Most people don't realize that the same problem exists in Windows either. Generic Windows display drivers barely work and games are impossible to play (let alone more then 256 colors) without getting the correct driver from the manufacture.
Just because the PC came preinstalled with the correct drivers and settings, it doesn't mean it worked that way without someone having to do something
Generic DRI drivers might not be the best, but they are light years better then Generic Windows Drivers...
A one distro solution doesn't mean anything when it is all driven by Cedega/Wine/WineX
The most something like that could accomplish would be tweaks to fix things that the distro may have broken.
The closest you will get right now is the Unofficial Transgaming Wiki page which mentions which version work better with what games and what tweaks maybe needed to get it to work.
The reason I heard that Unreal II wasn't ported was because it used an earlier version of the Unreal Warfare engine which would need to be re-written with later builds to make the ports.
The porters have no idea what the others do to the code and it could take years for a simple rewrite
There more then a few people that support Transgaming's work, but the anti-wine groups tend to be louder. I've been a subscriber for over 21 months and support their work, as it does NOT make companies not want to port to Linux. That is a decision usually made long before the product hits the shelves, ideally in the planning stage before any code is written.
Those that say company A won't port game B to Linux because it runs fine with Cedega are delusional and use that as an excuse. Transgaming is looked down on because they have "stolen the code" and "don't return their changes".
The GPL at the time of the WineX fork was completely within the rights and they do give back. They are also legally bound to not redistribute the copy protection code, other then that all the code of freely available in their CVS.
If you don't like it, don't use it as we don't need to hear the same hallow excuses over and over again. All the 'proof' I've seen has been bogus and nothing but more ranting (someone with your same argument doesn't count as proof).
Those drivers are from the community, not Intel. Read the beginning of both pages: no documentation.
Did you stop reading at the beginning of the page also? I'd guess you didn't notice who the site and project manager is? James Ketrenos jketreno@linux.intel.com
I'll assume that he doesn't work for Intel then and has hijacked the domain and Intel does not have a Linux division at all?
The drivers themselves are a community effort, but the firmware is/has/will be made by Intel. The original driver codebase was released by James with Intel's blessing and I have seen many other Intel developers taking part in the development through the mail list
Of course, this is just for the wireless part...Centrino is a combination of 3 chipsets. The wireless is the most highlighted part because that's what the sheeple look for, the real truth is the Centrino is a combination of power saving features
Centrino details Intel® Pentium® M processor Mobile Intel® 915 Express chipset family or Intel® 855 chipset family Intel® PRO/Wireless Network Connection Family
I saw that, I thought I put a/sarcasm at the end of mine, but it went away somewhere:p
I thinks it's more fun watching the whole 'until it's easier to use' arguments between the two fan clubs (MS vs Linux) anyway. I wonder, do any of them realize they are trolls and/or feeding the trolls?
A car cuts me off on my way to work and the first thought that goes thru my mind is to run them off the road... that cannot be good....
The thought is fine, it's when you decide to act on that thought is when it gets bad. There are hundreds of things I think about doing, but have enough of a grip on reality to know NOT to do them
The Computer never makes a mistake, such thinking is traitorous! Please report to the nearest termination terminal and remember, the Computer is your friend. Be happy or be deemed a traitor to the Computer you Commie mutant!
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[quote][i]I didn't realize that some folks like the repeats[/quote][/i]We like to call it, Syndication :)
You forgot "LudicrousBand"
I think it falls under the same rules that http://www.hackerslab.org/eorg/ uses
whatever those may be...offshore?
Sorry, let me reword that for you
:)
All the good Wing Commander games were sprite based
Most people don't realize that the same problem exists in Windows either. Generic Windows display drivers barely work and games are impossible to play (let alone more then 256 colors) without getting the correct driver from the manufacture.
Just because the PC came preinstalled with the correct drivers and settings, it doesn't mean it worked that way without someone having to do something
Generic DRI drivers might not be the best, but they are light years better then Generic Windows Drivers...
The original Privateer was sprite based like all the other Wing Commander games, this remake is 3D rendered
As the last poster said, are you using good 3d drivers for your card or are you on an ATI and using the kernels DRI drivers??
I've been playing the pre-1.0 release on Linux and have not seen what you described at all.
Anything without Gnome or KDE
Not sure if it exactly holds up to you standards, but...
Evolution with the Ximian-Connector has pretty good support for Exchange servers
A one distro solution doesn't mean anything when it is all driven by Cedega/Wine/WineX
The most something like that could accomplish would be tweaks to fix things that the distro may have broken.
The closest you will get right now is the Unofficial Transgaming Wiki page which mentions which version work better with what games and what tweaks maybe needed to get it to work.
The reason I heard that Unreal II wasn't ported was because it used an earlier version of the Unreal Warfare engine which would need to be re-written with later builds to make the ports.
The porters have no idea what the others do to the code and it could take years for a simple rewrite
There more then a few people that support Transgaming's work, but the anti-wine groups tend to be louder.
I've been a subscriber for over 21 months and support their work, as it does NOT make companies not want to port to Linux. That is a decision usually made long before the product hits the shelves, ideally in the planning stage before any code is written.
Those that say company A won't port game B to Linux because it runs fine with Cedega are delusional and use that as an excuse. Transgaming is looked down on because they have "stolen the code" and "don't return their changes".
The GPL at the time of the WineX fork was completely within the rights and they do give back. They are also legally bound to not redistribute the copy protection code, other then that all the code of freely available in their CVS.
If you don't like it, don't use it as we don't need to hear the same hallow excuses over and over again.
All the 'proof' I've seen has been bogus and nothing but more ranting (someone with your same argument doesn't count as proof).
Why stop at the commercial only ones (besides that's what he did ask for) when there are many very good free games available
Full Icculus Game List
put that escrow BACK!
Next year they'll ask for it back x2, at least
The latest ATI Linux driver from Monday has support for xorg-6.8 and works great.
The older drivers would crash on me in ut2004 with onslaught maps, this new driver hasn't crashed on me yet
James Ketrenos jketreno@linux.intel.com
I'll assume that he doesn't work for Intel then and has hijacked the domain and Intel does not have a Linux division at all?
The drivers themselves are a community effort, but the firmware is/has/will be made by Intel. The original driver codebase was released by James with Intel's blessing and I have seen many other Intel developers taking part in the development through the mail list
Of course, this is just for the wireless part...Centrino is a combination of 3 chipsets. The wireless is the most highlighted part because that's what the sheeple look for, the real truth is the Centrino is a combination of power saving features
Centrino details
Intel® Pentium® M processor
Mobile Intel® 915 Express chipset family or Intel® 855 chipset family
Intel® PRO/Wireless Network Connection Family
I saw that, I thought I put a /sarcasm at the end of mine, but it went away somewhere :p
I thinks it's more fun watching the whole 'until it's easier to use' arguments between the two fan clubs (MS vs Linux) anyway.
I wonder, do any of them realize they are trolls and/or feeding the trolls?
I know, maybe that's why it didn't suck?
There are hundreds of things I think about doing, but have enough of a grip on reality to know NOT to do them
Why use wine?
I've been working with Stanford on Protein Folding for a while...plus they support Windows, Linux AND MacOSX
Let us know when IBM decides to let the 'rest of us' in on their fun and maybe we'll join up...
The Computer never makes a mistake, such thinking is traitorous!
Please report to the nearest termination terminal and remember, the Computer is your friend.
Be happy or be deemed a traitor to the Computer you Commie mutant!