Brine? Brine means pickles? Pickles means Mars was (or still is) inhabited by a highly evolved race of cucumbers? Earthlings eat huge quantities of pickles on burgers? Meaning McDonald's could be considered a weapon of mass destruction? So now Mars will declare war, great, this is just what the economy needs...
Enderle is wrong, couldn't one person have posted that Rob is an idiot and ended this discussing immeditely.
And someone tell my phone, mouse, keyboard, Palm and iBook G4 Bluetooth is dead. What a fool, his laptop goes VROOOM? Who cares...
I would tend to agree, and if you have seen the "smart tagging" stuff they have been embedding into the last couple versions of Office it becomes clear it won't take much effort to....
1. Get the average users hooked on what appears to be an amazing convenience. I type an email in Outlook or Messenger asking Suzy the red headed club foot in accounting if she would like to meet me for coffe after work. Office hits MSN search and pulls up the Coffee keyword, sees Starbuck's has paid it's bill this month and embeds a coupon and a map to this closest Starbucks in your email with one click. Only those who can afford to pay MSN search rates will be able to play.
2. Influence other companies to not use Google for search or advertising since MS can simply discount any rival to death.
What I find most amazing is that there will be people in this discussion who won't see anything but MS trying to "compete" and not get left behind again, but with 90% plus of the desktop and browser market that would simply be impossible. The only reason MS wants in so bad is to dominate search, not participate or remain competitive. MS still hasn't gotten it's core business right (Windows security anyone??) and now they want to bring their shoddy workmanship and lowered expectations to search?
But MS has the cash to wait out anyone and then try to "MSN-ize" net searching, do you really want some marketing spin dork in Redmond deciding what is relevant for Net searches? Google makes money off of search but they make clear what is an advertisement and what is a result based on relevance, will Yahoo and MS do this? Doubtful. MS leaks an interest in owning Google or developing it's own search technology, Yahoo panics and starts pumping out a "new" search technology to replace Google as their search technology, and the marketing campaign to marginalize Google with Windows users has begun.
MS might be late as always, but when have the much cash you show up whenever you damn well please.
Microsoft, for once your black touch came near something as simple and useful as Internet searches, everyone smelled blood and money in the water. Yahoo and anyone with a little cash will now try to turn searching into huge profits and advertising tie ins, it will become more difficult to do legitimate research, then we can have another round of dot.com funding, create another tech bubble and screw the industry up some more. With both Linux and Mac OS X having proven themselves as outstanding alternatives to Windows I do wish more people would wake up to switching and start depleting Microsft's cash coffers a little, that way they coudn't move in and screw up other industries like smart phones, gaming and now search engines. And if you don't see the tie-in between Yahoo's actions and Microsft overtures toward search you are not paying attention.
Steve Ballmer, if small buisness owner's have a couple hundred dollars left to advertise no Google then surely the MS licensing department hasn't been doing it's job. Look fora price hike in Office in the next couple days.
What nonsense, not one of those virus/worm/hacks wasn't preventable. Patches were available for each one long before anyone hatched an attack. So the real issue is lack of experience and knowledge of users, and those same users likely won't fair any better under the onerous complexity of Linux. I have yet to be hacked/infected/attacked on any Windows system I administer, and yes, it's difficult to keep up, but it's not impossilbe. Homeland Security issues their alerts more as public pressure toward MS than any kind of real threat.
Just where is MS going? Your not putting forth that whole "death of shrink wrap software and the end of intellectual property as we know" stuff are you? Oh wait, I'm at/. , or course you are. MS isn't going any where for a long time, because unlike T.Rex, MS can control the environment far more than you give it credit.
Well it would have been celebrated front page news if it were MS having this issue, so it seems fitting to me. Some days the Peoples Repulbic of Slashdot is jam packed with double standards.
Bullshit, Apple products are over priced. I have owned Macs, the fit and finish isn't nearly as nice as everyone makes it out to be, and the prices are grossly out of line. And we aren't talking about cars, which is the weakest ananlogy everyone trots out with consumer electronics and computers. Put an iMac next to a Dell 8xxx series and compare the parts people actually use. The Dell wins hands down. Who gives an F about the case, it's nice to see some improved design, but give me a break. Same goes for the iPod, if you can give me the same functions but it looks a little less "cool" I'm all over it. That's the whole problem with the Apple crowd, it's all about being seen and having that air that you were smart enough to buty the "better" platform. Fucking smug assholes, and hell yes it's flamebait, you dumb ass mods have at it.
I would rather have functions and money in my pocket than "design" and a long term loan to pay for a tech toy. As always, while really nice and a beautiful total package, it is all grossly over priced.
until you want to run Peachtree or a real Office suite, and since Java is such a pig, I can't believe performance is worht a damn on anything but beefy hardware. Another Sun bomb on deck.
on the cutting edge of 1997. Hackers are distributing exploits across the Internet to take advantage of a highly publicized MS vulnerability? Who passed them this information, Homeland Security?
being all pleased with my 2gHz Celeron laptop I just got. I know there's a market for this, but it really strikes as just marketing to piss on AMDs 64bit parade (kind of like how nVidia always conveniently had a new Deotonator release that would boost performance 29% every time ATI released a new card, back when nVidia was on top performance).
I work at a VAR/Consulting firm, not national, but large. We all came in this morning and were introduced to our new "hired gun" who was a Cisco expert, but could easily do any of our jobs (yadda, yadda, yadda). It was kind of a funny combination because she had a smoking body but a face that would curdle milk on proximity, but I digress. Anyway, when they went around the room she kind of snickered when she was introduced to my group (MS Enterprise support, shut up, not all MS admins suck and I push Linux where it fits), and was more than a little smug.
Well, I just left the client site she went to this morning, because she got booted when her personal laptop (that she insisted she had to have because it was better than company issue) running Windows ME (???) was pumping out trojans and mass mailing worms by the dozen. The first mail she sent was to the clients director outlining what was wrong with his security, and it popped his NAV client instantly. The client is smaller but has been around for a while, so we are giving him some free labor and all appears to be forgiven (since we did implement a solid patching and anti-virus system for them last year), but it goes without saying we are embarassed.
Wonder how much Russ would charge her for that, and I hope she doesn't have a job in the A.M.
Courtney Love say all this and more in that Salon interview a couple years ago? And what did it get her except cut lose from her record contract?
We all know what the obivous answer is, just like we all know things like big government squanders our tax dollars and the Patriot Act is used to subvert due process. The problem is that we have to act as a group, put aside our self interest for an indefinite period, to force the change.
If the artist stop releasing new "product" for the RIAA to push and only play live to make a living, if music buyers stop making any purchases until prices drop/product improves/delivery methods change, and if pirates stop downloading for a week (call it a proclaimed week of silence) to let the music industry know that we get it, that might at least get their attention. It's tough to kill a bloated, greedy monster of this size.
is there any confirmation beyond the Sunday Scotsman? Second, Ford is killing their Unix stuff in favor of Linux? So why does MS care again? Sure, it would have been a nice win on the server side, and I'm glad to see it happening, but aren't some of us getting a little too excited about this?
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My last company brought in a bunch of H1Bs and then started beating on us overpaid locals. The top notch Oracle DBA they brought in blamed all of our application issues on Windows 2000 and XP, said we would be better off using Windows ME. And our top tier Unix guy accidentally (???) changed the password to the PIX and forgot it after making a change that broke the inbound pipe for the VPN concentrator. And the sad part was management decided to "ride it out" because eventually they would learn and they were so much cheaper.
I'm not to worried, keep your skills up and know what you are doing and you will find work. There will be a backlash against H1Bs and offshoring, regardless of what Gartner says.
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Brine? Brine means pickles? Pickles means Mars was (or still is) inhabited by a highly evolved race of cucumbers? Earthlings eat huge quantities of pickles on burgers? Meaning McDonald's could be considered a weapon of mass destruction? So now Mars will declare war, great, this is just what the economy needs...
Enderle is wrong, couldn't one person have posted that Rob is an idiot and ended this discussing immeditely. And someone tell my phone, mouse, keyboard, Palm and iBook G4 Bluetooth is dead. What a fool, his laptop goes VROOOM? Who cares...
1. Get the average users hooked on what appears to be an amazing convenience. I type an email in Outlook or Messenger asking Suzy the red headed club foot in accounting if she would like to meet me for coffe after work. Office hits MSN search and pulls up the Coffee keyword, sees Starbuck's has paid it's bill this month and embeds a coupon and a map to this closest Starbucks in your email with one click. Only those who can afford to pay MSN search rates will be able to play.
2. Influence other companies to not use Google for search or advertising since MS can simply discount any rival to death.
What I find most amazing is that there will be people in this discussion who won't see anything but MS trying to "compete" and not get left behind again, but with 90% plus of the desktop and browser market that would simply be impossible. The only reason MS wants in so bad is to dominate search, not participate or remain competitive. MS still hasn't gotten it's core business right (Windows security anyone??) and now they want to bring their shoddy workmanship and lowered expectations to search?
But MS has the cash to wait out anyone and then try to "MSN-ize" net searching, do you really want some marketing spin dork in Redmond deciding what is relevant for Net searches? Google makes money off of search but they make clear what is an advertisement and what is a result based on relevance, will Yahoo and MS do this? Doubtful. MS leaks an interest in owning Google or developing it's own search technology, Yahoo panics and starts pumping out a "new" search technology to replace Google as their search technology, and the marketing campaign to marginalize Google with Windows users has begun. MS might be late as always, but when have the much cash you show up whenever you damn well please.
Microsoft, for once your black touch came near something as simple and useful as Internet searches, everyone smelled blood and money in the water. Yahoo and anyone with a little cash will now try to turn searching into huge profits and advertising tie ins, it will become more difficult to do legitimate research, then we can have another round of dot.com funding, create another tech bubble and screw the industry up some more. With both Linux and Mac OS X having proven themselves as outstanding alternatives to Windows I do wish more people would wake up to switching and start depleting Microsft's cash coffers a little, that way they coudn't move in and screw up other industries like smart phones, gaming and now search engines. And if you don't see the tie-in between Yahoo's actions and Microsft overtures toward search you are not paying attention.
Steve Ballmer, if small buisness owner's have a couple hundred dollars left to advertise no Google then surely the MS licensing department hasn't been doing it's job. Look fora price hike in Office in the next couple days.
What nonsense, not one of those virus/worm/hacks wasn't preventable. Patches were available for each one long before anyone hatched an attack. So the real issue is lack of experience and knowledge of users, and those same users likely won't fair any better under the onerous complexity of Linux. I have yet to be hacked/infected/attacked on any Windows system I administer, and yes, it's difficult to keep up, but it's not impossilbe. Homeland Security issues their alerts more as public pressure toward MS than any kind of real threat.
Must -- loosen -- tin -- foil -- cap!
Well it would have been celebrated front page news if it were MS having this issue, so it seems fitting to me. Some days the Peoples Repulbic of Slashdot is jam packed with double standards.
Well since the high end PIVs already smoke AMD, I would say yes.
Bullshit, Apple products are over priced. I have owned Macs, the fit and finish isn't nearly as nice as everyone makes it out to be, and the prices are grossly out of line. And we aren't talking about cars, which is the weakest ananlogy everyone trots out with consumer electronics and computers. Put an iMac next to a Dell 8xxx series and compare the parts people actually use. The Dell wins hands down. Who gives an F about the case, it's nice to see some improved design, but give me a break. Same goes for the iPod, if you can give me the same functions but it looks a little less "cool" I'm all over it. That's the whole problem with the Apple crowd, it's all about being seen and having that air that you were smart enough to buty the "better" platform. Fucking smug assholes, and hell yes it's flamebait, you dumb ass mods have at it.
Try there is no, Goo, or Goo not...
I would rather have functions and money in my pocket than "design" and a long term loan to pay for a tech toy. As always, while really nice and a beautiful total package, it is all grossly over priced.
Whatever you say there sparky, the iPod would sell like mad if the price wasn't so silly, the Dell MP3 player will be everywhere.
of music, get used to it http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=71 1&ncid=711&e=9&u=/usatoday/20030923/tc_usatoday/11 865096
until you want to run Peachtree or a real Office suite, and since Java is such a pig, I can't believe performance is worht a damn on anything but beefy hardware. Another Sun bomb on deck.
on the cutting edge of 1997. Hackers are distributing exploits across the Internet to take advantage of a highly publicized MS vulnerability? Who passed them this information, Homeland Security?
Easy, Microsoft didn't do anything today, the RIAA didn't issue any new dumb press releases and SCO ran out of people to sue.
being all pleased with my 2gHz Celeron laptop I just got. I know there's a market for this, but it really strikes as just marketing to piss on AMDs 64bit parade (kind of like how nVidia always conveniently had a new Deotonator release that would boost performance 29% every time ATI released a new card, back when nVidia was on top performance).
Well, I just left the client site she went to this morning, because she got booted when her personal laptop (that she insisted she had to have because it was better than company issue) running Windows ME (???) was pumping out trojans and mass mailing worms by the dozen. The first mail she sent was to the clients director outlining what was wrong with his security, and it popped his NAV client instantly. The client is smaller but has been around for a while, so we are giving him some free labor and all appears to be forgiven (since we did implement a solid patching and anti-virus system for them last year), but it goes without saying we are embarassed.
Wonder how much Russ would charge her for that, and I hope she doesn't have a job in the A.M.
We all know what the obivous answer is, just like we all know things like big government squanders our tax dollars and the Patriot Act is used to subvert due process. The problem is that we have to act as a group, put aside our self interest for an indefinite period, to force the change.
If the artist stop releasing new "product" for the RIAA to push and only play live to make a living, if music buyers stop making any purchases until prices drop/product improves/delivery methods change, and if pirates stop downloading for a week (call it a proclaimed week of silence) to let the music industry know that we get it, that might at least get their attention. It's tough to kill a bloated, greedy monster of this size.
is there any confirmation beyond the Sunday Scotsman? Second, Ford is killing their Unix stuff in favor of Linux? So why does MS care again? Sure, it would have been a nice win on the server side, and I'm glad to see it happening, but aren't some of us getting a little too excited about this?
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My last company brought in a bunch of H1Bs and then started beating on us overpaid locals. The top notch Oracle DBA they brought in blamed all of our application issues on Windows 2000 and XP, said we would be better off using Windows ME. And our top tier Unix guy accidentally (???) changed the password to the PIX and forgot it after making a change that broke the inbound pipe for the VPN concentrator. And the sad part was management decided to "ride it out" because eventually they would learn and they were so much cheaper.
I'm not to worried, keep your skills up and know what you are doing and you will find work. There will be a backlash against H1Bs and offshoring, regardless of what Gartner says.
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