I'm sorry, what does "truth" have to do with "I don't like it".
Which is what you're proposing.
I wouldn't want to take away personal responsibility due to the absence of free will. However, without any evidence of true free will, I can't say I find it valid.
I can't take anyone seriously that would say:
"In fact, since in quantum mechanics the observer plays an important role in measurement"
That is not a fact.
Most of the pain and *weirdness* from interpretations of QM comes from an assumed free will of the human observer. John Bell talks about this and has used the term "superdeterminism" to explain a universe where even us, the human observer, lacks true free will.
No, I'm not being weird myself or "out there". I just have no reason to believe our choices follow different rules then an apple falling from a tree. It is a assumption that *obviously* some sort of metaphysical free-will exists in humans that has led to much of the *weirdness* of QM. The kitten is only dead or alive because of *human free will* being assumed.
It's time to stop creating more problems by pretending we're special. There's no proof of it so science shouldn't be considering it.
ADA, Ada, or though waived by every shop on base. That was also over 10 years ago for me. OMG wow! I didn't capitolize something properly, the horror.
Seriously, how much of a prick do you have to be to write what you just wrote in the manner you wrote it?
ADA ADA ADAADA ADA ADA ADA ADA ADA ADA ADA ADA
I hope that made your eyes bleed.
When I was writing software for the USAF we were required to use ADA. I worked at the USAF's largest software factory. No one there used ADA for anything.
So to me the announcement means nothing. Military doesn't always eat it's own dog food.
I've never understood why you can watch someone get shot in a drama in prime time, someone could say something like "I'd like to put a fork into your eyeball" in prime time, yet a single word like the F-Bomb can't be said?
What is the actual purpose of "bad" words? Why not just consider that bad words don't exist and everyone can say any word they want and we just not "have a cow" over it?
Seems to me we're taught to take exception to the words. It's a learned behavior. How about just not learning it in the 1st place?
Look up "superdeterminism".
Amazingly, most of the pain and *weirdness* from interpretations of QM comes from an assumed free will of the human observer.
John Bell talks about this and has used the term "superdeterminism" to explain a universe where even us, the human observer, lacks true free will.
Spooky action at a distance is explainable in a universe that is 100% predetermined. But physicists for years have been assuming human free will for their explainations of what QM tells us.
So while you say "What exactly do you think you have proved with by observing that in an identical world, things would be identical?"
I reply, no one's proved anything, but amazingly that very obvious statement has escaped the physics world for decades.
And please, realize that true determinism has *never* been disproven. Amazingly, every time we've read that, it's always been under the assumption that the human observer *has* true free will. In which case the rest of the universe acts oddly. Remove that assumption and everything falls in line.
The dark side of moon still gets sunlight. The moon is tidal locked with the Earth so we always see the same side of the moon but that does not mean that the part we can't see isn't still receiving sunlight.
And of course we could put a telescope on the moon. But that's a lot more work then just putting something into orbit. Putting something in orbit removes the whole part of dealing with a landing and unloading and setting up of the telescope.
Plus, while in orbit as mentioned you can keep something in darkness the entire time, where even on the moon you can't (well, you can potentially in a crater on the south pole or something, but it's still harder to do then just putting it in orbit).
No, when you *read* LotR it is a tale full of magic and conflict and excitement.
I didn't say the entire land was, or how often the people that have it would use it while sitting on their poarch and nothing was going on, which was how you *tried* to correct me.
Hence my point that I don't want to be background_charachter_01. You kind of took what I wrote the wrong way.
Exactly. When SWG came out, I truely questioned the decision to place the game into a known timeline. KotOR, while a completely different type of game, showed what was possible when given dramatic license in a known universe. Parts of the world
SWG, at it's launch, removed the one lone aspect of the SW that would have allowed for a good game. Namelt, the Force.
I see similar issues with this LotR game. I tried it, but wasn't captivated. The lack of class variety, due to the game trying to hold onto the ideals of the time and place of the story around it, leaves much to be desired. If I play a LotR game, I want to be Gandalf. I don't want to be background_character_01 which is what the game forces you to be even though it does weave your toon into the tale.
When you read LotR it's a tale full of magic and conflict and excitement. When you play this game, it's a game of 1000 dwarves with swords and no magic.
Much like SWG removing the force, they've taken magic out of the game to hold true to the story and in the end it ruined the game for me.
Apple is competitive on price-- the low-end just doesn't go as low.
False. Go build a $1200 system at Apple and Dell. These prices aren't secret. At Apple you get a 1.8 duo with 512 megs of RAM, 17" monitor, etc.. At Dell that gets you a 2.8 duo with a Gig of RAM and a 19" monitor. Most of the other crap is the same. A few differences here or there. But that is certainly not competitive when consider to get the equivalent at Dell you upping the cost at Apple several hundred dollars.
You wrote a totally false statement and repeated that statement several times with made up facts. And the people that modded you up didn't even bother to fact check before doing so.
But it sadly won't work.
I'd much rather politicans spend time arguing over something like this that does not matter, then have them spend time figuring out new ways to tax us, to limit our freedoms, to wage war (OK, he's Canadian, maybe this one doesn't apply), and to spend our tax money.
Oh, that Mr. Hellyer is a sly fellow indeed.
Hopefully, we can get it going down here in the States.
The fact that spending half that amount on a new video card will give you graphics that the 360 will never be able to, should not be overlooked.
No, your problem that is that is not a fact. In fact, that is wrong. The complete 360 is actually $400, not $500. And half that is $200. $200 buys a x800 Pro. The x800 Pro is not near as powerfull as the ATI card inside the 360. In fact, to get one as powerfull, you're basically paying $300. Which, my gawd, is the price of the 360 without the harddrive. I should'nt have to do your research for you.
Also consider, how many of these people, standing in line, with $500 to dump on a 360, made the decision that you describe "Well, its either an Xbox 360, or a PC". I'm guessing none.
Wrong post. You obviously meant to write that in regards to the post I originally replied to and not my reply, correct? I mean. I'm not the one that brought "get a PC instead" into it.
Lets not gloss over another important point, the 360 is fixed in time. Upgrade CPU. Nope
Let's look at freaking cost. For the cost of ONE SINGLE UPGRADE of a CPU-Mobo-video card in the *mid-range* you buy a complete console.
When BF2 (or HL2 or whatever new game you like) came out, did you have to throw away your old PC to play it? I didn't
No. Just like when BF2 came out my Xbox and PS2 still played it.
But can we stop with this whole "you couldn't build a rig for less" garbage. It only plays out if that rig you built is all bound together in such a way that no changes are possible, ever.
No. Next time get your facts straight. The fact is a $300 console is cheaper then a computer upgrade of mobo-CPU + videocard worth playing games on. You buy it once and that's that. A computer you're spending more then $300 combined on a quality upgrade.
My current PC is a combination of about 4 different configurations from the last few years, swapping out parts as needed to keep up with the games I like.
And I'm 100% sure you would'nt be honest about total cost on your PC expenditures.
You know what is a fact? A console is a cheaper way to get high quality gaming. When they initially come out they are the equivalent of a high end gaming-PC but they cost much less.
For $500 you can get a midrange Mobo-CPU-RAM and Video-card. You still need a case and power supply, hard drive, CD-Rom/DVD drive, input devices, and OS. And yes, since we're talking about *games* you're going to be paying for that OS. I'm not even going to bother talking about *pirated* OS saving money, though if you want, there's a few more dollars saved if you don't pay for Windows.
OK, so you have that, I'll assume you have a monitor just as for a console I assume you have a TV. You're probably into the range of $700, and congrats, you've built yourself a mid-range gaming rig that most likely doesn't match the quality of the 360 or what the PS3 will. Your rig will also be outdated in a year or two. Sure, it'll still play the games. Just like the 360 and PS3 will. Just like the Xbox and PS2 do now. But you're not going to be running the current games in all the high-res texture, all graphical options on, big resolution. Let alone doing that for games in a year or two down the road.
I'm all for PC gaming. I play more on my PC then on my Xbox/PS2/Gamecube. And more then the 360 I'll eventually get. And the PS3 I'll eventually get. And Revolution I'll probably get. But the better bang for your buck if all you care about it games, are the consoles. Not the PC's. Hell, the sell you consoles at a loss, and you get games that have been optimized for a very specific set of hardware. The prices drop on them as the technology loses it's "cutting edge" factor. Just as video cards and CPU's do.
I often see hot girls make huge efforts to fit in with guys that are addicted to video-games. When the female actress in CSI was crying and said (paraphrasing), "You don't know what it's like. If you're not a gamer they don't care about you" to explain why she went along with the guys on their crime spree, nothing more true has ever been said. We live in a culture where hot women are forced to conform to the video game habits of young men. When I'm out at a bar or club I can't help but feel sorry for all the rejected hot young women I see. They just didn't have what it takes to conform to the gamers they so desperately want and they flock to bars in packs to drown their sorrows.
This is a major problem in America. Young women should not be forced to "fit it" with the gamers just to get some self-esteem. I don't know about you, but tonight when I'm out at the bar I'm going to make it my duty to help out some of these rejected non-gaming women.
For me, it's the getting it to run part. It doesn't give me enough information to make troubleshooting worth it.
Create projcet account and enter project URL they say? Ah, yes. But apparently there's some proxy issue since after doing so I get the "proxy configuration" screen. Well, isn't that interesting. Username, password, server and port for HHTP and SOCKS. Hmmm!
Gee, I wonder what I should put in there. I don't have anything to put in there. Apparently I'm the only idiot in the world that gets this screen and can't get past this. There's no reason I can think of that would have me get this. But alas, that is what it does.
I'm sure if I want to waste a few more hours with it I'll eventually get it. But this is just crap.
The difference between a $500C computer and the core XBox 360
is that the Xbox360 is going to be able to offer a lot more performance for games then what that $500C computer is going to give you. And mind you, we're really talking $300 and $400 USD, not $500C. So where's the premium? You couldn't build that system on your own for that cheap.
You're not going to touch a computer system that will give you comparable "oooomph" in the game world for that price. Go price a video card, mobo and cpu and ram, in the mid-upper performance range, and let me know when you can get them for $300. Don't come back with a 9700 Pro and Athlon 2600+ and tell me you've done it either. It's not on the same level. There's no premium. You're actually getting decent deals compared to comparable PC's when you buy consoles when they are fairley new.
And no one is shoving the hype down your throat. You *clicked* on the link to read this thread. There are three major consoles making companies in the world. Three. For a giant market. And one of those is releasing their newest kid on the black. This *is* a pretty big event. There should be some hype. The day people break into my house and force me to read threads about crap I don't care about is the day I'll agree something is being shoved down my throat.
Might I remind them politely that they can get a computer for the same price, and it can do games and everything else the XBox 360 can do
How did you get "insightfull" writing that?
You might as well have said for $50 you can go find an old C64.
No $500C computer is going to be able to come close to touching what you can get for the $300/$400 USD you're going to get with the Xbox2.
Some people do love the next-gen stuff.
Games like Madden 06 and PGR3 do look next-gen, albeit 1st-gen next-gen. It's technically a pretty big damn upgrade. And I'm looking forward to buying one. I certainly aint going to get anything looking close to that good on a computer. Not only could a $500C touch it in specs, developing for a specific arch. lets developers push it to the limits easier. There's a lot of things going for it. And games a huge enough industry now that a new release of a console is big news. You don't like it or want one, your call. But it's easy to understand why there's hype, and your assertions were not accurate.
I said the HD comparision was stupid, not the lack of HD. Of course the "bald" comparision is moronic. That's about as meaningfull as the color of the systems. I didn't detail or list every one of them or even attempt to just point out only the most obscene. I think it's obvious that the article is meant as a fluff piece, almost comical, probably just a filler piece with a few meaningfull bits thrown into the mix. It's why I called the submussion retarded. The article is what it is, but it certainly isn't news nor do I feel warranted a stand-alone submission.
And I don't think there's anything "apparently far superior" about the PS3. Sony's theoretical numbers do not impress me. I'd expect both next-gen systems to offer similar levels of graphics. I've seen charts and graphs up the wazoo showing this one vs that one and which is better and faster and memory and floating point and whatnot. I've seen Carmack say he believes the PS3 is marginally more powerfull yet he prefers that 360 because of the tools and ease of development. Neither appears to offer that much more then the other in terms of what real-world performance they'll offer.
I expect Xbox to continue to offer the more complete online service (though this is a personal preference based on the idealology used by the two companies).
And in the end what will make one better then the other is the games.
Listing fluffy similarities between two systems isn't "pretty scary". It's pretty easy to do when you set your standards for a similarity at such a meaninglessly low level.
OMG!! Both were white systems when the previous generations were black. Noooz!!!
Calling the PS3 "far superior at this point is rediculous. Mentioning "hi-def" when the Dreamcast was released before there was basically any hi-def sets in homes and when the PS3 is also supporting hi-def is moronic.
The article itself was so fluffy I can't believe it made it to the front page. But hey, if you didn't RTFA in this case it only takes aobut 20 seconds and there's lots of little pictures to help you out.
Can't we just go one day without a creation v. evolution thread?!
Are we supposed to not discuss certain topics because some people refuse to accept the overwhelming evidence when it conflicts with their presupposed biases?
I don't think so. This isn't evolution vs creationism. This is a science story. And that ignorant people prefer ignorance isn't reason to push science underground.
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I'm sorry, what does "truth" have to do with "I don't like it".
Which is what you're proposing.
I wouldn't want to take away personal responsibility due to the absence of free will. However, without any evidence of true free will, I can't say I find it valid.
I can't take anyone seriously that would say:
"In fact, since in quantum mechanics the observer plays an important role in measurement"
That is not a fact.
Most of the pain and *weirdness* from interpretations of QM comes from an assumed free will of the human observer. John Bell talks about this and has used the term "superdeterminism" to explain a universe where even us, the human observer, lacks true free will.
No, I'm not being weird myself or "out there". I just have no reason to believe our choices follow different rules then an apple falling from a tree. It is a assumption that *obviously* some sort of metaphysical free-will exists in humans that has led to much of the *weirdness* of QM. The kitten is only dead or alive because of *human free will* being assumed.
It's time to stop creating more problems by pretending we're special. There's no proof of it so science shouldn't be considering it.
Yes, because no other culture in the history of the world could have done a fucking thing if it wasn't for the Xian beliefs.
*rolleyes*
for I too am an asshole that believes freedom ends at the point where I don't like what someone does.
ADA, Ada, or though waived by every shop on base. That was also over 10 years ago for me. OMG wow! I didn't capitolize something properly, the horror.
Seriously, how much of a prick do you have to be to write what you just wrote in the manner you wrote it?
ADA ADA ADAADA ADA ADA ADA ADA ADA ADA ADA ADA
I hope that made your eyes bleed.
When I was writing software for the USAF we were required to use ADA. I worked at the USAF's largest software factory. No one there used ADA for anything.
So to me the announcement means nothing. Military doesn't always eat it's own dog food.
I've never understood why you can watch someone get shot in a drama in prime time, someone could say something like "I'd like to put a fork into your eyeball" in prime time, yet a single word like the F-Bomb can't be said?
What is the actual purpose of "bad" words? Why not just consider that bad words don't exist and everyone can say any word they want and we just not "have a cow" over it?
Seems to me we're taught to take exception to the words. It's a learned behavior. How about just not learning it in the 1st place?
Look up "superdeterminism".
Amazingly, most of the pain and *weirdness* from interpretations of QM comes from an assumed free will of the human observer. John Bell talks about this and has used the term "superdeterminism" to explain a universe where even us, the human observer, lacks true free will.
Spooky action at a distance is explainable in a universe that is 100% predetermined. But physicists for years have been assuming human free will for their explainations of what QM tells us.
So while you say "What exactly do you think you have proved with by observing that in an identical world, things would be identical?"
I reply, no one's proved anything, but amazingly that very obvious statement has escaped the physics world for decades.
And please, realize that true determinism has *never* been disproven. Amazingly, every time we've read that, it's always been under the assumption that the human observer *has* true free will. In which case the rest of the universe acts oddly. Remove that assumption and everything falls in line.
The dark side of moon still gets sunlight. The moon is tidal locked with the Earth so we always see the same side of the moon but that does not mean that the part we can't see isn't still receiving sunlight.
And of course we could put a telescope on the moon. But that's a lot more work then just putting something into orbit. Putting something in orbit removes the whole part of dealing with a landing and unloading and setting up of the telescope.
Plus, while in orbit as mentioned you can keep something in darkness the entire time, where even on the moon you can't (well, you can potentially in a crater on the south pole or something, but it's still harder to do then just putting it in orbit).
No, when you *read* LotR it is a tale full of magic and conflict and excitement.
I didn't say the entire land was, or how often the people that have it would use it while sitting on their poarch and nothing was going on, which was how you *tried* to correct me.
Hence my point that I don't want to be background_charachter_01. You kind of took what I wrote the wrong way.
Exactly. When SWG came out, I truely questioned the decision to place the game into a known timeline. KotOR, while a completely different type of game, showed what was possible when given dramatic license in a known universe. Parts of the world SWG, at it's launch, removed the one lone aspect of the SW that would have allowed for a good game. Namelt, the Force. I see similar issues with this LotR game. I tried it, but wasn't captivated. The lack of class variety, due to the game trying to hold onto the ideals of the time and place of the story around it, leaves much to be desired. If I play a LotR game, I want to be Gandalf. I don't want to be background_character_01 which is what the game forces you to be even though it does weave your toon into the tale. When you read LotR it's a tale full of magic and conflict and excitement. When you play this game, it's a game of 1000 dwarves with swords and no magic. Much like SWG removing the force, they've taken magic out of the game to hold true to the story and in the end it ruined the game for me.
Apple is competitive on price-- the low-end just doesn't go as low.
False. Go build a $1200 system at Apple and Dell. These prices aren't secret. At Apple you get a 1.8 duo with 512 megs of RAM, 17" monitor, etc.. At Dell that gets you a 2.8 duo with a Gig of RAM and a 19" monitor. Most of the other crap is the same. A few differences here or there. But that is certainly not competitive when consider to get the equivalent at Dell you upping the cost at Apple several hundred dollars.
You wrote a totally false statement and repeated that statement several times with made up facts. And the people that modded you up didn't even bother to fact check before doing so.
Except they don't use every letter of the alphabet. No Q, U, X, Y, or Z.
This is namned storm 27 for the Atlantic basin.
But it sadly won't work.
I'd much rather politicans spend time arguing over something like this that does not matter, then have them spend time figuring out new ways to tax us, to limit our freedoms, to wage war (OK, he's Canadian, maybe this one doesn't apply), and to spend our tax money.
Oh, that Mr. Hellyer is a sly fellow indeed.
Hopefully, we can get it going down here in the States.
The fact that spending half that amount on a new video card will give you graphics that the 360 will never be able to, should not be overlooked.
No, your problem that is that is not a fact. In fact, that is wrong. The complete 360 is actually $400, not $500. And half that is $200. $200 buys a x800 Pro. The x800 Pro is not near as powerfull as the ATI card inside the 360. In fact, to get one as powerfull, you're basically paying $300. Which, my gawd, is the price of the 360 without the harddrive. I should'nt have to do your research for you.
Also consider, how many of these people, standing in line, with $500 to dump on a 360, made the decision that you describe "Well, its either an Xbox 360, or a PC". I'm guessing none.
Wrong post. You obviously meant to write that in regards to the post I originally replied to and not my reply, correct? I mean. I'm not the one that brought "get a PC instead" into it.
Lets not gloss over another important point, the 360 is fixed in time. Upgrade CPU. Nope
Let's look at freaking cost. For the cost of ONE SINGLE UPGRADE of a CPU-Mobo-video card in the *mid-range* you buy a complete console.
When BF2 (or HL2 or whatever new game you like) came out, did you have to throw away your old PC to play it? I didn't
No. Just like when BF2 came out my Xbox and PS2 still played it.
But can we stop with this whole "you couldn't build a rig for less" garbage. It only plays out if that rig you built is all bound together in such a way that no changes are possible, ever.
No. Next time get your facts straight. The fact is a $300 console is cheaper then a computer upgrade of mobo-CPU + videocard worth playing games on. You buy it once and that's that. A computer you're spending more then $300 combined on a quality upgrade.
My current PC is a combination of about 4 different configurations from the last few years, swapping out parts as needed to keep up with the games I like.
And I'm 100% sure you would'nt be honest about total cost on your PC expenditures.
You know what is a fact? A console is a cheaper way to get high quality gaming. When they initially come out they are the equivalent of a high end gaming-PC but they cost much less.
For $500 you can get a midrange Mobo-CPU-RAM and Video-card. You still need a case and power supply, hard drive, CD-Rom/DVD drive, input devices, and OS. And yes, since we're talking about *games* you're going to be paying for that OS. I'm not even going to bother talking about *pirated* OS saving money, though if you want, there's a few more dollars saved if you don't pay for Windows.
OK, so you have that, I'll assume you have a monitor just as for a console I assume you have a TV. You're probably into the range of $700, and congrats, you've built yourself a mid-range gaming rig that most likely doesn't match the quality of the 360 or what the PS3 will. Your rig will also be outdated in a year or two. Sure, it'll still play the games. Just like the 360 and PS3 will. Just like the Xbox and PS2 do now. But you're not going to be running the current games in all the high-res texture, all graphical options on, big resolution. Let alone doing that for games in a year or two down the road.
I'm all for PC gaming. I play more on my PC then on my Xbox/PS2/Gamecube. And more then the 360 I'll eventually get. And the PS3 I'll eventually get. And Revolution I'll probably get. But the better bang for your buck if all you care about it games, are the consoles. Not the PC's. Hell, the sell you consoles at a loss, and you get games that have been optimized for a very specific set of hardware. The prices drop on them as the technology loses it's "cutting edge" factor. Just as video cards and CPU's do.
I often see hot girls make huge efforts to fit in with guys that are addicted to video-games. When the female actress in CSI was crying and said (paraphrasing), "You don't know what it's like. If you're not a gamer they don't care about you" to explain why she went along with the guys on their crime spree, nothing more true has ever been said. We live in a culture where hot women are forced to conform to the video game habits of young men. When I'm out at a bar or club I can't help but feel sorry for all the rejected hot young women I see. They just didn't have what it takes to conform to the gamers they so desperately want and they flock to bars in packs to drown their sorrows.
This is a major problem in America. Young women should not be forced to "fit it" with the gamers just to get some self-esteem. I don't know about you, but tonight when I'm out at the bar I'm going to make it my duty to help out some of these rejected non-gaming women.
What part is complicated?
For me, it's the getting it to run part. It doesn't give me enough information to make troubleshooting worth it.
Create projcet account and enter project URL they say? Ah, yes. But apparently there's some proxy issue since after doing so I get the "proxy configuration" screen. Well, isn't that interesting. Username, password, server and port for HHTP and SOCKS. Hmmm!
Gee, I wonder what I should put in there. I don't have anything to put in there. Apparently I'm the only idiot in the world that gets this screen and can't get past this. There's no reason I can think of that would have me get this. But alas, that is what it does.
I'm sure if I want to waste a few more hours with it I'll eventually get it. But this is just crap.
The difference between a $500C computer and the core XBox 360
is that the Xbox360 is going to be able to offer a lot more performance for games then what that $500C computer is going to give you. And mind you, we're really talking $300 and $400 USD, not $500C. So where's the premium? You couldn't build that system on your own for that cheap.
You're not going to touch a computer system that will give you comparable "oooomph" in the game world for that price. Go price a video card, mobo and cpu and ram, in the mid-upper performance range, and let me know when you can get them for $300. Don't come back with a 9700 Pro and Athlon 2600+ and tell me you've done it either. It's not on the same level. There's no premium. You're actually getting decent deals compared to comparable PC's when you buy consoles when they are fairley new.
And no one is shoving the hype down your throat. You *clicked* on the link to read this thread. There are three major consoles making companies in the world. Three. For a giant market. And one of those is releasing their newest kid on the black. This *is* a pretty big event. There should be some hype. The day people break into my house and force me to read threads about crap I don't care about is the day I'll agree something is being shoved down my throat.
Might I remind them politely that they can get a computer for the same price, and it can do games and everything else the XBox 360 can do
How did you get "insightfull" writing that? You might as well have said for $50 you can go find an old C64.
No $500C computer is going to be able to come close to touching what you can get for the $300/$400 USD you're going to get with the Xbox2.
Some people do love the next-gen stuff. Games like Madden 06 and PGR3 do look next-gen, albeit 1st-gen next-gen. It's technically a pretty big damn upgrade. And I'm looking forward to buying one. I certainly aint going to get anything looking close to that good on a computer. Not only could a $500C touch it in specs, developing for a specific arch. lets developers push it to the limits easier. There's a lot of things going for it. And games a huge enough industry now that a new release of a console is big news. You don't like it or want one, your call. But it's easy to understand why there's hype, and your assertions were not accurate.
I said the HD comparision was stupid, not the lack of HD. Of course the "bald" comparision is moronic. That's about as meaningfull as the color of the systems. I didn't detail or list every one of them or even attempt to just point out only the most obscene. I think it's obvious that the article is meant as a fluff piece, almost comical, probably just a filler piece with a few meaningfull bits thrown into the mix. It's why I called the submussion retarded. The article is what it is, but it certainly isn't news nor do I feel warranted a stand-alone submission.
And I don't think there's anything "apparently far superior" about the PS3. Sony's theoretical numbers do not impress me. I'd expect both next-gen systems to offer similar levels of graphics. I've seen charts and graphs up the wazoo showing this one vs that one and which is better and faster and memory and floating point and whatnot. I've seen Carmack say he believes the PS3 is marginally more powerfull yet he prefers that 360 because of the tools and ease of development. Neither appears to offer that much more then the other in terms of what real-world performance they'll offer. I expect Xbox to continue to offer the more complete online service (though this is a personal preference based on the idealology used by the two companies).
And in the end what will make one better then the other is the games.
Listing fluffy similarities between two systems isn't "pretty scary". It's pretty easy to do when you set your standards for a similarity at such a meaninglessly low level.
OMG!! Both were white systems when the previous generations were black. Noooz!!!
Calling the PS3 "far superior at this point is rediculous. Mentioning "hi-def" when the Dreamcast was released before there was basically any hi-def sets in homes and when the PS3 is also supporting hi-def is moronic.
The article itself was so fluffy I can't believe it made it to the front page. But hey, if you didn't RTFA in this case it only takes aobut 20 seconds and there's lots of little pictures to help you out.
I get radio for free. I can still bitch about the programming.
And for some it wasn't free. And in the end, it's still a for-profit.
Telling someone not to bitch is akin to saying "love it or leave it".
I'm not offering my opinion on the actual topic. I'm offering it on yours. And I didn't like it.
Can't we just go one day without a creation v. evolution thread?!
Are we supposed to not discuss certain topics because some people refuse to accept the overwhelming evidence when it conflicts with their presupposed biases?
I don't think so. This isn't evolution vs creationism. This is a science story. And that ignorant people prefer ignorance isn't reason to push science underground.
Support for XP will not drop the moment Longhorn hits the self. It will take a few years.
If there comes a time where there are features or fixes that you want are no longer available for XP, well then, there's your reason to upgrade.
And as others have mentioned, open source isn't really immune to this issue either.