I have not idea how credible "ain't it cool news" is, but this article mentions a rumor of more filming next year for the extend edition of ROTK. I'll continue to hope until I see review from a reliable source that its not included in the EE.
BTW, was anyone slightly bugged that the "homage" to the scouring in FOTR showd samwise as a prisoner? In the book, the hobbits returned to the shire to mop up the floor with the bad guys. None of the 4 were taken prisoner.
1. Riiiiiight. Using an OOP language to write server side objects != coding. Real coders only write in the language of choice of the AC I'm responding to.
2. I mentioned the platform because I thought it was cool that an attractive woman knew her way around a unix box. Typically the coding was done through emacs on solaris or linux. AFAIK, the only platform dependant problems the said company ran into was the old problem of needing X to get a graphics context to dynamically generate images, which has long since been fixed.
That's what i thought. In my experience I've worked with some really geeky programmers. At just under 30, I'm still one of the youger guys in my office and I don't wear high-waters or a pocket protector. Never really had all that much trouble with the ladies either. So i figured that a guy can be a non-nerd and still be technical. I did however think that every female programmer I ever met was a complete geek.
Then it happened... I went to a college buddy's office to pick him up for lunch one day. Then out of nowhere an incredibly hot black chick pulls up on Harley Davidson, jumps off her bike and walks into the office. I ask my buddy who that was, turns out she was a java programmer doing server side coding for linux and solaris.
Moral of the story: Programmer does not equal nerd. Programmers are just people that like coding and know that there can be good money it.
The manufacturers will add alot more than their own cost to the final price.
Twenty five bucks on the manufacturer's Bill of Materials may not sound like much, but they are likely in business to make money. Small changes in B.O.M. mean large changes in MSRP.
Do your communist judges see it that way when you steal from other chinese people, or does that just apply to stealing from people not living in a third world country?
10 to 40 workstations is nothing I run minimum 150 worstations per server in this fashion and to top that I use failover clustering as well.
There's nothing stopping anyone from attaching that many terminals to an LTSP server or server cluster. In fact many other people are doing just that. There will only be about 60 on the server I set up, because that's all there is room for in the school.
LTSP is cool but dealing with nic drivers, video drivers, remote nfs home, dhcp, the LTSP config stuff etc is a pain in the arse and is a bunch of work and complexity just so you can run without a disk.
Not sure where this is coming from. I simply put a bootable NIC in an old workstation, disconnect the old hard drive, and things just work. The only time I have to configure a workstation is if it has an old ISA soundcard, and that's just a couple of lines in lts.conf. I'm still using ltsp 3, but I heard this has gotten much simpler in version 4. Just curious, are you able to get sound to work on your thin clients?
My prefered platform for new thin clients is a mini-itx with a 32 meg compact flash. This setup boots in under 15 seconds, is read only, runs on 17 watts, and costs only 185 bucks per system.
That sounds like a really cool setup. I wish the school I volunteer for had that kind of money. I spend about 10 to 30 bucks per workstation depending on whether I need a bootrom for an existing NIC or just buy a new NIC with a rom. I think if I had an extra 150 bucks for each one, I'd buy flatscreens for them.
As for LTSP good luck, I have done many linux terminal based installs but I do not use LTSP as it is to complex and hard to maintain.
Strange, I've had the exact opposite experience with regards to LTSP.
Linux is great run locally, but modern GUIs don't run so well on the junk hardware that most privately funded schools have. A year ago I decided to give K12LTSP a chance and set up a small server + 3 terminals to demo to my son's school board. Those that understood the tehnology were impressed. So this past summer I purchased a better server and connected the lab's 25 terminals (junk Pentium 90s/120s) to it. Runs like a champ, and we are rolling out 4 terminals to each class room.
The head of the school district of about 25 schools caught wind of it and came down for a look see. They were very very impressed, and would like to roll it out big time.
LTSP is indeed a complex piece of software, but K12LTSP makes it much simpler.
The only one voice of opposition tried to make a point that in the "real world" people are using MS software, so that's what the students should learn. When I told him what it would cost us to use a MS solution he decided to give open office and mozilla a chance. He's more than happy with the system now.
Remeber that students need to learn concepts, not brand loyalty or even zealotry. Today's First graders would do well to learn typing and word processing. You can be sure that when they enter the workforce in 15 to 20 years, the current MS windows/office offerings will be irrelevant.
If you can't find what you're looking for on one of the CDs of documentation, chances are pretty good its already on the technet site. If its not, open a TAR. Your correspondence with them will become part of the site as further documentation.
The Oracle 11i apps are also well documented. I know for a fact that you can get CDs full of documentation that even cover the schemas for things like GL,AR, AP, Order managment and so on. You may need an accounting degree to understand it all, but it doesn't make the documentation poor.
BTW, I'm no oracle fanboy by any means. The products and support are great, but you have to pay through the nose for it.
Yes, he did have a big part--and they've already shown the shire being torn apart in the Mirror of Galadriel. A bit late to cut him out now!
Its been said many times but I'll say it again. In the EE of fellowship, Peter Jackson mentioned that there wouldn't be a scouring of the shire. That scene was basically just an homage to that part of the story. What I don't get about it is that in the mirror Samwise looks like he's a slave getting whipped. In the book, Sam never was a hostage or slave to the bad guys in the shire. Sam, Frodo, Merry, and Pippin came home, rounded up the other hobbits and kicked ass.
But back to the topic. I agree with you, there was plenty wasted space in the movies that could better be used for some closure on Sauraman's character.
I know its a popular to slam Bakshi's version as it did look like a bad acid trip. I did however think the nazgul in his version were just a little scarier, and they are still the ones in my mind when I read the books.
The rest of the characters were pretty goofy looking. The hobbits all looked like Nicholas from Eight is Enough. Legolas looked like Shaggy from Scooby Doo. And I'm not sure what the hell Bakshi was thinking when he put together the Balrog, or the Tusken Raider/Orcs.
Nothing compares to the abomniation that was the animated Return of the King. Gotta get "Frodo of the nine fingers and the ring of doom" out of my head.
This guy's article is utter crap. Phillip Greenspun is either a moron or nothing more than a common troll.
JSP is fantastically simpler than "J2EE"
J2EE is a collection of java techonologies which includes JSP, not a single development paradigm. JSP can be used in a model-view-controller as a view or used to write simple stand-alone applications.
After researching how to do bind variables in Java (see the very end of http://philip.greenspun.com/internet-application-w orkbook/software-structure), which turns out to be much harder and more error-prone than in 20-year-old C interfaces to relational databases
Riiiight... Because there is only one way to do this in Java.
First off this is not an inherent problem to Java, but a problem of developer implementation. Prepared statements are only one way to communicate with databases. You can create your SQL any way you'd like and even bind parameters yourself an then execute a regular Statement.
This is all moot anyways if you plan on teaching students what the real power of using an Object-Oriented language. Most people that have to do this sort of thing for a living would have a bstracted the database layer into objects that thier view is using. The actual method of database connectiving is not irrevelant, but certainly not a hindrance to productivity.
A project done in Java will cost 5 times as much
Good thing he provided research to back that up... Oh wait a minute, he was just trolling again. 5 times more expensive? Hmmm.. apache/tomcat is free. Eclipse is free. You can pull down an SDK from Sun for free. Well maybe he meant that it will take 5 times a long and of course time=money. Nope. He said that it will "take twice as long ". Confusing logic to say the least.
None of the extra power of Java is useful when the source of persistence is a relational database management system such as Oracle or SQL Server.
Sure buddy, tell that to Oracle. Oracle happens to use Java for its business applications. Applications based on Relational databases is where Java excels. The java language isn't the reason, its what is being done with Java in the real world that matters. There are plenty of tools some free some not, that take databases with referential integrity constraints to build objects (JavaBeans, EJBs, JDO, Torque, whatever) with child-parent releation ships and automatic persistence.
Its really a shame that this guy is allowed to teach at MIT. Here's an idea: how about teaching students to use the right tool for the job? He should leave the zealotry at home unless he could back it up something more than an uninformed tirade or a ridiculous apples-to-oranges comparison with an even more idiotic analogy.
Maybe because just calling something "superior" than something else is generally considered a flame? Whereas providing specific examples of why its better is usually moderated as insightful or interesting.
Didn't we just see a slashdot that gnome 2.4 does this? And its not vaporware.
from XML scripted modular installs
Not sure what the big deal is here. I think you mean XML for configuring modular installs. XML is not a scripting language. For some reason many people seem to think if something has XML in it it must be really advanced. Loki_update used XML 4 years ago for its installer. wow.
Maybe in another five years, KDE will finally catch up.
Hmmm.. strange logic there. If Windows is adding so many revolutionary new features, its kinda of strange that it wouldn't have its own new offering in 5 years.
Fry's Electronics sells a 179$ box with linux preloaded. Comes with a modem, speakers, and everything else except the monitor. Just wish it came with Redhat or Mandrake or Suse or something other than "Thiz Linux".
I use it, and I like it. 'cuz it doesn't require a java installer
What does that have to do with anything?
Oracle installations are generally well.. Huge. There are tons of configuration options to choose from. The wanted a nice cross platform GUI to help simplify the install process across all their applications (the database, business apps, app servers) Java was a good choice. Their installer comes with a JRE so its not like you even have to install Java before hand.
One more thing, if you'd rather not have a java GUI for the install, the installer can fall back to character mode.
Slashdot Mirror
Well, not 100% anyway.
I have not idea how credible "ain't it cool news" is, but this article mentions a rumor of more filming next year for the extend edition of ROTK.
I'll continue to hope until I see review from a reliable source that its not included in the EE.
BTW, was anyone slightly bugged that the "homage" to the scouring in FOTR showd samwise as a prisoner? In the book, the hobbits returned to the shire to mop up the floor with the bad guys. None of the 4 were taken prisoner.
1. Riiiiiight. Using an OOP language to write server side objects != coding.
Real coders only write in the language of choice of the AC I'm responding to.
2. I mentioned the platform because I thought it was cool that an attractive woman knew her way around a unix box. Typically the coding was done through emacs on solaris or linux. AFAIK, the only platform dependant problems the said company ran into was the old problem of needing X to get a graphics context to dynamically generate images, which has long since been fixed.
That's what i thought.
In my experience I've worked with some really geeky programmers. At just under 30, I'm still one of the youger guys in my office and I don't wear high-waters or a pocket protector. Never really had all that much trouble with the ladies either. So i figured that a guy can be a non-nerd and still be technical.
I did however think that every female programmer I ever met was a complete geek.
Then it happened... I went to a college buddy's office to pick him up for lunch one day. Then out of nowhere an incredibly hot black chick pulls up on Harley Davidson, jumps off her bike and walks into the office.
I ask my buddy who that was, turns out she was a java programmer doing server side coding for linux and solaris.
Moral of the story: Programmer does not equal nerd.
Programmers are just people that like coding and know that there can be good money it.
The manufacturers will add alot more than their own cost to the final price.
Twenty five bucks on the manufacturer's Bill of Materials may not sound like much, but they are likely in business to make money.
Small changes in B.O.M. mean large changes in MSRP.
hehehe...
He doesn't know how to use the three sea shells.
Just curious, what are you streaming it to?
Software on another PC?
what client software?
That was obviously not directly aimed at incal(original poster). Last time i checked china wasn't dealing in Euros.
I Just making the point that being poor doesn't give you a different set of rules.
So its ok for poor people to steal? WTF?
Do your communist judges see it that way when you steal from other chinese people, or does that just apply to stealing from people not living in a third world country?
10 to 40 workstations is nothing I run minimum 150 worstations per server in this fashion and to top that I use failover clustering as well.
There's nothing stopping anyone from attaching that many terminals to an LTSP server or server cluster. In fact many other people are doing just that. There will only be about 60 on the server I set up, because that's all there is room for in the school.
LTSP is cool but dealing with nic drivers, video drivers, remote nfs home, dhcp, the LTSP config stuff etc is a pain in the arse and is a bunch of work and complexity just so you can run without a disk.
Not sure where this is coming from.
I simply put a bootable NIC in an old workstation, disconnect the old hard drive, and things just work.
The only time I have to configure a workstation is if it has an old ISA soundcard, and that's just a couple of lines in lts.conf.
I'm still using ltsp 3, but I heard this has gotten much simpler in version 4.
Just curious, are you able to get sound to work on your thin clients?
My prefered platform for new thin clients is a mini-itx with a 32 meg compact flash. This setup boots in under 15 seconds, is read only, runs on 17 watts, and costs only 185 bucks per system.
That sounds like a really cool setup. I wish the school I volunteer for had that kind of money.
I spend about 10 to 30 bucks per workstation depending on whether I need a bootrom for an existing NIC or just buy a new NIC with a rom. I think if I had an extra 150 bucks for each one, I'd buy flatscreens for them.
As for LTSP good luck, I have done many linux terminal based installs but I do not use LTSP as it is to complex and hard to maintain.
Strange, I've had the exact opposite experience with regards to LTSP.
Linux is great run locally, but modern GUIs don't run so well on the junk hardware that most privately funded schools have.
A year ago I decided to give K12LTSP a chance and set up a small server + 3 terminals to demo to my son's school board. Those that understood the tehnology were impressed. So this past summer I purchased a better server and connected the lab's 25 terminals (junk Pentium 90s/120s) to it. Runs like a champ, and we are rolling out 4 terminals to each class room.
The head of the school district of about 25 schools caught wind of it and came down for a look see. They were very very impressed, and would like to roll it out big time.
LTSP is indeed a complex piece of software, but K12LTSP makes it much simpler.
The only one voice of opposition tried to make a point that in the "real world" people are using MS software, so that's what the students should learn.
When I told him what it would cost us to use a MS solution he decided to give open office and mozilla a chance. He's more than happy with the system now.
Remeber that students need to learn concepts, not brand loyalty or even zealotry.
Today's First graders would do well to learn typing and word processing. You can be sure that when they enter the workforce in 15 to 20 years, the current MS windows/office offerings will be irrelevant.
FUD.
If you can't find what you're looking for on one of the CDs of documentation, chances are pretty good its already on the technet site. If its not, open a TAR. Your correspondence with them will become part of the site as further documentation.
The Oracle 11i apps are also well documented. I know for a fact that you can get CDs full of documentation that even cover the schemas for things like GL,AR, AP, Order managment and so on. You may need an accounting degree to understand it all, but it doesn't make the documentation poor.
BTW, I'm no oracle fanboy by any means. The products and support are great, but you have to pay through the nose for it.
Yes, he did have a big part--and they've already shown the shire being torn apart in the Mirror of Galadriel. A bit late to cut him out now!
Its been said many times but I'll say it again. In the EE of fellowship, Peter Jackson mentioned that there wouldn't be a scouring of the shire. That scene was basically just an homage to that part of the story.
What I don't get about it is that in the mirror Samwise looks like he's a slave getting whipped. In the book, Sam never was a hostage or slave to the bad guys in the shire. Sam, Frodo, Merry, and Pippin came home, rounded up the other hobbits and kicked ass.
But back to the topic. I agree with you, there was plenty wasted space in the movies that could better be used for some closure on Sauraman's character.
I agree MySQL is easy to set up and administer.
Works out the box with red-hat 9 and webmin.
But MySQL is lacking two key features that many ERP systems use: Sequences and Views.
Sequences should be very easy to add, not sure why this hasn't been done already.
Views might be more difficult, but are extremely usefull.
There's no webserver in WS.
Hmmm... if only there was a website where you could download a free webserver that would work on linux.
Yeah, giving us Open Office and a fast JVM for linux. The bastards...
Though, Im not exactly sure how it works, the LTSP clients that I've set up have sound working through the network.
Apparently 3 and a half hours, give or take a minute.
I know its a popular to slam Bakshi's version as it did look like a bad acid trip. I did however think the nazgul in his version were just a little scarier, and they are still the ones in my mind when I read the books.
The rest of the characters were pretty goofy looking. The hobbits all looked like Nicholas from Eight is Enough. Legolas looked like Shaggy from Scooby Doo. And I'm not sure what the hell Bakshi was thinking when he put together the Balrog, or the Tusken Raider/Orcs.
Nothing compares to the abomniation that was the animated Return of the King.
Gotta get "Frodo of the nine fingers and the ring of doom" out of my head.
I'd love to see a phantom edit of The Two Towers where most of the gimli jokes get axed.
With the exception of maybe the part about the dwarf women, the rest of the gimli comic releif was completely unnecessary.
This guy's article is utter crap. Phillip Greenspun is either a moron or nothing more than a common troll.
w orkbook/software-structure), which turns out to be much harder and more error-prone than in 20-year-old C interfaces to relational databases
JSP is fantastically simpler than "J2EE"
J2EE is a collection of java techonologies which includes JSP, not a single development paradigm. JSP can be used in a model-view-controller as a view or used to write simple stand-alone applications.
After researching how to do bind variables in Java (see the very end of http://philip.greenspun.com/internet-application-
Riiiight... Because there is only one way to do this in Java.
First off this is not an inherent problem to Java, but a problem of developer implementation.
Prepared statements are only one way to communicate with databases. You can create your SQL any way you'd like and even bind parameters yourself an then execute a regular Statement.
This is all moot anyways if you plan on teaching students what the real power of using an Object-Oriented language. Most people that have to do this sort of thing for a living would have a bstracted the database layer into objects that thier view is using. The actual method of database connectiving is not irrevelant, but certainly not a hindrance to productivity.
A project done in Java will cost 5 times as much
Good thing he provided research to back that up... Oh wait a minute, he was just trolling again.
5 times more expensive? Hmmm.. apache/tomcat is free. Eclipse is free. You can pull down an SDK from Sun for free.
Well maybe he meant that it will take 5 times a long and of course time=money. Nope. He said that it will "take twice as long ". Confusing logic to say the least.
None of the extra power of Java is useful when the source of persistence is a relational database management system such as Oracle or SQL Server.
Sure buddy, tell that to Oracle. Oracle happens to use Java for its business applications.
Applications based on Relational databases is where Java excels. The java language isn't the reason, its what is being done with Java in the real world that matters.
There are plenty of tools some free some not, that take databases with referential integrity constraints to build objects (JavaBeans, EJBs, JDO, Torque, whatever) with child-parent releation ships and automatic persistence.
Its really a shame that this guy is allowed to teach at MIT.
Here's an idea: how about teaching students to use the right tool for the job? He should leave the zealotry at home unless he could back it up something more than an uninformed tirade or a ridiculous apples-to-oranges comparison with an even more idiotic analogy.
Maybe because just calling something "superior" than something else is generally considered a flame?
Whereas providing specific examples of why its better is usually moderated as insightful or interesting.
adding complete vector scaling
Didn't we just see a slashdot that gnome 2.4 does this? And its not vaporware.
from XML scripted modular installs
Not sure what the big deal is here.
I think you mean XML for configuring modular installs. XML is not a scripting language.
For some reason many people seem to think if something has XML in it it must be really advanced. Loki_update used XML 4 years ago for its installer. wow.
Maybe in another five years, KDE will finally catch up.
Hmmm.. strange logic there. If Windows is adding so many revolutionary new features, its kinda of strange that it wouldn't have its own new offering in 5 years.
Not Just wal-mart.
Fry's Electronics sells a 179$ box with linux preloaded.
Comes with a modem, speakers, and everything else except the monitor.
Just wish it came with Redhat or Mandrake or Suse or something other than "Thiz Linux".
They released the 8.1.7 discs before the pentium 4 came out. There has been a fix out for some time now.
I use it, and I like it. 'cuz it doesn't require a java installer
What does that have to do with anything?
Oracle installations are generally well.. Huge. There are tons of configuration options to choose from. The wanted a nice cross platform GUI to help simplify the install process across all their applications (the database, business apps, app servers) Java was a good choice.
Their installer comes with a JRE so its not like you even have to install Java before hand.
One more thing, if you'd rather not have a java GUI for the install, the installer can fall back to character mode.