Two servers, names changed, both behind firewalls, both "less important" and "less exposed" (because EVERY *important* Internet-exposed server is going to be patched regulary, right?)
Windows 2000:
C:\uptime \\SERVERNAME has been up for: 132 day(s), 22 hour(s), 48 minute(s), 12 second(s)
in our financial world, users often have several spreadsheets open (deeply linked to other spreadsheets), Bloomberg, Outlook, several instances of IE, antivirus software and antispyware software running in the background... you get the idea.
the more memory and horsepower I can provide them, the better experience they have with their machines. and empirically it seems that underpowered machines crash more; they sure generate more support calls (app X is slooowwww!!!)
same goes for gigabit to the desktop; loading and saving files is quicker and those aforementioned linked spreadsheets also benefit from the big pipes...
IF one can afford it, and the load is heavy as is our case, every bit of power one can get helps...
Perhaps it's that a LOT of people are tired of how difficult it can be to set up Linux or how impossible it is to manage (keep virus/spyware/exploit-free) Windows...
OS X hits a sweet spot for a LOT of people, and the reasonably robust hardware makes for an overall solid widget (no pun intended).
Many might suggest Apple's package is the best computing experience around (right now) and that's what drives the hype.
Outside from enthusiasts (who are found in ANY niche), who the hell gives a darn what's inside a box, or what the label is? People just wanna send email, make toast, watch TV, etc...
Technologically, any *nix makes a better server than Windows and requires less administrative staff to accomplish the same tasks....
Go ahead, mod me flamebait or overrated.
How about instead we just ask you to justify those claims?
We've worked with Microsoft's $245/call service several times with obscure problems and two things to Microsoft's credit:
1) they never gave up on the problem 2) they came through with a fix (longest wait time was a really odd Office/Windows OpLock prob and we had a fix within 10 business days).
Man, I think MS is the devil as much as the next guy (Apple guy here, for reference), but I've put dollars up that they've refused to take.
Two of my Windows 2003 servers for this calendar year...
File server:
System Availability: 99.9786% Total Uptime: 316d 14h:11m:34s Total Downtime: 0d 1h:37m:29s Total Reboots: 21 Mean Time Between Reboots: 15.08 days Total Bluescreens: 0
Mail server:
System Availability: 99.9859% Total Uptime: 319d 15h:45m:56s Total Downtime: 0d 1h:4m:43s Total Reboots: 13 Mean Time Between Reboots: 24.59 days Total Bluescreens: 0
For a small biz, we'll take 99.97/98% uptimes and be DAMN glad about it! ;-)
I'm nobody's Windows fan either (OSX is my preferred), but the claims of wild instability need to be taken with a grain of salt, IMHO...
A house has a door lock that's poorly made. A burglar jiggles the handle and it falls off and the door opens. You can bet yer bippy that the lock manufacturer is gonna hear from the homeowner's lawyer(s).
playing that EVERY night for 1 hour starting at 5 PM.
I remember it had voice chat so you could taunt your buds.
I remember watching LanDesk's network bandwidth utilization go off the hook while we played.
And I remember a network tech with a sniffer one time asking "do you guys have a computer named Bitchslapper? It's using an awful lot of bandwidth!":-)
Man those were good times.
Lemme end by trolling and saying, as a Mac user, Bungie are sellouts. But I''ll always have a soft place in my heart for the original Marathon...
The folks at Hormel have asked that people spell the name correctly when referring to their meat product - in all capital letters, i.e. SPAM.
And the Kleenex people want you to stop calling tissue Kleenex and Xerox wants you to stopping calling photocopies Xeroxes and Slashdots wants the media to stop calling crackers hackers and RMS wants That Operating System called GNU/Linux...
You forgot about how Bungie are Teh 5uX0rz for selling out to Microsoft and bailing on the Mac after making themselves on that platform...
then why is it on/.?
So we can all argue about why it's being released on XBox, but not PC, extoll how much better it will be than D3, complain about the code not being OSS, point out miniscule contradictions in the screenshots, post mirrors, make jokes, argue about why it's being released on XBox, but not PC, extoll how much better it will be than D3, complain about the code not being OSS, point out miniscule contradictions in the screenshots, post mirrors, make jokes, argue about why it's being released on XBox, but not PC, extoll how much better it will be than D3, complain about the code not being OSS, point out miniscule contradictions in the screenshots, post mirrors, make jokes, bitch about dups, get off into some tangent about video cards, and make jokes.
Two servers, names changed, both behind firewalls, both "less important" and "less exposed" (because EVERY *important* Internet-exposed server is going to be patched regulary, right?)
Windows 2000:
C:\uptime
\\SERVERNAME has been up for: 132 day(s), 22 hour(s), 48 minute(s), 12 second(s)
Linux (Slackware 9.1):
SERVERNAME:~: uptime
13:19:51 up 218 days, 20:53, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
See, you can get good runtimes on anything when the conditions are right...
Did I prove anything? Nah...
there's linux joke in here somewhere... ;-)
but seriously, it does seem beta 2 is much more driver-challenged than the recent CTPs...
in our financial world, users often have several spreadsheets open (deeply linked to other spreadsheets), Bloomberg, Outlook, several instances of IE, antivirus software and antispyware software running in the background... you get the idea.
the more memory and horsepower I can provide them, the better experience they have with their machines. and empirically it seems that underpowered machines crash more; they sure generate more support calls (app X is slooowwww!!!)
same goes for gigabit to the desktop; loading and saving files is quicker and those aforementioned linked spreadsheets also benefit from the big pipes...
IF one can afford it, and the load is heavy as is our case, every bit of power one can get helps...
-=- mf
with research like this they could be onto a MAJOR Windows security breakthrough...
Perhaps it's that a LOT of people are tired of how difficult it can be to set up Linux or how impossible it is to manage (keep virus/spyware/exploit-free) Windows...
OS X hits a sweet spot for a LOT of people, and the reasonably robust hardware makes for an overall solid widget (no pun intended).
Many might suggest Apple's package is the best computing experience around (right now) and that's what drives the hype.
Outside from enthusiasts (who are found in ANY niche), who the hell gives a darn what's inside a box, or what the label is? People just wanna send email, make toast, watch TV, etc...
How about instead we just ask you to justify those claims?
-=- mf
I call BS.
We've worked with Microsoft's $245/call service several times with obscure problems and two things to Microsoft's credit:
1) they never gave up on the problem
2) they came through with a fix (longest wait time was a really odd Office/Windows OpLock prob and we had a fix within 10 business days).
Man, I think MS is the devil as much as the next guy (Apple guy here, for reference), but I've put dollars up that they've refused to take.
FUD you're speakin', I'd say...
NO WAY!
I hope to god that AOL adopts this distribution method!!!
;-)
Two of my Windows 2003 servers for this calendar year...
;-)
File server:
System Availability: 99.9786%
Total Uptime: 316d 14h:11m:34s
Total Downtime: 0d 1h:37m:29s
Total Reboots: 21
Mean Time Between Reboots: 15.08 days
Total Bluescreens: 0
Mail server:
System Availability: 99.9859%
Total Uptime: 319d 15h:45m:56s
Total Downtime: 0d 1h:4m:43s
Total Reboots: 13
Mean Time Between Reboots: 24.59 days
Total Bluescreens: 0
For a small biz, we'll take 99.97/98% uptimes and be DAMN glad about it!
I'm nobody's Windows fan either (OSX is my preferred), but the claims of wild instability need to be taken with a grain of salt, IMHO...
They don't WANT to lower prices...
"Dell discounted low-end products too aggressively"
They'll be happy if /.ers buy N systems -- extra $$$ for Dell!
The two need not be exclusive.
One slightly contrived example...
A house has a door lock that's poorly made. A burglar jiggles the handle and it falls off and the door opens. You can bet yer bippy that the lock manufacturer is gonna hear from the homeowner's lawyer(s).
the same stale joke
How about: "I wonder how many Grits Per Hour that thing can heat?"
Nope, guess that's no better...
... Math is hard ;-)
Consumer-friendly?
I have a Samsung 50" Plasma TV that went bad *3 days* after I bought it and their customer service couldn't have been WORSE.
Luckily for me, the reseller (Crutchfield) came through with for me with a brand new replacement and handled everything with the Samsung morons.
I personally will never buy Samsung again. Ugh.
playing that EVERY night for 1 hour starting at 5 PM.
:-)
I remember it had voice chat so you could taunt your buds.
I remember watching LanDesk's network bandwidth utilization go off the hook while we played.
And I remember a network tech with a sniffer one time asking "do you guys have a computer named Bitchslapper? It's using an awful lot of bandwidth!"
Man those were good times.
Lemme end by trolling and saying, as a Mac user, Bungie are sellouts. But I''ll always have a soft place in my heart for the original Marathon...
I have one of those Comcast HD DVRs and I can't get any of the recordings OFF of it to burn on to DVD (Red Sox playoff game I was at).
Why can't this be done?
Why is it such a pain to share material across devices?!?!
deleted his IE shortcuts!
Um, why not just import them?
n00Bs?
Oh wait. Never mind...
Remind me to tell my mother to start using Thunderbird and Firefox and install a firewall.
Sure. What was her email and IP address?
And the Kleenex people want you to stop calling tissue Kleenex and Xerox wants you to stopping calling photocopies Xeroxes and Slashdots wants the media to stop calling crackers hackers and RMS wants That Operating System called GNU/Linux...
Q: What do these all have in common?
A: Not gonna happen...
At first I thought prosco.com was for pros. co., as in "A Prosecuting Company". That about sums it up.
Nah... someone just typo'd and forgot the N after the first O...
then why is it on /.?
So we can all argue about why it's being released on XBox, but not PC, extoll how much better it will be than D3, complain about the code not being OSS, point out miniscule contradictions in the screenshots, post mirrors, make jokes, argue about why it's being released on XBox, but not PC, extoll how much better it will be than D3, complain about the code not being OSS, point out miniscule contradictions in the screenshots, post mirrors, make jokes, argue about why it's being released on XBox, but not PC, extoll how much better it will be than D3, complain about the code not being OSS, point out miniscule contradictions in the screenshots, post mirrors, make jokes, bitch about dups, get off into some tangent about video cards, and make jokes.
Someone has to cajole them into support. (We have a chicken-n-egg here, no doubt).
Without support for things like Bloomberg's Excel add-in, OpenOffice is MUCH less attractive than Excel, for example.
...that they changed the rules:
;-)
1) something
2) something
3) profit^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H
sorry - SOMEONE had to make that joke!
Only a complete idiot would take advantage of that offer.
Well, it DID say they were using a PC... ;-)