Direct insertion of DNA sequences from other species is different to breeding and selection.
End of story.
By all means get pissy about the definition of evolution, you're just trying to play semantics that have nothing at all to do with the argument at hand.
And I wish you people would stop "you people"'ing me. For god's sake, it's as if you people are incapable of addressing individuals.
"The only difference is in the people doing the modification and the techniques used."
And the results being things that haven't evolved. And the fact that the radical changes that can happen with genetic engineering might not be best thing if they got into the wild.
It's not the same, really.
Do we really have the confidence in our understanding of genetic mechanisms to rule out harmful side-effects?
And that's not even to mention stuff like the Terminator gene, the GM equivalent of server-based DRM. If a crop containing that cross pollinates another crop that doesn't then you may have killed the livelihood of the farmer next door.
We'd probably call it a camper van. A large camper van.
A caravan is something old people tow behind their hysterically underpowered cars in order to clog up the smaller roads in rural Britain with maximum effectiveness for any public holiday weekend.
Don't forget the element of excuses and justifications!
What can one little ship matter in such a big sea? Those government types are always making bizarre laws and nothing *that* bad ever happens anyway, does it?
Sure, it's gonna be fine! I'll just get rid of this for you, it's no big deal...
Over here in the UK we threw away the orbital theory at the age of 16/17 in favour of the probability clouds. I'm sure it was still a simplification of (or precursor to) whatever theory was cutting edge at the time, but it was part of a pre-university chemistry education. And quite interesting too.
You clearly haven't used Be broadband. No limits. May have a FUP, but mostly aimed at heavy users. 24 Mbit (ADSL, so YMMV) for around 19 quid a month. Get a static IP for an extra pound.
That's not really the latency that's the problem here, though it would affect the folks "in the boonies" more, most likely.
No, the problem here is that the absolute minimum time between you hitting a button and the corresponding action occurring on screen is the time it would take if the game was running locally PLUS the network round-trip time. That extra, in most cases, would dwarf the local latency (unless I'm very wrong).
I've got some sort of natural scepticism of all this cloud stuff as it is, but this does seem to me to be a real, no-quick-fix problem. I'll watch for people's reactions over the coming months as it gets tested.
You mean the stuff that's been shouted about by universities across the world as th next big thing for... well as long as I've been in the software game, which is only 12 years I'll admit.
"So you've still got that "deeply impoverished underclass" that you are so worried about. Only now the rest of us are supporting them. I don't really see how this represents much of an improvement. "
They aren't dying on the streets or (for the most part) robbing you.
"People on welfare have all the spare minutes in the world. Why aren't they bettering themselves?"
Because they're lazy assholes. Stripping away welfare entirely and, worse, removing minimum wage would leave the poor that did want to better themselves without the ability to do so.
I agree that an assessment of what's going on and a re-balancing are in order. But removing these protections leaves those with real wealth in a position to make the rest of us beg for crusts.
"There is nothing magical about this: distributed is better than centralised."
Good assertion, no backup.
"(Minarchist) libertarians believe in the rule of law and would not dismantle laws that truly exist for the protection of ordinary people, rather than existing simply to keep them out of work and dependent on the state (e.g. the benefit system and minimum wage)."
And that's where it falls down. No welfare and no minimum wage? You end up with a deeply impoverished underclass who are effectively slaves, without a spare cent or a spare minute to better themselves ("pull themselves up by their bootstraps" as people seem so fond of saying).
Libertarianism is a recipe for a return of aristocracy.
We see over and over again that "the market" brings poverty and misery to millions, yet libertarians still worship it like some sort of god.
The world does not work by magic, human nature is selfish and abusive. Libertarianism would result, very quickly, in an effective return to feudalism and serfdom.
I bet Thatcher was the devil and destroyed the economy too eh?
No, Labour screwed up badly last time and have done it again. Much as I dislike their moral standpoints, the Tories at least have some business sense and some sort of idea of privacy and individual rights, unlike the current lot.
The current labour party got there today by being the opposition after over a decade of rule by a single party. The Tories are about to do the same. This is because the largest part of the electorate is voting the way it (and it's daddy) always voted (tribalism), and those that do change their vote are lacking in both imagination and ability to change anything other than which one of the big two gets in. From next year you have a decade or so of Tory rule to look forward to. Try to enjoy it.
I'm betting they won't institute ID cards or fellate the next republican president in the way Blair did. That man was a national disgrace.
AFAICT, pidgin doesn't use MS (or yahoo or whatever) code or libraries, just the protocol.
Turning a GPL library into an RPC server for local use seems a little more risky and a deliberate attempt at circumvention, not interoperativity. But as the other poster pointed out, I'm not sure there's much case law in this area.
You'd have to be VERY careful doing that and not falling within some definition of derivative work. Especially if it went to court and the people who wrote the GPL'd code could sho just how much effort you've put into circumventing the license with the same end effect as if you'd ignored it completely.
I think the newer platform that the nokia will run on is somewhat less power-sucky than the N270 + intel combination that's in the 901 I'm guessing you have now.
The 1005HA is supposed to get 10 hours, but it's got a hard drive.
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Direct insertion of DNA sequences from other species is different to breeding and selection.
End of story.
By all means get pissy about the definition of evolution, you're just trying to play semantics that have nothing at all to do with the argument at hand.
And I wish you people would stop "you people"'ing me. For god's sake, it's as if you people are incapable of addressing individuals.
"The only difference is in the people doing the modification and the techniques used."
And the results being things that haven't evolved. And the fact that the radical changes that can happen with genetic engineering might not be best thing if they got into the wild.
It's not the same, really.
Do we really have the confidence in our understanding of genetic mechanisms to rule out harmful side-effects?
And that's not even to mention stuff like the Terminator gene, the GM equivalent of server-based DRM. If a crop containing that cross pollinates another crop that doesn't then you may have killed the livelihood of the farmer next door.
Fragility can be attractive too.
Men have something of an instinct to protect and look after their woman.
I'm not advocating heroin chic, and I like curves, but there's nothing wrong with a gorgeous slim goth chick in a corset. No sir.
Copyright?
Wouldn't this be more likely come under the circumvention of cryptographic protection techniques which the DMCA also outlaws?
We'd probably call it a camper van. A large camper van.
A caravan is something old people tow behind their hysterically underpowered cars in order to clog up the smaller roads in rural Britain with maximum effectiveness for any public holiday weekend.
Don't forget the element of excuses and justifications!
What can one little ship matter in such a big sea? Those government types are always making bizarre laws and nothing *that* bad ever happens anyway, does it?
Sure, it's gonna be fine! I'll just get rid of this for you, it's no big deal...
Over here in the UK we threw away the orbital theory at the age of 16/17 in favour of the probability clouds. I'm sure it was still a simplification of (or precursor to) whatever theory was cutting edge at the time, but it was part of a pre-university chemistry education. And quite interesting too.
What the hell are you talking about?
You clearly haven't used Be broadband. No limits. May have a FUP, but mostly aimed at heavy users. 24 Mbit (ADSL, so YMMV) for around 19 quid a month. Get a static IP for an extra pound.
The UK is ahead of the US in terms of broadband.
Are you a little bit special?
Not only (as the other poster mentioned) are there phono sound outputs on the cable it comes with, but there's an optical out on the back.
That's not really the latency that's the problem here, though it would affect the folks "in the boonies" more, most likely.
No, the problem here is that the absolute minimum time between you hitting a button and the corresponding action occurring on screen is the time it would take if the game was running locally PLUS the network round-trip time. That extra, in most cases, would dwarf the local latency (unless I'm very wrong).
I've got some sort of natural scepticism of all this cloud stuff as it is, but this does seem to me to be a real, no-quick-fix problem. I'll watch for people's reactions over the coming months as it gets tested.
I could have told you that.
It's embarrassing is what it is, to be turned into a drooling moron and then realise later just how stupid you sounded.
Semantic web?
You mean the stuff that's been shouted about by universities across the world as th next big thing for... well as long as I've been in the software game, which is only 12 years I'll admit.
Call me when it escapes from a lab.
Does your EU figure count the UK?
Because I pay 19 GBP per month for 24Mbit with no limits at all. Sure, there's a FUP, but I'm pretty sure I've topped out over 100G in a month before.
It can be done.
"So you've still got that "deeply impoverished underclass" that you are so worried about. Only now the rest of us are supporting them. I don't really see how this represents much of an improvement. "
They aren't dying on the streets or (for the most part) robbing you.
"People on welfare have all the spare minutes in the world. Why aren't they bettering themselves?"
Because they're lazy assholes. Stripping away welfare entirely and, worse, removing minimum wage would leave the poor that did want to better themselves without the ability to do so.
I agree that an assessment of what's going on and a re-balancing are in order. But removing these protections leaves those with real wealth in a position to make the rest of us beg for crusts.
"There is nothing magical about this: distributed is better than centralised."
Good assertion, no backup.
"(Minarchist) libertarians believe in the rule of law and would not dismantle laws that truly exist for the protection of ordinary people, rather than existing simply to keep them out of work and dependent on the state (e.g. the benefit system and minimum wage)."
And that's where it falls down. No welfare and no minimum wage? You end up with a deeply impoverished underclass who are effectively slaves, without a spare cent or a spare minute to better themselves ("pull themselves up by their bootstraps" as people seem so fond of saying).
Libertarianism is a recipe for a return of aristocracy.
Libertarianism is a recipe for fail.
We see over and over again that "the market" brings poverty and misery to millions, yet libertarians still worship it like some sort of god.
The world does not work by magic, human nature is selfish and abusive. Libertarianism would result, very quickly, in an effective return to feudalism and serfdom.
I bet Thatcher was the devil and destroyed the economy too eh?
No, Labour screwed up badly last time and have done it again. Much as I dislike their moral standpoints, the Tories at least have some business sense and some sort of idea of privacy and individual rights, unlike the current lot.
The current labour party got there today by being the opposition after over a decade of rule by a single party. The Tories are about to do the same. This is because the largest part of the electorate is voting the way it (and it's daddy) always voted (tribalism), and those that do change their vote are lacking in both imagination and ability to change anything other than which one of the big two gets in. From next year you have a decade or so of Tory rule to look forward to. Try to enjoy it.
I'm betting they won't institute ID cards or fellate the next republican president in the way Blair did. That man was a national disgrace.
I would think that by then both of these things will have been thoroughly outclassed.
The US is funny - most europeans (with contracts) get a new phone every year, though the companies are trying to elongate that at the moment.
I only ever implemented one, and it was a huge while loop containing a big switch. That was when I was still a little wet behind the ears though.
AFAICT, pidgin doesn't use MS (or yahoo or whatever) code or libraries, just the protocol.
Turning a GPL library into an RPC server for local use seems a little more risky and a deliberate attempt at circumvention, not interoperativity. But as the other poster pointed out, I'm not sure there's much case law in this area.
You'd have to be VERY careful doing that and not falling within some definition of derivative work. Especially if it went to court and the people who wrote the GPL'd code could sho just how much effort you've put into circumventing the license with the same end effect as if you'd ignored it completely.
Regardless of where this one goes, I'm not sure that opening up the path to renewed litigation against IBM could ever be seen as a good thing.
They'll be ripped to pieces the moment that starts. They're called the Nazgul for a reason.
I think the newer platform that the nokia will run on is somewhat less power-sucky than the N270 + intel combination that's in the 901 I'm guessing you have now.
The 1005HA is supposed to get 10 hours, but it's got a hard drive.
Or is it just robot season? We've had throwable robots, fleash-eating robots, evil robots, deceptive robots...
Don't get me wrong, I love robots, it's just I've never seen so much robot related news in a week before.
Bite my shiny metal ass.
There's always some smart-arse coming up with reasons to disallow free beer at work, dammit.