"If I recall, "community service" was not strictly defined by either the parent or grandparent post. It was open ended."
Right. That was, after all, my point. Someone, somewhere, will need to define community service. And once you do, the problems begin.
I'm saying that what happens if you say 'community service required', and someone goes to a pro-life rally. A lot of people will complain, saying that's political, and against the community. If it ends up being allowed (it's a moral issue, so we can't interfere sort of thing) than what's to stop some idiot like Phelps from taking his 'God hates Fags' rallys and calling them community service? As soon as you define it, the problems start, and it has to be defined in some way, otherwise inviting the local kids over for a Mortal Kombat tournament would be CS. Actually, that might be a good idea... but you should be able to see what I mean.
I believe community service, as a 'punishment', is generally related to the crime. Work in a rehab clinic for a drug conviction, etc., right? Regardless, the courts are defining it... and people have successfully sued to get service changed because it was against their beliefs and the judge wouldn't change it (as I recall, Moore is famous for this).
"they would be given a chance to turn down the position and look elsewhere"
Not really a choice at all, is it? Just like 'don't smoke pot, or go to jail'. Just like drug tests. Ever think about not taking a job because they can't be bothered to respect your privacy? Guess what... you're not going to work for anyplace aside from retail (maybe). I don't do drugs (because they're illegal... Heinlein: "Most males have an unhealthy tendency to obey laws"), but I got very annoyed every time I was asked to leave a sample.
Now, add in what is defined as community service. Volunteering at a church might be... or it might not be. Depends on whether they're willing to accept other religious possibilities (If you accept that, how about pro-life rallies sponsored by a church? Probably considered community service by the church, right? Take that a step further, and look up 'Phelps' and see why this might be a problem). And if you're not accepting that, why not?
I know people who wouldn't donate to the united way because of its abortion support. But it was essentially required where my mother worked if you wanted to get above non-management. Is that a good thing? Of course not.
Community service, political action, etc. should be separate from work. If some workplace makes all their employees go to a political rally, they'd be killed in the press. And CS is the same sort of thing.
"Is it any wonder jobs by the thousands are going over to India and the Phillipines? With Western programmers thinking they can play games on the company's clock and attempt to justify it as 'productive'"
The problem with that is that you've completely reversed cause and effect. People aren't motivated, because the company sees people as 'Human Resources'. I was told in my second performance review 'Most people here work more than 40 hours a week. If you want to do well, you have to work over 50.' I imagine a lot of people will look at that and say 'only 50?!'... Well, guess what? That sounds a lot like the company could care less who is shoved into the 'engineer' slot. So why should I care about it's opinion, hmm?
Lack of consideration is just a two way street, that's all. The companies started it, employees are just going with the flow.
This sort of thing happens to me, sometimes (I'm a Mech Eng, so not as often, I expect). I finally got annoyed and got things going this way. (note: 'production' is my way of saying 'the people running the live server'. Same idea, anyway.)
Send an e-mail to your production contact who won't give you information, his boss, your boss, and CC yourself. Say something like 'I require the install locations, search paths available, etc. etc. in order to test the system adequately before deployment. Without this data, the system cannot be tested fully, and bugs will (not can) result. I request your immediate attention to this.'
Resend this e-mail at the beginning of testing, urgent priority. If you use outlook, it puts a neat little red ! next to the e-mail.
When the code goes out, use the same e-mail headers, containing a copy of the code and this e-mail, with the note 'Information required was not provided by production. This code should be regarded as Beta code, not production quality, due to lack of response from production.' For added effect, CC marketing and/or sales, depending on your workplace.
Note that I'm assuming the friendly way has been repeatedly tried, otherwise this is excessive. I had to do this a grand total of once. It hasn't happened again.
Why would a site called 'Security Focus' ask for cookies?
Problem in the article: First, the movie is probably set 700 years or so in the future. (based on the conversation at the end of the movie with the guy with the white beard... close as I can get w/out spoilers). Not ACE 2199. Or alternatly, the movie is set in early 21st century (the Matrix's 'present'.
Other than that, it's nice to see a hacking sequence that doesn't make me cringe, and it's nice to see it noticed. Maybe that way, more movies will do it that way.
What, you beleive the claims of the plaintif on a lawsuit? They'd claim the price that they had skywritten over every major city in the US plus Des Moines is confidential so they can procede with their SLAPP.
It might or might not be true, but don't try to claim that ignoring their claim is a bad idea...
Luckaly, they published their page. I'm not bound by their terms of service unless I sign it. The web is a library. A huge collection of 'books' to browse around in. Just because one of the books says 'if you read this, you must yell at the top of your lungs 'Drugs are bad!'' doesn't mean I have to do it. Amazon's 'terms of service' MIGHT be considered to apply at the moment you make a purchace, as that's part of a sales agreement. But just looking? No way.
This is a LOT more clear-cut than shrink-wrap, and that's been shot down a number of times.
I have a feeling this is because the House of Lords can make fun of each other (My Lord, respectfully, you are an idiot - stuff like that is OK, as I recall). If you can releive stress instead of needing to be unfailingly polite to the idiots who disagree with you, then when you start discussing it, you're not so tense you won't even listen.
That's what I'm saying, though... If you agree to the EULAo (o=original), you can make a backup copy.
Take your backup copy, install from there. Agree to the EULAc. EULAc gives you the right to make a backup copy... It's not a shrink-wrap licence, it's an 'agree on install' licence (just easier to say the other way).
Of course, you could also realize the whole thing was a joke.:)
Well, your backup copy is a copy, with it's own EULA. Install from there, and agree to the EULA, and you're authorized to make one backup copy of your CD... which happens to be a backup copy.
"Next we have the sexual criminals... (stuff cut)...No, not those people. The rapists and child molesters... those hopeless romantics. We could just ban religion, and those crimes would go away in a generation or two, but we don't have time for rational solutions"
"We need to see proof of insurance, and a signed waiver. And the 2 Doctor's opinions stating that it's ok."
'I just want some fries!'
'No waiver, no fries.'
It's stupid, really... But that seems to be the way we're heading.
And BTW, who determines what's safe and what's not? PETA? ('Drink Beer, not Milk!') Republicans (i.e. Dad)? ('Go ahead and have another cigarette, they're good for you!') Democrats (i.e. Mom)? ('No, that's not good for you... No, that's... no... no... Drop the chocolate! Bad citizen!') Companies? ('Ask your doctor if Prozac is right for you!*' *no, we're not going to tell you what it does, but you want it anyway, right?)
All of the above? ('That's right, go ahead, smoke the tofu... we spent $20 million to be sure it has ABSOLUTLY NO EFFECT on you whatsoever!')
Ah, but the accounting overhead is on the individual companies, and therefore, on the consumer, not the state. So why should they care? (hint: think like a politician, not a rational human being)
"I agree with this kind of tax that same way I agree with taxes on cigarettes and liquor."
So do I. Of course, I strongly disagree with your position. Why? Your 'the state pays for health care' doesn't hold water, as you live in the US (no state health care).
It's just a classic case of the usual crap. "I don't like what you're doing, so I'll be sanctimonious and tax/ban it."
Ummm... why not use the shuttle method? 3 monitors, take a poll to determine of something needs to be rebooted. If all 3 agree, that's easy. If 2 agree, reboot the problem app, then reboot the 3rd monitor, and reboot the one of the other 2 as it comes back online. (so you have 3 fresh monitor programs)
Actually, it's just legislating things because a very small subset of people can't handle it.
Hell, if this passes, I won't be able to drive through New Jersey in the spring/summer. The pollen makes me cough (badly enough that I end up not being able to see sometimes), and the only way to prevent it is to drink a bit of soda every once in a while to keep my throat wet.
Meanwhile, I've been stuck behind a woman on the highway, doing 65, putting on makeup. I wish I had gotten there while she was doing lipstick... Wait, wait... HONK! Extra points for each inch of lipstick smeared on her face.
The problem with Venus is the 400 degree acid in the atmosphere. Making very light (for space travel), corrosion resistant, temperature resistant analytical equipment is difficult to say the least. I know, it's hard enough without the heat and weight specifications, I design earth-bound analytical equipment...
And don't forget that you need to worry about the cold/heat cycles as you're traveling. And temperature cycling is a great way to make cracks... and cracks form a very nice place for corrosion to start. Plus heat doesn't go well with electrical equipment.
Not trying to say that it can't be done, just what the basic list of problems is.
First year, copyright filing fee is $1000. Second year, $2000. Third year, $4000. Half a mil at 10 years. $524 mil at 20. I think that'll work out nicely, don't you? Inflation adjusted, of course... Just in case.
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Right. That was, after all, my point. Someone, somewhere, will need to define community service. And once you do, the problems begin.
I'm saying that what happens if you say 'community service required', and someone goes to a pro-life rally. A lot of people will complain, saying that's political, and against the community. If it ends up being allowed (it's a moral issue, so we can't interfere sort of thing) than what's to stop some idiot like Phelps from taking his 'God hates Fags' rallys and calling them community service? As soon as you define it, the problems start, and it has to be defined in some way, otherwise inviting the local kids over for a Mortal Kombat tournament would be CS. Actually, that might be a good idea... but you should be able to see what I mean.
I believe community service, as a 'punishment', is generally related to the crime. Work in a rehab clinic for a drug conviction, etc., right? Regardless, the courts are defining it... and people have successfully sued to get service changed because it was against their beliefs and the judge wouldn't change it (as I recall, Moore is famous for this).
Not really a choice at all, is it? Just like 'don't smoke pot, or go to jail'. Just like drug tests. Ever think about not taking a job because they can't be bothered to respect your privacy? Guess what... you're not going to work for anyplace aside from retail (maybe). I don't do drugs (because they're illegal... Heinlein: "Most males have an unhealthy tendency to obey laws"), but I got very annoyed every time I was asked to leave a sample.
Now, add in what is defined as community service. Volunteering at a church might be... or it might not be. Depends on whether they're willing to accept other religious possibilities (If you accept that, how about pro-life rallies sponsored by a church? Probably considered community service by the church, right? Take that a step further, and look up 'Phelps' and see why this might be a problem). And if you're not accepting that, why not?
I know people who wouldn't donate to the united way because of its abortion support. But it was essentially required where my mother worked if you wanted to get above non-management. Is that a good thing? Of course not.
Community service, political action, etc. should be separate from work. If some workplace makes all their employees go to a political rally, they'd be killed in the press. And CS is the same sort of thing.
The problem with that is that you've completely reversed cause and effect. People aren't motivated, because the company sees people as 'Human Resources'. I was told in my second performance review 'Most people here work more than 40 hours a week. If you want to do well, you have to work over 50.' I imagine a lot of people will look at that and say 'only 50?!'... Well, guess what? That sounds a lot like the company could care less who is shoved into the 'engineer' slot. So why should I care about it's opinion, hmm?
Lack of consideration is just a two way street, that's all. The companies started it, employees are just going with the flow.
Send an e-mail to your production contact who won't give you information, his boss, your boss, and CC yourself. Say something like 'I require the install locations, search paths available, etc. etc. in order to test the system adequately before deployment. Without this data, the system cannot be tested fully, and bugs will (not can) result. I request your immediate attention to this.'
Resend this e-mail at the beginning of testing, urgent priority. If you use outlook, it puts a neat little red ! next to the e-mail.
When the code goes out, use the same e-mail headers, containing a copy of the code and this e-mail, with the note 'Information required was not provided by production. This code should be regarded as Beta code, not production quality, due to lack of response from production.' For added effect, CC marketing and/or sales, depending on your workplace.
Note that I'm assuming the friendly way has been repeatedly tried, otherwise this is excessive. I had to do this a grand total of once. It hasn't happened again.
Problem in the article: First, the movie is probably set 700 years or so in the future. (based on the conversation at the end of the movie with the guy with the white beard... close as I can get w/out spoilers). Not ACE 2199. Or alternatly, the movie is set in early 21st century (the Matrix's 'present'.
Other than that, it's nice to see a hacking sequence that doesn't make me cringe, and it's nice to see it noticed. Maybe that way, more movies will do it that way.
It might or might not be true, but don't try to claim that ignoring their claim is a bad idea...
This is a LOT more clear-cut than shrink-wrap, and that's been shot down a number of times.
Sorry. I've heard so much about this I feel like turning into a giant lizard and blasting the local Japanese restaurant with nuclear fire.
Oh, is that some kind of copyright infringement?
I have a feeling this is because the House of Lords can make fun of each other (My Lord, respectfully, you are an idiot - stuff like that is OK, as I recall). If you can releive stress instead of needing to be unfailingly polite to the idiots who disagree with you, then when you start discussing it, you're not so tense you won't even listen.
Take your backup copy, install from there. Agree to the EULAc. EULAc gives you the right to make a backup copy... It's not a shrink-wrap licence, it's an 'agree on install' licence (just easier to say the other way).
Of course, you could also realize the whole thing was a joke. :)
You fool! That saying isn't about sex.
Check to see if they thought of that.
Oh! IANAL.
"God damn it!" "Nah, it's not worth my time." probably was the exchange with the best odd looks at the end of it.
Of course, then people say "Z, you're not god." I tend to respond with "But I have the same effect on reality... none."
"Next we have the sexual criminals... (stuff cut) ...No, not those people. The rapists and child molesters... those hopeless romantics. We could just ban religion, and those crimes would go away in a generation or two, but we don't have time for rational solutions"
Oh, I sure as hell hope they do that.
"But, we didn't mean it to apply to our copyrighted stuff, just other people's!"
Or, what's good for the goose...
I have.
'I just want some fries!'
'No waiver, no fries.'
It's stupid, really... But that seems to be the way we're heading.
And BTW, who determines what's safe and what's not? PETA? ('Drink Beer, not Milk!') Republicans (i.e. Dad)? ('Go ahead and have another cigarette, they're good for you!') Democrats (i.e. Mom)? ('No, that's not good for you... No, that's... no... no... Drop the chocolate! Bad citizen!') Companies? ('Ask your doctor if Prozac is right for you!*' *no, we're not going to tell you what it does, but you want it anyway, right?)
All of the above? ('That's right, go ahead, smoke the tofu... we spent $20 million to be sure it has ABSOLUTLY NO EFFECT on you whatsoever!')
Ah, but the accounting overhead is on the individual companies, and therefore, on the consumer, not the state. So why should they care? (hint: think like a politician, not a rational human being)
So do I. Of course, I strongly disagree with your position. Why? Your 'the state pays for health care' doesn't hold water, as you live in the US (no state health care).
It's just a classic case of the usual crap. "I don't like what you're doing, so I'll be sanctimonious and tax/ban it."
Ummm... why not use the shuttle method? 3 monitors, take a poll to determine of something needs to be rebooted. If all 3 agree, that's easy. If 2 agree, reboot the problem app, then reboot the 3rd monitor, and reboot the one of the other 2 as it comes back online. (so you have 3 fresh monitor programs)
Hell, if this passes, I won't be able to drive through New Jersey in the spring/summer. The pollen makes me cough (badly enough that I end up not being able to see sometimes), and the only way to prevent it is to drink a bit of soda every once in a while to keep my throat wet.
Meanwhile, I've been stuck behind a woman on the highway, doing 65, putting on makeup. I wish I had gotten there while she was doing lipstick... Wait, wait... HONK! Extra points for each inch of lipstick smeared on her face.
You mean it's not making money? Damn, and I thought EOS was a good simulation. :(
And don't forget that you need to worry about the cold/heat cycles as you're traveling. And temperature cycling is a great way to make cracks... and cracks form a very nice place for corrosion to start. Plus heat doesn't go well with electrical equipment.
Not trying to say that it can't be done, just what the basic list of problems is.
First year, copyright filing fee is $1000. Second year, $2000. Third year, $4000. Half a mil at 10 years. $524 mil at 20. I think that'll work out nicely, don't you? Inflation adjusted, of course... Just in case.
And just think how much cooler your origami math will be...