Just because it doesn't occur in future releases, doesn't mean its been fixed. Unless your arguing that staying current is the only way to avoid exploits, then your making a strong argument that the TCO of Open Source should be sung from the moutain top.
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Seriously, as a person that doesn't follow such things as closly as others....
How much *space garbage* is there? How much of it will burn up on re-entry (given time)? How much is too large or in too high an orbit?
I would think, considering the size of space we've contributing very little garbage with the most being in some sort of earth orbit. With all the NASA/USSR satellites plus all the now commerical (communications, GPS, etc) we have to have.... what?, a hundred or so devices up there?
The leak of the code scares the shit out of me. We've had some rather nasty security bits on the net lately and this is not a reassuring development.
will increase the time I have to spend securing my system. although true, my main target in such a suit would MS itself for (1) not securing the code properly (2) recent stories (and past ones) of them sitting on security patches for months on end.
If someone broke into my house and I followed my handbook and best practice about securing my house and it was STILL penetrated I want to go after the security document, not the intruder (the intruder would be handled by the criminal courts, my case is civil and monetary in nature since everytime some BS exploit is released and MS hasn't a patch my company is spending money to monitor and sort things out.
Vary rarely will you see a class-action suit against an individual (I can't recall one, just ones against companies when their neglegence is going to lead to a large cash settlement..... I wonder how the MS lobbyest have protected them from such action)
Your the naive one. Sure, some get away with it, but once the Feds are brought it their success rate is pretty high. We're not talking about the theft of your grandmother's recipes here. Its freaking Microsoft and I'm sure with their deep pockets they might be able to turn your friends, *reformed* hackers and a legion of reward money hounds on to you outside the FBI investigation to get results
Its not like in Dec of 2001 the FBI started a cybercrime division or anything... its not like judges aren't issuing federal wire tapping warranta or anything...
Unfortunatly for some, there are many music freeloaders out there that shared your view of the liklihood of getting caught, go ask them how naive they were, or better yet, ask their lawyers.
*Businesses* have no problem forking out over $500 for Blackberrys. When I say business I mean the execs who never hear the word *NO* when requesting their gadgets. All you'd have to do it raffle a handful of things away when enough suits are around and companies in the US will be signing support agreements in no time.
If Mac OS X ran on x86, it stands to reason the parent, myself and many others might give it a go. If you could run Mac OS X on cheap, available and upgradable hardware it would stand to reason that it would have a greater desktop share. Being that some out there view Apples as cost prohibitive. I feel the parent is on-topic, even if poorly presented/worded.
I'm not sure how to articulate the contents of the article (as demostrated when I submitted it a good hour before this story was posted and it was rejected). Rather than spin or taint it with my own point of view I C&P'ed it.
I provided links so people could validate the source as I don't want anyone to think this is my work. The real reason I C&Ped it, is to prevent a good site from being slashdotted.
You may now return to masturbating in your office, good luck with that.... personally, I'm not sure that validates your claim of having a life.
Yesterday's Windows source code leak tracks back to long-term Microsoft
partner Mainsoft, according to Betanews.
An
analysis of the code finds numerous references to Mainsoft's MainWin
product, while a post-crash core dump file provides a possible smoking pistol
pointing to a Linux machine likely to have been used by Mainsoft technology
director Eyal Alaluf.
Mainsoft tells the world that Mainsoft has unprecedented access to Microsoft
Windows source code enabling the industry's highest level of Windows compliancy
on Unix - quite.
The company was one of two Unix-Windows interoperability specialists which had
access to Windows source code under the WISE (Windows Interface Source
Environment) programme, the other being Bristol. This three-cornered
relationship and the circumstances which led Bristol to mount an antitrust suit
against Microsoft are covered in possibly excessive detail
here. But the rise of Linux and its growing perception by Microsoft as the
threat means that almost four years on this old argument is acquiring renewed
relevance.
As regards yesterday's escape, the circumstantial evidence would point to it
having been an everyday story of cockups among coding folk. Companies licensed
to build products via access to Windows source code are going to be using
Windows source code, and it seems inescapable that they are going to put this
source code on machines in order to use it. Prior to Microsoft deciding that
source code was so darned important and secret that it was going to make a big
deal of letting people look at it and spin it up into a Linux countermeasure,
source code was just stuff, and we very much doubt Mainsoft staff felt the need
to don bunny suits and submit to strip-searches prior to working with it.
You work with other people's source code because you have a need and a licence,
and if you don't have a licence you don't work with it, because what you've used
will show up in the products you build and you'll get fingered and sued. And if
you are offered unlicensed access you're smart not to even look at it, because
simply knowing how the stuff works compromises your ability to produce products
independently, and renders you difficult/dangerous to employ in the relevant
field.
That is why source code tends not to leak - it is not because it's kept in a big
safe, no matter what Microsoft's marketing people tell us to the contrary.
Back at the partner with the source code licence, time passes, machines with the
code on board change users, change owners, people lose track of where they put
all the darn copies, what happened to the darn machines until... oops. It meets
someone who knows what it is and they post it.
If this supposition is even partially right then we presume that the someone in
question is at least aware of the possibility that it might be possible to
construct an audit trail based on where a particular PC went, and that they
could therefore find themselves in some considerable trouble over the matter.
But as far as the rest of us are concerned, it's important to hold onto the fact
that this leak is only important because Microsoft claims its source code is
hugely important secret sauce/coke formula.
Whereas it's not really, it's just stuff, and not all of the stuff either.
There's an outside chance it could give you information about how you could
screw up the world's Windows installations, but the world's virus writers appear
to be doing that splendidly without recourse to source access, and carrying on
without such access is probably quicker than trying to benefit from it. Finally,
this is very important: If you propose to continue working in the IT
industry, and somebody offers y
If its true (conspiracy theorists) that MS was behind the 50M cash investment into SCO a while back, then its possible MS is trying to provoke the playgournd wimp into picking a fight with the Big Blue bully for the sole purpose of being there first after getting his ass kicked. Its not out of the realm of possibility that the MS world domination plans include purchasing UNIX IP just to burn it in some pagan ritual.
Internet Explorer is commonly known and integrated in the great majority of computers as it comes bundled with Windows, that's not all that great of an observation.
It's a standard anybody in the web business programs to I hope you don't mean program as write code, but subscibe to in a business sense. If that is the case, your rephrasing your first point and it adds no value to a contradiction to the article.
Mozilla could be a contender, but it's split into a million project as a mozilla user, i know of the current browser (1.6?), Firefox (lets remember this IS a beta we're talking about), Thunderbird - a mail client, and some MAC OSX only broswer that I'm too lazy to go get the name of. My point is, that's 4 projects, please name the other 999,996 please cause I'd like to explore their other products.
even AOL is still using Internet Explorer my users have Netscape via AOL.
I agree that IE is the ocean for those vast majority of users who rather then look for an alternative will take whatever MS shoves down their throats and maybe that is the only perspective you have. I dare you to try FireFox, if its not your default browser by the end of the day I'd be surprised. Yes, it lacks in some MS-only inclusions, but I logged into OWA and Sharepoint just fine with it.
Do the SCO lawyers think the judge is an idiot? As I was reading it, I kept getting anoyed with his damn analogies.
For unknown reasons, I want to climb a ladder and see what rungs 16 and 17 are all about.
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As far as the GUI, I'm referring to Lisa, not necessarily the concept of a GUI.
The mouse is more then hardware to the home user, its the primary interactive device with their PC (there aren't tons of dumb users being click happy for nothing).
I encourage you to research on your own or watch Pirates of Silicon Valley.
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· Score: 2, Funny
As well, he *hacked* the mouse away from IBM and *hacked* the GUI away from Apple.
And to really get your bang out of office, you'll need to run Exchange, which of course requires Active Directory...... you see a pattern here?
Having MS Office on Linux isn't the problem, users who believe they HAVE to have MS Office is. That bit of software your business needs, just needs to be rewritten to open standards and if enough clients start to leave SoftwareCompanyX, believe me, they'll write it. Or find the same integreation with Evolution.
Question - since MSJVM isn't available for distribution (from MS, I know what I can find with google) why hasn't that piece of software been rewritten to work better with Sun VM? You need to demand more from your vendors, or if you're going to drink the MS punch, don't make comments about migrating to Linux. I've migrating companies to linux and all were estatic with the final results. They were quite suprised how easy it was.
Netcraft says Apache on Linux, I'm betting (according to SCO) they're not up to snuff on licensing. Maybe SCO should contact them and ask for a piece of the action.
Those moronic few have caused enough headaches for several states/cities to make driving & talking on a cell phone ILLEGAL. Do you really think those communities are going to allow you watch TV and drive?
I was once ticketed for having headphones on even though I had not committed any traffic/moving violations.
I agree, having worked for several large companies in varying industries... CCNA is really what you should pursue. I loved college but working in IT very few people have related degrees. Of course, working in IT for a bank is different then working as engineer who is building the next generation equipment or protocols but I would guess those elite jobs are few and far between.
When you signed up for the that free pr0n download, bible, magazine, gamespy account.... there is a check box. You prolly unchecked it thinking you were in the clear and not signing up for anything, but next time - read the text next to the box. Sometimes they say leave this box checked if you don't want our newsletter or some other crap.
We're all signed up for some shit or another, my defense is a dummy hotmail account I use on such things, I let it collect all the bulk and then I can report it all as spam (or just use some M$ disk space), either way it doesn't bother too much.
Fark is nothing more then a RSS feed, big whoop. When I CAN get to it (blocked at work) its nothing more then clickable headlines. For that, I will stick with The Hun MmmmmMMMMmmm the hunnnnnn
With MS producing the Xbox's OS, is it safe to assume they'll be porting or building with the 2003 (or similar) kernel on PPC processors? Now, if we could just convince Jobs to port/build a MAC OS X to i386.
Utah merely consolidated and forwarded ALL public (along with those private ones Law Enforcement had) records on to them. That doesn't mean your local law enforcement, DMV, Social Security office, pension management, etc isn't already doing the same. This Seisint Inc does quite a bit (and more then just Law Enforcement) database management.
Just because you don't live in Utah doesn't mean you don't have something with them. I know my mortgage company holds some database or another with them.
I would think, since they offer services such as
Law enforcement
Risk management
Fraud detection
Identity verification
Insurance investigations
Legal research
Customer data hygiene and integration
Skip tracing and asset identification , that they do cross referencing among all their databases the same as the credit companies, people finding services and so forth.
Cept naturally that the article was an easy read that didn't require an anology at all, if you wish to visualize a story feel free. But that doesn't mean we want to hear about it.
Slashdot Mirror
Just because it doesn't occur in future releases, doesn't mean its been fixed. Unless your arguing that staying current is the only way to avoid exploits, then your making a strong argument that the TCO of Open Source should be sung from the moutain top.
How much *space garbage* is there? How much of it will burn up on re-entry (given time)? How much is too large or in too high an orbit?
I would think, considering the size of space we've contributing very little garbage with the most being in some sort of earth orbit. With all the NASA/USSR satellites plus all the now commerical (communications, GPS, etc) we have to have.... what?, a hundred or so devices up there?
The leak of the code scares the shit out of me. We've had some rather nasty security bits on the net lately and this is not a reassuring development.
will increase the time I have to spend securing my system. although true, my main target in such a suit would MS itself for (1) not securing the code properly (2) recent stories (and past ones) of them sitting on security patches for months on end.
If someone broke into my house and I followed my handbook and best practice about securing my house and it was STILL penetrated I want to go after the security document, not the intruder (the intruder would be handled by the criminal courts, my case is civil and monetary in nature since everytime some BS exploit is released and MS hasn't a patch my company is spending money to monitor and sort things out.
Vary rarely will you see a class-action suit against an individual (I can't recall one, just ones against companies when their neglegence is going to lead to a large cash settlement..... I wonder how the MS lobbyest have protected them from such action)
Its not like in Dec of 2001 the FBI started a cybercrime division or anything... its not like judges aren't issuing federal wire tapping warranta or anything...
Unfortunatly for some, there are many music freeloaders out there that shared your view of the liklihood of getting caught, go ask them how naive they were, or better yet, ask their lawyers.
*Businesses* have no problem forking out over $500 for Blackberrys. When I say business I mean the execs who never hear the word *NO* when requesting their gadgets. All you'd have to do it raffle a handful of things away when enough suits are around and companies in the US will be signing support agreements in no time.
If Mac OS X ran on x86, it stands to reason the parent, myself and many others might give it a go. If you could run Mac OS X on cheap, available and upgradable hardware it would stand to reason that it would have a greater desktop share. Being that some out there view Apples as cost prohibitive. I feel the parent is on-topic, even if poorly presented/worded.
I provided links so people could validate the source as I don't want anyone to think this is my work. The real reason I C&Ped it, is to prevent a good site from being slashdotted.
You may now return to masturbating in your office, good luck with that.... personally, I'm not sure that validates your claim of having a life.
C&P for your convenience..
Yesterday's Windows source code leak tracks back to long-term Microsoft partner Mainsoft, according to Betanews. An analysis of the code finds numerous references to Mainsoft's MainWin product, while a post-crash core dump file provides a possible smoking pistol pointing to a Linux machine likely to have been used by Mainsoft technology director Eyal Alaluf.
Mainsoft tells the world that Mainsoft has unprecedented access to Microsoft Windows source code enabling the industry's highest level of Windows compliancy on Unix - quite.
The company was one of two Unix-Windows interoperability specialists which had access to Windows source code under the WISE (Windows Interface Source Environment) programme, the other being Bristol. This three-cornered relationship and the circumstances which led Bristol to mount an antitrust suit against Microsoft are covered in possibly excessive detail here. But the rise of Linux and its growing perception by Microsoft as the threat means that almost four years on this old argument is acquiring renewed relevance.
As regards yesterday's escape, the circumstantial evidence would point to it having been an everyday story of cockups among coding folk. Companies licensed to build products via access to Windows source code are going to be using Windows source code, and it seems inescapable that they are going to put this source code on machines in order to use it. Prior to Microsoft deciding that source code was so darned important and secret that it was going to make a big deal of letting people look at it and spin it up into a Linux countermeasure, source code was just stuff, and we very much doubt Mainsoft staff felt the need to don bunny suits and submit to strip-searches prior to working with it.
You work with other people's source code because you have a need and a licence, and if you don't have a licence you don't work with it, because what you've used will show up in the products you build and you'll get fingered and sued. And if you are offered unlicensed access you're smart not to even look at it, because simply knowing how the stuff works compromises your ability to produce products independently, and renders you difficult/dangerous to employ in the relevant field.
That is why source code tends not to leak - it is not because it's kept in a big safe, no matter what Microsoft's marketing people tell us to the contrary.
Back at the partner with the source code licence, time passes, machines with the code on board change users, change owners, people lose track of where they put all the darn copies, what happened to the darn machines until... oops. It meets someone who knows what it is and they post it.
If this supposition is even partially right then we presume that the someone in question is at least aware of the possibility that it might be possible to construct an audit trail based on where a particular PC went, and that they could therefore find themselves in some considerable trouble over the matter. But as far as the rest of us are concerned, it's important to hold onto the fact that this leak is only important because Microsoft claims its source code is hugely important secret sauce/coke formula.
Whereas it's not really, it's just stuff, and not all of the stuff either. There's an outside chance it could give you information about how you could screw up the world's Windows installations, but the world's virus writers appear to be doing that splendidly without recourse to source access, and carrying on without such access is probably quicker than trying to benefit from it. Finally, this is very important: If you propose to continue working in the IT industry, and somebody offers y
Wouldn't that be nice... Skunkworks code ;)
replace patents with WMD.... are you suggesting we invade Redmond and oust the evil dictator?
If its true (conspiracy theorists) that MS was behind the 50M cash investment into SCO a while back, then its possible MS is trying to provoke the playgournd wimp into picking a fight with the Big Blue bully for the sole purpose of being there first after getting his ass kicked. Its not out of the realm of possibility that the MS world domination plans include purchasing UNIX IP just to burn it in some pagan ritual.
I wish OSS had better merchandising, the current crop of SuSE hats/shirts is weak and I'd love to sport the lizard to help promote them.
It's a standard anybody in the web business programs to I hope you don't mean program as write code, but subscibe to in a business sense. If that is the case, your rephrasing your first point and it adds no value to a contradiction to the article.
Mozilla could be a contender, but it's split into a million project as a mozilla user, i know of the current browser (1.6?), Firefox (lets remember this IS a beta we're talking about), Thunderbird - a mail client, and some MAC OSX only broswer that I'm too lazy to go get the name of. My point is, that's 4 projects, please name the other 999,996 please cause I'd like to explore their other products.
even AOL is still using Internet Explorer my users have Netscape via AOL.
I agree that IE is the ocean for those vast majority of users who rather then look for an alternative will take whatever MS shoves down their throats and maybe that is the only perspective you have. I dare you to try FireFox, if its not your default browser by the end of the day I'd be surprised. Yes, it lacks in some MS-only inclusions, but I logged into OWA and Sharepoint just fine with it.
For unknown reasons, I want to climb a ladder and see what rungs 16 and 17 are all about.
The mouse is more then hardware to the home user, its the primary interactive device with their PC (there aren't tons of dumb users being click happy for nothing).
I encourage you to research on your own or watch Pirates of Silicon Valley.
As well, he *hacked* the mouse away from IBM and *hacked* the GUI away from Apple.
Having MS Office on Linux isn't the problem, users who believe they HAVE to have MS Office is. That bit of software your business needs, just needs to be rewritten to open standards and if enough clients start to leave SoftwareCompanyX, believe me, they'll write it. Or find the same integreation with Evolution.
Question - since MSJVM isn't available for distribution (from MS, I know what I can find with google) why hasn't that piece of software been rewritten to work better with Sun VM? You need to demand more from your vendors, or if you're going to drink the MS punch, don't make comments about migrating to Linux. I've migrating companies to linux and all were estatic with the final results. They were quite suprised how easy it was.
Netcraft says Apache on Linux, I'm betting (according to SCO) they're not up to snuff on licensing. Maybe SCO should contact them and ask for a piece of the action.
I was once ticketed for having headphones on even though I had not committed any traffic/moving violations.
I agree, having worked for several large companies in varying industries... CCNA is really what you should pursue. I loved college but working in IT very few people have related degrees. Of course, working in IT for a bank is different then working as engineer who is building the next generation equipment or protocols but I would guess those elite jobs are few and far between.
We're all signed up for some shit or another, my defense is a dummy hotmail account I use on such things, I let it collect all the bulk and then I can report it all as spam (or just use some M$ disk space), either way it doesn't bother too much.
Fark is nothing more then a RSS feed, big whoop. When I CAN get to it (blocked at work) its nothing more then clickable headlines. For that, I will stick with The Hun MmmmmMMMMmmm the hunnnnnn
With MS producing the Xbox's OS, is it safe to assume they'll be porting or building with the 2003 (or similar) kernel on PPC processors? Now, if we could just convince Jobs to port/build a MAC OS X to i386.
Just because you don't live in Utah doesn't mean you don't have something with them. I know my mortgage company holds some database or another with them.
I would think, since they offer services such as Law enforcement Risk management Fraud detection Identity verification Insurance investigations Legal research Customer data hygiene and integration Skip tracing and asset identification , that they do cross referencing among all their databases the same as the credit companies, people finding services and so forth.
Cept naturally that the article was an easy read that didn't require an anology at all, if you wish to visualize a story feel free. But that doesn't mean we want to hear about it.