druken college kid: "dude, we should make a program that downloads and stores the internet"
druken buddy: "dude, after i piss, i'm so there."
i wonder if google will index this, and cache it? wow that could make for some sweet folly the next time giant company x accidentally posts that they knowingly discriminate against minorities or hate gay midgets or fixed nazi computers that kept track of concentration camp prisoners.
amazon should have this list posted with links to buy the books.
"if you like being able to read whatever you want, these titles may also interest you:"
i went to a 50's pop culture exhibit here in calgary a couple of years ago and they had an entire section of banned media from that period in canada. i couldn't believe some of the titles. they had the books in a barrel, implying they were about to be lit on fire.
the title i remember best in that pile was "lord of the flies", which was required reading for english when i was in grade 6 in british columbia.
it's nice to see i am not the only person that gets "the rage" when i see organizations trying to ban books.
d = development cost s = selling price n = number of clients a = profit
(s*n) - d = a
now, let's fill in the variables shall we:
d = $0.00+ s = $0.00 n = let's say... 10000
($0.00 * 10000) - $0.00 = $0.00
well, looks like we're back to the drawing board for a sustainable business model. of course if this were the late 90's i'd have gotten 20 million+ for this idea.
this formula is better known as "the future of redhat" in some circles.
By that I mean, it's like the essay was written to see exactly how much we're willing to spend on software. Further it seems to want us to answer in what method we prefer the pricing to be structured.
Anyway, for my two cents on profiting while giving the code away:
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do you have a link to the MPAA being quoted as saying they didn't make any money on spiderman? that would be a great quote to have kicking around for the next round of debates.
all markets end with two companies at the top with the lion's share of the market. consumers like choice, but not so much choice that they can't figure out what to buy.
kinda sad that no "analysts" ever gripe about microsoft releasing products to make sure revenue stays up, instead of releasing innovative or new applications that are needed/creating new markets.
"As long as it makes me money, I'll continue to do it."
and this is, in my opinion, why spam continues to proliferate. if users stop clicking on the links in spam, there will be no reason to send it anymore.
but, since our sysadmins can't even convince users to stop opening suspicious attachments that turn out to be viruses, i guess this is never going to get solved.
there are a lot of posts for htis article talking about the inflated value of google's stock based on their intake of yearly revenue.
yes, i agree that the google price per share is higher than it should be.
that said, how much is the technology that drives their search worth? 36 billion? probably not... but it certainly is worth a lot. the problem is, if they start selling it to third parties, does the total value of the search software as IP for google increase or decrease?
it seems like exclusivity is their strength and weakness to me.
i think the problem i am running into here is that i don't know enough about the stock market and how it works to figure out how they place value for a company just coming to the public party.
this reminded me a bit of Anarchy, State and Utopia (which i am currently reading, or more accurately trying to read). It seems a lot like the State of Nature theory summarized in the book, only the digital extension of it, so to speak:
i like the ideas presented in this "article", despite the obvious privacy issues created by the system, but hopefully the technologies referenced will inspire other people to create a more realistic and less utopian version of the Semantic Web.
the guy who posted information about semantic intranets has a good point, with the smaller scale and centralized control of intranets semantic relationships can more easily be maintained. perhaps soon we will see products like the google appliance that focus on this type of information storage.
chances are they are never going to give a shit, no matter how much you lead by example.
on one hand, you will never be around enough to influence their path.
the other hand is, when they see you work twice as hard for half as much their perception is going to be that you're not doing something right.
if you really want to do them a favor and change their lives, get a batman costume and start cracking heads.
no pun intended.
"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."
- Verbal, The Usual Suspects
yeah, because apple is the poster boy for "share and share alike".
note that i am posting this from a powerbook, so save the apple-hater responses.
hello pot? it's the kettle on line two.
i am more or less sure that attack of the clones was shot with shit smeared all over the lens.
yeah, the real breakthrough would be indentifying people who are not obese.
i agree, the lastest three are absolute crap. george needs to NOT write dialogue.
i think the way to look at it is this:
because of microsoft's stranglehold on the operating system market, the only way for [insert operating system here] was to give it away.
hey, thanks for the history lesson... who says you can't learn anything on the internet.
druken college kid: "dude, we should make a program that downloads and stores the internet"
druken buddy: "dude, after i piss, i'm so there."
i wonder if google will index this, and cache it? wow that could make for some sweet folly the next time giant company x accidentally posts that they knowingly discriminate against minorities or hate gay midgets or fixed nazi computers that kept track of concentration camp prisoners.
holy crap did that get offtopic.
amazon should have this list posted with links to buy the books.
"if you like being able to read whatever you want, these titles may also interest you:"
i went to a 50's pop culture exhibit here in calgary a couple of years ago and they had an entire section of banned media from that period in canada. i couldn't believe some of the titles. they had the books in a barrel, implying they were about to be lit on fire.
the title i remember best in that pile was "lord of the flies", which was required reading for english when i was in grade 6 in british columbia.
it's nice to see i am not the only person that gets "the rage" when i see organizations trying to ban books.
the volume equation for open source:
d = development cost
s = selling price
n = number of clients
a = profit
(s*n) - d = a
now, let's fill in the variables shall we:
d = $0.00+
s = $0.00
n = let's say... 10000
($0.00 * 10000) - $0.00 = $0.00
well, looks like we're back to the drawing board for a sustainable business model. of course if this were the late 90's i'd have gotten 20 million+ for this idea.
this formula is better known as "the future of redhat" in some circles.
Does this essay seem like probing to anyone else?
By that I mean, it's like the essay was written to see exactly how much we're willing to spend on software. Further it seems to want us to answer in what method we prefer the pricing to be structured.
Anyway, for my two cents on profiting while giving the code away:
i stand corrected.
thanks man, that's really interesting.
that's true, also backwards it Sukur...
do you have a link to the MPAA being quoted as saying they didn't make any money on spiderman? that would be a great quote to have kicking around for the next round of debates.
all markets end with two companies at the top with the lion's share of the market. consumers like choice, but not so much choice that they can't figure out what to buy.
is there an open source project that mimics sharepoint?
i have no use for one whatsoever, but the OSS community has done a bang-up job with open office and exchange clones, so now my curiosity is peaked.
wish i could code. no wait... i'm glad i can't.
kinda sad that no "analysts" ever gripe about microsoft releasing products to make sure revenue stays up, instead of releasing innovative or new applications that are needed/creating new markets.
maybe i'm just feeling bitter tonight.
and this is, in my opinion, why spam continues to proliferate. if users stop clicking on the links in spam, there will be no reason to send it anymore.
but, since our sysadmins can't even convince users to stop opening suspicious attachments that turn out to be viruses, i guess this is never going to get solved.
you know that's a good idea... "pirated the game? get legit, click here to buy a valid cd-key"
there are a lot of posts for htis article talking about the inflated value of google's stock based on their intake of yearly revenue.
yes, i agree that the google price per share is higher than it should be.
that said, how much is the technology that drives their search worth? 36 billion? probably not... but it certainly is worth a lot. the problem is, if they start selling it to third parties, does the total value of the search software as IP for google increase or decrease?
it seems like exclusivity is their strength and weakness to me.
i think the problem i am running into here is that i don't know enough about the stock market and how it works to figure out how they place value for a company just coming to the public party.
this reminded me a bit of Anarchy, State and Utopia (which i am currently reading, or more accurately trying to read). It seems a lot like the State of Nature theory summarized in the book, only the digital extension of it, so to speak:
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http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0465097200/
ISBN: 0465097200
i like the ideas presented in this "article", despite the obvious privacy issues created by the system, but hopefully the technologies referenced will inspire other people to create a more realistic and less utopian version of the Semantic Web.
the guy who posted information about semantic intranets has a good point, with the smaller scale and centralized control of intranets semantic relationships can more easily be maintained. perhaps soon we will see products like the google appliance that focus on this type of information storage.
maybe mel gibson can direct it.