that a protest actually worked in europe, a place where peoples' voices arent supposed to be really heard over the government's..
In the US, where peoples' voices are truly supposed to count, they're ignored...
hmm, is this telling us something? well, telling us nothing new. but still.... it's just sad.
however, good for them.
hehehehhe, I have that cd, that's the first line that came to mind when I saw that headline.
"and then land in a sewage treatment pond and sink along with all the other turds"
carlin is a classic.
still, I'd like to see these people pull it off, and not end up in space.
Hmm, sounds like another microsoft.
and the amount of code they give back is like... part of a c file. Now with this, they're prolly not going to give back anything, not to mention they're not that great yet where they can just take this and shove it in the businessman's face, but, I forget that microsoft did the same thing. Funny how when microsoft related code is in question, people pull the same moves as microsoft did and have sticky hands as well. It's sick, honestly.
These companies are the type that take advantage of opensource, promise something that will keep the true opensource developers happy, then not really fall through on it.
I say, dont use transgaming's crap, I've tried winex 3 and vanilla wine worked better than it. Well, on the application front anyways. I bet this new software is winex + vanilla wine.
Maybe this will be an eye opener for opensource, stop trying to make linux something its not, a windows compatible operating system.
So what all other operating systems do, just open up vmware, becuase eventually, you're probably better off using that, becuase transgaming and codeweavers will probably jack up their pricing in the future. All you're doing when you're trying to make linux windows compatible is giving into microsoft. Make wine support limited for applications, to coax these developers into linux.
They fail to realise that they have a good sized market over in linux. Potential new users to their hardware and software.
This project is not going to do well in my opinion, transgaming is bound to slip up on a legality and get sued by microsoft. Oh well.
There are still tasks robots couldnt do that humans can, you must remember that. now, maybe like mass production of things and checkout lines, that shit already needs replacing because I'm tired of sitting line line for 10 minutes while some fat bitch stands there with her eyes crossed, looking like a confused and scared wild animal becuase she isnt sure how to scan up a box of cheese.
however, these retail stores still need people on the floors. and the cost of machines being able to do this would be too much, not to mention the unfriendliness when a customer needs help, no one would help, so only people who have certain positions in a job would lose jobs, or just get moved elsewhere in the store, big whoop, someone still needs to manage the place. and you gotta have people around to have that inviting feel.
and for the mass production industry, oh well, that's like coal mining, there's no real future there. let machines do that shit. probably get better quality products.
however, they need programmers and maintence works for these machines too, which would cost money, in the end, there will prolly be more money spent on the machines than human workers, just some things cant be replaced.. so there isnt any huge worry.
you all go on about all the flaws in linux and shit, well see, the difference is that linux' flaws arent with linux itself, it's the apps that are used, the linux kernel itself is damn stable, the only really major flaw I've seen with it was back with 2.2 and the DoS bug.
windows, down the the core, is flawed and riddled with security holes and other problems.
it's not set up correctly, nor is is feasible for any kind of major government security, that's like basically showing your information off. use linux for backend, or if you're daring and dont wanna pay shit, use linux. but still, when it comes to ease of use, use windows as the frame of the machine, and use linux as the engine.
linux has the security and power, and besides, I looked back on those linux worms, the worst of them all only hit 45 people, people who dont keep up on security, or lazy linux admins. and one more difference is that when a virus/worm hits windows, it ruins the system, a worm hits linux, first, it's a rare occasion, second, if you security the permissions, etc and dont run anything but init and non-server related programs as root (all the net services have their own user accounts and groups) the worm wont spread very far. and its attack will be very weak and it'll get discarded right off (as simple as deleting a/tmp/ entry.)
anyways, that's where linux has the power, even the most secure of systems still can get exploited, but what makes the system truly secure is how well it can handle such worms after they've entered the system. Microsoft's idea of security is to make a strong ass wall that will stop all attacks right there, but that's a highly stupid way to go, becuase once the worm finds a hol or tunnels under the wall, the system is fucked, becuase there's nothing in the system that will save it. linux has this, so it's not the matter of who creates the bigger wall, it's how the enemy is responded to after it enters in. aka, trapped and destroyed, then the hole is mended.
that's true security right there.
our government favors giving out our resources and money to 3rd word nations because it trumps up their popularity in nations that envy or even hate us, make friends with enemies, however, it doesnt work, all you do is add fuel to the fire against us and weaken us from within... really genous idea!
(note: not.)
people think that "linux is already secure, so I can just run it!" so they do, and dont bother securing it any, and get hacked, not to mention most admins have no clue what they're doing, or read up on how to properly secure a box.
to properly secure a box, you must think like a hacker. simple as that.
these people need to read up on iptables and keep updates on the latest security issues. most people dont. so yeah. it's not linux' fault, it's the person behind the wheel, it's like accusing a well secured car with a good chassis that wont crush you when you crash of driving you off a cliff. you're the one driving, not the car. same goes for linux. the system only does what you tell it to do, unlike windows.. which controls what a user does. Linux is your system, and it's up to you to make it secure.
What people mean by linux being secure is that most bugs and security holes within gnu apps andt he kernel are flattened out most of the time and when discovered, fixed immediatly.
and the fact it allows you to secure yourself. and the fact it's security tools are some of the best.
that's what they mean by linux being secure.
it also depends on what OS you run as well, and hw you set it up, so dont blame a perfectly fine system for the problems lazy/dumb administrators do. sadly, it's those with brains that must do the dirty work to keep the stupids from hurting themselves.
I have a great idea how to fix all of this, why dont we all just shoot ourselves? becuase we're evil badguys and not needed for any of these companies' profits, their money comes from magical wells from lollypop lane!
in seriousness, these people have forgotten who they're serving. we're not serving them, now they're pissed because we dare find alternatives or serve ourselves, so they bitch to the government to make it legal to enslave us. Oh well, I guess I'll go find some little island somewhere. I'm just plain tired of this constant crap that we kep getting fed, like I've said so many times.. just wait for the systems to trip over each other and keep a ammunition on hand when hell breaks loose. The people who serve us now feel that they are the people in power and feel that they can fuck us around, well, when people get pissed and not support them by not buying anything. they're quickly remember who they really are and will kiss ass again. this DeCSS stuff is an example of how greed controls the fate of the human race, we need to abolish greed, but before that happens, greed must take its course and do its damage, though its damage could mean the end of us all. however, people will survive and find new ways not to centralize the world around the almighty dollar and do things for others out of the reason for keeping the human race alive, because in the end, money has no real power, except social status.
like I've said, I'm gonna laugh when all systems entropy due to greed, and control whores.
Really, there's no safe place to go anymore.. basically, we're all fucked and so the best thing you can do is sit back and let the system take itself down.
becuase if you dare challenge, say the US govt. you're a terrorist and you're gonna sit in jail for the rest of your days without hearing or any actual rights..
Hitler would be proud.
only reason I'd use ham radio is for a last resort or communication, too bad they're so expensive.
too bad bsd is dying, it has some guts to it and it did have a lot of influence over linux.
tis a shame, really.
I have a question, is there any way you can connect your computer through ham radio to connect to a ham radio server on another part of the world and keep some speed?
exactly. I get criticized for being a linux "fanboy" becuase I point ou the fact that people say how they like restarting becuase it keeps their computer "nice and fresh"
If you have a truly stable system, you'd be able to pull off 1 year, 2 year uptimes without any problems, and the system would still be "fresh"
P2P has only created a %7 loss in the industry, that's right.. 7%.
not a huge number either, and the artists who are bitching, right after they complain how they're going poor, they buy a new load of sports cars.
it's crap, it's greed at its finest, people got tired of the greed and found a way to extend their middle fingers, so now these greedy companies want the government to supress the people into being a controlled permanent money flow. this is where mainstream music is about to die. what;s funny is that there was also a chart showing how much cd sales have tripled from p2p. The real problem are the real pirates, who copy cd's and then redistribute them for a lower price, etc. that's what has been hurting the industry for many years.. but, the industry didnt bitch back then..
so, I think it's just whoever's the easier target, and all that is going to happen in light of this is that the mainstream music industry is going to go broke eventually, people will get wise and listen to IUMA and indie labels. you'll still have the brainwashed people who will back the industry to the grave, becuase they're used to being controlled by someone much "bigger" than them.. and really, you think about it, the industry is below us becuase their existance relies on us. same with actors and actresses, and all of the media. same with the government and all the major companies. we made them, and they forget, we can destroy them, they're trying to make so we cant now, but, you really cant whip the human will down into doing that, well, at least, not right away.
and with this, SOON, we will be living in pink sacs of goo and wired into a virtual world once the machines have found out they cant be stopped by us..
ok, sorry, I had to crack a lame Matrix joke in there some time..
anyways, this seems cool, but like I've said before...why? why make something that cant be stopped and can learn? and why they keep pushing artificial intelligence is beyond me, I can understand limited artificial intelligence, where they learn to an extent, but are "blocked" from learning how to, say.. hurt people and will stop if the thought of hurting others came to mind, etc. of course, that depends on their definition of "hurting" people. someone better put those kinds of safeguards on if we're gonna screw with artificial intelligence.
what's the real point of this? really. "WOO HOO! I've made a computer even more smarter than a human!" big deal. Really, Where's the real need to this? I mean, if you have a chip that possibly cannot be beaten, then, why have it around? where's the fun in that? What use will it bring? If they created a board that could fix storage and resource issues in a machine, or created perfect voice recognition? It's neat that they created this, but for what real reason? to play some world chess champ, and that's it? where will these go into production? the average person doesnt play chess, The people that do usually cant beat it right and left, and there are very few people that could even give this some challenge, to make it appealing they would have to dumb it down. So, what's the use of such a device?
the only thing keeping debian from being another faceless OS out there is its packaging system and stability record.
however, the cost of stability comes at lack of updated software. so you end up downloading the non-stable software anyways, so, what's the point of that? only thing that makes it truly great is the apt-get system. its packaging system is much nicer than RPM.. personally I dislike rpm. it's stingy and sometimes more complicated than it should be.. with debian's system it's like, when you select source, you get the damn source code, you dont get a package that you edit files in then rebuild and then install.
personally, if opensource wants to free people from microsoft matrix, they gotta appeal to these users, for some people in opnsource, this is a daunting task becuase they cant go below their level of experience, so what you gotta do is test various systems with certain points that offer the greatest ease.. apt-get would be perfect as the dominant packaging system in most linux distros.
an installer much like slackware's would make the almost perfect install (blue linux has a nice easy to understand installer as well)
things like that are what are going to make the next revolutionary distro. debian is antiquated in many ways. most people I know get it for either 2 things: to be "elite and cool" or for the packaging system. debian would be nothing without it. seeing an apt-get system replace other packaging systems within major linxu distributions would be a nice change.
Also, may I point out that really, in the end, linux is linux, each distribution is just a different profile of packages wrapped around a kernel.
that possibly one of the anti-virus groups might have deployed this as a test?
I have been pondering the idea of such a worm to exist, that possibly someone would eventually create a worm that does good, hell, let's see more of this.
we document a whole new set of sexual positions using WOOKIES!
XXX!!!HOT WOOKIE SMUT!!!XXX
what's sad is there're probably a website somewhere for that too.
personally, I dont think pda's will replace the conventional computer... they'll just be another accessory to the computer, though mobos are getting smaller and embedded systems are becoming popular.. I think people will still want towers or similar types of cases to modify and add power to..now.. for typical user.. pda's will prolly be another cell phone thing.. for hardcore computer geeks.. pc's will still be a major thing.. and pda's will be a side thing.
personally, I couldnt sit there squinting my eyes at a tiny-ass screen all day.. maybe when cd's are are the size of cheerios and hard drives are even smaller and pda's can display holographic displays... then MAYBE.. but we still need the conventional keyboard, becuase really, even if voice command stuff comes into play, you still need keyboards to have manual control.
there's just some things that need to stay.
it's the rise of the real life furries!! EVERYONE RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!
I'll get the shotguns.
yeah.. this reminds me of that movie.. the island of dr. something something.. cant remember the damn name of the doctor.. who created animal/human hybrids.. this just shows how much free time scientists have. and how most of them need to be shot in the chest.
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that a protest actually worked in europe, a place where peoples' voices arent supposed to be really heard over the government's.. In the US, where peoples' voices are truly supposed to count, they're ignored... hmm, is this telling us something? well, telling us nothing new. but still.... it's just sad. however, good for them.
hehehehhe, I have that cd, that's the first line that came to mind when I saw that headline. "and then land in a sewage treatment pond and sink along with all the other turds" carlin is a classic. still, I'd like to see these people pull it off, and not end up in space.
Hmm, sounds like another microsoft. and the amount of code they give back is like... part of a c file. Now with this, they're prolly not going to give back anything, not to mention they're not that great yet where they can just take this and shove it in the businessman's face, but, I forget that microsoft did the same thing. Funny how when microsoft related code is in question, people pull the same moves as microsoft did and have sticky hands as well. It's sick, honestly. These companies are the type that take advantage of opensource, promise something that will keep the true opensource developers happy, then not really fall through on it. I say, dont use transgaming's crap, I've tried winex 3 and vanilla wine worked better than it. Well, on the application front anyways. I bet this new software is winex + vanilla wine. Maybe this will be an eye opener for opensource, stop trying to make linux something its not, a windows compatible operating system. So what all other operating systems do, just open up vmware, becuase eventually, you're probably better off using that, becuase transgaming and codeweavers will probably jack up their pricing in the future. All you're doing when you're trying to make linux windows compatible is giving into microsoft. Make wine support limited for applications, to coax these developers into linux. They fail to realise that they have a good sized market over in linux. Potential new users to their hardware and software. This project is not going to do well in my opinion, transgaming is bound to slip up on a legality and get sued by microsoft. Oh well.
There are still tasks robots couldnt do that humans can, you must remember that. now, maybe like mass production of things and checkout lines, that shit already needs replacing because I'm tired of sitting line line for 10 minutes while some fat bitch stands there with her eyes crossed, looking like a confused and scared wild animal becuase she isnt sure how to scan up a box of cheese. however, these retail stores still need people on the floors. and the cost of machines being able to do this would be too much, not to mention the unfriendliness when a customer needs help, no one would help, so only people who have certain positions in a job would lose jobs, or just get moved elsewhere in the store, big whoop, someone still needs to manage the place. and you gotta have people around to have that inviting feel. and for the mass production industry, oh well, that's like coal mining, there's no real future there. let machines do that shit. probably get better quality products. however, they need programmers and maintence works for these machines too, which would cost money, in the end, there will prolly be more money spent on the machines than human workers, just some things cant be replaced.. so there isnt any huge worry.
this only proves that the australians are insane, beer driven people! anyways, I'd say Lindows would be Miller lite.
what they do is take two images and then bind them into one to create the 3d effect.
you all go on about all the flaws in linux and shit, well see, the difference is that linux' flaws arent with linux itself, it's the apps that are used, the linux kernel itself is damn stable, the only really major flaw I've seen with it was back with 2.2 and the DoS bug. windows, down the the core, is flawed and riddled with security holes and other problems. it's not set up correctly, nor is is feasible for any kind of major government security, that's like basically showing your information off. use linux for backend, or if you're daring and dont wanna pay shit, use linux. but still, when it comes to ease of use, use windows as the frame of the machine, and use linux as the engine. linux has the security and power, and besides, I looked back on those linux worms, the worst of them all only hit 45 people, people who dont keep up on security, or lazy linux admins. and one more difference is that when a virus/worm hits windows, it ruins the system, a worm hits linux, first, it's a rare occasion, second, if you security the permissions, etc and dont run anything but init and non-server related programs as root (all the net services have their own user accounts and groups) the worm wont spread very far. and its attack will be very weak and it'll get discarded right off (as simple as deleting a /tmp/ entry.)
anyways, that's where linux has the power, even the most secure of systems still can get exploited, but what makes the system truly secure is how well it can handle such worms after they've entered the system. Microsoft's idea of security is to make a strong ass wall that will stop all attacks right there, but that's a highly stupid way to go, becuase once the worm finds a hol or tunnels under the wall, the system is fucked, becuase there's nothing in the system that will save it. linux has this, so it's not the matter of who creates the bigger wall, it's how the enemy is responded to after it enters in. aka, trapped and destroyed, then the hole is mended.
that's true security right there.
our government favors giving out our resources and money to 3rd word nations because it trumps up their popularity in nations that envy or even hate us, make friends with enemies, however, it doesnt work, all you do is add fuel to the fire against us and weaken us from within... really genous idea! (note: not.)
I'm sorry dave.. I'm afraid I cant do that. *lands on europa*
people think that "linux is already secure, so I can just run it!" so they do, and dont bother securing it any, and get hacked, not to mention most admins have no clue what they're doing, or read up on how to properly secure a box. to properly secure a box, you must think like a hacker. simple as that. these people need to read up on iptables and keep updates on the latest security issues. most people dont. so yeah. it's not linux' fault, it's the person behind the wheel, it's like accusing a well secured car with a good chassis that wont crush you when you crash of driving you off a cliff. you're the one driving, not the car. same goes for linux. the system only does what you tell it to do, unlike windows.. which controls what a user does. Linux is your system, and it's up to you to make it secure. What people mean by linux being secure is that most bugs and security holes within gnu apps andt he kernel are flattened out most of the time and when discovered, fixed immediatly. and the fact it allows you to secure yourself. and the fact it's security tools are some of the best. that's what they mean by linux being secure. it also depends on what OS you run as well, and hw you set it up, so dont blame a perfectly fine system for the problems lazy/dumb administrators do. sadly, it's those with brains that must do the dirty work to keep the stupids from hurting themselves.
I have a great idea how to fix all of this, why dont we all just shoot ourselves? becuase we're evil badguys and not needed for any of these companies' profits, their money comes from magical wells from lollypop lane! in seriousness, these people have forgotten who they're serving. we're not serving them, now they're pissed because we dare find alternatives or serve ourselves, so they bitch to the government to make it legal to enslave us. Oh well, I guess I'll go find some little island somewhere. I'm just plain tired of this constant crap that we kep getting fed, like I've said so many times.. just wait for the systems to trip over each other and keep a ammunition on hand when hell breaks loose. The people who serve us now feel that they are the people in power and feel that they can fuck us around, well, when people get pissed and not support them by not buying anything. they're quickly remember who they really are and will kiss ass again. this DeCSS stuff is an example of how greed controls the fate of the human race, we need to abolish greed, but before that happens, greed must take its course and do its damage, though its damage could mean the end of us all. however, people will survive and find new ways not to centralize the world around the almighty dollar and do things for others out of the reason for keeping the human race alive, because in the end, money has no real power, except social status.
like I've said, I'm gonna laugh when all systems entropy due to greed, and control whores. Really, there's no safe place to go anymore.. basically, we're all fucked and so the best thing you can do is sit back and let the system take itself down. becuase if you dare challenge, say the US govt. you're a terrorist and you're gonna sit in jail for the rest of your days without hearing or any actual rights.. Hitler would be proud.
only reason I'd use ham radio is for a last resort or communication, too bad they're so expensive. too bad bsd is dying, it has some guts to it and it did have a lot of influence over linux. tis a shame, really. I have a question, is there any way you can connect your computer through ham radio to connect to a ham radio server on another part of the world and keep some speed?
I cant wait for it to suddenly just sit there when it's told to follow and say "I'm sorry Junichiro, I'm afraid I can't do that."
exactly. I get criticized for being a linux "fanboy" becuase I point ou the fact that people say how they like restarting becuase it keeps their computer "nice and fresh" If you have a truly stable system, you'd be able to pull off 1 year, 2 year uptimes without any problems, and the system would still be "fresh"
P2P has only created a %7 loss in the industry, that's right.. 7%. not a huge number either, and the artists who are bitching, right after they complain how they're going poor, they buy a new load of sports cars. it's crap, it's greed at its finest, people got tired of the greed and found a way to extend their middle fingers, so now these greedy companies want the government to supress the people into being a controlled permanent money flow. this is where mainstream music is about to die. what;s funny is that there was also a chart showing how much cd sales have tripled from p2p. The real problem are the real pirates, who copy cd's and then redistribute them for a lower price, etc. that's what has been hurting the industry for many years.. but, the industry didnt bitch back then.. so, I think it's just whoever's the easier target, and all that is going to happen in light of this is that the mainstream music industry is going to go broke eventually, people will get wise and listen to IUMA and indie labels. you'll still have the brainwashed people who will back the industry to the grave, becuase they're used to being controlled by someone much "bigger" than them.. and really, you think about it, the industry is below us becuase their existance relies on us. same with actors and actresses, and all of the media. same with the government and all the major companies. we made them, and they forget, we can destroy them, they're trying to make so we cant now, but, you really cant whip the human will down into doing that, well, at least, not right away.
and with this, SOON, we will be living in pink sacs of goo and wired into a virtual world once the machines have found out they cant be stopped by us.. ok, sorry, I had to crack a lame Matrix joke in there some time.. anyways, this seems cool, but like I've said before...why? why make something that cant be stopped and can learn? and why they keep pushing artificial intelligence is beyond me, I can understand limited artificial intelligence, where they learn to an extent, but are "blocked" from learning how to, say.. hurt people and will stop if the thought of hurting others came to mind, etc. of course, that depends on their definition of "hurting" people. someone better put those kinds of safeguards on if we're gonna screw with artificial intelligence.
what's the real point of this? really. "WOO HOO! I've made a computer even more smarter than a human!" big deal. Really, Where's the real need to this? I mean, if you have a chip that possibly cannot be beaten, then, why have it around? where's the fun in that? What use will it bring? If they created a board that could fix storage and resource issues in a machine, or created perfect voice recognition? It's neat that they created this, but for what real reason? to play some world chess champ, and that's it? where will these go into production? the average person doesnt play chess, The people that do usually cant beat it right and left, and there are very few people that could even give this some challenge, to make it appealing they would have to dumb it down. So, what's the use of such a device?
the only thing keeping debian from being another faceless OS out there is its packaging system and stability record. however, the cost of stability comes at lack of updated software. so you end up downloading the non-stable software anyways, so, what's the point of that? only thing that makes it truly great is the apt-get system. its packaging system is much nicer than RPM.. personally I dislike rpm. it's stingy and sometimes more complicated than it should be.. with debian's system it's like, when you select source, you get the damn source code, you dont get a package that you edit files in then rebuild and then install. personally, if opensource wants to free people from microsoft matrix, they gotta appeal to these users, for some people in opnsource, this is a daunting task becuase they cant go below their level of experience, so what you gotta do is test various systems with certain points that offer the greatest ease.. apt-get would be perfect as the dominant packaging system in most linux distros. an installer much like slackware's would make the almost perfect install (blue linux has a nice easy to understand installer as well) things like that are what are going to make the next revolutionary distro. debian is antiquated in many ways. most people I know get it for either 2 things: to be "elite and cool" or for the packaging system. debian would be nothing without it. seeing an apt-get system replace other packaging systems within major linxu distributions would be a nice change. Also, may I point out that really, in the end, linux is linux, each distribution is just a different profile of packages wrapped around a kernel.
that possibly one of the anti-virus groups might have deployed this as a test? I have been pondering the idea of such a worm to exist, that possibly someone would eventually create a worm that does good, hell, let's see more of this.
we document a whole new set of sexual positions using WOOKIES! XXX!!!HOT WOOKIE SMUT!!!XXX what's sad is there're probably a website somewhere for that too.
They might be commies, but at least they have the right idea with software. (eg, getting away from billy bob)
grab an X-serv and then install linux over the mac osx stuff.. voila. best of both worlds.
personally, I dont think pda's will replace the conventional computer... they'll just be another accessory to the computer, though mobos are getting smaller and embedded systems are becoming popular.. I think people will still want towers or similar types of cases to modify and add power to..now.. for typical user.. pda's will prolly be another cell phone thing.. for hardcore computer geeks.. pc's will still be a major thing.. and pda's will be a side thing. personally, I couldnt sit there squinting my eyes at a tiny-ass screen all day.. maybe when cd's are are the size of cheerios and hard drives are even smaller and pda's can display holographic displays... then MAYBE.. but we still need the conventional keyboard, becuase really, even if voice command stuff comes into play, you still need keyboards to have manual control. there's just some things that need to stay.
it's the rise of the real life furries!! EVERYONE RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!! I'll get the shotguns. yeah.. this reminds me of that movie.. the island of dr. something something.. cant remember the damn name of the doctor.. who created animal/human hybrids.. this just shows how much free time scientists have. and how most of them need to be shot in the chest.