So, just out of interest...a free player, without spyware...how are they supposed to make money to pay their developers?
hey, I hate spyware as much as the next guy, and actually, because I don't run windows, I don't see it...but these guys that give away software need to fund development some how (yes, I know free software blah blah...but a guy hacking code at night for the love of it is a world away from a corporation that answers to a board and shareholders).
How exactly did reality make it to a slashdot post...parent should be moded up so this blatent flaunting of the truth can be brought to everyones attention. From now on, please just stick to the fiction Sir.
As to why, if someone creates something, it should _ever_ have to go into the public domain? If I create/discover something...why shouldn't it be mine and my descendants for ever? (not flame baiting here...I'd be really interested in learning the finer points of this debate)
I'm flattered that you think my slashdot posts can be categorized as a 'great novel'...however, though I would love to agree with you, suspension of disbelief would be too great, even for my ego.
We see it here again actually a truth he believed about the world, I don't think that at all...(not to say I'm right or your wrong...but I have a completely different interpretation)...I think he was probably writing as a way to exercise some of the demons in his past, having gone through two different communist regimes. My interpretation is based on the different novels he produced over his career, and their conincidence with his situation in the regimes portayed in them. But that's just my opinion/interpretation. But bravo, I'm sure somewhere Mr Orwell is having a laugh that you just compared his lifes best work to a slashdot post.
I say get the guys that did temptation island to do the voting system
<voice type="radio" disposition="overexcited">
Lines are open right now boys and girls, to go to war with iraq, just sms 'war' to 1800 votenow...to say no to the war, and vote george bush out of the whitehouse, sms 'screw bush' to 1800 votenow
</voice>
How cool would it be...you screw up in govt, within 30 minutes you get your marching papers and the 'wildcard' entry gets a go.
By opening a communication with someone with that statement, aren't you violating some of the basic tenets of good and polite communication, and, thereby, being a little obtuse yourself?
And in regards to your interpretation of 1984...bravo, very intellectually sound, and a darn good read...however, it is just an interpretation...unless you were sitting next to george when he wrote it and asking his exact meaning, I fail to see how you can invalidate someone elses interpretation. Remember, the beauty of a great novel is that it can mean different things to different people.
ok...but in that case, is it not impossible to _prove_ they were open for sharing...for instance, if you have a purchased mp3 sitting on an unsecured ftp site, is that illegal, and if so, why....if so, why would putting a cd in an unlocked car not similarly be illegal. The same could be said of kazaa...you're using the network to share the files between two of your computers, while only listening to it on one at a time...if someone else uses this unsecure network, is it your fault?
I'm not flaming or crusading...I'm actually quite interested as to whether the above makes sense to other people, it seems like a logical defeat of the RIAA argument. (by the way, I'm not in the U.S., so I know very little about their laws)
How is the RIAA getting the information...I mean technically.
I read about how they release a subpoena on 'x' who downloaded 'y' songs. Now, what I want to know, is, apart from having a packet sniffer in sharman networks, how can they know what you download. Sure, they can interrogate your ports, if they've reverse engineered the fasttrack protocol then they can maybe list your songs...but how do they know how much your downloading, and how do they know that those songs are even music...they could be someone just f$#@ing with them.
And finally, I thought the fasttrack network operated on a PKI set up, with the heads of the network holding the keys. If so, how the hell are they even interrogating your system unless their also liscencing the keys...in which case, they would have to get them from the same guys that give you kazaa.
If anyone can shed some light on this it would be greatly appreciated
it's a sales tool...if it was an anti-theft system, the software would just stop working (which a lot of ppl seem to be wondering about why this isn't the case)...it's an easy sale...'buy a liscence, or we come after you'. In fact, I wonder what would happen if you said, 'fair enough, you caught me, I'll just stop using the cracked copy and won't buy the thing'...I imagine they don't get that response often and they'll probably fall off their chairs.
...I mean, those proletarians...they're not like us, they don't even use good speak, and certainly don't practice good thought. A tracking system can only be beneficial to the entire society. The proles are badly in need of some re-education by the Ministry of Love anyway.
now if you'll excuse me, I must go turn in my parents for being terrorist sympathizers.
Minister For Energy: We need to build some more reactors to power mother russia!
President: NUCLEAR POWER!!! NUCLEAR POWER!!!! Shit...after the cluster f%#$ you guys made of chernobyl you want me to let you back near nuclear power again? Are you high? I wouldn't let you near a nuclear power plant if it was located on the other side of the f%$#in moon budy!
He would not give details on how profitable his business was, but said it allowed him to keep a nice car and own a house.
So US$3.65 pa...just say that...I make 4 bucks U.S. a year...we gotta stop this guy, if he double his annual income, he'll be able to buy the north island...then he can do whatever he wants!
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So, just out of interest...a free player, without spyware...how are they supposed to make money to pay their developers?
hey, I hate spyware as much as the next guy, and actually, because I don't run windows, I don't see it...but these guys that give away software need to fund development some how (yes, I know free software blah blah...but a guy hacking code at night for the love of it is a world away from a corporation that answers to a board and shareholders).
why the hell are you worried about a tax debt...you already have a more effective arsenal than the NZ govt ever had.
Go on...you know you want to...
COOL!!!! how do I get accepted into this elite...no more stupid support calls...parent, I like you're thinking!
How exactly did reality make it to a slashdot post...parent should be moded up so this blatent flaunting of the truth can be brought to everyones attention. From now on, please just stick to the fiction Sir.
...meet flogging stick
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thanks...excellent answer
As to why, if someone creates something, it should _ever_ have to go into the public domain? If I create/discover something...why shouldn't it be mine and my descendants for ever? (not flame baiting here...I'd be really interested in learning the finer points of this debate)
I'm flattered that you think my slashdot posts can be categorized as a 'great novel'...however, though I would love to agree with you, suspension of disbelief would be too great, even for my ego.
We see it here again actually a truth he believed about the world, I don't think that at all...(not to say I'm right or your wrong...but I have a completely different interpretation)...I think he was probably writing as a way to exercise some of the demons in his past, having gone through two different communist regimes. My interpretation is based on the different novels he produced over his career, and their conincidence with his situation in the regimes portayed in them. But that's just my opinion/interpretation. But bravo, I'm sure somewhere Mr Orwell is having a laugh that you just compared his lifes best work to a slashdot post.
Obtuse: Characterized by a lack of intelligence or sensitivity: an obtuse remark.
Hmmm, looks like a pretty fitting use of the word to me...maybe I'd better go buy a dictionary and send it to you
I say get the guys that did temptation island to do the voting system
<voice type="radio" disposition="overexcited">
Lines are open right now boys and girls, to go to war with iraq, just sms 'war' to 1800 votenow...to say no to the war, and vote george bush out of the whitehouse, sms 'screw bush' to 1800 votenow
</voice>
How cool would it be...you screw up in govt, within 30 minutes you get your marching papers and the 'wildcard' entry gets a go.
Don't be obtuse.
By opening a communication with someone with that statement, aren't you violating some of the basic tenets of good and polite communication, and, thereby, being a little obtuse yourself?
And in regards to your interpretation of 1984...bravo, very intellectually sound, and a darn good read...however, it is just an interpretation...unless you were sitting next to george when he wrote it and asking his exact meaning, I fail to see how you can invalidate someone elses interpretation. Remember, the beauty of a great novel is that it can mean different things to different people.
FP -- Free Programming
Excellent information...exactly the kind of stuff I was after.
Thanks
Thanks :)
Thanks for your answer.
However it still leaves me wondering...how can this constitute a legal argument. There is no direct evidence of sharing, only circumstantial evidence?
Offering popular songs...surely that has to be some type of entrapment
Searching for songs by names...who's to say they're copyright material?
Unless they have something else, this seems like an extremely flawed legal case (IANAL)...am I missing something here?
ok...but in that case, is it not impossible to _prove_ they were open for sharing...for instance, if you have a purchased mp3 sitting on an unsecured ftp site, is that illegal, and if so, why....if so, why would putting a cd in an unlocked car not similarly be illegal. The same could be said of kazaa...you're using the network to share the files between two of your computers, while only listening to it on one at a time...if someone else uses this unsecure network, is it your fault?
I'm not flaming or crusading...I'm actually quite interested as to whether the above makes sense to other people, it seems like a logical defeat of the RIAA argument. (by the way, I'm not in the U.S., so I know very little about their laws)
How is the RIAA getting the information...I mean technically.
I read about how they release a subpoena on 'x' who downloaded 'y' songs. Now, what I want to know, is, apart from having a packet sniffer in sharman networks, how can they know what you download. Sure, they can interrogate your ports, if they've reverse engineered the fasttrack protocol then they can maybe list your songs...but how do they know how much your downloading, and how do they know that those songs are even music...they could be someone just f$#@ing with them. And finally, I thought the fasttrack network operated on a PKI set up, with the heads of the network holding the keys. If so, how the hell are they even interrogating your system unless their also liscencing the keys...in which case, they would have to get them from the same guys that give you kazaa.
If anyone can shed some light on this it would be greatly appreciated
And police reckon terror suspects and criminals could also be targeted more effectively.
yep...want anything to get through parliment...link it with terrorism
"Yes, that's right...we want to charge an extra $10 a year for dog licenses...we believe there is a link between dog owners and terrorism"
beowolf clustor of....cardiac patients?
it's a sales tool...if it was an anti-theft system, the software would just stop working (which a lot of ppl seem to be wondering about why this isn't the case)...it's an easy sale...'buy a liscence, or we come after you'. In fact, I wonder what would happen if you said, 'fair enough, you caught me, I'll just stop using the cracked copy and won't buy the thing'...I imagine they don't get that response often and they'll probably fall off their chairs.
...I mean, those proletarians...they're not like us, they don't even use good speak, and certainly don't practice good thought. A tracking system can only be beneficial to the entire society. The proles are badly in need of some re-education by the Ministry of Love anyway.
now if you'll excuse me, I must go turn in my parents for being terrorist sympathizers.
Minister For Energy: We need to build some more reactors to power mother russia!
President: NUCLEAR POWER!!! NUCLEAR POWER!!!! Shit...after the cluster f%#$ you guys made of chernobyl you want me to let you back near nuclear power again? Are you high? I wouldn't let you near a nuclear power plant if it was located on the other side of the f%$#in moon budy!
Minister For Energy: ummmmm, how 'bout mars?
President: yeah alright
He would not give details on how profitable his business was, but said it allowed him to keep a nice car and own a house.
So US$3.65 pa...just say that...I make 4 bucks U.S. a year...we gotta stop this guy, if he double his annual income, he'll be able to buy the north island...then he can do whatever he wants!
really?!?! seriously dude...get a joke