series. I think it'd be appropriate for near-teenage boys. Characters have sword and gun fights to resolve personal problems and achieve personal desires.
I would also recommend "Unicorn Variations" a collection of short stories. The title story won a Hugo award. Home is the Hangman is another Hugo winner story there. The novel "Roadmarks" is hard to find, but is a fun read. A road tht runs through time and the smuggler that travels it.
SanguineV makes a point. My two cents is this is why you always turn cheaters in. Two very different reasons. There are those who live by the following statement. "I will not lie, cheat or steal nor tolerate those who do." The other is those who are interested in self-preservation.
Wall Street Journal agree with you. To wit: "Sun's stock has underperformed for several years. It did bounce when Jonathan Schwartz was named CEO about two years ago, but his tenure has been a great disappointment, both for investors and employees. Sun has made several expensive acquisitions including buy-outs of MySQL and StorageTek. Sun's revenue remains flat and its operations swing between tiny profits and small losses. Sun's chief scientist and head of sales recently left the company. News from JAVA comes in the form of almost daily and not useful PR. The company has changed its ticker symbol and has done a reverse merger to move its share price into higher territory. Whatever chance Sun had to claim a major portion of the global server market is lost. IBM (IBM) and Dell (DELL) are in the final stages of beating Sun into the ground. Its bets on Solaris, Java, and open source software have failed. Sun's shares are off over 40% during the last year."
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/story.aspx?guid=%7B848284A8-5B7F-4A29-8AEF-A3F70E273CB4%7D&link=www.247wallst.com/2008/06/the-247-wall-st.html&dist=msr_2/
I agree. The general U.S. populace doesn't perceive China as an enemy. Korea is still unfinished business. Poisoned food, lead toys are subtle but effective attacks against U.S. It won't register I think until our children are working the rice paddies in Louisiana and speaking Mandarin.
Seconded. I'd like to encourage that poster to submit to EV Album dot com. Amazing what people can turn out of their garages. You can do a search on the site for Huffy, Schwinn, Trek and so on. I have no connection to the site other than being a visitor. You may be interested in these two in particular.
The premise of the E-Fuel 100 MicroFueler is you pay 10K to have a pre-made still (for lack of a better word) to make ethanol. Then you take your home-brew and put it into your car. I'll let others poke holes in this approach.
For $10,000 you can convert your gas powered car to be powered by electricity. "A typical conversion, if it is using all new parts, costs between $5,000 and $10,000 (not counting the cost of the donor vehicle or labor). The costs break down like this:
Batteries - $1,000 to $2,000
Motor - $1,000 to $2,000
Controller - $1,000 to $2,000
Adapter plate - $500 to $1,000
Other (motors, wiring, switches, etc.) - $500 to $1,000"
The advantage here would be a form of daily transportation with zero-emissions, using a quiet motor that's cheaper to operate per mile (3).
What I gather from the article, the school net admin left for whatever reason. (Actually, he probably had to leave before he was fired. Look at the third pic in the slideshow.*) They dumped the net admin duties on the school librarian. Instead of telling them, "According to my job description, computer repair isn't one of the duties listed. I refuse; hire somebody or contract it out." She then lets her son do the work assinged to her.
Looking over the school website, I don't see the job opening posted on their http://www.victorybaptistschool.net/index2.htmlwebsite Apparently a private religious school can get away with child labor. The site even lists the email address of a "Dan Todd" in case you'd care to let the HR manager know your opinion.
I'm all for that kid learning. It'd be more beneficial to him to "learn" by working alongside a seasoned pro.
\* == rant. No excuses for that cable install. I've had to clean up my share of messes over the years. Two things come to mind. 1) Write the port numbers on the patch panels. Those white labels are there for a reason. 2) LABEL YOUR CABLES! Even if it is with a Brothers label maker you picked up for $20 - use it!
1)When nerf guns are outlawed, then only outlaws will have nerf guns. 2)I've seen a picture of a rack of shotguns with the caption "The damn zombies aren't going to kill themselves."
This is real scary. According to National Association of Wheat Growers, "The United State would also be highly vulnerable to Ug99, with recent assessments suggesting that more than 50% of hard winter wheat and more than 75% of hard spring wheat acreage are currently planted to varieties that are susceptible to Ug99". (I'd post the reference link, but the filter complained about the length!) According to this page , world wheat reserves are the lowest in 25 years. I would not trust trying to buy one's food on the global market anytime soon.
So what you are saying is you look forward to their ability to contribute to your social security fund? I don't mean to troll. I ask you (and others reading this) to consider what they can do to make sure this doesn't happen. For me, hopefully I can help to educate the one younger relative. For others, there's the boy's club or mentoring programs.
"How much does organized crime rely on computers and network technology?"
One example comes to mind from the War on Some Drugs. On May 18, 1994, the Colombian authorities raided the offices of Jose Santacruz Londono, an associate of the Rodriguez brothers (big time Cali drug cartel guys), and confiscated an IBM AS/400 computer worth a $1 million. The AS/400 purpose was to sniff out moles within the drug cartel's organization. The cartel did this by housing a database of phone numbers of U.S. diplomats and agents based in Columbia, which was continuously correlated against the entire call log for Cali, which was leaked to the cartel by the local phone company. This setup effectively told the cartel who, when, and where anybody was using a telephone to contact drug enforcement personnel.
There was an article in Business 2.0, "The Technology Secrets of Cocaine Inc." by author Paul Kaihla. That's where I read about it originally. You may also find more reading online here:
http://crimemagazine.com/06/calicartel,1021-6.htm
"To my knowledge, it's never been used as such. I implore someone to prove me wrong if I am"
Two cases I'm aware of. A PC World article in Autstrailia dated 2004 says the Dutch cops used it in investigating a gang counterfeiting rail tickets. Look in the below first article, third paragraph under sub-heading "success". Second, China busted 3 for selling counterfeit rail tickets yesterday that used a high end printer to make them.
One argument is that If the tracking technology was not there, would the cops have such an easy time picking up the dumb criminals? The other is that some governments would use this to track down those printing dissident materials.
I think a better question is define your problem better with some additional details. Do you want a separate drive letter to appear to the customers for them to keep their stuff on? Or do you want something that only you can get to store backups on? What kind of network is it? 100Mb/s? 1 Gb/s?
You'd asked two questions:
"What would be a productive use for these terabytes of wasted space? " I don't know if I'd ask the slashdot crowd this.
In theory, you could use MRTG to measure your fileserver's switch port to see how much traffic the desktops pull from the server. Divide it by the number of desktops and that tells you on average how much each requests. Now consider that this average would be going to distributed across the network, with each desktop seeing an increase. A Gb LAN may be able to take this with no sweat.
As for how much disk space you are going to practically gain is up for debate. Let's say a 20 Gb quota from each drive. Doing the math , that just under 1.95 Tb. If you ever have to reload a number of those workstations, a good chunk of that is going to be unavailable. You may be better served with a NAS storage device.
"And if anything goes wrong, the guy AND the game makers will get sued for millions."
Not necessarily. In the U.S., there are what's called "Good Samaritan" laws. To wit:
"Any person who, in good faith, renders emergency medical care or assistance to an injured person at the scene of an accident or other emergency without the expectation of receiving or intending to receive compensation from such injured person for such service, shall not be liable in civil damages for any act or omission, not constituting gross negligence, in the course of such care or assistance."
Emphasis mine. A little digging on the web shows that North Carolina, where this occured, pass a Good Samaritan law in 1975 providing immunity to would be rescuers. In short, Good Samaritan laws give the rescuer a "get out of jail free" card.
IANAL, so check your state. I hate to hear others state that "they don't want to get involved as they may get sued." Knowing the above, that's a cop-out. Don't be afraid to help if you think you can.
I agree with you. I don't understand the aversion to used cars. When you buy used, you save money and the environment. In the U.S., I think the law is auto manufacturers have to make parts available for 10 years. If one does the routine maintenenance yourself and a mechanic to do the stuff you can't, you save money by not having a car payment. The environment point is that with the current production methods, the sheer impact of harvesting all the materials to go into a new car exceed any gain from the updated fuel effiency.
As for seeing it in the U.S., two things here:
In India required safety standards do not currently include full-body crash testing, airbags or antilock braking systems (1). The cars would have to be upgraded to be U.S. street legal. Which brings us to this point:
"Roland Berger [consulting group] estimates it would cost as much as $4,000 on top of Tata's $2,500 to engineer the car to meet U.S. safety and emissions regulations, transport it, pay tariffs, market it, pay lawyers and offer warranties. The same would hold true to meet European or Japanese standards.
Meanwhile, the Tata would have to compete, too, with a used-car market that turns over 43 million cars a year. A quick Web search shows that $6,500 could buy a 1998 Cadillac Seville with a V-8 engine and a leather interior, or a 2002 Dodge Caravan that seats seven."
References:
1 NY Times
2 Rediff
3 Forbes
4 Business Week
Slashdot Mirror
"They don't even need to stigmatize gun ownership. Rather than taking guns away they are just taking the ammo away."
I disagree on the taking away ammo. Demand is outstripping supply. Currently, there's U.S. military action in two different countries. The manufacturers would be busy making .223 and 7.62x39. The latter as we are training the natives in the area to do their own policing and building up the Iraqi and Afghan armies.) The government contracts come first in wartime. The common law enforcement calibers, 9 x 19 and .40 S+W are even seeing shortages. So much so some police departments can conduct training exercises.
You may want to look into reloading. Depending on what caliber you shoot, you can do the math to see if makes sense for you.
I thought it was Suck All Profits ?
FTA:" Dell claims it had received emails and telephone calls from customers asking how Tiger could possibly sell Dell computers at such a bargain and demanding their sales rep match Tiger's prices." Simple - because Carl's gone CRAZY!!
Talk about an episode of "Pot meet Kettle". Dell, the same company that the NY AG took to task last year over deceptive practices in selling computers, is filing a lawsuit against Tiger Direct over what amounts to deceptive practices in selling computers. So only Dell has the right to lie to their customers?
No personal experience with Abit. To your statement, all the motherboard manufacturers have been affected by bad capacitors. See http://www.badcaps.net/. In the bad caps dot net forums, you can read about the details of the class action lawsuit against Abit.
Heck, Wiki calls it a "plague" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague.
My concern here would be the potential to cause a public panic. I recall a google bot malfunctioning once before. To wit: Google's automated search engine's crawlers brought a news story from December 10, 2002 that detailed United Airline's file for bankruptcy to the top of its listing and confused a large amount of UAL shareholders, causing them to sell their shares and drop the value of UAL significantly. (Reference: http://www.googlechromeboard.com/post193.html)
Let's say their automated data mining for flu information goes wrong. The google public page erroneously reports this data. The CDC (and other health organizations) now have to respond to "Well, Google says this..". Hopefully, large groups of people would critically think over information they read and not panic. However, the previous example shows differently.
Compounding this is the tone of the page. Google's arrogant statement that "...Google Flu Trends uses aggregated Google search data to estimate flu activity in your state up to two weeks faster than traditional flu surveillance systems" I infer to mean "Don't trust those slow-pokes at the CDC; trust us!" If GOOG really wanted to help the CDC, offer free colo, bandwidth and security for their public facing servers so they can broadcast to the public.
Bring in a lawyer and ask about Sarbanes Oxley, the changes to federal e discovery requirements and your industry specific requirements. Computerworld had a good article about the changes to federal e-discovery here: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9001219 For an example, the FAA has the opinion that copies of all written communications to them should be maintained in the format it was sent. So, a fax would be held on to and an email to them would not be deleted.
"The organization's policy unhelpfully recommends that 'really important' e-mails be saved as Word documents." By that logic, any disgruntled ex-employee can create a Word document with outlandish claims. Then claim it's a copy of an email. Your organization's written policy just opened that avenue of legal attack.
You said large company. Why not capture and archive all e-mail messages -- incoming, outgoing and internal? This approach provides the strongest assurance that all relevant e-mail messages are being captured. It will help increase the confidence of internal and external auditors and regulatory authorities in the integrity of the resulting audit trail. If not, then you do run the risk of a judge impsing a fine because you could not produce evidence.
OT: What is a good online British paper for your American cousins to read? From our side, the BBC does some great reporting. As a result, we kind of give any British paper more credit than perhaps its due.
Concur on the Chronicles of Amber series. I think it'd be appropriate for near-teenage boys. Characters have sword and gun fights to resolve personal problems and achieve personal desires. I would also recommend "Unicorn Variations" a collection of short stories. The title story won a Hugo award. Home is the Hangman is another Hugo winner story there. The novel "Roadmarks" is hard to find, but is a fun read. A road tht runs through time and the smuggler that travels it.
SanguineV makes a point. My two cents is this is why you always turn cheaters in. Two very different reasons. There are those who live by the following statement. "I will not lie, cheat or steal nor tolerate those who do." The other is those who are interested in self-preservation.
Wall Street Journal agree with you. To wit: "Sun's stock has underperformed for several years. It did bounce when Jonathan Schwartz was named CEO about two years ago, but his tenure has been a great disappointment, both for investors and employees. Sun has made several expensive acquisitions including buy-outs of MySQL and StorageTek. Sun's revenue remains flat and its operations swing between tiny profits and small losses. Sun's chief scientist and head of sales recently left the company. News from JAVA comes in the form of almost daily and not useful PR. The company has changed its ticker symbol and has done a reverse merger to move its share price into higher territory. Whatever chance Sun had to claim a major portion of the global server market is lost. IBM (IBM) and Dell (DELL) are in the final stages of beating Sun into the ground. Its bets on Solaris, Java, and open source software have failed. Sun's shares are off over 40% during the last year." http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/story.aspx?guid=%7B848284A8-5B7F-4A29-8AEF-A3F70E273CB4%7D&link=www.247wallst.com/2008/06/the-247-wall-st.html&dist=msr_2/
I really hope this isn't Sun's swan song.
I agree. The general U.S. populace doesn't perceive China as an enemy. Korea is still unfinished business. Poisoned food, lead toys are subtle but effective attacks against U.S. It won't register I think until our children are working the rice paddies in Louisiana and speaking Mandarin.
Seconded. I'd like to encourage that poster to submit to EV Album dot com. Amazing what people can turn out of their garages. You can do a search on the site for Huffy, Schwinn, Trek and so on. I have no connection to the site other than being a visitor. You may be interested in these two in particular.
This sounds somewhat close. A 2006 Schwinn Ranger. http://www.evalbum.com/1634
I'm really impressed with this one though. A 1987 Suzuki SP200 electric conversion. http://www.evalbum.com/1511
The premise of the E-Fuel 100 MicroFueler is you pay 10K to have a pre-made still (for lack of a better word) to make ethanol. Then you take your home-brew and put it into your car. I'll let others poke holes in this approach.
For $10,000 you can convert your gas powered car to be powered by electricity. "A typical conversion, if it is using all new parts, costs between $5,000 and $10,000 (not counting the cost of the donor vehicle or labor). The costs break down like this:
- Batteries - $1,000 to $2,000
- Motor - $1,000 to $2,000
- Controller - $1,000 to $2,000
- Adapter plate - $500 to $1,000
- Other (motors, wiring, switches, etc.) - $500 to $1,000"
The advantage here would be a form of daily transportation with zero-emissions, using a quiet motor that's cheaper to operate per mile (3).References
In short, because it's child labor.
What I gather from the article, the school net admin left for whatever reason. (Actually, he probably had to leave before he was fired. Look at the third pic in the slideshow.*) They dumped the net admin duties on the school librarian. Instead of telling them, "According to my job description, computer repair isn't one of the duties listed. I refuse; hire somebody or contract it out." She then lets her son do the work assinged to her.
Looking over the school website, I don't see the job opening posted on their http://www.victorybaptistschool.net/index2.htmlwebsite Apparently a private religious school can get away with child labor. The site even lists the email address of a "Dan Todd" in case you'd care to let the HR manager know your opinion.
I'm all for that kid learning. It'd be more beneficial to him to "learn" by working alongside a seasoned pro.
\* == rant. No excuses for that cable install. I've had to clean up my share of messes over the years. Two things come to mind. 1) Write the port numbers on the patch panels. Those white labels are there for a reason. 2) LABEL YOUR CABLES! Even if it is with a Brothers label maker you picked up for $20 - use it!
Two.
1)When nerf guns are outlawed, then only outlaws will have nerf guns.
2)I've seen a picture of a rack of shotguns with the caption "The damn zombies aren't going to kill themselves."
Good night!
This is real scary. According to National Association of Wheat Growers, "The United State would also be highly vulnerable to Ug99, with recent assessments suggesting that more than 50% of hard winter wheat and more than 75% of hard spring wheat acreage are currently planted to varieties that are susceptible to Ug99". (I'd post the reference link, but the filter complained about the length!)
According to this page , world wheat reserves are the lowest in 25 years. I would not trust trying to buy one's food on the global market anytime soon.
So what you are saying is you look forward to their ability to contribute to your social security fund? I don't mean to troll. I ask you (and others reading this) to consider what they can do to make sure this doesn't happen. For me, hopefully I can help to educate the one younger relative. For others, there's the boy's club or mentoring programs.
"How much does organized crime rely on computers and network technology?"
One example comes to mind from the War on Some Drugs. On May 18, 1994, the Colombian authorities raided the offices of Jose Santacruz Londono, an associate of the Rodriguez brothers (big time Cali drug cartel guys), and confiscated an IBM AS/400 computer worth a $1 million. The AS/400 purpose was to sniff out moles within the drug cartel's organization. The cartel did this by housing a database of phone numbers of U.S. diplomats and agents based in Columbia, which was continuously correlated against the entire call log for Cali, which was leaked to the cartel by the local phone company. This setup effectively told the cartel who, when, and where anybody was using a telephone to contact drug enforcement personnel.
There was an article in Business 2.0, "The Technology Secrets of Cocaine Inc." by author Paul Kaihla. That's where I read about it originally. You may also find more reading online here: http://crimemagazine.com/06/calicartel,1021-6.htm
"To my knowledge, it's never been used as such. I implore someone to prove me wrong if I am"
Two cases I'm aware of. A PC World article in Autstrailia dated 2004 says the Dutch cops used it in investigating a gang counterfeiting rail tickets. Look in the below first article, third paragraph under sub-heading "success". Second, China busted 3 for selling counterfeit rail tickets yesterday that used a high end printer to make them.
One argument is that If the tracking technology was not there, would the cops have such an easy time picking up the dumb criminals? The other is that some governments would use this to track down those printing dissident materials.
I think a better question is define your problem better with some additional details. Do you want a separate drive letter to appear to the customers for them to keep their stuff on? Or do you want something that only you can get to store backups on? What kind of network is it? 100Mb/s? 1 Gb/s?
You'd asked two questions: "What would be a productive use for these terabytes of wasted space? " I don't know if I'd ask the slashdot crowd this.
"Does any software exist that would enable pooling this extra space into one or more large virtual networked drives?" A few. Localhost Azureus http://p2p.cs.mu.oz.au/software/Localhost/faq.html but it hasn't been maintained since 2006. Lustre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lustre_(file_system)#Networking is a neat read but I don't think is applicable in your situation. It'll give you an idea as to what's out there.
In theory, you could use MRTG to measure your fileserver's switch port to see how much traffic the desktops pull from the server. Divide it by the number of desktops and that tells you on average how much each requests. Now consider that this average would be going to distributed across the network, with each desktop seeing an increase. A Gb LAN may be able to take this with no sweat.
As for how much disk space you are going to practically gain is up for debate. Let's say a 20 Gb quota from each drive. Doing the math , that just under 1.95 Tb. If you ever have to reload a number of those workstations, a good chunk of that is going to be unavailable. You may be better served with a NAS storage device.
More details can be found here from the previous round of talks: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070308-us-doj-microsoft-dragging-feet-on-documentation.html Or the official DOJ page http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/cases/f221700/221759.htm
"And if anything goes wrong, the guy AND the game makers will get sued for millions."
Not necessarily. In the U.S., there are what's called "Good Samaritan" laws. To wit:
"Any person who, in good faith, renders emergency medical care or assistance to an injured person at the scene of an accident or other emergency without the expectation of receiving or intending to receive compensation from such injured person for such service, shall not be liable in civil damages for any act or omission, not constituting gross negligence, in the course of such care or assistance."
Emphasis mine. A little digging on the web shows that North Carolina, where this occured, pass a Good Samaritan law in 1975 providing immunity to would be rescuers. In short, Good Samaritan laws give the rescuer a "get out of jail free" card.
IANAL, so check your state. I hate to hear others state that "they don't want to get involved as they may get sued." Knowing the above, that's a cop-out. Don't be afraid to help if you think you can.
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I agree with you. I don't understand the aversion to used cars. When you buy used, you save money and the environment. In the U.S., I think the law is auto manufacturers have to make parts available for 10 years. If one does the routine maintenenance yourself and a mechanic to do the stuff you can't, you save money by not having a car payment. The environment point is that with the current production methods, the sheer impact of harvesting all the materials to go into a new car exceed any gain from the updated fuel effiency.
- 33 HP 660 cc gas engine. Also a 700 cc diesel option. (4)
- 80 mph top speed (4)
- single windshield wiper blade as a "cost-saving measure"(2)
- Four doors (4)
- 25 kilometers (15.5 miles) per liter. Call it 60 mpg using company supplied numbers(3)
- Picture here maybe with an scanned in article about it listing engine options
As for seeing it in the U.S., two things here: In India required safety standards do not currently include full-body crash testing, airbags or antilock braking systems (1). The cars would have to be upgraded to be U.S. street legal. Which brings us to this point: "Roland Berger [consulting group] estimates it would cost as much as $4,000 on top of Tata's $2,500 to engineer the car to meet U.S. safety and emissions regulations, transport it, pay tariffs, market it, pay lawyers and offer warranties. The same would hold true to meet European or Japanese standards. Meanwhile, the Tata would have to compete, too, with a used-car market that turns over 43 million cars a year. A quick Web search shows that $6,500 could buy a 1998 Cadillac Seville with a V-8 engine and a leather interior, or a 2002 Dodge Caravan that seats seven." References: 1 NY Times 2 Rediff 3 Forbes 4 Business WeekReminds me - what's that old joke? The "E" stands for "Enough gas"?