The success of Linux has been based by an internet-sauvy grass roots movement that created a whole community of like minded people. I think its the concept more then the name that can be credited.
As far as profits, the commerical releases of SuSE, RedHat, Mandrake, etc all have names that aren't easily confused with UNIX (where Lindows does mimic a commerical rival and desktop market monolopy owner).
Disney may or may not be tired, but they sure can market and target their collective asses off. Without the support of a MAJOR studio to market, promote, cross promote and leverage Pixar movies onto big screen across the planet they will be forced to create straight-to-video and television productions. If you feel a group of very skilled animators is going to get the product into the theatres I don't think you fully grasp how movies are made.
As to your third point.... all sequels suck so any Toy Story 3s and Finding Nemo Agains are doomed no matter how you slice it.
In defense, that really wasn't a serious suggestion. More of food for thought that in the desktop market (where office suites would seem to be), that Linux (or OSS) would need to have a single face to compete with MS. Professional women's basketball is a hard sell, when its presented in 2 or 3 different leagues and you split the core supporters, none of them will gain enough support to be feasible. Not that OSS is girls' B-Ball, just saying that when you want to make a dent in a market that has MS with 97% domination, maybe having splintered office suites isn't the path of success.
Don't get me wrong, without RedHat and Mandrake to compare against I wouldn't have fallen in love with SuSE, but as techies we're going to try things and tinker no matter what.
Agreed. I rather see the office suite developers of the world unite and improve OpenOffice. Personally, I've never like the KDE Office suite and most distro's include OO as the default.
How do you plant these flowers on top of mines without blasting yourself? Some sort of airbourne delivery?
You'd think with an expensive plant seed you'd want to target areas that mines are suspected, not all of Europe. Great idea tho, finally a true innovation.
What makes you think it won't last long? They filed suit on March 6, 2003, as we fast approach a year anniversary they've yet to produce evidence to IBM (afaik).
I think an important SCO question would be.... how will you celebrate the anniversary? I say we slashdot them with 24 hours of SCO only stories and comments.
Its been reported (too lazy to provide a link) that W. doesn't use email. He doesn't trust it, course in his position I'd have reservations if he time for email.
It seems the best the NASA guys are hoping for is evidence that there was once water on the planet. According to the news this would prove that life was once possible there. My questions is... what does that do for us?
Evidence that dinasaurs once roamed the earth isn't taking us towards bringing them back. From a casual observer this seems a pointless exercise, but I'm sure I'm just not informed enough, can someone help me out?
I was thinking the same thing. It seems with the price points of adding broadband to a household's existing cable service and the SBC Yahoo! DSL service I would have thought the number would be much, much higher.
But, keeping things in perspective, the SBC and AOL deals are relatively young and if this same study is done in a couple years I would expect more then 50% to be on high speed connections. The downfall of course is that this puts even more infected Windows machines on connections that will allow the next scripted exploit to smash us all.
you can't trademark a word in extremely common usag... yes, yes you can. You admit MS did it.
According to webster -
playmate - a companion in play
playboy - a man who lives a life devoted chiefly to the pursuit of pleasure
Neither of these words are synonymous or nearly so with naked women, sex, party jokes or anything else Playboy (the magazine) puslishes as magazine content. As I understand it Playboy came out in the late 40's/early 50's. So IYHO, prior to that (WW2, Great Depression, and back) Americans were speaking about women and sex with these words? I think not. I think they are synonmous now BECAUSE of the magazine.... which means the company is solely responsible for the creation of the association.
I don't know what Yahoo or Excite was advertising when they used the terms, but unless they were talking about men who's life pursuits are pleasure (and lets admit it, what man isn't?) or compainions in play then they are on the hook, change the damn ad, why fight it?
I think your confusing marketing techniques with purpose of marketing. Yes, marketing departments put in many hours to figure the best way to present a product to an audience they will have the most success with, but we've reached a point with Playboy and Playmates that blur brand recognition with the product. Do want me to xerox that document? Will that runny nose require a kleenex? When products domainate and earn name recognition they deserve it not to be trampled on by some marketing flunky looking for a shortcut.
contract contains a stipulation that he must also appear in Episodes 7, 8, and 9.
Seriously, will Mr. Mayhew live to meet these contact demands? Especially when you consider the 20 year (or so) gap between productions of 4-5-6 and 1-2-3.
True, I've noticed the Duke Blue Devils and New Jersey Devils are also aflicted by this terrible religious ignorance. Where for some reason the Anaheim Angles continue to prosper under His umbrella of tolerance and understanding.
I can totally understand updating or changing a logo to get attention or even seperate NetBSD from the other distros, but if anyone changes a logo because of stupid assumptions then I must abandon it based on principle. I fear deeply computer-illetirate people might view find it a symbol of evil because it runs on the a computer it must be Microsoft.
Understood, but then why make an HP-branded device? Can HP sell it cheaper then Apple, and if they do won't Apple want more for manufacturing to protect their own product from being undersold?
If HP can under sell them and create business, I wonder if they might venture into HP-branded iMacs, G5, etc?
Always been real happy with Dell and its replacement of busted laptop componets. Although this was as a corporate customer and if they need to replace other parts (the LCD in this case) to fix the problem, it was always warrantied work and no extra cost came to me because of it. I'm guessing the author is a home/personal user, which if the laptop was purchased new I'm surprised the replacement isn't warrantied (don't most come with 12 month warranties?).
I realize that is the Slashdot Correct thing to say, but it still seemed a blantant MS Bash (and promoted to "informative" to boot, tsk tsk).
I work and have worked in MS shops that were secure, stable, reliable, scalable and ran high performance/high demand database (SQL) and web (IIS) services to its financial customers.
I don't fault your POV, but MS has improved its responsiveness and I almost seperate Windows 2003 Server from its previous offerings because its more Linux like - disabled by default approach.
I think the acquisition of SuSE and Ximian are great moves for Novell, but I also think they're competing more with RH and IBM then MS at this point.
From my standpoint the SCO vs IBM over IP is wholly seperate (in my eyes) from SCO vs Google over the licensing of Linux. I see it the IBM case as the horse and the Google case as the cart.
If SCO goes after google, a well recognized name outside tech circles and gets thumped in it's first big, real court battle... it may force the "SCO Get Rich Train" right off the tracks before it really gets started.
I'm not a kernel developer either, but if Linux costs me $799 per proc to run, Windows and Apple become the cheaper alternative.
When was the last time you were on a college campus? Education is not a product of hard work. Yes, certain degrees require hard work to obtain, but what I see on campus are kids who've never had to work in their lives. They are merely in grades 13, 14, 15 etc. And for most students, college is a test in patience, money and working through weeder classes for a degree they'll never use other to fill a frame.
Not everyone has the LUXURY of taking 4 years off of life to pursue education. Those *non-traditional* students that aren't racking up loans and are working themselves through school are heros, but they are not the students to use as the average example.
Todays univerisites are pumping out too many liberal arts degrees, which is fine if your degree in Psychology leads to your a profession in psychology, but does that same degree demand you get more money working a help desk with someone who didn't go to university? But you feel *entitled* to more money, that's fine, I invite your DEMAND it during the hiring process, I know plenty of guys that'll be there to pick up your scraps and will work damn hard once in the door.
I say all this being a college grad and having gone back twice for additional degrees. Although none of them are in the area I work in, I barely mention them on my resume and don't feel they entitle me to anything.
These were all the same cries with blue collar, high paying automotive jobs were moving overseas... sure incentives came, but they were not enough to offset the savings in hiring cheaper labor in Mexico and elsewhere. Now that they are white collar technical jobs we will repeat the cycle, including the dissappointing conclusion that is sure to come. I don't think, as was the case with auto workers, there are enough incentives to make it up for the company, and if you there where, the tax hit to the cities will cost us in our communities with busing, trash removal, roads, etc etc...
Why does an education entitle you to anything?, let alone a good paying job. Wake up, once education became accesable to all, a degree isn't a golden ticket to success anymore. Now you need a degree to compete for the opportunity.
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The success of Linux has been based by an internet-sauvy grass roots movement that created a whole community of like minded people. I think its the concept more then the name that can be credited.
As far as profits, the commerical releases of SuSE, RedHat, Mandrake, etc all have names that aren't easily confused with UNIX (where Lindows does mimic a commerical rival and desktop market monolopy owner).
As to your third point.... all sequels suck so any Toy Story 3s and Finding Nemo Agains are doomed no matter how you slice it.
Don't get me wrong, without RedHat and Mandrake to compare against I wouldn't have fallen in love with SuSE, but as techies we're going to try things and tinker no matter what.
Agreed. I rather see the office suite developers of the world unite and improve OpenOffice. Personally, I've never like the KDE Office suite and most distro's include OO as the default.
You'd think with an expensive plant seed you'd want to target areas that mines are suspected, not all of Europe. Great idea tho, finally a true innovation.
I think an important SCO question would be.... how will you celebrate the anniversary? I say we slashdot them with 24 hours of SCO only stories and comments.
I heard in a movie once that anyone who got as far as a trial was pretty guilty of something and deserved the forced sodomy of a brief prison visit.
Membership to orkut is by invitation only.
If you have a friend who's a member of orkut, have them invite you to join.
Damn their elitest ways... didn't want to joing their stupid cult anyway *stomps off*
Its been reported (too lazy to provide a link) that W. doesn't use email. He doesn't trust it, course in his position I'd have reservations if he time for email.
It seems the best the NASA guys are hoping for is evidence that there was once water on the planet. According to the news this would prove that life was once possible there. My questions is... what does that do for us?
Evidence that dinasaurs once roamed the earth isn't taking us towards bringing them back. From a casual observer this seems a pointless exercise, but I'm sure I'm just not informed enough, can someone help me out?
But, keeping things in perspective, the SBC and AOL deals are relatively young and if this same study is done in a couple years I would expect more then 50% to be on high speed connections. The downfall of course is that this puts even more infected Windows machines on connections that will allow the next scripted exploit to smash us all.
According to webster -
playmate - a companion in play
playboy - a man who lives a life devoted chiefly to the pursuit of pleasure
Neither of these words are synonymous or nearly so with naked women, sex, party jokes or anything else Playboy (the magazine) puslishes as magazine content. As I understand it Playboy came out in the late 40's/early 50's. So IYHO, prior to that (WW2, Great Depression, and back) Americans were speaking about women and sex with these words? I think not. I think they are synonmous now BECAUSE of the magazine.... which means the company is solely responsible for the creation of the association.
I don't know what Yahoo or Excite was advertising when they used the terms, but unless they were talking about men who's life pursuits are pleasure (and lets admit it, what man isn't?) or compainions in play then they are on the hook, change the damn ad, why fight it?
I think your confusing marketing techniques with purpose of marketing. Yes, marketing departments put in many hours to figure the best way to present a product to an audience they will have the most success with, but we've reached a point with Playboy and Playmates that blur brand recognition with the product. Do want me to xerox that document? Will that runny nose require a kleenex? When products domainate and earn name recognition they deserve it not to be trampled on by some marketing flunky looking for a shortcut.
Seriously, will Mr. Mayhew live to meet these contact demands? Especially when you consider the 20 year (or so) gap between productions of 4-5-6 and 1-2-3.
I can totally understand updating or changing a logo to get attention or even seperate NetBSD from the other distros, but if anyone changes a logo because of stupid assumptions then I must abandon it based on principle. I fear deeply computer-illetirate people might view find it a symbol of evil because it runs on the a computer it must be Microsoft.
In Soviet Russia, Linux RUNS you!!, or something
SCO loses all money trying to protect their IP and is forced to sell all corporate assets.
MS buys UNIX patents for pennies on the peso and equipped with UNIX & Windows declares "Operation Freedom" vs Novell and their SuSE/Ximian alliance.
World domination is it's own motivation.
If HP can under sell them and create business, I wonder if they might venture into HP-branded iMacs, G5, etc?
Always been real happy with Dell and its replacement of busted laptop componets. Although this was as a corporate customer and if they need to replace other parts (the LCD in this case) to fix the problem, it was always warrantied work and no extra cost came to me because of it. I'm guessing the author is a home/personal user, which if the laptop was purchased new I'm surprised the replacement isn't warrantied (don't most come with 12 month warranties?).
I work and have worked in MS shops that were secure, stable, reliable, scalable and ran high performance/high demand database (SQL) and web (IIS) services to its financial customers.
I don't fault your POV, but MS has improved its responsiveness and I almost seperate Windows 2003 Server from its previous offerings because its more Linux like - disabled by default approach.
I think the acquisition of SuSE and Ximian are great moves for Novell, but I also think they're competing more with RH and IBM then MS at this point.
From my standpoint the SCO vs IBM over IP is wholly seperate (in my eyes) from SCO vs Google over the licensing of Linux. I see it the IBM case as the horse and the Google case as the cart.
If SCO goes after google, a well recognized name outside tech circles and gets thumped in it's first big, real court battle... it may force the "SCO Get Rich Train" right off the tracks before it really gets started.
I'm not a kernel developer either, but if Linux costs me $799 per proc to run, Windows and Apple become the cheaper alternative.
Not everyone has the LUXURY of taking 4 years off of life to pursue education. Those *non-traditional* students that aren't racking up loans and are working themselves through school are heros, but they are not the students to use as the average example.
Todays univerisites are pumping out too many liberal arts degrees, which is fine if your degree in Psychology leads to your a profession in psychology, but does that same degree demand you get more money working a help desk with someone who didn't go to university? But you feel *entitled* to more money, that's fine, I invite your DEMAND it during the hiring process, I know plenty of guys that'll be there to pick up your scraps and will work damn hard once in the door.
I say all this being a college grad and having gone back twice for additional degrees. Although none of them are in the area I work in, I barely mention them on my resume and don't feel they entitle me to anything.
Why does an education entitle you to anything?, let alone a good paying job. Wake up, once education became accesable to all, a degree isn't a golden ticket to success anymore. Now you need a degree to compete for the opportunity.