If you follow the civil disobedience [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Disobedience_(Thoreau)] set up by Thoreau you should only use it for what is morally right, but denied by law; so if you view killing someone morally right in a certain situation but the law says no, then you could call upon civil disobedience; in this case my answer, like the previous poster, would be "yes".
For example I view morally eating meat as a moral wrong, a form of murder; other people clearly do not - if I then had a moral that said that killing people who broke my moral code was right - I as such wouldn't mind such a law, but it wont work since too many people wont care very much for it, and continue to break it, bankrupting the law and making it pointless.
Normal human murder, especially murder committed by sane men and women who have reasoned it out, and done it for their own benefit (outside self defence) are for the normal human, moral monsters, especially if they have killed their children/parents or in general someone cute - and very much like you (a link to you strengthen the injustice and sense of a moral wrong).
Very few, hopefully none, can say that killing a person, outside of self defence, is morally right, and what is morals here? I like Kant, and Hume.
For the Kant The Categorical Imperative [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorical_imperative] and the law of universality fits in - that is would it be ok if everyone did as me? well if it was ok for everyone to kill people for their benefit (outside self defence) or at random, we would soon be wiped of this rock! can't be good that.
Hume, and the utilitarians [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilitarianism] are consequentialists and simply believe that the overall utility is what counts, that is does this act benefit the world or not? if not then don't - in general killing someone randomly does not benefit humanity, nor the world - though you could argue that it would be self defence for Gaea, and there would be fairly good defences against that - but as always the dogmas comes in and rock the boat - and do not doubt that people in war often have moral "rights" to do so in their mind - for moral it seems is not easily pinned down.
So why did I start with a no?
For you used the word murder, murder is a word that implies an immoral killing; thus I view the killing of animals for luxury purposes murder, an immoral act to me; while I do not view someone who has no choice but to become a cannibal to survive morally wrong at all (unless he was immoral to how he got to that sassy meat). Nor are war heroes in general considered murderers at all for example see Simo Häyhä [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_H%C3%A4yh%C3%A4].
So what is murder, and what is not? Clarification: in my mind the very word murder says that it is morally wrong; most people don't view eating non-human meat as a moral wrong, thus they will use words like killed, put-down or slaughtered; in war, again, it's killed, not murdered - murder is a moral wrong, euthanasia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia] and we do have people who kill their loved ones for mercy for various reasons today due to pain, and they view it as euthanasia, but in the law of most countries in the west it is viewed as murder - and I would hope that those who believe they have moral rights to do this dare follow the civil disobedience moral contract - and admit what they have done so that they can challenge the rules of today - for they if they do not view it as murder does not see a moral wrong with it.
So on abortion when someone say that abortion is murder, they don't mean a
Given that I share the same view, that is that the rapid development is causing huge rifts in china - and that china seems to act solely on stability when it comes to their politics towards the world at large (the expanse in their weapon program seems to be to further strengthen them by creating dependencies, and to furtherance their own military program).
So to me China seem to be searching for stability for themselves in their foreign affairs - i.e. nor for anyone else unless they in turn gain from it.
Now I'm only giving you my opinion, for since you seems to think it rubbish I would like to know why; given that you so aptly voiced your opinion I would like to see the logic behind it to if need to be change mine.
Now of course anyone that believes that China, or anyone else, state or person, acts out based solely on ONE desire is of course a fool, but I do believe that I can't with my current experience/knowledge find a better grouping then "selfish stability" ~ and I would of course love to negotiate this and further refine/change it - but for that I need more then a empty opinion that could be an unicorn in disguise.
Disclaimer: I'm humbly asking for forgiveness for my bad English, but hope that I have made myself understood.
The question goes deeper then that - can you trust the company that have lied more then once to cover up their wrong doings - to not do so again?
With T20 they claimed that they had punished him during the summer 2006, yet they denied that it had ever happened way into November, December - and to boot had not removed the BPO's in question until the public outcry, they kept deleting the threads about it then as well; until it was up on slashdot and digg.
Now a player can call up a GM to do his bidding by MSN, and it isn't even mentioned in their own rebuttal only that the reported banned over it had it coming due to several complaints.
Blatanly lies about a DoS attack - we are talking 4000 posts, that's close to one post per goon alone - oh my! Posts that carries data from the goons on website, a true DoS that, on the goons themselves!
So can you trust CCP, their in-house investigation that plays the victim card, skips bothersome accusations, and when said accusations are not made with fire, that is spamming the forums or going to/. and the like, just deletes them.
I think it's funny that you can't even google something right, the next time note that for example
"Re:How to Help Us - 3 Steps by goon america (Score:2) Tuesday October 21,..... (since the site is so sl by Lehk228 (Score:2) Tuesday October 21, @11:52PM..."
inclines that goon america is a separate user from Lehk228, and not of his writing, not that "goon america" and the poster "goon" are regular contributors in the google search you made- *ups*!
& sorry for the redundancy, but the idea that A (Lehk228)is a goon for defending goons; so would make me a goon, and I can't agree with that.
I didn't, but they showed their true black with the T20 affair, and now they "debunk" like children hoping to win people over.
They didn't even answer the questions on why someone can go around the petition system, and then in true fashion twist their tale - ex. they refused the allegations to be put forth on their own forums, and then as the open letter was reposted 4000 times (the goons where 3000 strong last I played, and more then GF are displeased with CCP), they closed down the forums. Forcing it out to slashdot etc. Of course now it's a regular DOS according to CCP; by an evil group of people wanting them harm to boot, and they are all innocent little lambs, well T20 isn't, but the rest are just letting him be because carebears give love, not hate.
Anyway if they are actually innocent in this, and I don't believe that they are, they screwed up royally PR wise, again - and while I would think twice about anything from SA-Goons, I'd think it over again if it was from CCP.
Not to mention that you kill people in EVE! now that is surly illegal out of the game, but clearly not within the game, and as such why would a con be any diffrent?
And we are not talking killing within equal consent in EVE, as most kills are ganks, in the real world most would fall under murder, even worse then just simple killing is it not.
You could argue that since you have a clone, and do not actually die, that it is not murder; but one should not forget that anything besides the rookie ships of EVE is worth ISK, some ships are worth alot of them to boot.
So lets tone it down and say that destroying ships in EVE is just destroying other peoples ISK, and then taking the left overs are just robbery and theft.
thats still illegal outside of EVE, but none argues that the pirates of EVE that rob people at gunpoint should be held to trial in our tangible world.
The con should be seen as just an other pvp kill, effective at that, but just as legit as it follows the rules of EVE, and any idea that loss of EVE ISK should carry in our world is banal, but if this idiocy should be enforced any other act however small should also be follow suit, quite the que that would create since thousands of ships are blown up daily.
agreed.
the thing is taking a ransom in EVE is higher risk then not - most of the time if the prey has friends in local he will call them while you ransom. Blowing up his ship and taking the loot is less risk, and often as much profit in the end.
So many old pirates in EVE ransom people with expensive ships, the rest they will blow up hope that it transporoted goods worth more then any ransom would give (example. shuttle ransom 8000 isk? t2 bpo 3 bil isk? the later is possible, though chanses are very slim - the first might happen any time but you are missing out on the chanse on the big drop if you do ransom).
As for pirates being afraid of 'fair' fights (not aimed at the parent post, but the grandpa post)- consider this they often have gank setup, hardly something to use in a 1v1 duel. More so you know what ship he flies, so fitting effective counter messures is not hard, while he can only trust you, hist last victim, to be truthful about what ship & modules you will fly. Further a pirate that lives by pirating needs to make a profit, well better or he will go broke - killing as much risk as possible is the sensible solution to this, thus avoiding 'fair' fights is norm, avoiding to carry uber gear is norm and this is while the rich pve:r don't live by pvp & can throw on fat gear etc.
A good example is my old stabber setup for hunting: a pure horror for frigs besides som AFs, but is a dead bird if anything larger gets it locked down. A duel with it against a frig is not a fair fight, as thats all it is supposed to do, while a duel against a cruiser or larger is suicide on my part - and again not a fair fight.
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Exactly, and while people did petition the GHSC nothing came out of it as in EVE it is even stated as a feature.
A feature that protects us from our own stupidity more then a GM can, example: EVE had a new scam a week ago when someone used IPOs to scam people for 25 bil ISK (GHSC took 30 bil or so, & destroyed more), as usual people petitioned it. Here comes the shock for the EVE community, the GMs caved in and restored 'order' in the anarchy of space, and the people went crazy - and the devs had talks & the anarchy that is EVE was restored once again, the scammer got his cash back and the rules was clarifed that scams is indeed valid.
So what GHSC did bring in the end was advertisment, & self regulation; while people complained it would be the death of EVE the growth curve from last year to now is telling something else (I would not claim GHSC is the reason, but the friends who have started playing since have all soaked up the story & loved what it brings to the game; even if they like to play nice)
Oh and people don't give away rights to corphangars anyone anymore ^^
I'm flying level 4 missions with friends and doing my part after 1 month of unfocused playing (I've mostly trained learning skills to get other skills faster later on) - with 1-2 days per week of playing I've reached a level where my frig can deal the damage it needs to do good, but mostly be able to help control the battle.
after just days you can do good in pvp with a focused learning of skills.
even is not a game where you need to sit around and grind for 3 years just to be competative.
Some information for the masses.
The BiS that was shutdown recently was hardly the BiS that made Planscape: Torment, nor the people that made Fallout in the first place - All the talent and bigwigs already left BiS to form companies like obsidian and Troika.
Troika have since had other publisher problems, first with sierra and weird demands on Arcanum, and then the one year long, or rather if you will short, development time on ToEE - a game they wanted to patch, but Atari at first did not want to pay for the patch, thus the Co8 patch for the game. When finally Atari buldged and agreed on paying for the patch, they kept it for testing for weeks, and then left it at that even if the game would really need a 2nd patch.
Besides that Troika fled Interplay back in the day, it would be kind of sad to see them fallback, even more so with the unstable ground Interplay is standing on, after all half the cash they earned recently "bringing them back from financial disaster" they owe in rent see
Games sell if they are good even without PR - TRUE.
the question you might want to ask yourself is this, will they sell enough to cover for the cost of production, and even more so when other games pour lots of cash into good/bad PR?
I'm sure companies and users all love sleeper hits; even if I do doubt that when it comes to some of the game developers needing cash before they can get that new contract for their next big thing (so many only have 1-2 projects going), while having a 30 woman/man team to feed. Alas I can't think of any game hitting it really big without good PR; PR being a sequel, banners, freecopies to the press etc.
...but just like that article said, I've seen some good games each year selling less then they should, games like freespace 2 or now BG'nE.
True - Not seeing that giving cheats to online games would ruin the experience for everyone is something not even the blind could claim to have done.
All those cheats for games before have been seen as something good for the community, or atleast acceptable, but this? No, the fact that they didn't see that ruining the experience for gamers not using the cheats, and alas also ruining the experience for the cheater - would backfire on them is the weird part. The only good part in this for the makers of the cheats is that many singleplayer gamers do not play online, and those of course have no serious need to stop buying gamecheats from namedcompanies, unless they want to show their disslike on the behalf of their fellow online gamers.
You need not always view it is fleeing the field when you move on. A classic example of this would be Miles Davis and the people that played in his bands, they all moved on, and most did create their own bands after. Now it was not perhaps all due to Miles, but he did help to evolve lots of upcoming bandleaders -. Not sure if I would dare give Sierra an unce of that status, but perhaps the individual developers should be given some likness to the muscians that played with miles, that is wanting to try otherthings, or perhaps sometimes just fleeing. And as they say - The grass is always greener on the otherside.
That said about Sierra, it's correct about people fleeing sierra - I would guess it goes down to support, and sierra seems to be loosing touch in the last years; while both Infogrames and Activision have a pretty good 3d party support, of course there are still conflicts (for example in the PR department).
Now mind you - more then one console game lets you save when you want. Lots of console games lets you CHOOSE wich level to play, but often requiring you to play through those levels before.
As for controllers you can have any design as long as you have the same buttons to trigger - the needed ones anyway. So plug in that arcade PS1 controller you loved into the GC (adapter needed) and it works.Or just plug in a keyboard - and it works as well - of course if you want to use more then the buttons normally on the controller for the console you are playing, the game devs better have added keyboard support - and some do.
Alas all this said alot of what you said is true - and no shame there - lots of games do have designs that avoids player control, and the low ram, etc can be a problem for some games on the consoles (now this depends on what you play for games). For some reason some people like those games though, as they don't need to ponder alot before digging into the gameplay etc - and personally I LOVE savespots as I LOVE the tension it brings - as I'll damn save if I can save, and that is a weakness for me as it cuts the throat of any tension the game might otherwise bring. But I would prefer this to be a option - memory card space problems or not. I hate movies you can't skip, or other scripted action where you do not have charge over the game etc.
THERE are also problems with PC games, mind that.
...but for some reason most people seems to take sides, and throw the stereotype of the other like rotten tomatos in their defence. In my previous post in this thread I suggested MARIOWARE. Inc. - try it, it even lets you pick btw 200 levels (once you have tried them through the gamemode of course!) - and even if you can't save during the games, none will care as they only lasts 3 seconds or less.
So Interplay have decided to go all out console in the future, already planning for Fallout Brotherhood of steel 2 aka FO PoS 2 - before the first have launched.
the problem is of course that they lack capital, and besides that are tangled up in various courtbattles delaying their X-mas games (FoBoS and Dark alliance 2) to january, not to mention jefferson that was canned due to IP problems with wizard of the coast. IPLY needs cash badly, and must stop it's own bleeding at the same time - and they simply decided that PC gamers can screw themselves, and jumped for console only.
Forget quality games from IPLY in the short future they have left, they need to milk everything they still got just to keep running and that will probably only last an other year.
too bad about FO3 though, I was somewhat hoping for that game to come Q4 next year.
Nintendo is moving up the ages with their ads - we see Viewtiful Joe ads and F-Zero etc, besides Nintendo shifting the logo from purple to silver/platina just so that they can appeal to the older gamers.
at the core though the games are often made for everyone, but they just missed such facts that yes people do not play the game before they buy them, and if the game looks to be for kids (with kids in the commercials, with toylike consoles and a purple kid like logo), and yes people do not want to show off a purple cube in their livingroom besides their metalic/black set of audio/video eq.
...anyway the ads angled for the "adult" view is coming out stronger now then before, and they are even pushing to get more adult games into the market - a move I don't know is good for the games, but is probably good for Nintendo.
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Personally I view the X-box as a so and so console, few orginial games that is not coming out for the PC and besides it looks like crap costs too much. The PS2 got good games in every category, and is essential of the three consoles for the general gamer, it got everything you need really. Now the GCn - in my eyes got the top of the crops in games, but barely, but so few that you better like the what Nintendo makes in games to really enjoy the console. For me the later 2 are essential, besides the Dreamcast and the GBA - all due to the games, but if I did not own a PC, I'd probably buy a X-box I would just need to mod it I guess
If the devs build the game to support more ways to play it then one (besides making a new character) it is fully possible on a console. Besides few games gets an active mod community, and even then most of the mods are crap, or just not good enough to warrant most peoples time where you have full games to play.
but see - there is also a trick to this, make a game one can play forever, and why would one want to buy a new one? like a selfgenerating book wont sell more then once per customer a game with endless possibilities will be the end of new games.
Now all this is more or less worthless knowlage - as depending on how you play your games and what games you play replayability will be diffrent from other people. for example I, knowing something about myself I draw upon this knowlage for this example, enjoy short and hard games, say the old school of shmups*, when played more then once - I would never play NWN more then once, or say FFX whatever - they tell a story and told once I often grow bored - you might enjoy playing NWN in diffrent ways, with diffrent mods - but D&D for me holds for some session and no more - while IKARUGA or TYRIAN holds forever, unless I beat the world and I wont (as I'm fairly bad at shmups).
you claim PC games lets people replay the games, and for me that doesn't work - I know there are mods for say JAGGED ALLIANCE 2, but I've tried them and they are not fun enough (sorry JA2 modders), and the NWN mods I tried that did tell a story all sucked (and I'm sure the rest of the world loved them - but that doesn't help me). Games like Counter Strike and online gaming is not for everyone (myself included) and those mods only give so much.
...and it all ends up pointing the same way - console games are winning and will continue to win the battle of media against the PC - even if you can mod it or not. The only games I still play on the PC are Turnbased strategy games, and they are on consoles as well (and fun, and large) - and besides there is more then enough games out there for me to play forever, without stoping, and who needs mods then? alas those that lacks the cash to buy more then one game per year (and does not crack or hack) might, but again are not the gamemakers more intrested in surviving (getting cash) then making you have a great time forever?
the end line for me is that mods are fun, I'm even helping some people with graphics etc - and it is a pro for the PC and a con for the console - but if you think that it will win the battle for the PCs benifit think again.
PS: I own a PC for gaming, a GC, a GBA SP, a PS2 and I'm gettign the later modded for imports from JAP and US. Playing F-Zero, Ikaruga, Psyvaria, Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution, Soul Calibur 2, Viewtiful joe, Dark Cloud 2, Final Fantasy TA, Super mario kart dubbel dash!!, Zelda: A link to the past, Castlevania: Circle of the moon, Castlevania: Harmony of dissonance, Guilty Gear X and for the PC Jagged Alliance 2 and Silent Storm, and I might pick up Civ 2 or Civ 3 again.
that is all for now, getting 2 more games next week - the list might show you that A. most games I play doesn't need modding (the action titles besides Viewtiful joe and Castlevania) are all either party or hi-score fun - all lasting for a good old time - and the other you can make what you want off, and B takes so long time to play through once that once you are through you are tired of the mechanics playing the game that you want something fresh and new, not just an other mod.
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* shoot em up - but as in 2d scrolling
that said I asume you are taking in german, french, and other european localizations, besides possible korean.
for more kid friendly games in europe you better change the language for each country.
sure you could only do games for the us and uk market, or hope that people can accept english even in places like germany, or france.
to contrast this Level-5 did an excellent english and jap version of their game dark cloud 2/dark chronicle.
I have had a lots of consoles through the years, and also a bunch of PCs - so here goes my take of the problem.
I don't play games that are fun to watch on the PC, I don't play quick fun games on the PC - I simply play games I enjoy playing alone (that is in my room alone) on the PC. Big games, 50+ hours games, you know the deal, and I never play PC games when friends are over, ever.
Console game on the otherhand are for me aimed at the opposite, even the SP games are games I can play with friends around, and it gets even better when we play a MP game and the party really starts. On the otherhand I don't play console games when I'm alone (besides a few gems) - and I would never play them online.
This is not only because of the games, or the machine directly, but how I play them - in my comfy alone corner for the PC or in the big sofa for the consoles. So I have no intention to sit in my corner when friends are over, but I'll be there when they ain't, and the opposite for the consoles.
so to sum it up, the culture around the systems benifits the PC for the online games, while the consoles suffer in this department - now I'm more or less never alone, wich makes the PC games suffer even more, but thats beyond online gaming.
I remember myself playing megaman 1-6. I loved them all, loved them, nothing was bad, and hearing the music from time to time only made me see clearly how great the series where!
lo' here comes gamespot, and I suddenly remember the awfull boxart, the worthless bosses and weapons in the 4+ games and I despair; my mind is at turmoil - what is this, how can I hold this series to the skies, long for 1-8 collection coming 2004, how?
This surreal feeling comes over me, that perhaps the kids where right, perhaps I'm wrong, and all those oldies I still care for in my heart, are not really good, but boring and worthless; I whimper.
...And yet playing megaman Zero today makes me only remember the goodness of then, and hopefully I'll see it again 2004 beating flashman, gutsman, elecman, cutman again, my nemises from the past.
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but let me add some light to murder.
If you follow the civil disobedience [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Disobedience_(Thoreau)] set up by Thoreau you should only use it for what is morally right, but denied by law; so if you view killing someone morally right in a certain situation but the law says no, then you could call upon civil disobedience; in this case my answer, like the previous poster, would be "yes".
For example I view morally eating meat as a moral wrong, a form of murder; other people clearly do not - if I then had a moral that said that killing people who broke my moral code was right - I as such wouldn't mind such a law, but it wont work since too many people wont care very much for it, and continue to break it, bankrupting the law and making it pointless.
Normal human murder, especially murder committed by sane men and women who have reasoned it out, and done it for their own benefit (outside self defence) are for the normal human, moral monsters, especially if they have killed their children/parents or in general someone cute - and very much like you (a link to you strengthen the injustice and sense of a moral wrong).
Very few, hopefully none, can say that killing a person, outside of self defence, is morally right, and what is morals here? I like Kant, and Hume.
For the Kant The Categorical Imperative [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorical_imperative] and the law of universality fits in - that is would it be ok if everyone did as me? well if it was ok for everyone to kill people for their benefit (outside self defence) or at random, we would soon be wiped of this rock! can't be good that.
Hume, and the utilitarians [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilitarianism] are consequentialists and simply believe that the overall utility is what counts, that is does this act benefit the world or not? if not then don't - in general killing someone randomly does not benefit humanity, nor the world - though you could argue that it would be self defence for Gaea, and there would be fairly good defences against that - but as always the dogmas comes in and rock the boat - and do not doubt that people in war often have moral "rights" to do so in their mind - for moral it seems is not easily pinned down.
So why did I start with a no?
For you used the word murder, murder is a word that implies an immoral killing; thus I view the killing of animals for luxury purposes murder, an immoral act to me; while I do not view someone who has no choice but to become a cannibal to survive morally wrong at all (unless he was immoral to how he got to that sassy meat). Nor are war heroes in general considered murderers at all for example see Simo Häyhä [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_H%C3%A4yh%C3%A4].
So what is murder, and what is not?
Clarification: in my mind the very word murder says that it is morally wrong; most people don't view eating non-human meat as a moral wrong, thus they will use words like killed, put-down or slaughtered; in war, again, it's killed, not murdered - murder is a moral wrong, euthanasia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia] and we do have people who kill their loved ones for mercy for various reasons today due to pain, and they view it as euthanasia, but in the law of most countries in the west it is viewed as murder - and I would hope that those who believe they have moral rights to do this dare follow the civil disobedience moral contract - and admit what they have done so that they can challenge the rules of today - for they if they do not view it as murder does not see a moral wrong with it.
So on abortion when someone say that abortion is murder, they don't mean a
Given that I share the same view, that is that the rapid development is causing huge rifts in china - and that china seems to act solely on stability when it comes to their politics towards the world at large (the expanse in their weapon program seems to be to further strengthen them by creating dependencies, and to furtherance their own military program).
So to me China seem to be searching for stability for themselves in their foreign affairs - i.e. nor for anyone else unless they in turn gain from it.
Now I'm only giving you my opinion, for since you seems to think it rubbish I would like to know why; given that you so aptly voiced your opinion I would like to see the logic behind it to if need to be change mine.
Now of course anyone that believes that China, or anyone else, state or person, acts out based solely on ONE desire is of course a fool, but I do believe that I can't with my current experience/knowledge find a better grouping then "selfish stability" ~ and I would of course love to negotiate this and further refine/change it - but for that I need more then a empty opinion that could be an unicorn in disguise.
Disclaimer: I'm humbly asking for forgiveness for my bad English, but hope that I have made myself understood.
The question goes deeper then that - can you trust the company that have lied more then once to cover up their wrong doings - to not do so again?
With T20 they claimed that they had punished him during the summer 2006, yet they denied that it had ever happened way into November, December - and to boot had not removed the BPO's in question until the public outcry, they kept deleting the threads about it then as well; until it was up on slashdot and digg.
Now a player can call up a GM to do his bidding by MSN, and it isn't even mentioned in their own rebuttal only that the reported banned over it had it coming due to several complaints.
Blatanly lies about a DoS attack - we are talking 4000 posts, that's close to one post per goon alone - oh my! Posts that carries data from the goons on website, a true DoS that, on the goons themselves!
So can you trust CCP, their in-house investigation that plays the victim card, skips bothersome accusations, and when said accusations are not made with fire, that is spamming the forums or going to /. and the like, just deletes them.
I think it's funny that you can't even google something right, the next time note that for example
"Re:How to Help Us - 3 Steps by goon america (Score:2) Tuesday October 21, ..... (since the site is so sl by Lehk228 (Score:2) Tuesday October 21, @11:52PM ..."
inclines that goon america is a separate user from Lehk228, and not of his writing, not that "goon america" and the poster "goon" are regular contributors in the google search you made- *ups*!
& sorry for the redundancy, but the idea that A (Lehk228)is a goon for defending goons; so would make me a goon, and I can't agree with that.
I didn't, but they showed their true black with the T20 affair, and now they "debunk" like children hoping to win people over.
They didn't even answer the questions on why someone can go around the petition system, and then in true fashion twist their tale - ex. they refused the allegations to be put forth on their own forums, and then as the open letter was reposted 4000 times (the goons where 3000 strong last I played, and more then GF are displeased with CCP), they closed down the forums. Forcing it out to slashdot etc. Of course now it's a regular DOS according to CCP; by an evil group of people wanting them harm to boot, and they are all innocent little lambs, well T20 isn't, but the rest are just letting him be because carebears give love, not hate.
Anyway if they are actually innocent in this, and I don't believe that they are, they screwed up royally PR wise, again - and while I would think twice about anything from SA-Goons, I'd think it over again if it was from CCP.
3 ex-EVE playerNot to mention that you kill people in EVE! now that is surly illegal out of the game, but clearly not within the game, and as such why would a con be any diffrent?
And we are not talking killing within equal consent in EVE, as most kills are ganks, in the real world most would fall under murder, even worse then just simple killing is it not.
You could argue that since you have a clone, and do not actually die, that it is not murder; but one should not forget that anything besides the rookie ships of EVE is worth ISK, some ships are worth alot of them to boot.
So lets tone it down and say that destroying ships in EVE is just destroying other peoples ISK, and then taking the left overs are just robbery and theft.
thats still illegal outside of EVE, but none argues that the pirates of EVE that rob people at gunpoint should be held to trial in our tangible world.
The con should be seen as just an other pvp kill, effective at that, but just as legit as it follows the rules of EVE, and any idea that loss of EVE ISK should carry in our world is banal, but if this idiocy should be enforced any other act however small should also be follow suit, quite the que that would create since thousands of ships are blown up daily.
agreed. the thing is taking a ransom in EVE is higher risk then not - most of the time if the prey has friends in local he will call them while you ransom. Blowing up his ship and taking the loot is less risk, and often as much profit in the end. So many old pirates in EVE ransom people with expensive ships, the rest they will blow up hope that it transporoted goods worth more then any ransom would give (example. shuttle ransom 8000 isk? t2 bpo 3 bil isk? the later is possible, though chanses are very slim - the first might happen any time but you are missing out on the chanse on the big drop if you do ransom). As for pirates being afraid of 'fair' fights (not aimed at the parent post, but the grandpa post)- consider this they often have gank setup, hardly something to use in a 1v1 duel. More so you know what ship he flies, so fitting effective counter messures is not hard, while he can only trust you, hist last victim, to be truthful about what ship & modules you will fly. Further a pirate that lives by pirating needs to make a profit, well better or he will go broke - killing as much risk as possible is the sensible solution to this, thus avoiding 'fair' fights is norm, avoiding to carry uber gear is norm and this is while the rich pve:r don't live by pvp & can throw on fat gear etc. A good example is my old stabber setup for hunting: a pure horror for frigs besides som AFs, but is a dead bird if anything larger gets it locked down. A duel with it against a frig is not a fair fight, as thats all it is supposed to do, while a duel against a cruiser or larger is suicide on my part - and again not a fair fight.
Exactly, and while people did petition the GHSC nothing came out of it as in EVE it is even stated as a feature. A feature that protects us from our own stupidity more then a GM can, example: EVE had a new scam a week ago when someone used IPOs to scam people for 25 bil ISK (GHSC took 30 bil or so, & destroyed more), as usual people petitioned it. Here comes the shock for the EVE community, the GMs caved in and restored 'order' in the anarchy of space, and the people went crazy - and the devs had talks & the anarchy that is EVE was restored once again, the scammer got his cash back and the rules was clarifed that scams is indeed valid. So what GHSC did bring in the end was advertisment, & self regulation; while people complained it would be the death of EVE the growth curve from last year to now is telling something else (I would not claim GHSC is the reason, but the friends who have started playing since have all soaked up the story & loved what it brings to the game; even if they like to play nice) Oh and people don't give away rights to corphangars anyone anymore ^^
I'm flying level 4 missions with friends and doing my part after 1 month of unfocused playing (I've mostly trained learning skills to get other skills faster later on) - with 1-2 days per week of playing I've reached a level where my frig can deal the damage it needs to do good, but mostly be able to help control the battle. after just days you can do good in pvp with a focused learning of skills. even is not a game where you need to sit around and grind for 3 years just to be competative.
The BiS that was shutdown recently was hardly the BiS that made Planscape: Torment, nor the people that made Fallout in the first place - All the talent and bigwigs already left BiS to form companies like obsidian and Troika.
Troika have since had other publisher problems, first with sierra and weird demands on Arcanum, and then the one year long, or rather if you will short, development time on ToEE - a game they wanted to patch, but Atari at first did not want to pay for the patch, thus the Co8 patch for the game. When finally Atari buldged and agreed on paying for the patch, they kept it for testing for weeks, and then left it at that even if the game would really need a 2nd patch.
Besides that Troika fled Interplay back in the day, it would be kind of sad to see them fallback, even more so with the unstable ground Interplay is standing on, after all half the cash they earned recently "bringing them back from financial disaster" they owe in rent see
As you both have the same HP, or rather you have two HPs merged into 1, making you hard to butcher, but alas still if one die both die.
the question you might want to ask yourself is this, will they sell enough to cover for the cost of production, and even more so when other games pour lots of cash into good/bad PR?
I'm sure companies and users all love sleeper hits; even if I do doubt that when it comes to some of the game developers needing cash before they can get that new contract for their next big thing (so many only have 1-2 projects going), while having a 30 woman/man team to feed. Alas I can't think of any game hitting it really big without good PR; PR being a sequel, banners, freecopies to the press etc.
All those cheats for games before have been seen as something good for the community, or atleast acceptable, but this? No, the fact that they didn't see that ruining the experience for gamers not using the cheats, and alas also ruining the experience for the cheater - would backfire on them is the weird part. The only good part in this for the makers of the cheats is that many singleplayer gamers do not play online, and those of course have no serious need to stop buying gamecheats from namedcompanies, unless they want to show their disslike on the behalf of their fellow online gamers.
as I do not see that going down my pocket, two screens and all.
but again pretty neat, but it feels like an other VR-google for the GameBoy.
That said about Sierra, it's correct about people fleeing sierra - I would guess it goes down to support, and sierra seems to be loosing touch in the last years; while both Infogrames and Activision have a pretty good 3d party support, of course there are still conflicts (for example in the PR department).
As for controllers you can have any design as long as you have the same buttons to trigger - the needed ones anyway. So plug in that arcade PS1 controller you loved into the GC (adapter needed) and it works.Or just plug in a keyboard - and it works as well - of course if you want to use more then the buttons normally on the controller for the console you are playing, the game devs better have added keyboard support - and some do.
Alas all this said alot of what you said is true - and no shame there - lots of games do have designs that avoids player control, and the low ram, etc can be a problem for some games on the consoles (now this depends on what you play for games). For some reason some people like those games though, as they don't need to ponder alot before digging into the gameplay etc - and personally I LOVE savespots as I LOVE the tension it brings - as I'll damn save if I can save, and that is a weakness for me as it cuts the throat of any tension the game might otherwise bring. But I would prefer this to be a option - memory card space problems or not. I hate movies you can't skip, or other scripted action where you do not have charge over the game etc.
THERE are also problems with PC games, mind that.
old stuff made new and fresh indeed.
besides that I would hold up Ikaruga.
the problem is of course that they lack capital, and besides that are tangled up in various courtbattles delaying their X-mas games (FoBoS and Dark alliance 2) to january, not to mention jefferson that was canned due to IP problems with wizard of the coast. IPLY needs cash badly, and must stop it's own bleeding at the same time - and they simply decided that PC gamers can screw themselves, and jumped for console only.
Forget quality games from IPLY in the short future they have left, they need to milk everything they still got just to keep running and that will probably only last an other year.
too bad about FO3 though, I was somewhat hoping for that game to come Q4 next year.
at the core though the games are often made for everyone, but they just missed such facts that yes people do not play the game before they buy them, and if the game looks to be for kids (with kids in the commercials, with toylike consoles and a purple kid like logo), and yes people do not want to show off a purple cube in their livingroom besides their metalic/black set of audio/video eq.
sidenote----
Personally I view the X-box as a so and so console, few orginial games that is not coming out for the PC and besides it looks like crap costs too much. The PS2 got good games in every category, and is essential of the three consoles for the general gamer, it got everything you need really. Now the GCn - in my eyes got the top of the crops in games, but barely, but so few that you better like the what Nintendo makes in games to really enjoy the console. For me the later 2 are essential, besides the Dreamcast and the GBA - all due to the games, but if I did not own a PC, I'd probably buy a X-box I would just need to mod it I guess
but see - there is also a trick to this, make a game one can play forever, and why would one want to buy a new one? like a selfgenerating book wont sell more then once per customer a game with endless possibilities will be the end of new games.
Now all this is more or less worthless knowlage - as depending on how you play your games and what games you play replayability will be diffrent from other people. for example I, knowing something about myself I draw upon this knowlage for this example, enjoy short and hard games, say the old school of shmups*, when played more then once - I would never play NWN more then once, or say FFX whatever - they tell a story and told once I often grow bored - you might enjoy playing NWN in diffrent ways, with diffrent mods - but D&D for me holds for some session and no more - while IKARUGA or TYRIAN holds forever, unless I beat the world and I wont (as I'm fairly bad at shmups).
you claim PC games lets people replay the games, and for me that doesn't work - I know there are mods for say JAGGED ALLIANCE 2, but I've tried them and they are not fun enough (sorry JA2 modders), and the NWN mods I tried that did tell a story all sucked (and I'm sure the rest of the world loved them - but that doesn't help me). Games like Counter Strike and online gaming is not for everyone (myself included) and those mods only give so much.
the end line for me is that mods are fun, I'm even helping some people with graphics etc - and it is a pro for the PC and a con for the console - but if you think that it will win the battle for the PCs benifit think again.
PS: I own a PC for gaming, a GC, a GBA SP, a PS2 and I'm gettign the later modded for imports from JAP and US. Playing F-Zero, Ikaruga, Psyvaria, Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution, Soul Calibur 2, Viewtiful joe, Dark Cloud 2, Final Fantasy TA, Super mario kart dubbel dash!!, Zelda: A link to the past, Castlevania: Circle of the moon, Castlevania: Harmony of dissonance, Guilty Gear X and for the PC Jagged Alliance 2 and Silent Storm, and I might pick up Civ 2 or Civ 3 again.
that is all for now, getting 2 more games next week - the list might show you that A. most games I play doesn't need modding (the action titles besides Viewtiful joe and Castlevania) are all either party or hi-score fun - all lasting for a good old time - and the other you can make what you want off, and B takes so long time to play through once that once you are through you are tired of the mechanics playing the game that you want something fresh and new, not just an other mod. --- * shoot em up - but as in 2d scrolling
ouch I've seen trolls before, but this must be one of the ugliest yet.
that said I asume you are taking in german, french, and other european localizations, besides possible korean. for more kid friendly games in europe you better change the language for each country. sure you could only do games for the us and uk market, or hope that people can accept english even in places like germany, or france. to contrast this Level-5 did an excellent english and jap version of their game dark cloud 2/dark chronicle.
Console game on the otherhand are for me aimed at the opposite, even the SP games are games I can play with friends around, and it gets even better when we play a MP game and the party really starts. On the otherhand I don't play console games when I'm alone (besides a few gems) - and I would never play them online.
This is not only because of the games, or the machine directly, but how I play them - in my comfy alone corner for the PC or in the big sofa for the consoles. So I have no intention to sit in my corner when friends are over, but I'll be there when they ain't, and the opposite for the consoles.
so to sum it up, the culture around the systems benifits the PC for the online games, while the consoles suffer in this department - now I'm more or less never alone, wich makes the PC games suffer even more, but thats beyond online gaming.
lo' here comes gamespot, and I suddenly remember the awfull boxart, the worthless bosses and weapons in the 4+ games and I despair; my mind is at turmoil - what is this, how can I hold this series to the skies, long for 1-8 collection coming 2004, how?
This surreal feeling comes over me, that perhaps the kids where right, perhaps I'm wrong, and all those oldies I still care for in my heart, are not really good, but boring and worthless; I whimper.