I absoloutely agree with parent. This tiny message (popup?) idea sounds stupid, not insightful. Those who are not on the internet a lot are never going to be willing to pay this fee you talk about, imho.
I have 2 adresses that I use daily. A hotmail account and a university account (see above - @hi.is), neither of which receive any spam to speak of. My university uses spamassassain, which misses about one email a month (I don't have it set very high), Thunderbird takes care of the rest. Recently Hotmail's filters have gone froma la-la to very strict, no spam in my account for months now.
I think internet-evolution will take care of spam someday. The filters will become so good that it won't be worth the effort to be a spammer. I also believe that the number of people falling for spam will decrease (but maybe not).
Here are some things that are missing from OOo that bug me:
*no track changes *not able to shrink all fonts in a single document at once (say, all by 30%) bullets and numbering not as easy to use (changing the bullet-style for each bullet level)
I posted this in reply to an earlier article involving mice in space, perhaps it will score more than 1 this time arround:
I suspect this is one of Brain's ideas to TAKE OVER THE WORLD (that's what they do every other night, why should said night be any different)
Here are some of Brain's schemes involving space (source: this site [usi-rpg.com]):
"Using my own patented Jimmy Brain technique, I have already succeeded in purchasing, with no money down, every apartment, condo, and office space on the planet above the 39th floor...We will alter the Hubbell Space Telescope so it concentrates the sun's rays on the ice caps, melting them...flooding the entire planet up to the 39th floor, thereby leaving me in control of the only usable real estate on earth."
"Tonight's plan involves space junk... There are hundreds of discarded satellites orbiting the earth... Tonight, as all the discarded satellites pass within mere miles of each other, I will manipulate the world's largest magnet to move them into position, spelling out 'Brain is your ruler'."
"Tonight's plan shall unfold in less than one half hour... Those wires I've hooked up to the lab surveillance camera run to a powerful forty megawatt uplink, which I have built from common household tin foil, a standard wire coat hanger, a number three salad fork, and that big pie plate from last Thanksgiving. With which I have located and stealthily tapped into an abandoned CM-2000 satellite orbiting our globe. This idle transmitter was yesterday but a floating piece of space flotsam, but now it is a workhorse. Broadcasting my infomercial to every man, woman, and child. Reaching the earth's entire population as we speak. Ye-ess!! I've compiled the ultimate list of advertising phrases, no one viewing this infomercial will be able to resist making a purchase. And once they've ordered our product, I'll be just a short step away from taking over the world!... Using my own modification of called-id technology, I have set up this massive computer to automatically answer the phone and store each caller's personal specifics. To keep the computer from overheating, I've hooked up an elaborate ten thousand gallon water cooling system... But the important puzzle piece of this plan... is to get everyone's address - the world's most complete mailing list, because everyone in the world will be on it. Then, we shall overload the global postal system, choking every single P.O. Box and mail slot with gross amounts of unwanted junk mail. The nuisance of it all will surely drive everyone mad. But, I shall be the savior - 'Put me in charge of your world, and I promise to remove each and everyone's name from all junk mail lists.' Jumping at the opportunity, people will only realize too late that I am their new, ever-powerful, and unimpeachable ruler."
Wrong. The openbsd people obviously included this "crash feature" just so that windows people could feel at home with OpenBSD. I think it's time for Windows folks to switch to OpenBSD.
I suspect this is one of Brain's ideas to TAKE OVER THE WORLD (that's what they do every other night, why should said night be any different)
Here are some of Brain's schemes involving space (source: this site):
"Using my own patented Jimmy Brain technique, I have already succeeded in purchasing, with no money down, every apartment, condo, and office space on the planet above the 39th floor...We will alter the Hubbell Space Telescope so it concentrates the sun's rays on the ice caps, melting them...flooding the entire planet up to the 39th floor, thereby leaving me in control of the only usable real estate on earth."
"Tonight's plan involves space junk... There are hundreds of discarded satellites orbiting the earth... Tonight, as all the discarded satellites pass within mere miles of each other, I will manipulate the world's largest magnet to move them into position, spelling out 'Brain is your ruler'."
"Tonight's plan shall unfold in less than one half hour... Those wires I've hooked up to the lab surveillance camera run to a powerful forty megawatt uplink, which I have built from common household tin foil, a standard wire coat hanger, a number three salad fork, and that big pie plate from last Thanksgiving. With which I have located and stealthily tapped into an abandoned CM-2000 satellite orbiting our globe. This idle transmitter was yesterday but a floating piece of space flotsam, but now it is a workhorse. Broadcasting my infomercial to every man, woman, and child. Reaching the earth's entire population as we speak. Ye-ess!! I've compiled the ultimate list of advertising phrases, no one viewing this infomercial will be able to resist making a purchase. And once they've ordered our product, I'll be just a short step away from taking over the world!... Using my own modification of called-id technology, I have set up this massive computer to automatically answer the phone and store each caller's personal specifics. To keep the computer from overheating, I've hooked up an elaborate ten thousand gallon water cooling system... But the important puzzle piece of this plan... is to get everyone's address - the world's most complete mailing list, because everyone in the world will be on it. Then, we shall overload the global postal system, choking every single P.O. Box and mail slot with gross amounts of unwanted junk mail. The nuisance of it all will surely drive everyone mad. But, I shall be the savior - 'Put me in charge of your world, and I promise to remove each and everyone's name from all junk mail lists.' Jumping at the opportunity, people will only realize too late that I am their new, ever-powerful, and unimpeachable ruler."
I so agree with you on the theme, it is the most disgusting pile of crap I've ever heard on TV. Personally I mute the TV while it plays (it's really long too), but then it plays in my head, and I have to run to the bathroom to throw up.
The show itself is not so bad if you've got nothing better to do with your time, IMO. Or maybe I just miss TNG and Voyager so much (I don't miss DS9), that it makes me immune to how crappy plotlines. As cmdrTaco points out,
well.. duuuuhh? Sorry, but I just hate these redundant "maybe this will be the turning point for winnig jane sixpack over", why is this an interesting post? Does anybody think this is something else then good for the community? Do you think that this will mean status quoe for the OSS community? I don't.
For those who are not all that fluent in english, introvert is a person who tends to shrink from social contacts and to become preoccupied with their own thoughts and extrovert is a person concerned more with practical realities than with inner thoughts and feelings (source: dictionary.com)
I think you're absoloutely right about the increase in stupidness.
My dad works for the Internal Revenue Service here in Iceland and they recently switched to StarOffice. How I pity the poor Administrators over there. From what I hear, everybody were given a free course to help them migrate from MSOffice, but noooo.. judging from what my dad said, everybody just sat there and listened to the instructor, not trying to learn anything, bearing a grudge that they were forced to swithc to a "less expensive software", which in they're mind equals less quality software. And now, everyone is complaining about how they can't do this and they can't do that, making the admins miserable with complaints.
But I'm sure that in time people will learn to use it, especially when the tech-illiterate generation (which my dad belongs to) starts to move out of there. Things r lookin' good for StarOffice and OO.o IMO.
I already corrected your parent post, but I am also going to reply to yours, because you make a very common legal error.
A company does not have a legal right to discriminate people on any grounds they want to, no more than the government. It's not like inviding people to your birthday party, you can invite all the coloured people, and not invite the white's, but the same does not go for those who offer goods or services in the open market.
As I stated above, one has to be able to point out something that legitimately gives them the right not to do business with them, an example would be if the person was a spammer or a dDoSer. Terminating a contract because they don't want to do business with people who use the Internet a lot is not a legit reason in this case, unless the ISP contract you agreed upon clearly states this condition.
PS.: this is the way things work in Scandinavia (no, that's not a country ^_^), where I live. I'll eat my hat if the great US allows this kind of discrimination.
your ISP has every right to terminate your service for any reason they want. It's in the contract...
No,
they don't have every right. You have a contract with them, it may contain conditions which you must follow. If it has a clause which says that they can terminate your service for any reason at all, that would not hold in a court of law.
Let me explain: If I walk into a store and try to purchase a banana, the clerk cannot deny me of my banana unless there is a legit reason for it, i.e. if I was drunk and was making a scene, and/or was trying to use fake money. Not even if there was a sign on the wall which said "we preserve a right to deny anybody to buy anything, for whatever reason". If a reason for not making a contract or terminating a contract is not legit like that, that would be kind of like making a group of people sit at the back of the bus because of the colour of their skin!
However, if there are only so and so many bananas in the country, and I was trying to buy a whole bunch of them, that might hold as a reason for not selling me more than X bananas. However, it would not be OK if the store clerk would allow me to purchase all the bananas, then run after me and take them all away from me. He would have to tell me about the "maximum X bananas per customer" rule before I make the purchase.
The same goes for bandwith, an ISP cannot terminate a contract unless there is a legit reason (like if you were downloading kiddie-porn or violating a clause in the contract, a clause which has to clearly state the condiotions of your usage).
wtf do you mean by time and money?
If I already have a fast internet connection (with, in my case, free domestic downloads), it is enough for me to
1. fire up emule
2. go to search and write name of songs or almbum
3. double-click the song or album. Now I can go and go do some homework or meet my friends or s-g.
how does that take more time and money than it takes for you to walk over to the music shop and shell out your 10$?
Did you perhaps, back when you "cared", always watch the computer screen as the music got dl'ed? That's just stupid if you ask me.
PS. I just downloaded the white stripes new cd, and it SUCKED, big time. I had previously bought the first album and after hearing 2 songs from the new one, I thought I might check it out. I can't begin to describe my disgust over the rest. So I deleted all but the 2 songs I liked. How's that for saving time and money?
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I absoloutely agree with parent. This tiny message (popup?) idea sounds stupid, not insightful. Those who are not on the internet a lot are never going to be willing to pay this fee you talk about, imho.
I have 2 adresses that I use daily. A hotmail account and a university account (see above - @hi.is), neither of which receive any spam to speak of. My university uses spamassassain, which misses about one email a month (I don't have it set very high), Thunderbird takes care of the rest. Recently Hotmail's filters have gone froma la-la to very strict, no spam in my account for months now.
I think internet-evolution will take care of spam someday. The filters will become so good that it won't be worth the effort to be a spammer. I also believe that the number of people falling for spam will decrease (but maybe not).
And it keeps growing - It seems that Justin has got some weird nipple thingies too.
That's american showbiz for you. really fucked up
- "[..] buy Office happily."
NEVERHere are some things that are missing from OOo that bug me:
*no track changes
*not able to shrink all fonts in a single document at once (say, all by 30%)
bullets and numbering not as easy to use (changing the bullet-style for each bullet level)
I love OOo, but it's not perfect.
- bandwidth saturation to be seen here http://php.stuwo.net
/. effect. Daily graph explodes at posting time of parent ;-)
it's slashdotted too. Google cache to be seen hereNice visualization of the
I suspect this is one of Brain's ideas to TAKE OVER THE WORLD (that's what they do every other night, why should said night be any different)
Here are some of Brain's schemes involving space (source: this site [usi-rpg.com]):
"Using my own patented Jimmy Brain technique, I have already succeeded in purchasing, with no money down, every apartment, condo, and office space on the planet above the 39th floor...We will alter the Hubbell Space Telescope so it concentrates the sun's rays on the ice caps, melting them...flooding the entire planet up to the 39th floor, thereby leaving me in control of the only usable real estate on earth."
"Tonight's plan involves space junk... There are hundreds of discarded satellites orbiting the earth... Tonight, as all the discarded satellites pass within mere miles of each other, I will manipulate the world's largest magnet to move them into position, spelling out 'Brain is your ruler'."
"Tonight's plan shall unfold in less than one half hour... Those wires I've hooked up to the lab surveillance camera run to a powerful forty megawatt uplink, which I have built from common household tin foil, a standard wire coat hanger, a number three salad fork, and that big pie plate from last Thanksgiving. With which I have located and stealthily tapped into an abandoned CM-2000 satellite orbiting our globe. This idle transmitter was yesterday but a floating piece of space flotsam, but now it is a workhorse. Broadcasting my infomercial to every man, woman, and child. Reaching the earth's entire population as we speak. Ye-ess!! I've compiled the ultimate list of advertising phrases, no one viewing this infomercial will be able to resist making a purchase. And once they've ordered our product, I'll be just a short step away from taking over the world!
Narf!
I admit it, I'm new here too
Obligatory (guaranteed +5 funny)
Wrong. The openbsd people obviously included this "crash feature" just so that windows people could feel at home with OpenBSD. I think it's time for Windows folks to switch to OpenBSD.
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I say CmdrTaco dupe this story a few times between now and feb. 12th., just to make sure.
This is what the 2.4. kernel had to say about this:
Bang bang it shot me down
Bang bang I hit the ground
Bang bang that awful sound
Bang bang my brother shot me down
I was 2.4 and he was 2.6
We rode on horses made of sticks
He wore black and I wore white
He could always win the fight
...
Yeah, I know it's pretty crappy, but it's past my bedtime and I'm tired ^_^
I suspect this is one of Brain's ideas to TAKE OVER THE WORLD (that's what they do every other night, why should said night be any different)
... Using my own modification of called-id technology, I have set up this massive computer to automatically answer the phone and store each caller's personal specifics. To keep the computer from overheating, I've hooked up an elaborate ten thousand gallon water cooling system... But the important puzzle piece of this plan... is to get everyone's address - the world's most complete mailing list, because everyone in the world will be on it. Then, we shall overload the global postal system, choking every single P.O. Box and mail slot with gross amounts of unwanted junk mail. The nuisance of it all will surely drive everyone mad. But, I shall be the savior - 'Put me in charge of your world, and I promise to remove each and everyone's name from all junk mail lists.' Jumping at the opportunity, people will only realize too late that I am their new, ever-powerful, and unimpeachable ruler."
Here are some of Brain's schemes involving space (source: this site):
"Using my own patented Jimmy Brain technique, I have already succeeded in purchasing, with no money down, every apartment, condo, and office space on the planet above the 39th floor...We will alter the Hubbell Space Telescope so it concentrates the sun's rays on the ice caps, melting them...flooding the entire planet up to the 39th floor, thereby leaving me in control of the only usable real estate on earth."
"Tonight's plan involves space junk... There are hundreds of discarded satellites orbiting the earth... Tonight, as all the discarded satellites pass within mere miles of each other, I will manipulate the world's largest magnet to move them into position, spelling out 'Brain is your ruler'."
"Tonight's plan shall unfold in less than one half hour... Those wires I've hooked up to the lab surveillance camera run to a powerful forty megawatt uplink, which I have built from common household tin foil, a standard wire coat hanger, a number three salad fork, and that big pie plate from last Thanksgiving. With which I have located and stealthily tapped into an abandoned CM-2000 satellite orbiting our globe. This idle transmitter was yesterday but a floating piece of space flotsam, but now it is a workhorse. Broadcasting my infomercial to every man, woman, and child. Reaching the earth's entire population as we speak. Ye-ess!! I've compiled the ultimate list of advertising phrases, no one viewing this infomercial will be able to resist making a purchase. And once they've ordered our product, I'll be just a short step away from taking over the world!
Narf!
The show itself is not so bad if you've got nothing better to do with your time, IMO. Or maybe I just miss TNG and Voyager so much (I don't miss DS9), that it makes me immune to how crappy plotlines. As cmdrTaco points out,
- maybe-if-it-was-better
^_^I'm not surprised, Sherlock, I didn't bother to RTFA :) - hence, the subject has a question mark at the end.
But that don't mean you can't copy/paste a clever comment from the linked article, such as I suggested = easy karma if you do it right.
For those of you who want to post clever comments, see here ... ^_^
We are the nerds ... you will be debianated?
well .. duuuuhh? Sorry, but I just hate these redundant "maybe this will be the turning point for winnig jane sixpack over", why is this an interesting post? Does anybody think this is something else then good for the community? Do you think that this will mean status quoe for the OSS community? I don't.
Whoa!!! that should take his mind off the caffeine-addiction
For those who are not all that fluent in english, introvert is a person who tends to shrink from social contacts and to become preoccupied with their own thoughts and extrovert is a person concerned more with practical realities than with inner thoughts and feelings (source: dictionary.com)
I didn't know this myself
I think you're absoloutely right about the increase in stupidness. .. judging from what my dad said, everybody just sat there and listened to the instructor, not trying to learn anything, bearing a grudge that they were forced to swithc to a "less expensive software", which in they're mind equals less quality software. And now, everyone is complaining about how they can't do this and they can't do that, making the admins miserable with complaints.
My dad works for the Internal Revenue Service here in Iceland and they recently switched to StarOffice. How I pity the poor Administrators over there. From what I hear, everybody were given a free course to help them migrate from MSOffice, but noooo
But I'm sure that in time people will learn to use it, especially when the tech-illiterate generation (which my dad belongs to) starts to move out of there. Things r lookin' good for StarOffice and OO.o IMO.
It is their legal right
I already corrected your parent post, but I am also going to reply to yours, because you make a very common legal error.
A company does not have a legal right to discriminate people on any grounds they want to, no more than the government.
It's not like inviding people to your birthday party, you can invite all the coloured people, and not invite the white's, but the same does not go for those who offer goods or services in the open market.
As I stated above, one has to be able to point out something that legitimately gives them the right not to do business with them, an example would be if the person was a spammer or a dDoSer. Terminating a contract because they don't want to do business with people who use the Internet a lot is not a legit reason in this case, unless the ISP contract you agreed upon clearly states this condition.
PS.: this is the way things work in Scandinavia (no, that's not a country ^_^), where I live. I'll eat my hat if the great US allows this kind of discrimination.
your ISP has every right to terminate your service for any reason they want. It's in the contract ...
No,
they don't have every right. You have a contract with them, it may contain conditions which you must follow. If it has a clause which says that they can terminate your service for any reason at all, that would not hold in a court of law.
Let me explain: If I walk into a store and try to purchase a banana, the clerk cannot deny me of my banana unless there is a legit reason for it, i.e. if I was drunk and was making a scene, and/or was trying to use fake money. Not even if there was a sign on the wall which said "we preserve a right to deny anybody to buy anything, for whatever reason".
If a reason for not making a contract or terminating a contract is not legit like that, that would be kind of like making a group of people sit at the back of the bus because of the colour of their skin!
However, if there are only so and so many bananas in the country, and I was trying to buy a whole bunch of them, that might hold as a reason for not selling me more than X bananas. However, it would not be OK if the store clerk would allow me to purchase all the bananas, then run after me and take them all away from me. He would have to tell me about the "maximum X bananas per customer" rule before I make the purchase.
The same goes for bandwith, an ISP cannot terminate a contract unless there is a legit reason (like if you were downloading kiddie-porn or violating a clause in the contract, a clause which has to clearly state the condiotions of your usage).
I was going to post a very insightful and witty comment, but as it turn out, IT HAD ALREADY BEEN POSTED.
... ^_^
Gotta love them editors
wtf do you mean by time and money? If I already have a fast internet connection (with, in my case, free domestic downloads), it is enough for me to
1. fire up emule
2. go to search and write name of songs or almbum
3. double-click the song or album. Now I can go and go do some homework or meet my friends or s-g.
how does that take more time and money than it takes for you to walk over to the music shop and shell out your 10$?
Did you perhaps, back when you "cared", always watch the computer screen as the music got dl'ed? That's just stupid if you ask me.
PS. I just downloaded the white stripes new cd, and it SUCKED, big time. I had previously bought the first album and after hearing 2 songs from the new one, I thought I might check it out. I can't begin to describe my disgust over the rest. So I deleted all but the 2 songs I liked. How's that for saving time and money?