Given that if we had these programs in place before 9/11, the 9/11 dead wouldn't be dead right now
Are you implying that the press leaked secret information that precipitated 9/11? I have never heard anyone assert that before. Can you enlighten me as to your source? Exactly what information, if it had not leaked, would have spared the lives of the victims?
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Apple Pie? half-baked? How are you are able to keep your metaphors straight, while other slashdotters can only mix them in a seemingly random fashion? Well done sir!
The problem is not that there are no criminals using the phone, there are.
The problem might be that some other drunk asshole member of the US congress might overstep his bounds (which we see examples of on the news weekly) and use this information with no sense of proportion to forward an adgenda in the guise of an investigation.
I love that game! You know, the one where you start an arguement with personal attacks by calling him a "childless wonder" and when, in turn, he takes your bait and calls you a "breeder", you jump on him with over-dramatic, mean-spritied sarcasm because you are "right". Perhaps you should consider applying to work for Fox news channel in the US. They love this tactic. If that means you have less time to post here on/., I am so-o-o sure you will be missed.
Indeed... how are the kids of PHDs and lawyers (those who can afford these 75k cars) supposed to turn donuts in the yards of other suburban homes with these types of systems?
I remember my Dad being confused when stereo hit, because to him and others of his generation, music was a mono format.
We don't need to "artificially" master music to come from multiple channels.
Do you mean mastering, as in the final equalization and master level check before printing the audio to a master for mass production or do you actually mean mixing, as in the placing of intruments within the listening field. I am not a mastering engineer, but I do mixing myself and I think that mixing is what you mean. My recording software (Cakewalk Sonar) has native multichannel mixing and effects capability that allow me to place sounds where I feel they belong in my mixes.
And your use of the word "artificially" seems to imply that stereo records are made non-artificially or naturally. They are indeed made naturally some times. When a live performance is captured by two microphones, that to me is not artificial. However, if you understand how most modern records are made, then you understand that there is almost nothing about it that is not artificial. Why would a three piece band be recorded onto a 24 track machine? I believe it is in order to make an artistic statement that is more than the capture of a simple live performance.
There is no need for the vocals to come front center, the guitar to be played front right, drums rear left, bass rear right, and backup vocals off center to the left.
I agree, there is no 'need'. However music is an art and art doesn't (or at least shouldn't) worry about 'need'. It is an expression of the artist's vision. If the artist sees the value of a surround mix, then to me it is a valid form of expression.
The only point I could see of multi-channel music is to record the reverb that actually radiates from behind us.
Some of us are not limited by your views that the only music reproduction of value must adhere to the formula of musicians playing live on a stage in front of you. I appreciate your viewpoint and have friends that think like you do. However, I have other friends that, like me, appreciate what a nicely tuned surround system can do with a well done surround mix.
You may be right that surround mixes will never be exactly mainstream. However, there is a market out there. Please keep in mind though that those of us who love surround mixes also listen to stereo and mono recordings, because in the end it is the art of music that matters, not the technology behind it.
Disclaimer - I know that this is not exactly on the nose for most of this discussion... however, I note two very basic pieces of misinformation spoken by RMS.
FTA:
In any case, iTunes distributes only music. As far as I know, the only way you can get a non-digitally-restricted version of a movie is through a P2P network.
A further problem with iTunes is that it distributes MP3 format. We need to move away from the use of that format, because it is patented. The free software that used to exist for MP3 encoding has been driven underground by threats of lawsuits.
To the best of my knowledge, iTunes does not distribute only music. And the music is does distribute is not in MP3 format.
In my mind, his higher order points - that p2p is the only way to get non-DRM films and that iTunes uses a patented, proprietary music encoding - are certainly undercut by his lack of fundamental facts regarding the examples he uses making his point.
Agree. In my business, we frequently have to rely on the 80-20 rule - solve 80% of the problem that you can with the least effort and then worry about the other 20%. This seems like what they are trying to do.
I also think the MPAA are becomming smarter. This quote FTA shows that they are learning from the mistakes of and bad publicity of the RIAA:
Glickman said his staff had been holding talks with Cohen even before that ruling to see "how we can work collaboratively and not be at each other's throats."
Interesting that while proposing activities other than watching the telly, this post's title is actually a quote from the Black Adder, a BBC produced television program. While watching TV can certainly be a waste of time, it can also provide useful information, high quality entertainment for those that seek it out and, as proved by the title of the post, the ability to understand the cultural references of others.
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Someone with mod points please give this post some love. Funniest post all week.
Hey, I resent that! And I suppose that folks who eat Eggos are perfect eh? Cheers... or um, uh... good day, Tom (Liquorman)
IANAL, but I believe it was Finders v. Losers.
Man I suck... Here is the link: http://youtube.com/watch?v=HF__Qlhtnws&search=wate r%20power
Don't let my inability to get it correct the first try dissuade you from tying the link this time. It is kinda amazing....
Why wait until then for energy produced by amazing sources. Check out this intense welder that uses water for fuel!
Are you implying that the press leaked secret information that precipitated 9/11? I have never heard anyone assert that before. Can you enlighten me as to your source? Exactly what information, if it had not leaked, would have spared the lives of the victims?
Apple Pie? half-baked? How are you are able to keep your metaphors straight, while other slashdotters can only mix them in a seemingly random fashion? Well done sir!
The problem is not that there are no criminals using the phone, there are. The problem might be that some other drunk asshole member of the US congress might overstep his bounds (which we see examples of on the news weekly) and use this information with no sense of proportion to forward an adgenda in the guise of an investigation.
I don't think this is too big of a stretch.
I agree with everything you wrote. TiVo is obviously aware of this as well and has made agreements with cable companies.
I love that game! You know, the one where you start an arguement with personal attacks by calling him a "childless wonder" and when, in turn, he takes your bait and calls you a "breeder", you jump on him with over-dramatic, mean-spritied sarcasm because you are "right". Perhaps you should consider applying to work for Fox news channel in the US. They love this tactic. If that means you have less time to post here on /., I am so-o-o sure you will be missed.
I wish there was a way to mod you as pathetic. Cheers.
Indeed... how are the kids of PHDs and lawyers (those who can afford these 75k cars) supposed to turn donuts in the yards of other suburban homes with these types of systems?
NOT!!!
I remember my Dad being confused when stereo hit, because to him and others of his generation, music was a mono format.
We don't need to "artificially" master music to come from multiple channels.
Do you mean mastering, as in the final equalization and master level check before printing the audio to a master for mass production or do you actually mean mixing, as in the placing of intruments within the listening field. I am not a mastering engineer, but I do mixing myself and I think that mixing is what you mean. My recording software (Cakewalk Sonar) has native multichannel mixing and effects capability that allow me to place sounds where I feel they belong in my mixes.
And your use of the word "artificially" seems to imply that stereo records are made non-artificially or naturally. They are indeed made naturally some times. When a live performance is captured by two microphones, that to me is not artificial. However, if you understand how most modern records are made, then you understand that there is almost nothing about it that is not artificial. Why would a three piece band be recorded onto a 24 track machine? I believe it is in order to make an artistic statement that is more than the capture of a simple live performance.
I agree, there is no 'need'. However music is an art and art doesn't (or at least shouldn't) worry about 'need'. It is an expression of the artist's vision. If the artist sees the value of a surround mix, then to me it is a valid form of expression.
The only point I could see of multi-channel music is to record the reverb that actually radiates from behind us.
Some of us are not limited by your views that the only music reproduction of value must adhere to the formula of musicians playing live on a stage in front of you. I appreciate your viewpoint and have friends that think like you do. However, I have other friends that, like me, appreciate what a nicely tuned surround system can do with a well done surround mix.
You may be right that surround mixes will never be exactly mainstream. However, there is a market out there. Please keep in mind though that those of us who love surround mixes also listen to stereo and mono recordings, because in the end it is the art of music that matters, not the technology behind it.
Cheers,
Tom
That "odd 0reason" you mention is the vote of the religious right, which was the key to Bush's victory in the last election.
Well, perhaps WoW could replace video golf...
FTA: In any case, iTunes distributes only music. As far as I know, the only way you can get a non-digitally-restricted version of a movie is through a P2P network.
A further problem with iTunes is that it distributes MP3 format. We need to move away from the use of that format, because it is patented. The free software that used to exist for MP3 encoding has been driven underground by threats of lawsuits.
To the best of my knowledge, iTunes does not distribute only music. And the music is does distribute is not in MP3 format.
In my mind, his higher order points - that p2p is the only way to get non-DRM films and that iTunes uses a patented, proprietary music encoding - are certainly undercut by his lack of fundamental facts regarding the examples he uses making his point.
I think that only Trolls should stfu. So please abide.
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details harmony/US/EN,CRID=2084,CONTENTID=8747
Don't fall for the previous poster's faux link to some spammy site!
Or if it was made from Eggo rather than Lego... mmmm, delicious data...
I also think the MPAA are becomming smarter. This quote FTA shows that they are learning from the mistakes of and bad publicity of the RIAA:
Glickman said his staff had been holding talks with Cohen even before that ruling to see "how we can work collaboratively and not be at each other's throats."
Interesting that while proposing activities other than watching the telly, this post's title is actually a quote from the Black Adder, a BBC produced television program. While watching TV can certainly be a waste of time, it can also provide useful information, high quality entertainment for those that seek it out and, as proved by the title of the post, the ability to understand the cultural references of others.
I thought that was a gerbil. Thus the pithy descriptive - gerbil jamming.