I hate typing (though, now that I no longer need to write, I can stop hating that so it's a trade off) and given the ability to transfer the thought of code into text or an image in my mind to an image on screen instantly or whatever would be desirable.
Does this mean you'll next stop hating typing and start hating thinking?
Um, ok. Download Debian packages you want to update (.deb). Just apt-get -d dist-upgrade to Download to latest releases. Then copy your/var/cache/apt/archives to a cd.
To install, you can simply dpkg -i or "update" your sources list via CD and then install them all.
coffee doesn't really have the same reaction any more...
Hmm. My coffee seems to react the same, but my body's reaction to the coffee... that continues to change.
I guess you don't know any teachers. My mother has been one for nearly 25 years. I can't think of a week (school year) that she didn't put in at LEAST 50+ hours (And every other teacher I knew). Handouts, lesson plans, tutoring, meetings, after school stuff, etc.
Do the world a favor and not speak when you don't know what you're talking about.
And if you're gonna complain, have the guts to not do so as an AC.
The key is that once they send in the 1023 form for exemption and 872-C, All donations made will be tax-deductible retroactively. SO assuming they'll make it (State approval makes that a shoe-in), you can contribute today and in a few month officially write it off.
Morphix foots the bill of Knoppix without all the specific packages.
There is a gentleman (Gandalfar) on the Morphix channel, who has created a "Build your own LiveCD" program called intellibuild. It works nicely, apt-gets the latest.debs and allows you to copy config files over.
I have not used PeopleSoft, but I do have experience with browser only interfaces. You mentioned "replace the whole machine with hard drive..." how about one step simpler... LTSP (ltsp.org).
No hard drive. No CD Rom. No Floppy. No Sound. (you can if you like, but we're talking simple.).
You just have one server or maybe one server and one or two application servers (LTSP, X, Peoplesoft).
I've set this up for several schools and it works great. Also at a few businesses for OpenOffice and Evolution. If a machine breaks, they just walk in and replace it and check it out later when they are scraping to build a few more standbys.
I have one place with 15 client machines that are 150MHz, 32MB Ram, video and ethernet over 100 BaseT and a "server" that is a whopping 700MHz AMD with 1GB Ram. (don't skimp on server RAM). It takes a minute to load KDE and Mozilla (Maybe 60sec for both) the first time (we use Mozilla for composer, IRC and Email), but then is very quick for simultaneous users (15 seconds from boot to browswer). Then nice thing is that whatever your servers run at is what you appear to be running at your thin client.
This assumes you have any clue as to how many proprietary programs were started by companies that never even made it out of the first stages to the public. You probably don't.
Yes, there are a lot of oss projects that don't continue in development, but part of the the reason for that is because they unofficially merge or blend into other projects. Sometimes others pick up and rename the project, etc.
Another thing to consider is how many companies that make proprietary programs can afford to just drop them? In OSS you can take certain risks that companies can't, so even if more OSS programs are dropped, it is statistically more likely that more gems will rise to the top because more people can jump onboard.
So you never, ever, ever run Windows Update, right? Because that would be "changing the OS"
Oh wait... says right there you do, so you're already contradicting yourself.
Just because Linux actually changes does NOT mean you have to. Just like a lot of people run Win98 still. Just like some people have a version of linux that's a few years old. It does what they need.
You mistake "rapid change" for flakyness, which is simply wrong.
Every year, Ford releases new models... does that mean your 2000 model is "flaky"? No. It still works, but, OH MY.. EVERY TWELVE MONTHS!!!!!!! Can you believe that?
So if you're waiting for Linux to slow down, or stop being creative and not update every DAY, you'll never get there.
Morphix is a LiveCD based on Knoppix hardware detection, but you can customize it.
You start with a base install, insert the mini-modules, build ISO and burn. This means:
1) You don't have to worry about the underlying Linux, harware detection, etc.
2) You can use other people's modules for the basics (KDE, Gnome, xfce4.0, etc)
3) You can use other peoples modules for programs (OpenOffice, Gimp, Cinerella, etc.)
4) You can build your own module for programs. Like a "Graphix-mod" or something.
5) There is an "Install to HD" icon that is pretty simple.
I'm a little over 2,000 computers that I've tried with Knoppix, and now Morphix. THREE didn't work. And that was because the CD-Roms wouldn't read my CD-R. But then again, They wouldn't boot the Win98 disk, either.
That's kinda the point of Morphix. There is a base install, and you simply insert mini-modules or main-modules for what you need and "Morph" your new disk ISO to burn.
Just make a "Server Main Module" with the services you want, morph into the base (that uses knoppix hw detection) and presto! You're own LiveCD
I've run into five people in tha past two weeks and asked them, "Ever tried Linux?"
Strangely they all said something like, "Yeah, but it doesn't do what I need."
Me: "Oh really, when was it you tried it?"
Them: "About five years ago."
I think one major problem Linux faces is that Joe Average can't comprehend the speed that Linux has been changing with. Five years ago, you had Win98, which looked a felt a lot like Win95 which still strongly acts like WinXP in many areas.
So if MS has been pretty much even in almost 10 years of OS, they assume Linux works like it did 5 years ago.
Slashdot Mirror
Oh wait... this is
Um, ok. Download Debian packages you want to update (.deb). Just apt-get -d dist-upgrade to Download to latest releases. Then copy your /var/cache/apt/archives to a cd.
To install, you can simply dpkg -i or "update" your sources list via CD and then install them all.
Any more questions? Didn't think so.
coffee doesn't really have the same reaction any more... Hmm. My coffee seems to react the same, but my body's reaction to the coffee... that continues to change.
The above posts made me blow soda through my nose! I haven't laughed that good in a long time.
I guess you don't know any teachers. My mother has been one for nearly 25 years. I can't think of a week (school year) that she didn't put in at LEAST 50+ hours (And every other teacher I knew). Handouts, lesson plans, tutoring, meetings, after school stuff, etc.
Do the world a favor and not speak when you don't know what you're talking about.
And if you're gonna complain, have the guts to not do so as an AC.
The key is that once they send in the 1023 form for exemption and 872-C, All donations made will be tax-deductible retroactively. SO assuming they'll make it (State approval makes that a shoe-in), you can contribute today and in a few month officially write it off.
Morphix foots the bill of Knoppix without all the specific packages.
.debs and allows you to copy config files over.
There is a gentleman (Gandalfar) on the Morphix channel, who has created a "Build your own LiveCD" program called intellibuild. It works nicely, apt-gets the latest
The morphix installer is getting better, too.
I have not used PeopleSoft, but I do have experience with browser only interfaces.
You mentioned "replace the whole machine with hard drive..." how about one step simpler... LTSP (ltsp.org).
No hard drive. No CD Rom. No Floppy. No Sound. (you can if you like, but we're talking simple.).
You just have one server or maybe one server and one or two application servers (LTSP, X, Peoplesoft).
I've set this up for several schools and it works great. Also at a few businesses for OpenOffice and Evolution. If a machine breaks, they just walk in and replace it and check it out later when they are scraping to build a few more standbys.
I have one place with 15 client machines that are 150MHz, 32MB Ram, video and ethernet over 100 BaseT and a "server" that is a whopping 700MHz AMD with 1GB Ram. (don't skimp on server RAM). It takes a minute to load KDE and Mozilla (Maybe 60sec for both) the first time (we use Mozilla for composer, IRC and Email), but then is very quick for simultaneous users (15 seconds from boot to browswer). Then nice thing is that whatever your servers run at is what you appear to be running at your thin client.
In that case, try Morphix. You can simply choose which modules you want to install.
Cleaner install than KNoppix too...more debianish.
KJ
"So, um, you're actually gonna pay me to work here?"
"Cool! I'll take it!"
Well,
Normally when I drag a floppy into the trash can, it ends up with coffee grounds and poopy diapers on it, so I'd say that:
B) Destroys the disk
How'm I doing?
The fact that a *.doc was opened and the bullets didn't show seems about as insignificant as whether or not my work car is black or grey.
..A Heading
....1 Heading
......a) Heading
This shows that it hasn't happened to you much.
If someone is taking notes in outline form and they get 4 or 5 indentations (which is just bullets in Word (and OOo ftm)) then OpenOffice will Do:
I Heading
Supposed to be Bullet indent 5
Supposed to be Bullet indent 6
Supposed to be Bullet indent 7
So anything indented for 5-7 aboe just defaults to the left margin. If there are a lot of points there, you have to try to figure out where they go.
And the choices for OOo outlines don't even have an option for Turabian proper (Common in many post grad schools here in US).
This assumes you have any clue as to how many proprietary programs were started by companies that never even made it out of the first stages to the public. You probably don't.
Yes, there are a lot of oss projects that don't continue in development, but part of the the reason for that is because they unofficially merge or blend into other projects. Sometimes others pick up and rename the project, etc.
Another thing to consider is how many companies that make proprietary programs can afford to just drop them? In OSS you can take certain risks that companies can't, so even if more OSS programs are dropped, it is statistically more likely that more gems will rise to the top because more people can jump onboard.
KJ
You do all these things so you can spend several hours a day reading slashdot.
:)
I mean, think of how much time you spend reading this thing.
Easily thousands of hours saved in a year.
have a program for gynecologists?
Oh wait... Cervi-sia.
Nevermind.
Actually, I thought it was the surge in power that caused the gate to jump to the second one.
I SO wish I had mod points. I would put you to +5 Funny in a heartbeat if allowed.
So you never, ever, ever run Windows Update, right? Because that would be "changing the OS"
Oh wait... says right there you do, so you're already contradicting yourself.
Just because Linux actually changes does NOT mean you have to. Just like a lot of people run Win98 still. Just like some people have a version of linux that's a few years old. It does what they need.
You mistake "rapid change" for flakyness, which is simply wrong.
Every year, Ford releases new models... does that mean your 2000 model is "flaky"? No. It still works, but, OH MY.. EVERY TWELVE MONTHS!!!!!!! Can you believe that?
So if you're waiting for Linux to slow down, or stop being creative and not update every DAY, you'll never get there.
Um, you don't have to worry about harDware detection either. It takes care of both.
Morphix is a LiveCD based on Knoppix hardware detection, but you can customize it.
You start with a base install, insert the mini-modules, build ISO and burn. This means:
1) You don't have to worry about the underlying Linux, harware detection, etc.
2) You can use other people's modules for the basics (KDE, Gnome, xfce4.0, etc)
3) You can use other peoples modules for programs (OpenOffice, Gimp, Cinerella, etc.)
4) You can build your own module for programs. Like a "Graphix-mod" or something.
5) There is an "Install to HD" icon that is pretty simple.
http://www.morphix.org
Little experience with LiveCDs.
I'm a little over 2,000 computers that I've tried with Knoppix, and now Morphix. THREE didn't work. And that was because the CD-Roms wouldn't read my CD-R. But then again, They wouldn't boot the Win98 disk, either.
That's kinda the point of Morphix. There is a base install, and you simply insert mini-modules or main-modules for what you need and "Morph" your new disk ISO to burn.
Just make a "Server Main Module" with the services you want, morph into the base (that uses knoppix hw detection) and presto! You're own LiveCD
Dude, I know that technically it was offtopic, but you should be modded to INSIGHTFUL or INFORMATIVE. I actually feel smarter for reading that.
I've run into five people in tha past two weeks and asked them, "Ever tried Linux?" Strangely they all said something like, "Yeah, but it doesn't do what I need." Me: "Oh really, when was it you tried it?" Them: "About five years ago."
I think one major problem Linux faces is that Joe Average can't comprehend the speed that Linux has been changing with. Five years ago, you had Win98, which looked a felt a lot like Win95 which still strongly acts like WinXP in many areas.
So if MS has been pretty much even in almost 10 years of OS, they assume Linux works like it did 5 years ago.